OpEd: Educate Or Not

Sunday, December 29, 2024

Joyce Vance: It's no wonder that Project 2025 calls for putting an end to the Department of Education. Trump's electoral success depended on so-called low-information voters ...

Posted by LampLighter at 11:33 AM | 31 COMMENTS | permalink | Comment on This Entry |

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So the Americans who didn't mind Trump saying he "loves the uneducated" are upset that Vivek's calling them uneducated ... Ramaswamy started a fierce debate after arguing American parents put more importance on "the jock over the valedictorian". www.huffpost.com/entry/vivek- ...

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... The Washington Post had this story today about the hopes of low-income voters who went for Trump in 2024, like a single mom who said she sometimes has to choose between buying toilet paper and milk and told reporters, "He is more attuned to the needs of everyone instead of just the rich ... think he knows it's the poor people that got him elected, so I think Trump is going to do more to help us." So far, that's not looking good.

This very predictable reporting about voters suffering from buyers' remorse is emerging even before Trump takes office.

These people hope he won't do exactly what he said he would during the campaign and has been focused on during his transition with programs like the Department of Government Efficiency, Elon Musk's DOGE"cut government spending that they depend on.

Whether it's low-income people, mixed-status immigrant families, people who rely on Social Security, or parents with immune-compromised kids who rely on immunized classrooms, people voted against their own self-interest and are now facing that reality.

There are no do-overs in presidential elections. Successful disinformation campaigns or campaigns where image trumps consequences have lasting effects. ...

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-27 07:27 PM | Reply

"the electorate who couldn't or didn't distinguish between the tough talk and tough guy image"

Posted by LampLighter

In other words, not just stupid people, but people who must be bullied every single day of their lives by anyone who barks at them.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-28 08:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Whether it's low-income people, mixed-status immigrant families, people who rely on Social Security, or parents with immune-compromised kids who rely on immunized classrooms, people voted against their own self-interest and are now facing that reality.

1 | Posted by LampLighter

They already had four years of experience with Donald, so I question their ability to comprehend reality.

Apparently, some people don't learn after touching the hot stove. They have to have that stove thrown on top of them.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-28 08:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

This very predictable reporting about voters suffering from buyers' remorse

Posted by LampLighter

If these people want to live pathetic, silly lives and vote accordingly then there's nothing to be done.

I just wish that the outcomes of their pathetic, silly lives didn't threaten those of us who do better.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-28 09:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

That's right. Keep calling 50% of the country stupid. Keep thinking they don't have a right to have a country or life like the right you have.

You will keep losing.

#5 | Posted by boaz at 2024-12-28 07:55 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

Keep calling 50% of the country stupid.

I think it's more like 33%.

#6 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-28 07:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Keep calling 50% of the country stupid.

President Leon says you subtards are unemployable.

#7 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-12-28 08:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

That's right. Keep calling 50% of the country stupid. Keep thinking they don't have a right to have a country or life like the right you have.

You will keep losing.

#5 | Posted by boaz a

Libs like me are getting tired of carrying you magat scum.

If it were up to me, I'd say ---- you to your -------- states. Let you die from preventable diseases, live in squalor, die years earlier than those who live in non--------- states, let you pray to your spaghetti monsters, have ------- cause immeasurable pain separating families, let his tariffs make you even poorer, etc.

Fortunately for you it ain't up to me.

Unfortunately for you reality seldom comes covered in lube

Enjoy your stupidity. I will be amused, like thinking about magat scum parents of children with cancer losing access to meds and therapies. I suppose they will be comforted over the loss of their children by the thought that a trans person somewhere is treated less than human.

---- you magat scum.

#8 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-12-28 08:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Keep calling 50% of the country stupid.

President Leon says you subtards are unemployable.

#7 | POSTED BY REINHEITSGEBOT A

First Lady ------- agrees like the sub beta he is

www.cnn.com

#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-12-28 08:13 PM | Reply

That's right. Keep calling 50% of the country stupid. Keep thinking they don't have a right to have a country or life like the right you have.

You will keep losing.

#5 | Posted by boaz at 2024-12-28 07:55 PM | Reply

Only 22% of the population of the US Population voted for Trump. You all are stupid. Full stop

#10 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-12-28 08:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

And easily replaced. Full stop.
~ Co-President Leon

#11 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-12-29 05:30 AM | Reply

Keep calling 50% of the country stupid.

Posted by boaz

That's what Donald, Leon, and Vivek were doing only yesterday.

But maybe they were only calling you stupid.

#12 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-29 09:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

BOAZ----

It should be obvious already, even before Donald takes office, that you and you people got swindled by a clique of elites who consider you stupid hicks.

But if it isn't obvious, then you are a stupid hick.

#13 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-29 09:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Ol' Boaz ain't never gonna get it.

It ain't just libruls callin' you "stupid", bonehead.

LOL!

#14 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-12-29 11:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Musk: Some Trump supporters are 'contemptible ... "Uniquely Stupid"

Boaz: Thank you Sir! I Love You Sir! May I have another?

#15 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-29 11:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Republicans love billionaires and hate education.

Calling them stupid is a given.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-29 12:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

From the sub-summary...

... So the Americans who didn't mind Trump saying he "loves the uneducated" are upset that Vivek's calling them uneducated ...

#17 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-12-29 12:52 PM | Reply

That's right. Keep calling 50% of the country stupid. Keep thinking they don't have a right to have a country or life like the right you have.

You will keep losing.

#5 | Posted by boaz

"Stop calling me stupid! Now excuse me while I go vote for the world's most obvious con man."

#18 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-12-29 01:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Only 22% of the population of the US Population voted for Trump. You all are stupid. Full stop

#10 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-12-28 08:42 PM | Reply | Flag:

Here's a freebie; You have to be over 18 to vote.

#19 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-12-29 07:57 PM | Reply

I feel sorry for the poor and in need of government assistance in America. Include those millions of them who voted for Trump. Americans should not take pleasure in the suffering of other Americans, even the incredibly stupid right wing hicks among us who will be among the hardest hit by Trump's proposed policies.

#20 | Posted by Moder8 at 2024-12-29 11:06 PM | Reply

... people voted against their own self-interest and are now facing that reality

But, but, Trump wasn't supposed to cut the things that I need, he was supposed to cut the things that those other people, those black and brown people needed.

Can't fix stupid.

#21 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2024-12-30 04:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That's right. Keep calling 50% of the country stupid. Keep thinking they don't have a right to have a country or life like the right you have.

You will keep losing.

#5 | Posted by boaz

You aren't 50% of the country.

You're a loud fringe who are, in fact, rather stupid. Gullible might be a better description, but at this point does it matter?

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2024-12-31 10:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"According to recent studies, approximately 54% of American adults aged 16-74 have literacy skills below a 6th-grade level"

Trump speaks at a 4th grade level.

#23 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-12-31 10:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Oh, FFS. Keep attacking the voters and keep losing.

#24 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-12-31 10:50 AM | Reply

We can call you anything we like. Or ignore you completely.

It doesn't matter.

Wait four years. You will be calling yourselves stupid.

Like Elmo and Vivek do now.

Trumpy and Elmo want your votes your support and your money.

But you are too stupid and mediocre to work for them.

I love it when they say the quiet part out loud.

#25 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-31 11:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Oh, FFS. Keep attacking the voters and keep losing.

#24 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-12-31 10:50 AM | Reply

Go post about Dr. Who offending you, child.

The American public is objectively stupid. I can say this with total honesty because IM NOT ASKING THEM TO VOTE FOR ME.

#26 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-12-31 11:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Oh, FFS. Keep attacking the voters and keep losing.

#24 | Posted by sentinel

You remember the old adage about a pack of mongrels and a thrown rock?

#27 | Posted by jpw at 2024-12-31 12:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Oh, FFS. Keep attacking the voters and keep losing.

#24 | Posted by sentinel

It is evident that most MAGA never developed a knowledge base beyond social skills relevant to their own subculture.

MAGA stupidity has always been revealed by MAGA disasters.

Say hello to bird flu.

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2024-12-31 12:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You guys are even dumber than than the the right wing trolls in this site who actually voted for Trump. YGWYFD.

#29 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-12-31 11:40 PM | Reply

@#29 ... You guys are even dumber than than the the right wing trolls in this site ...

So, to substantiate your comment, you post an unsubstantiated comment, quite similar to the "right wing trolls" you assert participate on this site?

OK ...

Two comments ....

1) good to see you admit there are "right wing trolls" on this site.

2) sad to see that you may be projecting with that comment.

#30 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-01 12:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Jimmy Buffet - On A Slow Boat To China (1981)
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Interesting story ....

Back in the day (late 1970's), I had the occasion to stay at a hotel in Clearwater Beach, FL.

To be honest, I do not remember whether it was the Clearwater Beach Hilton or the Clearwater Beach Holiday Inn. Based upon my company's expense policies at the time, I'd say the latter.

That location aside, I liked sitting out on the beach on a lawn chair after dinner.

One evening, entertainment appeared.

None less than Mr Buffet.

There was no prior mention. He just appeared.

And provided an amazing show for those there.

#31 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-01 12:25 AM | Reply