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Tuesday, May 20, 2025

The Food and Drug Administration announced Tuesday that it will limit access to Covid-19 vaccines going forward to people 65 years of age and older and others who are at high risk ...

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The FDA will permit Covid vaccines only for adults over 65 and those with certain medical conditions in the fall, according to new regulatory standards.[image or embed]

-- The New York Times (@nytimes.com) May 20, 2025 at 12:20 PM

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The GOP is a Death Cult.

#1 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 02:16 PM | Reply

RFK JR is a murderer.

#2 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-05-20 02:17 PM | Reply

#1: The GOP is a Death Cult.

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2H1CP5W/kali-goddess-of-death-indian-hindu-illustration-tongue-hanging-2H1CP5W.jpg

#3 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-20 02:20 PM | Reply

Number of people under 65 that died of Covid?

"In the United States, as of June 14, 2023, there were 274,318 COVID-19 deaths in individuals under the age of 65."

www.google.com

Not counting all those who became very ill, lost pay, were debilitated, lost family and friends.

Trumpers must be SO proud!

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-20 02:23 PM | Reply

#2: RFK JR is a murderer.

And child abuser. A few weeks ago RFK Jr took his grandchildren into the prohibited toxic and fecal-tainted Rock Creek, exposing them to dangerous bacteria and chemicals.

#5 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-20 02:24 PM | Reply

The GOP Death Cult celebrates the death of their fellow Americans in mass shootings by wearing AR-15 pins, crack open cans of Schlitz beer when Palestinians get murdered wholesale, light up cigars when Ukrainians are mercilessly attacked by Russian drones, or cheer when a dark-skinned migrant dies in ICE detention because of inadequate medical care.

Simply put, Republicans are in a Death Cult which embodies the antithesis of decency, morality, and compassion.

#6 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-20 02:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The party of freedom is just making sure you're now free to get long covid and myocarditis.

Two of my friends from college died from COVID at 54.

The GOP is a ghoulish death cult.

#7 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-05-20 03:03 PM | Reply

All this is anti science nonsense just to try and wipe a stain of of trump's record.

He screwed up covid, therefore his cult has to attack the whole notion that covid was real, including the vaccines. And spreading doubt in the covid vaccine spreads doubt to ALL vaccines, which gets people killed.

Killing citizens to make trump look better.

#8 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-05-20 03:11 PM | Reply

You all are up to date with your 18th booster?

#9 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 03:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

So...not a doctor/patient decision?

Let freedom ring!

#10 | Posted by Angrydad at 2025-05-20 03:35 PM | Reply

is long covid why you're so stupid?

#11 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-05-20 03:35 PM | Reply

In 2024 what was % deaths by age?

#12 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 03:36 PM | Reply

"In 2024 what was % deaths by age?"

What percentage is too much for you?
Any percentage is okay with you!

Guns is the leading cause of death for children, and you love the Second Amendment.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 03:43 PM | Reply

@#12 ... In 2024 what was % deaths by age? ...

What's your current alias' point?

That those taking the vaccine in 2024 had a lower death or hospitalization rate?

#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-20 03:47 PM | Reply

Just had my last booster March 2nd. I'm a firm believer in vaccines.

#15 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-05-20 03:48 PM | Reply

Another view ...

arstechnica.com

... The move was laid out in a commentary article published today in the New England Journal of Medicine, written by Trump administration FDA Commissioner Martin Makary and the agency's new top vaccine regulator, Vinay Prasad.

The article lays out a new framework for approving seasonal COVID-19 vaccines, as well as a rationale for the change"which was made without input from independent advisory committees for the Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Normally, the FDA's VRBPAC (Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee) and the CDC's ACIP (Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices) would publicly review, evaluate, and discuss vaccine approvals and recommendations. Typically, the FDA's scope focuses on licensure decisions, made with strong influence from VRBPAC, while the CDC's ACIP is principally responsible for influencing the CDC's more nuanced recommendations on usage, such as for specific age or risk groups. These recommendations shape clinical practice and, importantly, health insurance coverage.

Makary and Prasad appear to have foregone those norms, even though VRBPAC is set to meet this Thursday to discuss COVID-19 vaccines for the upcoming season.
Restrictions

In the commentary, Markary and Prasad puzzlingly argue that the previous universal access to COVID-19 vaccines was patronizing to Americans. ...


#16 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-20 03:58 PM | Reply

In a world of finite resources we make medical decisions based cost and effectiveness. We don't give mammograms to males and women below a certain age. Same with PSA screening in old men. If you want to pay for a vaccine of marginal utility, go ahead.

#17 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 04:13 PM | Reply

Stop the Dem panic, the plannedDemic is over.

#18 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 04:15 PM | Reply

- finite resources

He means we need to cut these health costs because fElon needs a tax break... which I can guarantee you won't help Visitrumper.

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-20 04:16 PM | Reply

I mean, what's another few 100 thousand lives lost compared to tax cuts for Oligarchs?

#20 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-20 04:18 PM | Reply

"That is the most startling aspect of Trumpism - how otherwise decent Republicans with long-standing reputations for political normalcy and measured behavior have become cravenly submissive to Trump despite the daily deluge of incompetence, ignorance and buffoonery; along with the moral, ethical and policy hazards that accompany it."

Jeff Timmer

#21 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2025-05-20 04:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You really think the covid vaccine will save that many lives in the cohorts with the least risk? Do you still wear a mask in public, practice safe distance, are up to date on all your boosters?

#22 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 04:25 PM | Reply

#22

Fact is that almost 300K people under 65 died in the first 2 years of Covid.

We like to call those things facts worth considering, rather than dead bodies to appease the Oligarchs with tax cuts... you braindead cultist.

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-20 04:28 PM | Reply

That variant is gone. This is 2025. Do you still wear a mask in public, practice safe distance, are up to date on all your boosters?

#24 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 04:32 PM | Reply

If you want to pay for a vaccine of marginal utility, go ahead.
#17 | Posted by visitor_

But, apparently we can't. Because we must be in a government-defined high risk group to have that choice.

The death panels are here. And Polio Kennedy Jr. is leading Trump's GOP charge.

#25 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-20 04:39 PM | Reply

"When you receive a COVID-19 test, you won't find out which variant caused your infection. That's because COVID-19 tests only detect the presence of the virus " they don't determine the variant."

www.nebraskamed.com

Cultists are such KnowNothings.

But their obviously self-serving questions are pretty funny.

#26 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-20 04:40 PM | Reply

If you search you will find a doctor willing to give you an unnecessary vaccine shot, but you will have to pay the full cost for it. Do you know if the vaccine for the earlier, more deadly strains is still available? Do you still wear a mask in public, practice safe distance, are up to date on all your boosters?

#27 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 04:46 PM | Reply

lmao... better that poor people pay for what might be a necessary vaccine than Oligarchs not get another big tax cut?

That must be difficult for a Trump Cultist to grok.

#28 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-20 04:51 PM | Reply

If you search you will find a doctor willing to give you an unnecessary vaccine shot, but you will have to pay the full cost for it.

Imagine, for a minute, that I have a job and better things to do with my time than doctor shop for medication.

Do you still wear a mask in public, practice safe distance, are up to date on all your boosters?
#27 | Posted by visitor_

Why are my personal health decisions any of your business? Or is that right only important when people choose to skip the polio vaccine?

You called it a PlannedDemic. So clearly science and reason have no bearing on your personal decision-making.

#29 | Posted by censored at 2025-05-20 04:57 PM | Reply

Ok You're not taking any precautions against covid and aren't serious, just taking a piss. Got it.

#30 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 05:02 PM | Reply

#30

You're so cute when you get all mad and run away from the facts. Kinda like a baby hamster or something.

But it has become rather commonplace for you.

#31 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-20 05:06 PM | Reply

"You really think the covid vaccine will save that many lives in the cohorts with the least risk?"

How many lives?

Where's the cutoff point where it's worth saving lives.

I asked that before and you didn't answer.

You didn't answer because COVID could kill a million Americans and you'd still argue the vaccine is worse than the disease. That's what happened and that's what you're doing in this thread.

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 05:09 PM | Reply

"In a world of finite resources we make medical decisions based cost and effectiveness."

Vaccines are the lowest cost highest effectiveness medical intervention that's ever been invented.

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 05:14 PM | Reply

Sorry Sally, the current Covid variants just aren't that harmful unless you're in one of the high risk groups. There are limits for PSA tests and mammograms too.

"You didn't answer because COVID could kill a million Americans and you'd still argue the vaccine is worse than the disease." Absolutely untrue, just a straw-man argument. I did answer, Covid just isn't a big deal if you're not in a high risk group. You never said if you were up to date on your booster, masking, distancing etc.

#34 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 05:16 PM | Reply

Stop the Dem panic, the plannedDemic is over.
#18 | Posted by visitor_

Ok You're not taking any precautions against covid and aren't serious, just taking a piss. Got it.
#30 | Posted by visitor_

Sounds like visitor_ and visitor_ have a lot to talk about.

I hope you get things sorted out between the two of you!

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 05:17 PM | Reply

"Sorry Sally, the current Covid variants just aren't that harmful unless you're in one of the high risk groups."

^
Now tell us about future variants.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 05:18 PM | Reply

Before I can answer that, what's effectiveness of the current vaccine on those hypothetical future variants?

#37 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 05:20 PM | Reply

You mean you don't know?

Then how did you make the claim that variants just aren't that harmful?

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 05:24 PM | Reply

I looked at the CDC data.

#39 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 05:26 PM | Reply

#38

Visitor is the Amazing Kreskin of vaccines.

#40 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-20 05:27 PM | Reply

You looked at what CDC data.

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 05:29 PM | Reply

"Everyone ages 6 months and older should get the 2024"2025 COVID-19 vaccine. This includes people who have received a COVID-19 vaccine, people who have had COVID-19, and people with long COVID."

www.cdc.gov

#42 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-20 05:30 PM | Reply

You trust the CDC data that was collected under four years of George Soros secretly running the country, am I reading that right?

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 05:31 PM | Reply

Those recommendations are clearly insane and influenced by the Dem panic/planned demic. Are you up to date on your boosters, mask in public, practice social distancing or is this just performative on your part?

#44 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 05:34 PM | Reply

"People ages 12"64 years
You are up to date when you have received:

1 dose of the 2024"2025 Moderna COVID-19 vaccine OR
1 dose of the 2024"2025 Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine OR
1 dose of the 2024"2025 Novavax vaccine unless you are receiving a COVID-19 vaccine for the very first time. If you have never received any COVID-19 vaccine and get Novavax, you need 2 doses of 2024"2025 Novavax COVID-19 vaccine to be up to date."

same link

I'm just glad we have Visitor, the Qanon version of the CDC, werking hard for Oligarch tax cuts.

#45 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-20 05:34 PM | Reply

- the Dem panic/planned demic

Q Cultist. Told ya'll so!

"QAnon, Covid-19 and the conspiracy cult"

www.bbc.com

Also of import...

"QAnon is a Nazi Cult, Rebranded"

www.justsecurity.org

#46 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-20 05:39 PM | Reply

Those recommendations are clearly insane and influenced by the Dem panic/planned demic.

^
That's Trump's guidance!

WASHINGTON " The Trump administration engaged in "deliberate efforts" to undermine the U.S. response to the coronavirus pandemic for political purposes, a congressional report released Friday concludes.

The report, prepared by the House select subcommittee investigating the nation's Covid response, says the White House repeatedly overruled public health and testing guidance by the nation's top infectious disease experts and silenced officials in order to promote then-President Donald Trump's political agenda.

www.nbcnews.com

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 05:39 PM | Reply

Are you up to date on your boosters, mask in public, practice social distancing or is this just performative on your part?
#44 | Posted by visitor_

What's the current CDC guidance?

Is being up to date the current guidance, visitor_?
Is mask in public the current guidance, visitor_?
Is social distancing the current guidance, visitor_?

#48 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 05:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Little bitch just runs away.

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 05:48 PM | Reply

RFK JR is a murderer.

#2 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce a

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA RIIIIIGHT

--and so is who ever told biden what to do in afghansitan
--and each one of you who voted for biden knowing
his open border would get women and children raped
and murdered.
--and there are about 5500 murders everyday in death
cult centers with PP on the stationary.

#50 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-05-20 05:49 PM | Reply

As usual.

#51 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-20 05:51 PM | Reply

and let's not forget the POS with more blood on his
hands than anyone...the former governor of NY
who sent thousands of old people to the death chambers
called centers for elderly care.
- BUT he's a democrat and we know that no one is above

the law....BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

#52 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-05-20 05:52 PM | Reply

via GIPHY

#53 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-05-20 05:56 PM | Reply

@#17 ... We don't give mammograms to males ...

Yes, we do ...

Mammograms for men: What to expect (2020)
www.mdanderson.org

... Male breast cancer is extremely rare. About 1% of breast cancers in the United States occur in males. But certain men do run the risk of getting breast cancer. Men who are at risk, or who have symptoms of breast cancer, may need to get a mammogram.

We talked to Gary Whitman, M.D., in Breast Imaging about male breast cancer and what men can expect during a mammogram. Here's what he had to say.

How do men get mammograms? ...



#54 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-20 05:56 PM | Reply

Little bitch just runs away.

#49 | Posted by snoofy

AH HAHAHAHAHA>...no one runs from either of you psychopathic rump sniffing little boys.

they may get tired of your stupid clucking slitz....in fact that's a better than good chance.

#55 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-05-20 05:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

No JPW opinion, that's strange must be busy with prostate exams.

#56 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-05-20 05:59 PM | Reply

#54 Mammograms are given to men when they have symptoms or risk factors. Not on a routine schedule like they are for women. But you knew that was my point because being obtuse is your thing.

#57 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 06:01 PM | Reply

#54 He meant routine screening for breast cancer in males.

He works somewhere that's health care related and that's why he has certain facts correct.

Unfortunately, when it comes to everything else, he's in the "Groomed To Be A Victim Of Democrats" Trump Cult.

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 06:01 PM | Reply

#54
Corky is a man and regularly has a period on this site.

#59 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-05-20 06:02 PM | Reply

Where's the CDC data?
Still Googling?

#60 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 06:02 PM | Reply

#48 I just wanted to assess if your fear of Covid (unfounded as it may be) was real or just you taking a piss. Piss it is. You, should get that prostate looked at.

#61 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 06:04 PM | Reply

The CDC says spit don't swallow.

#62 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-05-20 06:04 PM | Reply

- He works somewhere that's health care related

QaNazi Healthcare. The pay isn't great, but the tight white jackets with straps are free!

#63 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-20 06:05 PM | Reply

"Mammograms are given to men when they have symptoms or risk factors. Not on a routine schedule like they are for women."

A routine schedule, you say.
Like we used to have for COVID...

So how many women actually die from breast cancer?
And how's it compare to COVID?

Run the numbers and tell me if we should stop routine screening all women over 40.

Like you ran the numbers and saw we should stop routine COVID vaccines for people under 65.

You can do advances biostatistics with your high school education, right?

Impress me, you dumb little ------ bitch.

#64 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 06:07 PM | Reply

"#48 I just wanted to assess if your fear of Covid (unfounded as it may be) was real"

And I wanted to assess if your knowledge of CDC guidance was real.

You didn't disappoint in having no clue.

#65 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 06:08 PM | Reply

This is the CDC data. covid.cdc.gov

Do a query by age for 2024. You will see risk is low and doesn't become significant until 50+ years old.

#66 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 06:09 PM | Reply

"You will see risk is low"

Risk of what?
Risk is low compared to what?

You don't know what you're talking about.

#67 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 06:11 PM | Reply

#64 Your logic is a little off. We screen for breast cancer to prevent deaths.

#68 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 06:13 PM | Reply

#53 | Posted by fortfisher

ah yes....back to those days of yester-year...
--shouldn't you and me be dead....I did'nt let them imject anything in me that they got a 50 year or so pass of responsibility just because some guy ...who is THE RICHEST MAN IN
ALL OF GOVERNMENT NOW...said take it or lose your job and livelihood while walmart and target were NEVER CLOSED !!!
and no fans in stadiums but PLAYERS were still rubbing butts and noses in huddles and tackles BUT MAINLY like democrat birthday
parties and governors who threatened people with jail for walking on a deserted beach while they were out having expensive dinners
with their " people FORCING people to work to serve them.

--There is so many examples of democrats fooling people like these oh so clucking smart stooges
..so many that there's no time to get through them....even
the great lie about masks and the 6 foot rule.. AHAHAHA
--what a bunch of frigging sheep "you people" were.

AND NOBODY ELECTED FAUCI !!! WTF ???? ahahahhahahahaa

#69 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-05-20 06:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

For it to not be worth it to do the vaccine:

Is saying the risk from the vaccine itself outweighs the inceased risk of getting COVID because you're not vaccinated.

Show the math which supports that reasoning.
Or feel free to say that's not what you're really arguing.
Tell us how I'm getting it wrong.

I bet you can't do any of that.
Not with your education!

#70 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 06:18 PM | Reply

We screen for breast cancer to prevent deaths.
#68 | Posted by visitor_

Why do we give COVID vaccines?

#71 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 06:19 PM | Reply

Big pharma

#72 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-05-20 06:25 PM | Reply

You know the vaccine doesn't provide 100% protection from covid don't you? Maybe you don't and then your arguments make more sense.

#73 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 06:25 PM | Reply

and go ahead and question my comments about fauci

then remember he got a pardon that just happens to extend back
to when he was funding "gain of function" that we know
now to be the truth.....a pardon signed by biden's "casper
the friendly ghosts"......most likely named barry...

#74 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-05-20 06:26 PM | Reply

Impress me, you dumb little ------ bitch.
#64 Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 06:07 PM

Don't have time to read all the posts, but whoever broke snoofy, well done.

#75 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2025-05-20 06:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

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#76 | Posted by fortfisher at 2025-05-20 06:28 PM | Reply

hy do we give COVID vaccines?

#71 | Posted by snoofy

some may not think so but I do....think this is a GREAT question...in a leftist kinky sort of way.

.one that visitor and fisher can answer.

#77 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-05-20 06:30 PM | Reply

"You will see risk is low"

You will also see the risk is a whole lot lower when you are actually vaccinated!

A total of seven studies with 21,618,297 COVID-19 patients were included in the meta-analysis. The odds ratio (OR) for mortality among unvaccinated patients compared to vaccinated patients was 2.46 (95% CI: 1.71-3.53), indicating that unvaccinated patients were 2.46 times more likely to die from COVID-19.
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

#78 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 06:30 PM | Reply

#71 Screening finds cancer early lowering the rate of death. So why don't we screen female babies at six months? Why don't we (as gaslighter belives) screen men and women? Screening works, why not screen everybody every day? You don't seem to understand the concept of cost/benefit and diminishing returns. You may have an advanced degree, but your education is still lacking.

#79 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 06:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You know the vaccine doesn't provide 100% protection from covid don't you? Maybe you don't and then your arguments make more sense.
#73 | Posted by visitor_

You know that unvaccinated patients were 2.46 times more likely to die from COVID-19 don't you? Maybe you don't and then your arguments make more sense.

#80 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 06:32 PM | Reply

so what are the totals now...of healthy young people....healthy youg jabbed people who are dead from heart failure ?
come on leftist tell me...I'll even believe
snoofy BUT certainly not corky

#81 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-05-20 06:33 PM | Reply

Screening works, why not screen everybody every day? You don't seem to understand the concept of cost/benefit and diminishing returns. You may have an advanced degree, but your education is still lacking.
#79 | Posted by visitor

Nobody is suggesting giving a COVID shot every day.
Your brain has given up.
Your emotions are doing the "thinking" for you now.
Yon people never learned to control your emotions.

#82 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 06:34 PM | Reply

#78 If you buy two lottery tickets your chances of winning are 200% higher than if you buy only one. But not that much higher someone that buys none.

#83 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 06:35 PM | Reply

"#78 If you buy two lottery tickets"

^
You're selling lottery tickets where the "prize" is death.

#84 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 06:36 PM | Reply

- doesn't become significant until 50+ years old.

So Kill the insignificant bastards and give Musk a Tax Cut!

Go, VisitQr!

#85 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-20 06:36 PM | Reply

inated patients were 2.46 times more likely to die from COVID-19 don't you? Maybe you don't and then your arguments make more sense.

#80 | Posted by snoofy

I knew 3 of those people....1 had severe diabetics to the point he already lost
his feet / 1 who had heart disease and 1 would had cancer. they got jabbed...

---and died 3-4 weeks after being jabbed....guess what the official cause of death
was...you know like your stats talk about average more likely to die of covid
is SEVERLY FLAWED BECAUSE OF FALSE REPORTING.....IE MORE LIES !!!
meaning any stat about official death from covid
is WORTHLESS...BASED ON DISHONEST REPORTING
"

#86 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-05-20 06:40 PM | Reply

If you buy two lottery tickets your chances of winning are 200% higher than if you buy only one. But not that much higher someone that buys none.
#83 | Posted by visitor

Which is totally unlike COVID vaccines.
Not having a COVID vaccine makes you 2.46 times more likely to die from COVID.

What's the point where that risk becomes negligible? 1.5 times more likely to die? 1.1 times more likely to die?
And what about all the non-fatal risks like long COVID, lost wages, etc.

The reason you don't have an answer is because you never thought about those questions until I brought them up.

#87 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 06:42 PM | Reply

You 2.46 number is based on current Covid variants?

#88 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 06:43 PM | Reply

It's funny how I said "Impress me, you dumb little ------ bitch" and GracieAmazed chirps up.

#89 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 06:44 PM | Reply

You 2.46 number is based on current Covid variants?
#88 | Posted by visitor_

The issue here is what's your number?
You said COVID variants "just aren't that harmful."
But what's your number?

You. Don't. Have. One.

#90 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 06:47 PM | Reply

Also, you claimed "just aren't that harmful" but your only measured endpoint seems to be "death." So there's a lot of harm you're simply ignoring. Harm that matters a lot to people who don't die from COVID, which is most people.

#91 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 06:49 PM | Reply

- a lot of harm you're simply ignoring

"Be Sick for Trump!"

They'll do it. You know they will.

#92 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-20 07:03 PM | Reply

You got a five point restraint harness and rollbar in your Subaru? Always wear a helmut when driving it? What's your risk number? I don't know mine, I just know there is one.

#93 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 07:11 PM | Reply

Risk of death from covid is going down and so are vacination rates. Only 30% of healthcare workers are following CDC guidlines. Covid is over.

#94 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 07:16 PM | Reply

"Risk of death from covid is going down"

The risk goes down more when you're vaccinated.
Why can't you acknowledge that?
What's the problem?

#95 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 07:17 PM | Reply

"You got a five point restraint harness and rollbar in your Subaru?"
I would if I was gonna drive it in conditions where that's appropriate.

"Only 30% of healthcare workers are following CDC guidlines."
Are you misquoting the study from 2021 that showed 30% of workers are not following CDC guidelines?
Study: 30% of Healthcare Workers Not Fully Vaccinated
www.techtarget.com

#96 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 07:21 PM | Reply

@#57 ... Mammograms are given to men when they have symptoms or risk factors. ..

By in your current alias' #17, it said ...

... We don't give mammograms to males ...

So, what is it?

Do or don't males get mammograms?



#97 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-20 07:23 PM | Reply

@#94 ... Risk of death from covid is going down and so are vacination rates. ...

I look at vaccines as reducing my need to be hospitalized.

I do agree that the current mutations of the COVID virus have shown a less severe death result from infection.

But, how does the current HHS procedure help to show that?



#98 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-20 07:29 PM | Reply

"If you buy two lottery tickets your chances of winning are 200% higher than if you buy only one"

Sorry, math moron, but your chances of winning are only 100% higher. You'd have to buy three for it to be 200% higher.

But, take comfort: you were only off by 100%.

#99 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-20 07:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#83 ... If you buy two lottery tickets your chances of winning are 200% higher than if you buy only one. ...

Wow.

If you buy one lottery ticket, your chances of winning are infinitely higher than if you buy none.

But, buying that second lottery ticket changes the math a lot.

Is it twice infinity?

Or does it then depend upon the overall odds of the lottery, now that you are participating in the lottery.

But a 200% increase?

Not likely.

Do try harder.


#100 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-20 07:55 PM | Reply

In 2024 what was % deaths by age?

#12 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

For the millionth time you stupid sack of s^*%, there are more outcomes than death.

#101 | Posted by jpw at 2025-05-20 07:56 PM | Reply

"I do agree that the current mutations of the COVID virus have shown a less severe death result from infection."

True, but still not a good reason to not get vaccinated.

Fun fact, it was predicted at the outset that mutations would decrease the lethality of COVID. For reasons that relate to molecular evolution and natural selection.

#102 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 07:57 PM | Reply

Risk of death from covid is going down and so are vacination rates. Only 30% of healthcare workers are following CDC guidlines. Covid is over.
#94 | Posted by visitor_

When you start by citing CDC, it looks bad when you go off the Res and contradict CDC.
Rt for COVID is currently just over 1, meaning it's ever so slightly growing.

Probability COVID-19 epidemic is growing: 72.22% (not changing)
Rt Estimate: 1.04 (0.91 - 1.19)
% of ED visits (COVID-19): 0.33% (very low)
www.cdc.gov

#103 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 07:59 PM | Reply

Don't have time to read all the posts, but whoever broke snoofy, well done.

#75 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2025-05-20 06:27 PM | Reply

Why are you pretending to have a life?

#104 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-05-20 08:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Gaslighter, you are a math illiterate.

#105 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 08:41 PM | Reply

" But a 200% increase? Not likely."

Well, yes, VERY likely ... if he bought 3 instead of one.

So instead of 1 chance in ~14,000,000, it's three chances in 14 million.

Still not good, but ... .

#106 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-20 08:52 PM | Reply

" Gaslighter, you are a math illiterate."

Pal, you just made a math claim where you were off by 100%. You showed you didn't even understand the concept.

Maybe you should educate yourself before denigrating others.

#107 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-20 08:55 PM | Reply

@#105 ... Gaslighter, you are a math illiterate. ...

How so?

Please explain your current alias' reasoning behind that conclusion.

As Alf might say, I'm all ears.


#108 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-20 09:03 PM | Reply

7nbsp

@#106 ... Well, yes, VERY likely ... if he bought 3 instead of one.

So instead of 1 chance in ~14,000,000, it's three chances in 14 million. ...

thx for that follow-up.

#109 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-20 09:06 PM | Reply

Visitor meant a 200% chance, not a 200% increased chance for a total of a 300% chance.

Just like Visitor meant we don't do routine scanning mammograms on men, not we don't ever do mammograms on men.

Percents are just awful. If a process has a two percent yield per ton and you double the yield, you might say hooray, I'm twice as efficient. Meanwhile, you also have 96 tons of waste instead of 98 tons of waste. Which isn't much of a difference. Unless you just dump it in the ocean like Capitalism says it's okay to do since there's no external cost other than putting it on a boat.

#110 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 09:14 PM | Reply

Help me out with one thing, visitor_.
Why work in health care, if you do not like people or agree with helping people?
If you're not a people person, maybe don't get into a business that literally everyone needs... Or is it so you can torture them.

#111 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-20 09:19 PM | Reply

Gaslighter explain how a number slighty larger than 0 is infinitly larger than 0.

"If you buy one lottery ticket, your chances of winning are infinitely higher than if you buy none."

#112 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-20 09:41 PM | Reply

" explain how a number slighty larger than 0 is infinitly larger than 0."

Because no matter what number you multiply zero by, the result is still zero.

Zero times infinity squared, is still zero.

And still less than ANY number greater than zero.

#113 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-21 12:01 AM | Reply

That's only true for non negative numbers. But it still doesn't make gaslighter's statement correct. Here's one for you. Is 1 greater than 0.999... repeating?

#114 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-21 03:03 AM | Reply

"Is 1 greater than 0.999... repeating?"

Those are equal.

More importantly, you can't do anything important in math if they aren't equal.

Lear more by looking at the first Google hit www.askamathematician.com

#115 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-21 03:07 AM | Reply

If you buy one lottery ticket, your chances of winning are infinitely higher than if you buy none."

#112 | Posted by visitor_

They're higher, but wouldn't you say the person who buys two tickets is twice as infinitely higher?

Certainly having two tickets is double the chances of hanging just one ticket.

This is why you should have studied formal math!!

#116 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-21 03:10 AM | Reply

" That's only true for non negative numbers."

Yes.

That's why I said "greater" than zero.

Do you understand the meaning of "greater", when it comes to numbers, especially zero?

#117 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-21 03:14 AM | Reply

Snoofy, I was quoting gaslighter. The question was for Danforth not you and google. Danforth do you understand that a number slighty larger than 0 is not infinitly larger than zero? If the odds of winning with one ticket are 1 in a billion, what are the odds with 2 tickets? Anyway, the risk of dying from covid for healthy people under 50 is low.

#118 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-21 03:37 AM | Reply

The 300 lb orange kid diddler wants to bring back the mass graves he put to such good use during his first abysmal term.

www.bbc.com

#119 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-05-21 03:43 AM | Reply

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