Anyone with 'sticker shock' is the reason why the American economy is where it is today because they prioritized buying cheap imported crap over employing Americans. Further, the liberals crying about paying more for tariffs while also lamenting how 'there are no good jobs' are a symptom of the deeper problem with America today. Shipping manufacturing to Mexico and China devastated the US middle class. That is why college 'educated' liberals can't find jobs now and are also crying about their inability to repay their loans. The reality, those liberals CAN'T EVEN AFFORD THE CHINESE CRAP - they should simply be adjusting their lifestyles to something sustainable. As the economy fixes itself and more employment becomes available in the US, hopefully some of their 'education' will actually be put to productive use.

I will give you the alternative path the US COULD HAVE TAKEN from the 1980's until today. Rather than import low wage illegals or ship jobs to Mexico and China to pay pennies on the dollar in labor costs - companies invested in R&D and automation in the US. Thus, the jobs would have never left but our factories would have become higher tech needing a more educated workforce to design, build, and maintain them. As a result, it puts the company on a permanent track of lower overall production costs and more goods available to consumers at lower prices.

But, the US chose a different path to temporarily lower costs vs. investing in America. Trump is finally fixing that problem and the US will be way stronger in the future as a result.

A simple question for the board:

Do any of you honestly think offshoring production to China was a good idea?

If you answer no - then you are just whining that Trump was the one to fix the problem. If you answered yes - then never complain again about wages or your poor economic situation as you are supporting it continuing.

"#14 | Posted by ClownShack"

Well, how about you weigh in:

Do you honestly think offshoring production to China was a good idea?

As simple yes/no will suffice.

"#14 | Posted by ClownShack"

And as a reminder - Jesus loves you and we are both hoping that you can turn your life around and make better choices.

"It was COMPANIES who started moving manufacturing overseas to save a buck and enrich themselves and shareholders."

It was companies that moved and you dipshits that bought the products that they exported back into the US because the price was cheaper. And after you did not punish the first company for doing it, all companies were forced to follow the lead.

"Reagan ushered in the "Greed Is Good" and union busting. The two Bush tax cuts even provided tax benefits for moving factories lock, stock, and barrel."

No factories left under Reagan dipshit. This was a process started by NAFTA (Clinton) and fully embraced by the Democrats as you turned your backs on union workers.

"Don't pretend it was consumers yearning for cheap goods."

If a company produces a good and no one buys it - will the company keep producing it? Nope - it was you dipshits looking for deals and laughing at the midwest as its factories closed up.

"After major industry from textiles to steel to you-name-it started manufacturing overseas, wages started to fall....Until then, a man without a college degree could support a family.
#17 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY"

Yep - and here YOU are - fighting tooth and nail against the only man in the last 40 years that is actually trying to reverse the trend vs. telling you goobers to "learn to code".

Again - I ask because you are not explicit - was moving production to China a good thing? If not, why are you trying to continue it?

"Do you honestly think offshoring production to China was a Democratic idea?
#18 | Posted by Danforth"

The dipshit that signed NAFTA was Clinton. After that, the whole Democrat party got on board which is why we can still find clips of Pelosi wanting tariffs on China. That was before you sold out your unions for the big donor democrats.

Also, blaming 'Republicans' from the 1990's as if it is even remotely the same party in 2025 is laughable. Those Republicans from the 90's - guys like McCain, Romney, McConnell is exactly who MAGA kicked out of the party. The corporate GOP were kicked out of the party and they are now the ones driving the Democrats.

What proof? Here YOU are fighting against Trump trying to reverse the trend and supporting open borders - 2 policies the Democrats from the 90's would have kicked you out of their party for supporting.

"It was authored by a Republican Congress and regardless of whether Clinton signed it or vetoed it, it would have passed.
#21 | Posted by ClownShack"

It was going to be passed because half of the senate Dems supported it. The GOP could not have overcome a veto - but they didn't need to as Clinton actively campaigned on passing it. The only one against it was Perot - and his views more or less align with MAGA today.

During this time, MAGA was either voting for Perot or holding their nose and still voting Democrat. The GOP was religious nuts and corporate GOP. It is like the modern Democrat party - religious nuts (earth worship and woke worshipers - only the religion changes) and corporate Dems. Unions and working people now are all MAGA.

"The self-inflicted economic pain from Trump's tariffs was dcaused by one man and one man alone.
#30 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY"

Medicine does not always taste good - but it is necessary to cure the illness.

"Trump IS the illness.
#33 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY"

So Trump signed NAFTA?

You sound like a diabetic blaming the doctor for cutting their toes off rather than blaming themselves for being 100lbs overweight with a 75% sugar based diet.

"#36 | Posted by oneironaut"

Don't be too hard on him. Maybe they taught pretend history at his pretend law school.

"Both Presidential candidates in 1996 were on record supporting NAFTA, GATT, and WIPO.
#38 | Posted by snoofy"

There were 3 presidential candidates in 1996 and 1 surely did not sign up for any of those. The GOP supporting NAFTA is why all them have been stripped of power in the party and MAGA has taken over. The GOP was an evil party when promoting McCain and Romney and W Bush - all of whom are now seen as heroes of the Democrats.