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Sunday, November 24, 2024

OpEd: It should come as no surprise that the news of Donald Trump's election again was greeted with glee in Moscow.

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... According to Russian journalist Mikhail Zygar, who had a guest op-ed published about it in The New York Times on Tuesday, "... it's not because Donald Trump is seen as a pro-Russian politician or even one of their own -- those illusions faded long ago," he says. "Nor is it the prospect of an advantageous peace deal in Ukraine, ruthlessly brokered by Mr. Trump ... the excitement comes from something else.

It's that to many in the Kremlin, a Trump presidency might bring about the collapse of the American state."

The idea that the United States is entering the final stage of its history has been kicking around Russia for some time, Zygar says.

"For years, it was confined to fringe voices. But since around 2020, figures from the Kremlin have been making the argument, too. Leading the charge was Nikolai Patrushev, a former director of the Federal Security Service and one of Mr. Putin's key advisers. Widely regarded as Russia's leading hard-liner, he was among the first to claim that America was on an inexorable path to implosion." ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-24 02:36 PM | Reply

This has been the Plan for the 40 years that Trump has been a Russian banking client, and political plant.

DJT being incompetent enough to collapse the US economy, even if he fails to do it through careful planning.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-24 02:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So his plan is working?

#3 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-24 02:53 PM | Reply

Yeah, werks great! Vlad even saves on using nukes. He has plenty for the rest of the world.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2024-11-24 03:03 PM | Reply

Zionists got America to support and enable an ongoing genocide, Putin didn't.

#5 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-11-24 04:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

cool story

when does the ventriloquist followed by the dancing elephant in a little skirt act come on ?

#6 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-24 05:02 PM | Reply

What did Epstein's noxious wingman do with the missing Russia binder?

#7 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-11-24 05:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

@#6 ... when does the ventriloquist followed by the dancing elephant in a little skirt act come on ? ...

So, as seems to be the usual, your alias has nothing to contribute.


Thanks for that confirmation.

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-24 06:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#4 ... Yeah, werks great! Vlad even saves on using nukes. He has plenty for the rest of the world. ...

My view at this point is that Pres Putin is looking to Pres-elect Trump to take a wrecking ball to the US Federal government.

Pres-elect Trump's aim seems to be to cripple the US Government, replace hard-working people with his unqualified adulators.

To the point that Pres Putin can do more of what he wants to do, and the US will be too involved with internal Federal government problems to have any say in Pres Putin's aspirations.



#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-24 07:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Yep.

The only people who can't see it are blinded by their hate for liberals and progressives.

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-11-24 07:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#8 | Posted by LampLighter a

send in the clowns.

--"don't bother...they're here"

................with all the BS about putin and such that goes on...

----"Trump has been a Russian banking client, and political plant."----

taking any of you seriously is the last thing I"ll concern myself with.

#11 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-24 07:21 PM | Reply

Here I am!

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-11-24 07:36 PM | Reply

"Please! Stop pointing out how Trump is Putin's *itch!"
-SHRIMPdick

#13 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-11-24 07:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

well here's a first...

New American journal is not included in "media bias / fact check".....a source whose appreciation and use I share with more leftist than others...

but after looking around inside it....I found all the stupid "S" I needed to see...

"How To Face the End of the World as the Republicans Win the House Too "

--Glynn Wilson

hysterical moron.

#14 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-24 07:39 PM | Reply

"Please! Stop pointing out how Trump is Putin's *itch!"
-SHRIMPdick

#13 | Posted by ClownShack

I knew it...you were hitting publish just as I wrote this.

"stupid "S""

#15 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-24 07:41 PM | Reply

@#11 ... taking any of you seriously is the last thing I"ll concern myself with. ...

Yet your alias still seems to show up here on this most august site and comment. ...


                              ;)



#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-24 07:45 PM | Reply

@#14 ... well here's a first. New American journal is not included in "media bias / fact check"..... ...

I cited the OpEd, and described it as an OpEd (the first four letters of the summary at the top of this thread).

...OpEd: It should come as no surprise

And, if you read the New America Journal OpEd, you will see that it refers extensively to an OpEd in the NYTimes.

So, maybe the issue your alias has is that it seems to be unable to distinguish the difference between an openly stated OpEd and what you try to seek in a news article.

Or maybe there is a reading comprehension issue?

I dunno ....


#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-24 07:55 PM | Reply

@#10 ... The only people who can't see it are blinded by their hate for liberals and progressives. ...

That aside.

One thing I wonder about this thread is why the shrimptacodan alias seems to be so intent upon deflecting it off-topic.


#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-11-24 08:07 PM | Reply

One thing I wonder about this thread is why the shrimptacodan alias seems to be so intent upon deflecting it off-topic.

Cultist doing his best to protect the cult.

#19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-11-24 09:16 PM | Reply

"Zionists got America to support and enable an ongoing genocide, Putin didn't."
True enough buy what Putin has done and is stil doing in Ukraine is also a genocide Donald Trump has been an open supportwe of Outin's murder of thousands of Ukrainianmen, women and children. Donald Trump is a despicable person with ukrainian blood on his hands. I have brothers who I will probably never speak to again over that. I cannot just look away as our newly electwd President ignores thousands of murders just to satisfy one evil man's ego!

#20 | Posted by danni at 2024-11-25 01:06 AM | Reply

Heeeeeze so fekkin fickle... ya never know what his stupid is gonna give birth to.

#21 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-11-25 07:17 AM | Reply

Zionists got America to support and enable an ongoing genocide, Putin didn't.

#5 | Posted by NerfHerder

I dare say the Arabs did that and in this particular case the Palestinians themselves. Israel is the one country we can count on in the Middle East. No US President will fail to support Israel after an attack like that in particular.

That said, Biden works more behind the scenes than in the camera because it is more effective and there has been pressure all along for Israel to not do what they are doing. Sometimes it burbles into the press. But for sure the US isn't doing anything to directly stop the destruction of Hamas and Hezbollah as they are Iran's tools. Let's not forget Trump has been telling Nuttyahoo "Do what you need to do" in the back ground all along.

I dare say it is not a genocide though. Hamas' casualty numbers are GREATLY inflated for one thing. There may be no Gaza available for the Palestinians when it is over though.

Note: I am not saying it is right or condoning what is going on. It is what it is.

#22 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-11-25 11:57 AM | Reply

Yep.

The only people who can't see it are blinded by their hate for liberals and progressives.

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-11-24 07:19 PM | Reply | Flag:
(Choose)
| Newsworth

Yes, the majority of the country says your policies suck and want nothing to do with them. But go ahead, keep peeing sitting down if it makes you feel better.

#23 | Posted by fishpaw at 2024-11-25 02:43 PM | Reply

So you continue to show us all that you don't know what the word "majority" means. Great job!

#24 | Posted by YAV at 2024-11-25 02:45 PM | Reply

the majority of the country says your policies suck and want nothing to do with them. But go ahead, keep peeing sitting down if it makes you feel better.
#23 | POSTED BY FISHGASH

Hey stupid.

The majority of the country didn't vote for Trump.

He narrowly beat Harris in the popular vote.

Hillary beat Trump by bigger numbers and I never had faith an Indian/Jamaican Woman would get the votes needed from a majority European nation.

You're a fkkking moron.

#25 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-11-25 03:14 PM | Reply

#25 The GOP won the WH (with an electoral and a popular vote) the house and the senate. Boo hoo to you idiot. You lost everything because Harris supporters like you turned off the majority. Congrats. Stop crying, your mascara's running.

#26 | Posted by fishpaw at 2024-11-25 03:43 PM | Reply

Nothing is worse than a sore winner.

#27 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-11-25 03:45 PM | Reply

"Hillary beat Trump" #25 | Posted by ClownShack

Wow, she won the election? Too bad she and dumbasses like you didn't know the rules.

#28 | Posted by fishpaw at 2024-11-25 03:45 PM | Reply

The GOP won the WH (with an electoral and a popular vote) the house and the senate.

You believe that's the first time it's ever happened?

You really that stupid?

Still don't equal a majority of anything.

You do understand what the term "majority" means, right?

#29 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-11-25 03:45 PM | Reply

Nothing is worse than a sore winner.

#27 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-11-25 03:45 PM | Reply | Flag:

I know, I lived through it for the last 4 years.

#30 | Posted by fishpaw at 2024-11-25 03:46 PM | Reply

"Hillary beat Trump" #25 | Posted by ClownShack

Wow, she won the election? Too bad she and dumbasses like you didn't know the rules.
#28 | POSTED BY FISHQUNT

If only you had just read the next three words I wrote, you wouldn't look like such a fkkking moron.

But being a fkkking moron is how Trump Convinced you to vote for him.

"I LOVE THE POORLY EDUCATED!"
-Trump

"WE LOVE YOU TOO!"
-FishQunt.

#31 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-11-25 03:48 PM | Reply

So instead of being better now its your turn.

#32 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-11-25 03:48 PM | Reply

#29 Ok, The GOP got more votes for their policy than the Dems got for their policy. Does that make you feel better?

#33 | Posted by fishpaw at 2024-11-25 03:48 PM | Reply

The GOP got more votes for their policy than the Dems got for their policy. Does that make you feel better?

You didn't vote for policy.

You voted for hate.

Prove me wrong, which of Trump's policies did you vote for?

#34 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-11-25 03:50 PM | Reply

What you won't see Fishpawn is another insurrection. Because democrats are better people.

#35 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-11-25 03:50 PM | Reply

"But being a fkkking moron is how Trump Convinced you to vote for him."

I would have voted for Harris but I never found out what her policy was. She sure was good with money though, blowing through a billion in 3 months and still going into debt #20 million.

#36 | Posted by fishpaw at 2024-11-25 03:51 PM | Reply

Prove me wrong, which of Trump's policies did you vote for?

#34 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-11-25 03:50 PM | Reply | Flag:

Foreign policy is one. The Biden administration was a nightmare and still is. And if you defend it over Trump's you have no knowledge of how it works.

#37 | Posted by fishpaw at 2024-11-25 03:54 PM | Reply

Got to go Clown. Enjoy your evening

#38 | Posted by fishpaw at 2024-11-25 03:55 PM | Reply

I would have voted for Harris...

LOL.

#39 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-11-25 03:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The vast majority of most Russians are dullards." Who told me this? A Russian," a people easily led down a path of self destruction." I would not even consider what they think as they are told what to think by one short bald little mass murderer and his mass disinformation and propaganda machine. Read the book about Chernobyl and see the giant disconnect to reality in their corrupt society. That may have been during the Soviet Union but it still remains as clear picture into how their society functions to this day.

#40 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2024-11-25 06:13 PM | Reply

And if you defend it over Trump's you have no knowledge of how it works.

#37 | Posted by fishpoo at 2024-11-25 03:54 PM | Reply | Flag:PPPPFFFTTTT

Neither do you... unless you're a psychic

I love when cl0wns blather on about what a president is supposed to do about another nation's policies and how we should handle their internal affairs as if such things were in our control. There seems to be this thinking the US President is in charge of what they do. If they fek up the US president is to blame. A nation entity has a right to chart its own course. They have a right to say no to us and defend themselves against us. What are we to do? Go to war with them? Fine, they have a right to go to war with us. For as long as it takes.

After all the bluster about being the most mighty military in the world, we haven't won a war in decades. The last two were international cl0wnschit shows. China is returning that cup of opium we gave it a century ago... with interest... and we took it. The international community has finally caught on.

China has enough fit men of fighting age to repopulate our entire country with themselves. Foreign "investors" own our power grid, energy production, housing industry, medical industry and farms... sold to the highest bidder as a capitalist is supposed to do.

Please fishpoo tell us how this all came together and why it's the dems who made the whole thing. Keep in mind we still get a chubby watching Trumpanzee bend over and take Putin up the Helsinki on live tv.

Iran and Iraq have normalized and are now allies... maybe the cl0wns can remind Iraq how grateful they are we got rid of Saddam so they could do that. It's the same Iran of the Iran/Contra drug trafficking debacle. The Reagan years were all booger sugar on borrowed money.

Iran, China, Russia, and North Korea have started an exclusive club. Now that your team is in charge... do you think Trumpanzee should see if they'll let him join... orrrrr ... is he going to be the boss of it?

Billionaires own an average of 4 homes in lands outside their home nation. Do you honestly think you can count on their patriotism if things go bad?

tell us how it works


#41 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-11-26 04:28 AM | Reply

just as Pooty planned...
thanks to Biden, though,
Russia is already on its
knees and begging for mercy.

It is going to be a VERY
long 4 years.

#42 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-11-26 11:18 AM | Reply

#29 Ok, The GOP got more votes for their policy than the Dems got for their policy. Does that make you feel better?

#33 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

So you voted for mass deportations lower taxes for the wealthy and higher taxes (tariffs) for the rest of us and a free rein for Putin and Nutty Yahoo to slaughter more humans.

Sorry. No ... the fact that so many of us are idiots does not make ME feel any better.

#43 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-11-26 12:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

well look at all the putin fans..

RUSSIAN ASSETS EVEN......lovin them some PUTIN.

here...let me help you Putin loving 2 faced hypocrites out..

Dasvidaniya....suckers.

www.youtube.com

#44 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-11-26 12:58 PM | Reply

What did Epstein's noxious wingman do with the missing Russia binder?

#7 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT

My bet it has already made its way to the Kremlin.

#45 | Posted by a_monson at 2024-11-26 04:19 PM | Reply

While I'm speaking of betting, I bet FishyP*ssy speaks fluent Russian, wink wink nudge nudge.

#46 | Posted by a_monson at 2024-11-26 04:22 PM | Reply

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