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Tuesday, January 07, 2025

Meta will dismantle its extensive fact-checking program, chief executive Mark Zuckerberg said Tuesday, ending a practice that has sought to limit the spread of falsehoods on its platform but has been assailed as censorship in conservative circles.

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-- Amee Vanderpool (@girlsreallyrule.bsky.social) January 7, 2025 at 8:47 AM

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Our country is being sold out so a small handful of people can get fabulously wealthy beyond any need or reason.

#1 | Posted by jpw at 2025-01-07 11:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

AAAAAH HAHAHAHHAHAHA

wasn't a problem for you prix when the information hacks were going your way ala laptop amd covid bs lies...

but now "you people" are desparate to create the same BS here they have in Europe.....where there is no 1st amendment

because "you people" were happy with the way it was even though it's EXACTLY what you're bitching about here....just your way.

2 faced punk.

#2 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-01-07 03:11 PM | Reply

#2

Internet tough guys...

miltownkid.wordpress.com

What they lack in intelligence they make up for in stupid.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-07 03:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#2 | Posted by shrimptacodan

Here's the problem, shrimpd*&(. You're entire worldview depends on false or misleading information. Completely. There's absolutely nothing rolling around in that empty head of yours that has a close semblance to reality.

When greedy pieces of s*&^ like F*&(erberg drag us all down to your level to make money off stupid people like you, it hurts us all.

#4 | Posted by jpw at 2025-01-07 05:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Meta will dismantle its extensive fact-checking program, chief executive Mark Zuckerberg said Tuesday,

Closed door deals with Trump are paying off!

Expect MSG to post a lot more memes with misinformation and propaganda.

Make Merica Great Again!!!

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-07 05:15 PM | Reply

Meta will dismantle its extensive fact-checking program ...

Starts out by blaming "mistakes," ends up by saying he's moving his content moderation jobs out of California to Texas and admitting the Biden administration demanded censorship for four years. Says it feels like a new era.

WTF. Texas sucks am I right?

#6 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-07 05:20 PM | Reply

Apparently you only have to tell a billionaire owner of Corporations a few times that they now OWN the US President before they decide to go ahead and use him like the whore he is.

#7 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-07 05:21 PM | Reply

Meta Says Fact-Checkers Were the Problem. Fact-Checkers Rule That False.
www.nytimes.com

------- hilarious.

#8 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-07 05:23 PM | Reply


Apparently you only have to tell a billionaire owner of Corporations a few times that they now OWN the US President before they decide to go ahead and use him like the whore he is.
#7 | POSTED BY CORKY

So he's not Hitler?

#9 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-07 05:23 PM | Reply

No, 1Nut, he just read Adolf Schickelgruber's playbook.

Look it up.

It was necessary, however, for him to actually read at least that one book to get the 4th Reich just right in America.

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2025-01-07 05:27 PM | Reply

drudge.com

#11 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2025-01-07 08:49 PM | Reply

How much you wanna bet Trump threatened Zuck to capitulate or be faced with the consequences!

Nonstop pointless litigation driving meta outta business.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-07 08:49 PM | Reply

And I have deleted my FB links. Up yours, Zucker.

#13 | Posted by morris at 2025-01-07 09:51 PM | Reply

This is a good thing IMO. Fact checkers are often really bad at what they do.

#14 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-07 10:22 PM | Reply

Fact checkers are often really bad at what they do.

#14 | Posted by BellRinger

How does that happen? Does it happen equally for all parties, or just some of them?

Some posters here don't, for example, understand that facts aren't gauged by what feels right to them.

#15 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-01-07 10:40 PM | Reply

Of course Trumpers are against fact checkers. They want the ability to hoodwink others. Who here is surprised by this??

#16 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-07 10:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'm just happy you can state the truth that a Dude wearing a dress ISN'T a "woman" again like a sane person. Take note Rcade.

#17 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-07 11:33 PM | Reply

a Dude wearing a dress ISN'T a "woman"

Agreed.

But.

Trans women aren't dudes.

#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-07 11:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" Trans women aren't dudes."

Biologically they are.

#19 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-07 11:38 PM | Reply

You are obsessed with trans people, jeff. Did you ---- one by accident or something? Get a hobby.

#20 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-07 11:40 PM | Reply

Am I wrong?

#21 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-07 11:43 PM | Reply

Is it your business?

You can have your opinion but this is bordering on a JK Rowling level obsession for you.

#22 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-07 11:46 PM | Reply

My opinion? I stated a fact.

#23 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-07 11:50 PM | Reply

JK Rowling is a true feminist. Of course she's going to be vocal about the issue.

#24 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-07 11:54 PM | Reply

I'm not going to apologize for speaking the truth.

#25 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-07 11:55 PM | Reply

The reason why the right wingers are so hung up on Trans issues is because to reinstate the Patriarchy rigid gender norms must be followed. Especially with regards to the Christian Right.

God

Man

Wife/woman

Children

Any deviation must be stamped out. By force if necessary. That's the sad reality of the situation that we Trans people are facing today.

#26 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-08 12:03 AM | Reply

I'm not going to apologize for speaking the truth.

#25 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-07 11:55 PM | Reply

Who asked for an apology?

#27 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-08 12:14 AM | Reply

" Any deviation must be stamped out. By force if necessary"

That's how girls and women feel they are being targeted.

#28 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 12:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The reason why the right wingers are so hung up on Trans issues is because to reinstate the Patriarchy rigid gender norms must be followed.

It's even dumber than that.

It's because they're stupid reactionaries triggered by rightwing media and completely distracted while Republicans transfer wealth from the middle class to the upper class.

#29 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-08 12:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Also if that was the comment that gets my permaban, it was worth it to say 2+2=4.

#30 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-08 12:16 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

That's how girls and women feel they are being targeted.

Rape babies are gifts from god!

#31 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-08 12:17 AM | Reply

Also if that was the comment that gets my permaban
#30 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

You will be remembered as a martyr!

Feel free to start a cry baby thread about how you're quitting.

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-08 12:19 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Feel free to start a cry baby thread about how you're quitting.

Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-08 12:19 AM | Reply

Goatman had about three of those. They never stuck. Nobody quits this site until they are dead.

#33 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-08 12:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You will be remembered as a martyr!

He would make a new account within 24 hours.

#34 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-08 12:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No thanks Clownshack, this isn't an airport ... I have no need to announce my departure. But, stating the fact that that a "Transwoman" isn't an actual woman is the truth and no matter how hard the Left tries to "normalize" something, this election proves that the normies were tired of bs like that.

And FB has chosen to act accordingly to restore norms and tell the left leaning cry babies who scream for censorship to shove it.

#35 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-08 12:24 AM | Reply

Biden cost Harris the election by dropping out too late, and by doing NOTHING about the price gouging the Kroger CEO admitted to.

If anyone actually voted for Trump because of the 1-2% of trans people in this country they're a ------- moron addicted to far right news cycles.

#36 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-08 12:27 AM | Reply

And FB has chosen to act accordingly

Zuckerberg is licking trumps bum because he's terrified of him. Decency or normality has nothing to do with it.

#37 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-08 12:27 AM | Reply

Lmao, Alex if you thought Harris was a viable candidate you're dumber than I thought you were. Obama forced Harris on Biden and as the ultimate -- to the Democrat Party for deposing him he endorsed her immediately to sink the Democrats chance of attempting any real sort of a challenge. But by all means keep living in LaLaLand.

#38 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-08 12:34 AM | Reply

By all means though have the Democrats run her in 2028 and watch the same asskicking take place. It will only reinforce what I just said.

#39 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-08 12:36 AM | Reply

And FB has chosen to act accordingly to restore norms and tell the left leaning cry babies who scream for censorship to shove it.

Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-08 12:24 AM | Reply

I hate to break it to you but there is more government requested censorship approved under Musk at X than there was before he bought Twitter. Just sayin

#40 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-08 12:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

www.yahoo.com

Elon Musk criticizes censorship, but his X grants more government requests than Twitter did

#41 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-08 12:40 AM | Reply

Lmao, Alex if you thought Harris was a viable candidate you're dumber than I thought you were. Obama forced Harris on Biden and as the ultimate -- to the Democrat Party for deposing him he endorsed her immediately to sink the Democrats chance of attempting any real sort of a challenge. But by all means keep living in LaLaLand.

Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-08 12:34 AM | Reply

Ummmmmmm Both Pelosi and Obama wanted a primary. It was Biden who foisted Kamala to be the Presidential Nominee. Get your facts straight please.

#42 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-08 12:44 AM | Reply

30. Was something substantive said?

33. Strange, that, huh?

#43 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-01-08 12:45 AM | Reply

Laura, I am implying the election of 2020 when I said Obama forced Harris onto Biden. A knowledge of historical context helps before replying without properly reading. Have a lovely night.

#44 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-08 12:47 AM | Reply

Laura, I am implying the election of 2020 when I said Obama forced Harris onto Biden. A knowledge of historical context helps before replying without properly reading. Have a lovely night.

Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-08 12:47 AM | Reply

Ummmmmmm no. I believe that Biden chose Kamala in order to get Clyburns support. Obama had nothing to do with 2020. In fact Obama I don't think believed Biden would run again as President. That's partially why he chose him to be his VP running mate.

#45 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-08 12:54 AM | Reply

I have no need to announce my departure.

You literally announced your plan to take a sabbatical from this place that lasted like a week.

#46 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-08 01:00 AM | Reply

stating the fact that that a "Transwoman" isn't an actual woman is the truth

Perhaps if you keep calling it a "fact" and "the truth" you'll fool yourself into believing it.

If it were so factual or truthful, you wouldn't need to try so hard to convince others.

#47 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-08 01:04 AM | Reply

FB has chosen to act accordingly to restore norms

You must be on the wrong thread.

Nothing in the article has anything to do with what you're trolling about.

#48 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-08 01:05 AM | Reply

You literally announced your plan to take a sabbatical from this place that lasted like a week.

Welcome to the Hotel California.

#49 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-08 01:16 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

" Perhaps if you keep calling it a "fact" and "the truth" you'll fool yourself into believing it."

It's called science, more specifically, biology.

#50 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 01:37 AM | Reply

" Ummmmmmm Both Pelosi and Obama wanted a primary. It was Biden who foisted Kamala to be the Presidential Nominee. Get your facts straight please.

#42 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2025-01-08 12:44 AM | FLAG: "

That's not what I read. Biden didn't want to drop out. He was effectively forced out. On his behalf, one of his aides tepidly endorsed Harris via a Tweet, if memory serves.

#51 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 01:41 AM | Reply

" Biden cost Harris the election by dropping out too late,"

His condition was being hidden from the public (a majority saw through it and were accused of being ageist conspiracy theorists) by his team, the Democratic Party and the MSM. For almost the entirety of his administration Harris had a lower favorability rating than he did. So, they bluffed. Challenged Trump to 2 debates (the first one being historically early) and set terms that they though were so 1-sided that Trump would want to negotiate (which is customary for presidential debates) and they'd have their talking point that he was too chicken to debate and would then say due to his cowardice they weren't going to debate at all. And this the charade would have continued with the MSM carrying oceans of water for Biden and the Dems. But Trump quickly accepted the terms and Biden was finally publicly exposed in a way that no one could gaslight or deny. And the rest is history.

"and by doing NOTHING about the price gouging the Kroger CEO admitted to."

In what economic world do you live where a sub-3% profit margin is price gouging?

#52 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 01:56 AM | Reply

It's called science, more specifically, biology.
#50 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

Look at Mr Wizard here.

Still not doesn't understand what gender identity is.

It has zero to do with biology, Copernicus.

#53 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-08 02:01 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

I understand what "gender identity" is. It's a social construct that throughout human history aligned with biology up until about 10 years ago.

I'm talking biology. I've been very clear about that.

#54 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 02:26 AM | Reply

I understand what "gender identity" is. It's a social construct that throughout human history aligned with biology up until about 10 years ago.

I'm talking biology. I've been very clear about that.

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 02:26 AM | Reply

You're such a fraudster. I have posted here repeatedly over the years that we've always existed. Hell Native Americans had 5 genders in their history. Why you keep lying about it is beyond me.

#55 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-08 02:30 AM | Reply

In what economic world do you live where a sub-3% profit margin is price gouging?

#52 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2025-01-08 01:56 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

in a world where one of the culprits admitted it.

#56 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-08 02:40 AM | Reply

I understand what "gender identity" is. It's a social construct ...

You're an idiot.

Everything is a social construct.

Gender, race, nationality, money, countries, time, beauty, marriage, religion ...

Social construct means reality and knowledge are shaped by societal agreement.

You literally posted something you totally don't understand as if it's bad.

You're an idiot.

#57 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-08 02:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

www.businessinsider.com

A Kroger exec reportedly testified that the supermarket giant raised prices of milk and eggs beyond inflation costs

#58 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-08 02:53 AM | Reply

" in a world where one of the culprits admitted it.

#56 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2025-01-08 02:40 AM | REPLY"

A sub 3 % profit margin is gouging? Further, Kroger has lots of competitors. People shop with their wallets. Economics has always been a weak spot for the left.

#59 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 03:02 AM | Reply

" You're such a fraudster. I have posted here repeatedly over the years that we've always existed. Hell Native Americans had 5 genders in their history. Why you keep lying about it is beyond me.

#55 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2025-01-08 02:30 AM | FLAG: "

I am strictly talking biology. If archeologists discovered your skeleton 1000 years from now you would correctly be classified as "male" in spite of how you identified in life.

#60 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 03:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Don't like Kroger's prices?

Don't shop there.

I have found a grocery stOre that is on my way home from work that has far better pricing than the local store. While I enjoy shopping at the local store, money is tight these days so I shop where the prices are better.

#61 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-08 03:08 AM | Reply

I am strictly talking biology.

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

You're here to discuss transgenders.

You can never learn anything when you choose to limit the scope of your understanding.

#62 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-08 06:04 AM | Reply

Human cultures long predate any study or conception of "biology."

Humans have had nonbinary members of their cultures throughout time.

We've just devolved to a point of trashing them.

"The men don't know what the little girls understand."

#63 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-01-08 06:44 AM | Reply

Girls will be boys

#64 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-01-08 07:21 AM | Reply

and boys will be girls

#65 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-01-08 07:22 AM | Reply

It's a mixed up,

#66 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-01-08 07:22 AM | Reply

muddled up,

#67 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-01-08 07:23 AM | Reply

shook up world, except for

#68 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-01-08 07:23 AM | Reply

69!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#69 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-01-08 07:23 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Don't like Kroger's prices?

Don't shop there.

I have found a grocery stOre that is on my way home from work that has far better pricing than the local store. While I enjoy shopping at the local store, money is tight these days so I shop where the prices are better.

#61 | Posted by BellRinger

Biden's administration blocked a merger for kroger to swallow up even more stores and have even less competition.

Trump's administration will do the opposite.

And you'll blame the high prices on democrats.

#70 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-01-08 01:19 PM | Reply

This means nothing.

There was no 'fact checking' to start with...

#71 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-01-08 01:56 PM | Reply

And you'll blame the high prices on democrats.
#70 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

I blame spending, by both parties.

Ever since CR's spending has just exploded!
en.m.wikipedia.org

#72 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-08 02:09 PM | Reply


If archeologists discovered your skeleton 1000 years from now you would correctly be classified as "male" in spite of how you identified in life.
#60 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Lotta truth to this, whats the counter?

#73 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-08 02:10 PM | Reply

speaking the truth.

#25 | Posted by BellRinger

When was the last time you did that about anything important?

#74 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-01-08 02:30 PM | Reply

If archeologists discovered your skeleton 1000 years from now you would correctly be classified as "male" in spite of how you identified in life.
#60 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Lotta truth to this, whats the counter?
#73 | Posted by oneironaut

Counter: Who cares?

You want to identify as a different gender, why should it bother me?

#75 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-01-08 02:56 PM | Reply

And you'll blame the high prices on democrats.
#70 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

I blame spending, by both parties.

Ever since CR's spending has just exploded!
en.m.wikipedia.org

#72 | Posted by oneironaut

Spending skyrockets under Trump and you blame Dems?

And did you want to mention the Trump tax cuts?

#76 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-01-08 02:59 PM | Reply

If archeologists discovered your skeleton 1000 years from now you would correctly be classified as "male" in spite of how you identified in life.
#60 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

There's more to being human than skin and bones. Oh and there's more to gender and sex than the XX XY dichotomy. Just sayin.

#77 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-08 03:22 PM | Reply

-There's more to being human than skin and bones

easy there......someone's gonna hijack that comment for another abortion argument.........LOL

#78 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-08 03:25 PM | Reply

" I blame spending, by both parties. "

I blame the folks who reset America's fiscal sights.

And then refused to accept reasonable tax increases. Then passed a tax code adding an additional 10% to the deficit just for the new tax cuts. And now they want to do that again, and they're willing to gut Social Security and Medicare to do it.

I blame the authors and architects.

#79 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-08 04:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Billionaires are now targets.

#80 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-01-08 09:33 PM | Reply

Yeah, Mr Zuckerburg apparently kissing the ring, or, more likely, the most ample derriere of Pres-elect Trump.


#81 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-09 12:22 AM | Reply

"Yeah, Mr Zuckerburg apparently kissing the ring, or, more likely, the most ample derriere of Pres-elect Trump.

#81 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 2025-01-09 12:22 AM | FLAG: "

The "fact checkers" were coordinating with and acting at the behest of the Obama/Biden/Harris regime.

I agree with Zuckerberg's rationale for making this change. I agree with everything he said.

However, I don't trust he was being honest. Given his track record.

Going independent with fact checking with the changing of the guard?

All, in all - a great move regardless of the timing. Much needed. But part of me believes this change was made because a continuation of what they were doing would mean working with the Trump Team to censor stuff.

#82 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-09 12:43 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"The "fact checkers" were coordinating with and acting at the behest of the Obama/Biden/Harris regime."

Nonsense.

Once again you conflate an editorial board agreeing with the government as collusion with the goal of censorship.

Meanwhile, FB just gave up fact-checking because Trump, and you applaud.

You obviously hate fact-checking for the same reason Trump does.

#83 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-09 01:07 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

@#82 ... I agree with Zuckerberg's rationale for making this change. I agree with everything he said. ...

OK, let's start there.

... However, I don't trust he was being honest. Given his track record. ...

I do not disagree.

Mr Zuckerburg seems to have one purpose and one purpose only, like the many billionaires who have trekked to Mar-A-Lago to kiss Pres-elect Trump's ample derriere.

... The "fact checkers" were coordinating with and acting at the behest of the Obama/Biden/Harris regime. ...

Yeah, I've seen that assertion many times on some news sites. But one thing that I have not seen with those assertion is any manner of evidence to substantiate them.

So, what's yer current alias got?


#84 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-09 01:25 AM | Reply

Nonsense.

Once again you conflate an editorial board agreeing with the government as collusion with the goal of censorship.

Meanwhile, FB just gave up fact-checking because Trump, and you applaud.

You obviously hate fact-checking for the same reason Trump does.

Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-09 01:07 AM | Reply

Jeff's still miffed RCADE banned his former handle for spreading lies and misinformation about COVID-19. That's the crux of the issue.

#85 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-09 01:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I agree with Zuckerberg's rationale for making this change.

If Trump threatened me, I'd make changes too.

Zuck is wealthy, but he won't be able to fight the United States Government for (at minimum) the next four years.

#86 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-09 02:13 AM | Reply

That's the crux of the issue.

That and his throbbing passion for Trump

#87 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-09 02:16 AM | Reply

@#86 ... If Trump threatened me, I'd make changes too. ...

Yeah. There's that donation and meeting ...

Mark Zuckerberg's Meta donates $1m to Trump fund (December 12, 2024)
www.bbc.com

... Meta, the parent company of Facebook and Instagram, has donated $1m (786,000) to an inauguration fund for President-elect Donald Trump.

The tech giant's boss, Mark Zuckerberg, dined with Trump at his Mar-a-Lago resort in November, having sought to repair his and his firm's relationship with Trump following the election.

Trump previously was highly critical of Mr Zuckerberg and Facebook - calling the platform "anti-Trump" in 2017. ...


But, now, all seems to be cool between them ...

One question I do have, though, ... how does Mr Zuckerberg feel about being so, I'll be kind, reduced in stature?



#88 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-09 02:26 AM | Reply

@#85 ... Jeff's still miffed RCADE banned his former handle ...

Yeah, that may be correct.

But what I also saw when I ran a message board, is that a person who creates one additional alias, will likely create more additional aliases.

The ethical leap to that first false alias seemed to be the big hurdle. After that, other alias seemed to come easily.

But that is just my experience, nothing more.


#89 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-09 02:32 AM | Reply

LAMP @ #88

"One question I do have, though, ... how does Mr Zuckerberg feel about being so, I'll be kind, reduced in stature?"

Probably relieved that his -------- are still attached.

At least until after the inauguration when Trump will probably stab him in the back anyway.

#90 | Posted by Twinpac at 2025-01-09 06:41 AM | Reply

" You obviously hate fact-checking for the same reason Trump does.

#83 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2025-01-09 01:07 AM | FLAG: |"

Piss off. Who fact checks the fact checkers?

When Biden first started his vote busting gambit of cancelling student loans DeSantis during a presser said almost 60% of those with student loans have masters degrees. Politifact emailed his press secretary at the time (Pushaw) asking where he got that number. Her reply was: (Paraphrasing) your parent company (Poynter) produced a study that revealed that 56% of those with student debt hold masters degrees. And from our perspective 56% is synonymous with "almost 60%".

In her response she provided a link to the study.

What did Politifact do? Rated Desantis's claim mostly false' and shut off replies to the fact check.

That is but one of countless other examples of fact checkers being partisan hacks.

Community notes isn't perfect but it's more accurate than our current slate of so- called fact checkers.

The only reason you like fact checkers is due to their extreme ideological bias.

#91 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-09 11:28 AM | Reply

Vote busting = vote buying

#92 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-09 11:28 AM | Reply

Piss off. Who fact checks the fact checkers?

When Biden first started his vote busting gambit of cancelling student loans DeSantis during a presser said almost 60% of those with student loans have masters degrees. Politifact emailed his press secretary at the time (Pushaw) asking where he got that number. Her reply was: (Paraphrasing) your parent company (Poynter) produced a study that revealed that 56% of those with student debt hold masters degrees. And from our perspective 56% is synonymous with "almost 60%".

In her response she provided a link to the study.

What did Politifact do? Rated Desantis's claim mostly false' and shut off replies to the fact check.

That is but one of countless other examples of fact checkers being partisan hacks.

Community notes isn't perfect but it's more accurate than our current slate of so- called fact checkers.

The only reason you like fact checkers is due to their extreme ideological bias.

#91 | Posted by BellRinger

YOU ARE A GOD DAMN LIAR AGAIN

DeSantis said 60% of student debt was graduate school debt. NOT 60% of those with student loans have masters (graduate) degrees.

Fact: ONLY 40% of student debt is graduate school debt, 60% is undergraduate student debt.

It was 56% of HOUSEHOLDS with student loan debt have graduate degrees by someone IN the household, but that also doesn't mean all the debt in the household belongs to the person with a graduate degree.

www.nbcmiami.com

Any other lies you want us to fact check you into oblivion on?

#93 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-01-09 11:37 AM | Reply

My memory failed. It was graduate degrees, not masters degrees.

Here is what I was referencing.

x.com

#94 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-09 11:53 AM | Reply

I misquoted DeSantis. My bad.

#95 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-09 11:56 AM | Reply

"Piss off. Who fact checks the fact checkers?"

THAT's what Community Notes should be about. Meanwhile, your answer to the ivermectin pimp is the market will correct. Many will die, of course, but truthful intervention is censorship. right?

"What did Politifact do? Rated Desantis's claim mostly false"

Probably since 56 would literally round to 60. In fact, "Almost 60%" is closer than its alternatives, "Over half" and "over 50%". I would've preferred the ACTUAL number, but DeSantis bitching about which option was chosen is ludicrous.

#96 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-09 11:59 AM | Reply

"The only reason you like fact checkers is due to their extreme ideological bias."

What a coincidence.

The only reason you dislike fact-checkers is they all-too-often prove you wrong.

#97 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-09 12:01 PM | Reply

The left's new-found love of censorship is very troubling.

Y'all used to oppose this type of thing.

#98 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-09 12:03 PM | Reply

"I misquoted DeSantis."

You also misunderstood the claim regarding households. Are you aware of that?

#99 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-09 12:03 PM | Reply

fact checking is not censorship.

#100 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-09 12:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Danforth,

Do you disagree with the reasons Zuckerberg cited for making this change?

#101 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-09 12:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

" fact checking is not censorship.

#100 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2025-01-09 12:04 PM | FLAG: "

It's used as a rationale to justify censorship.

Keep in mind, the so- called fact checkers admonished us that Biden was sharp as a tack.

#102 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-09 12:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"The left's new-found love of censorship"

You've said there should be no limits on disinformation, misinformation, or malinformation. That, of course, includes yelling FIRE in a crowed theatre.

Your answer is a derelict government, not even fulfilling its "General Welfare" duties.

You also have a bad habit of claiming CENSORSHIP if the government reminds the platform of its own Terms of Service, and the editorial board agrees.

#103 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-09 12:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

its also is not "censorship" to moderate content to stop threats, doxxing, and racism. when you joined facebook you agreed not to post those things in the terms of service. we all did.

even truth social has the same tos because they dont want to be sued into oblivion.

#104 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-09 12:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"Do you disagree with the reasons Zuckerberg cited for making this change?"

I think he's pandering to Trump.

And folks like you, who don't like being fact-checked.

#105 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-09 12:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Fact checking medical misinformation isn't censorship either.

#106 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-09 12:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

" You also have a bad habit of claiming CENSORSHIP if the government reminds the platform of its own Terms of Service, and the editorial board agrees.

#103 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2025-01-09 12:06 PM | FLAG: "

No. That's what you tell yourself to make yourself feel superior.

What I've been harping on is the government working with tech platforms to control messaging. It's something the government is prohibited from doing on its own due to 1A. More than 1 SC ruling forbids the government from using the private sector as its surrogate to do what the Constitutuion prevents it from doing on its own.

Do you honestly want the Trumpcadministration partnering with these platforms to control messaging.

You love it when the left benefits but fail to understand that the pendulum does swing the other way. It reminds me when Dems nuked the filibuster for presidential nominees and twocyearsclatervwerecmortified when Trump was able to reap the benefits of their folly.

#107 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-09 12:17 PM | Reply

Keep in mind, the so- called fact checkers admonished us that Biden was sharp as a tack.

#102 | Posted by BellRinger

And you claim the FBI was after parents for "speaking out" at school board meetings.

You're full of fake s*&^. Nobody cares what Jonathan Turley filled nonsense you have to share with us.

#108 | Posted by jpw at 2025-01-09 12:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So. Fakebook finally shows its true colors?

How much money will this cost Yuckerberg? I hope it costs him billions like it cost Adrian.

Into the rubbish with Twitter Fakebook and any media platform that knowingly spreads hateful propaganda and disinformation.

My life was just fine before they existed. And it will be just fine without them.

#109 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-09 12:53 PM | Reply

Keep in mind, the so- called fact checkers admonished us that Biden was sharp as a tack.

#102 | Posted by BellRinger

I only have to keep in mind that you lie and distort the facts to suit your agenda.

So I am gonna need a link for that to determine just who or what you think a "fact checker" is.

Biden's democratic allies defending Biden's mental state is as perfectly natural as maga maroons defending trumps mental state.

They are not the "so-called fact checkers" you are looking for.

#110 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-09 01:18 PM | Reply

" And you claim the FBI was after parents for "speaking out" at school board meetings"

It's an accurate claim, nimrod.

#111 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-09 02:50 PM | Reply

" So I am gonna need a link for that to determine just who or what you think a "fact checker" is."

Glen Kessler is a self proclaimed fact checker and he's at best mediocre at what he does.

#112 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-09 02:53 PM | Reply

Patricide Jeff believes the demented orange pedo is honest.

#113 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-01-09 02:57 PM | Reply

It's an accurate claim, nimrod.

#111 | Posted by BellRinger

So it is stupidity and not simple dishonesty, then. Gotcha.

#114 | Posted by jpw at 2025-01-09 03:01 PM | Reply

" So it is stupidity and not simple dishonesty, then. Gotcha.

#114 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2025-01-09 03:01 PM | FLAG: "

It happened.

I remember you getting seriously pissed off at any suggestion that Biden has dementia.

Have you ever adjusted your view?

I know full well you'd never acknowledge you were wrong.

#115 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-09 03:12 PM | Reply

Te 114

No it's dishonesty. Once again the facts and hence the truth is twisted to fit maga narratives.

The FBI did investigate parents. Because they were making terrorist threats.

Not because they "spoke out". It's because of what they said. They threatened school board members and their families.

You know. Like maga is famous for.

You have the right to free speech but free speech also has consequences. Like everything you do in life.

For every action there is an equal an opposite reaction.

Science!

#116 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-09 03:13 PM | Reply

And I am not trying to change the subject.

You chose to make it personal so I'm rubbing your nose in your own shht

#117 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-09 03:14 PM | Reply

" The FBI did investigate parents. Because they were making terrorist threats."

They didn't have jurisdiction. And the original directive was far more broad than that.

#118 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-09 03:15 PM | Reply

"It's an accurate claim"

Nonsense. Your "speaking out" means threatening the board with injury or death if they don't reverse their decisions.

You know, the textbook definition of terrorism.

You're whining because literal terrorists were called terrorists. GFY.

#119 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-09 03:16 PM | Reply

They are need up backing off because they got caught engaging in an intimidation campaign.

You lefties are not required to be boot lickers. Sometimes things are simply wrong. And they will always be wrong.

#120 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-09 03:18 PM | Reply

I remember you getting seriously pissed off at any suggestion that Biden has dementia.

No it was just annoying. Reminding us of how old both candidates are is actually just depressing. But denying that Trumpy has the same issues really pisses off maggats don't it?

What? Can't remember that? You must have dementia too!

Here's an idea. Let's have them BOTH tested!

Yeah that will never happen tho will it?

"Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV."

Whale!

#121 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-09 03:20 PM | Reply

Danforth,

Yet they backed off. Why is that? These are terrorists, right?

Why would the FBI back off on terrorists?

Maybe because these people weren't terrorists?

Political and cultural thought to the right of Stalin is t terrorism.

Speaking out at school board meetings isn't terrorism.

#122 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-09 03:21 PM | Reply

They didn't have jurisdiction. And the original directive was far more broad than that.

#118 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Over Americans making terrorist threats? Yeah they actually do.

#123 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-09 03:22 PM | Reply

Speaking out at school board meetings isn't terrorism.

#122 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2025-01-09 03:21 PM | REPLY

why do you continue this zombie lie? there were death threats involved.

#124 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-09 03:22 PM | Reply

www.reuters.com

#125 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-09 03:23 PM | Reply

"Yet they backed off. Why is that? These are terrorists, right?"

So now you are complaining that they did their jobs and determined that they were not a threat?

How would they know they never really meant to follow thru with their terror threats if they didn't investigate them? Would you just wait for the them to go thru with a threat then investigate them? That's just brilliant son.

If you don't wanna be investigated by the FBI I suggest you don't make threats that could be considered terrorism.

Just like if you don't want to get wiretapped don't be calling Russian intelligence assets that are being monitored by them.

#126 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-09 03:28 PM | Reply

Speaking out at school board meetings isn't terrorism.

#122 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Making threats of violence against school administrators, board members, teachers and staff is a crime and is not just "speaking out".

Criminal Threats is the crime of threatening to commit a violent act against another person with the intent to terrorize them. It can also include threatening to kill someone or damage their property.

#127 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-09 03:32 PM | Reply

" What I've been harping on is the government working with tech platforms to control messaging."

Riiiiiight. Messaging like "Don't promote the bleach-drinking challenge".

OTOH, you want to give everybody the right to legally yell "FIRE" in a crowded theatre.

#128 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-09 03:40 PM | Reply

I misquoted DeSantis. My bad.

#95 | Posted by BellRinger

No. You lied.

You accused the fact checkers of bias because you failed to do even the most basic research.

This is why you hate Fact Checkers. You don't have the Facts and lie about them being wrong.

We need Fact Checkers because people like you are too lazy and incompetent to get basic facts right even with Google at your finger tips.

See #127 for further proof.

#129 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-01-09 03:42 PM | Reply

" why do you continue this zombie lie?"

It sure explains why he's so terrified of fact checkers.

#130 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-09 03:43 PM | Reply

jeff, you got destroyed in this thread because of your bias. An emotional bias that likely stems from being banned for posting covid lies.

learn from it.

#131 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-09 03:45 PM | Reply

The only reason you like fact checkers is due to their extreme ideological bias.

#91 | Posted by BellRinger

Reality has an extreme ideological bias, when your ideology is to reject reality.

#132 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-01-09 06:38 PM | Reply

Facts have a liberal bias.

#133 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-09 07:05 PM | Reply

" You accused the fact checkers of bias because you failed to do even the most basic research."

I misremembered graduate degree with masters degree. When I saw my error I owned up. What else do you want? Blood?

#134 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-10 10:07 AM | Reply

" OTOH, you want to give everybody the right to legally yell "FIRE" in a crowded theatre.

#128 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2025-01-09 03:40 PM | FLAG: "

You shovel so much straw.

#135 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-10 10:08 AM | Reply

"
#129 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2025-01-09 03:42 PM | FLAG: "

You are so fricking petty. I conflated graduate with masters. When my mistake was pointed out I acknowledged it.

For most people that would be enough. Not for you. Nope. You've got to make it into a capital offense.

Seriously, go get bent.

#136 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-10 10:15 AM | Reply

" why do you continue this zombie lie? there were death threats involved.

#124 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2025-01-09 03:22 PM | FLAG: "

Oh really? Let's investigate them ALL then? Further the FBI didn't have jurisdiction. That would be a local law enforcement issue.

" No legitimate basis': Biden admin blasted for directive telling FBI to investigate parents at school board meetings"

news3lv.com

#137 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-10 10:19 AM | Reply

"No legitimate basis"

The definition of terrorism disagrees.

#138 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-10 10:32 AM | Reply

"'No legitimate basis': Biden admin blasted for directive telling FBI to investigate parents at school board meetings""

Translation: "I found someone as stupid as I am; here's the link"

There's A REASON you keep misrepresenting what went on. There's also a reason you keep repeating the lie; no wonder fact-checkers are the bane of your existence.

#139 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-10 11:08 AM | Reply

Why did they stop investigating, Danforth?

Maybe, just maybe it was because concerned parents aren't fricking domestic terrorists?

Quit being such a boot-licker.

Again, you certainly don't want the FBI investigating parents at Trump's dirrection, do you?

#140 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-01-10 11:30 AM | Reply

Again, you certainly don't want the FBI investigating parents at Trump's dirrection, do you?

#140 | Posted by BellRinger

That's what you voted for, so it's what YOU want.

#141 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-01-10 01:11 PM | Reply

I want the FBI to investigate every moron that sends death threats to school board members, regardless of who the president is.'

You're basically admitting that Trump can't be trusted with any power whatsoever.

#142 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-01-10 01:13 PM | Reply

"Why did they stop investigating?"

Who says they did? My guess is these folks are still on a terrorist watchlist, as they should be.

Again, they didn't "speak out", as you pretend, they threatened the elected and appointed officials with bodily harm or death, if the officials didn't reverse a policy decision they'd made.

That's the TEXTBOOK DEFINITION of terrorism.

#143 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-10 03:07 PM | Reply

"Quit being such a boot-licker."

What a riot, coming from a terrorism advocate.

#144 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-01-10 03:09 PM | Reply

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