He never should have been charged in the first place.

Neely had been arrested 42 times. One of which was punching a 67 year old woman in the face thus fracturing her orbital bone.

All of the people trying to make a martyr out of him are missing the point of self defense. It's about stopping harm from happening. The guy was yelling that someone was going to die and he wasn't afraid to go to jail for it.

" Try being a bit more specific.
#30 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2024-12-10 02:11 PM | REPLY | FLAG:"

I think he's referring to Ashli Babbitt.

" Kill an insurance company exec. Likely to get the full weight of the government come down on you

Kill the victim of American health care get off scot free

#26 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2024-12-10 01:55 PM | FLAG: "I

I get the sense that Twoothy feels the murder of this CEO was a righteous act.

" What was Ms Babbitt doing at the time she was shot and killed?"

She was participating in a riot inside the capitol. The shot was a deliberate attempt to kill her.

" What was Mr Neely doing at the time he was choked and killed?"

He was threatening passengers and acting deranged. Even going so far as saying someone was going to die and he wasn't afraid to go to jail for it. He was then restrained by Penny who didn't actually kill him. He did not die of asphyxiation.

BTW - Neely had been arrested 42 times prior to this with his most recent arrest was punching a 67 year old woman in the face thus breaking her orbital bone.

Penny was charged and tried and even n left wing New York he was found not guilty.

" That's what cops do. Shoot to kill. He just missed.

#53 | POSTED BY REDIAL AT 2024-12-10 10:28 PM | FLAG: "

Yeah. He hit her neck. Cops are supposed to shoot at center mass.

#58. He wasn't executed.

" Why was that shot fired?"

The cop thought she was a threat.

#62. Words have meaning.

execution
/eks'kyooSH(')n/
noun
1.
the carrying out or putting into effect of a plan, order, or course of action.
"he was fascinated by the entire operation and its execution"
Similar:
implementation
carrying out
accomplishment
performance
effecting
bringing off
bringing about
achievement
carrying off
carrying through
completion
enactment
enforcement
discharge
prosecution
engineering
attainment
realization
fulfillment
perpetration
2.
the carrying out of a sentence of death on a condemned person.
"the execution of juveniles is prohibited by international law"

Neely was not executed.

" If not, what Judge sentenced him to death?"

He wasn't sentenced to death. Which is why his death was not an execution.

" Nope. Just plain old homicide.

#64 | POSTED BY REDIAL AT 2024-12-11 12:01 AM | FLAG: "

Penny didn't kill him.

" No, it was the chokehold that killed him.

#68 | POSTED BY REDIAL AT 2024-12-11 12:25 AM | REPLY"

He didn't die of asphyxiation.

" So, he died without an official Judicial order for him to be killed.

And, that is OK in your current alias' view ... why?

#69 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2024-12-11 12:32 AM | REPLY"

He bears responsibility for his own actions. He was threatening others to a point where they feared for their lives. You bring up Ashli Babbitt. She was shot and killed due to her own actions, a perceived threat, and she didn't pose nearly the physical threat the Neely posed.

The chokehold was a restraint until police arrived. When he was subdued the chokehold was loosened. He had drugs in his system and was likely schizophrenic. He was still alive when police arrived. Penny fully cooperated with police. People who were on the train with him testified that he was a protector - a good Samaritan.

Neely belonged in a mental institution or in prison. His rap sheet is a mile long.

A prosecutor known for reducing charges and soft on bail threw the book at Penny. With the help of the judge he took a strange legal move trying to at least get a 4 year prison sentence for Penny and the jury still acquitted him.

I don't understand what you are driving at. Should Penny be imprisoned even after his acquittal?

By itself the chokehold didn't kill him. And again, he was acquitted not in the rural south but in a very blue urban north city.

People have a right to self defense.

" I'll take the ME's word over yours.

#73 | POSTED BY REDIAL AT 2024-12-11 01:02 AM | FLAG:

I'll take the jury's word over yours.

" Yes. They knew Neely was mere moments away from dropping dead anyway when he was choked.

#75 | POSTED BY REDIAL AT 2024-12-11 02:12 AM | FLAG: "

So you think the jury got it wrong. So, what legal punishment do you think should have been warranted for Penny?

A chokehold doesn't cause asphyxia. It cuts off blood flow to the brain causing the victim to pass out. Once Neely passed out the pressure was reduced based upon video footage.

Redial,

See #76.

See the NY jury's acquittal, based upon all of thee evidence, and make the argument that this was a perversion of justice.

" So, a NYC jury acquittal of Mr Penny is OK, but a NYC jury conviction of Pres-elect Trump on 34 criminal counts is "political?"

Apples and pumpkins. But I don't expect you to grasp th3 differences.

Further, you are now trying to make it personal. That is quite the tell.

I'm off to bed now.

" Translation: You have no rebuttal and you know it too so you're running away. Typical Jeff.

#84 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2024-12-11 03:21 AM | REPLY |"

3:07 AM I announce I'm going to bed and you accuse me of running away. How fricking late do you expect me to stay up?

" So, a NYC jury acquittal of Mr Penny is OK, but a NYC jury conviction of Pres-elect Trump on 34 criminal counts is "political?"

I had been curious how long it would take your current alias to reach this point.

To be honest, it took longer than I had thought.

#80 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2024-12-11 03:04 AM | FLAG: "

I didn't reach that point. I don't fault the jury in the Stormy Daniels case. The prosecution (same prosecutor as this case) created a novel case out of whole cloth and the judge had it out for Trump. A little bit of the same, although no where near to the same extent occurred in this case. In the Trump case the judge (Merchan) acted so egregiously he should be disbarred. The two cases aren't remotely similar.

" Novel? Except for the other people convicted under the same law.

I'm not sure what you understand what the term Novel means."

I know what it means. A number of legal experts have used that term to describe that case.

Corky,

You most likely loved Turley when he was ripping apart the Bush administration. But like most lefties the fact that he's remained consistent and isn't a lefty attack dog is something you cannot abide