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Even as Donald Trump boosts coal over clean energy, solar power is hitting new milestones in the US and remains the leading source of new power.

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In the United States, solar energy is outpacing coal for the first time ever[image or embed]

" Mother Jones (@motherjones.com) 9:00 AM Jun 11, 2026

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When .will I be able to afford a solar powered car?

#1 | Posted by danni at 2026-06-11 10:47 AM | Reply

According the dumb fuck Secretary of Energy solar doesn't work in the winter when in fact it works better because of the reflected light off of the snow and the cooler temperatures.

#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2026-06-11 10:52 AM | Reply

Coal is probably the only black thing that the current Republican Party embraces or even likes.

#3 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2026-06-11 10:54 AM | Reply

When .will I be able to afford a solar powered car?

#1 | POSTED BY DANNI

I drive one now. You can too.

Step 1. Install solar panels on your roof.

Step 2. Buy an electric car.

Step 3. Charge your car at home.

Voila! You now have a solar powered car.

#4 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-06-11 10:55 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

It also requires natural gas back up and often doesn't provide power when demand is there.

#5 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-06-11 11:06 AM | Reply

"It also requires natural gas back up"

Or battery, or coal, or nuclear, or hydro, or geothermal...

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-11 11:07 AM | Reply

I have invested in solar panels. They work great. Winter and summer. I am on a program called net zero. I zero out my energy costs once a year. Towards the end of summer. I do make more energy in the summer. It makes up for the energy I can't make in winter. I have an app that monitors my energy production so I can see what the best months for energy production are where I live.

I love my big black beautiful solar panels. They have saved me thousands of dollars already. The only thing I need now is a battery backup. Still waiting for the price to come down on that.

But my solar panels will probably outlast me.

#7 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-06-11 11:15 AM | Reply

It also requires natural gas back up and often doesn't provide power when demand is there.

#5 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Guess you have never heard of micro grids.

Daytime energy is cheap. It creates what's called a duck curve. It happens when all the gas generators have to fire up at sundown.

So energy produced at night is more expensive. The micro grids make energy all day store it and then sell it back to power companies at the more expensive rate at night.

Genius yes?

#8 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-06-11 11:20 AM | Reply

#2 Nixon Flag: Doesn't know about earth's tilt and shorter daylight hours in winter.

#9 | Posted by visitor_ at 2026-06-11 11:23 AM | Reply

WV needs to switch.

#10 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2026-06-11 11:28 AM | Reply

The biggest downside of rooftop solar is it complicates selling your home.

If you're not planning on moving, take the free money.

And if you don't think electricity prices are going to skyrocket under Trumpflation, you're probably morally opposed to solar energy and the concept of "conservation" in the first place.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-11 11:31 AM | Reply

The biggest downside of rooftop solar is it complicates selling your home.
If you're not planning on moving, take the free money.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-11 11:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

"Free money" Like all the government entitlement programs?

There is no free money in solar panels unless some company comes and installs your system for free. And it get's worse if you want to run while the grid is down. Needs batteries.

#12 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-06-11 11:38 AM | Reply

Needs batteries.

POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Solar energy is free. The panels do cost money to retrieve that free energy. Duh.

I have a small generator for those rare occasions when the power goes out. It's currently much cheaper and easier to maintain than a battery backup.

Where I live in California my power has been stable for years now. Haven't used the generator for at least 2 years now.

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-06-11 11:45 AM | Reply

The only thing I need now is a battery backup. Still waiting for the price to come down on that.

The emerging technologies for battery backups include using EV batteries after the car is taken off the road and sodium ion batteries that are far cheaper and last longer than Lion batteries.

#2 Nixon Flag: Doesn't know about earth's tilt and shorter daylight hours in winter.

#9 | Posted by visitor_ at 2026-06-11 11:23 AM | Reply | Flag

Doesn't know about angling the solar panels for maximum efficiency.

#14 | Posted by Nixon at 2026-06-11 11:47 AM | Reply

"The biggest downside of rooftop solar is it complicates selling your home."

My solar panels have added equity to my home. It's worth more with solar panels. You are guaranteed cheep energy if you live here. It's a positive selling point. It's also why I am not moving anytime soon. I also like cheep energy!

#15 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-06-11 11:48 AM | Reply

Yes, but transferring the contract takes many hours of back and forth and waiting on hold with Tesla. Ask me how I know!

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-11 11:51 AM | Reply

The panels do cost money to retrieve that free energy. Duh.

#13 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-06-11 11:45 AM | Reply | Flag:

So how much "free energy" do you need to retrieve prior to realizing a gain from said retrieval devices?

The simple question is what's your ROI?

#17 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-06-11 12:02 PM | Reply

Re 16

Yeah. The system did come with a "lifetime guarantee " but I am hoping to not transfer any contracts if I sell. If I haven't paid them off by the time I sell my home I will just pay it off then. The solar panels will just be a part of the home. If the new owners wish a contract that up to them. That's their option. The only deal the new owners will HAVE to make then is with PG&E. Hopefully.

As I said I am not planning on selling. But you never know what the future might bring.

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-06-11 12:06 PM | Reply

The simple question is what's your ROI?
#17 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Homeowners tend to break even after like six to eight years.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-06-11 12:11 PM | Reply

The simple question is what's your ROI?

#17 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Don't have the numbers right here. The return on investment was about 10-15% depending. The payback period of roughly 6 to 10 years, depending on my energy usage, local electricity rates, and home location. I am thinking it was ten years when I bought it.

But I will tell you my energy costs right now including the monthly cost of the panels is less than I was paying before I had the panels installed. And it only gets better as time goes on. And honestly you can get even much better deals now.

But like I said that all depends on your local cost for energy. Which is always going up and never down.

#20 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-06-11 12:13 PM | Reply

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