Hamas Says It Has Lost Control over 80% of Gaza

>Muslims for Trump sheds a tear at C0RI0LANUS again forgetting about their contribution to the cause.
Muslims For Trump: We Were A Deciding Factor
>#46 | Posted by censored at 2025-07-08 09:39 AM

Conveniently, IDF have assassinated all of the journalists they can in Gaza, so your news is primarily from the Israeli perspective. International news could be reporting and disseminating on the ground reality to you.
That is, if any were permitted into Palestine by the Israeli occupying and restricting access. I guess you'll never know. Ignorance is bliss only because you're guilty.
#47 | Posted by redlightrobot

Umm, dude, that was an article about Muslims in the United States who were proudly declaring that they helped elect Trump the day after our election in 2024. Before they realized that plan was as flawless as the Palestinian strategy of calling down the wrath of Allah by hunting down, raping, and murdering 1,200 civilians on October 7th.

What does allegedly bad reporting from the fictional nation that never existed of "Palestine" have to do with it?

#49: Suit yourself, Red Light Robot. But as you see in my rebuttal, I do not cut and paste distasteful comments. Some people use drudge.com or other platforms to earnestly discuss issues with genuine people. Trolls and polemicists are not being earnest or imaginative. They use a playbook with scripted answers. Threads like this are unregulated shouting matches between one side that wants to destroy another population and the other side saying that is wrong.

So, why subject yourself to 'blatantly stupid opinions?'

BTW: The Ozzy Osbourne thread was populated with entertaining songs and genuine discussion.

Umm, dude, that was an article about Muslims in the United States who were proudly declaring that they helped elect Trump the day after our election in 2024. Before they realized that plan was as flawless as the Palestinian strategy of calling down the wrath of Allah by hunting down, raping, and murdering 1,200 civilians on October 7th.
What does allegedly bad reporting from the fictional nation that never existed of "Palestine" have to do with it?
#50 | Posted by censored at 2025-07-08 12:00 PM

Primarily, not exclusively, sure.

Include Democracy Now. It's daily and short: Top U.S. & World Headlines " July 8, 2025

#49: Suit yourself, Red Light Robot. But as you see in my rebuttal, I do not cut and paste distasteful comments. Some people use drudge.com or other platforms to earnestly discuss issues with genuine people. Trolls and polemicists are not being earnest or imaginative. They use a playbook with scripted answers. Threads like this are unregulated shouting matches between one side that wants to destroy another population and the other side saying that is wrong.
So, why subject yourself to 'blatantly stupid opinions?'
BTW: The Ozzy Osbourne thread was populated with entertaining songs and genuine discussion.
#51 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-07-08 12:17 PM

The killfile option obviously has this unforseen workaround, sure.

Re-contextualizing lemons to lemonade can humorously refine some dialogue, or help clarify something unintentionally articulated, for instance.

And I respect your input.

I missed that Ozzy thread, obviously it will have excellent offerings. When I last saw him he could not stand.

Include Democracy Now. It's daily and short: Top U.S. & World Headlines " July 8, 2025
#52 | Posted by redlightrobot

I'll think about it. But seems obviously biased from the first 30 secs I watched so far, and the presenter is not easy on the eyes or ears, so ...

Include Democracy Now. It's daily and short: Top U.S. & World Headlines " July 8, 2025
#52 | Posted by redlightrobot
I'll think about it. But seems obviously biased from the first 30 secs I watched so far, and the presenter is not easy on the eyes or ears, so ...
#53 | Posted by censored at 2025-07-08 01:03 PM

Seriously? You let your Freudian "biased" slip.

not surprised that some of you dregs

of humanity masquerading as something

else back up hamas.

Seriously? You let your Freudian "biased" slip.
#54 | Posted by redlightrobot

Sorry, don't get your meaning.

Just saying not a lot of incentive for me to watch, since the news isn't really news, so much as Hamas propaganda, and she's not even hot. But like I said, I'll consider it as I guess I'm a glutton for punishment.

Hamas Says It Has Lost Control over 80% of Gaza

Probably has something to do with the fact 80% of Gaza has been reduced to rubble.

the news isn't really news, so much as Hamas propaganda,
#56 | POSTED BY CENSORED | FLAG: Prefers Israeli Propaganda.

80% of Gaza has been turned into a junk and scrap yard by Netanyahu. Not even Hamas was to claim it anymore.

"Before they realized that plan was as flawless as the Palestinian strategy of calling down the wrath of Allah by hunting down, raping, and murdering 1,200 civilians on October 7th."

^
That plan worked fine for the Jews.

The Irgun policy was based on what was then called Revisionist Zionism founded by Ze'ev Jabotinsky.[2] Two of the most infamous operations for which the Irgun were known; the bombing of the British administrative headquarters for Mandatory Palestine in Jerusalem on 22 July 1946 and the Deir Yassin massacre that killed at least 107 Palestinian Arab villagers, including women and children, carried out with Lehi on 9 April 1948.
en.wikipedia.org

Seriously? You let your Freudian "biased" slip.
#54 | Posted by redlightrobot
Sorry, don't get your meaning.
Just saying not a lot of incentive for me to watch, since the news isn't really news, so much as Hamas propaganda, and she's not even hot. But like I said, I'll consider it as I guess I'm a glutton for punishment.
#56 | Posted by censored at 2025-07-08 01:25 PM

That's extremely cool, the same spirit that keeps us together!:]]

On topic: There are no government services in Gaza, how does Hamas functionally claim any form of control, ever??

Were there tunnels under the cafe? Or the tent?

Hamas is the legitimate government of Palestine.... but Palestine is not a legitimate state and there has never been a country known as "Palestine."

See how that works? It's a state when you need it to be, and it's a stateless people when you need it to be.

calling down the wrath of Allah by hunting down, raping, and murdering 1,200 civilians on October 7th.

Couldn't have turned out better for Netanyahu had he planned it himself.

"the fictional nation that never existed of "Palestine" have to do with it?"

So then what's Hamas the government of?
LOL.

what's Hamas the government of?

A territory of corpses.

"Couldn't have turned out better for Netanyahu had he planned it himself."

^
Roughly 300 of the Israeli deaths were in fact planned by Netanyahu.
Netanyahu planned their deaths when he implemented the Hannibal Directive.

Nosferatu Netanyahu is a vampire

#31 Corky

I had a delicious girlfriend in my early twenties. One nip on her shoulder was all it took and her clothes came flying off.

- One nip

She was Nipponese?

- One nip
She was Nipponese?
#71 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-08 04:17 PM

Lesbian at Brest!

Lesbian at Brest!
#72 | Posted by redlightrobot

No idea what this means, but it produced some of the best image search results I've seen in quite some time. You have my thanks.

There are no government services in Gaza, how does Hamas functionally claim any form of control, ever??
Were there tunnels under the cafe? Or the tent?
#61 | Posted by redlightrobot

Same way any warlords operate. See Somalia.

And the tunnels span miles. So, sure, there are some under tents.

Here's some video of IDF destroying 6 tunnels totaling 4 miles in length. www.youtube.com

The longest one I've heard of is 2.5 miles long. www.youtube.com

Those Hamasers may not be able to hold down a job or play soccer very well hopping around on one leg. But they rape, murder, and burrow with the best of them.

I wonder if the Yasser Abu Shabab organization is also using human shields or Geneva Conventions-protected entities to support their operations?

"So then what's Hamas the government of?"

The former Egyptian territory of Gaza. Hamas does not represent any sort of Palestinian state. Mostly because there is no such thing, but the closest thing to a provisional government is the Palestinian National Authority in the West Bank.

"Couldn't have turned out better for Netanyahu had he planned it himself."

Are you -------- me?

Hamas has rallied hundreds of thousands of supporters across the world to stand up and demand the destruction of the Jewish state.

If only the ISIS propaganda arm had been as effective. They might have been able to control Gaza right now. They share many of the same goals.

"Hamas has rallied hundreds of thousands of supporters across the world to stand up and demand the destruction of the Jewish state."

^
This helps the "Zionist are Victims, not Conquerors" myth which only right-wingers believe.

Hamas not only raised money overcharging Gazans for tunnel commerce (while watching them die of poisoned water they refused to pay to have treated), but their billionaire Oligarchs in Qatar were also paid by Iran to keep the heat on Israel.

Who's Settlers should be on Terrorist Lists if they aren't already.

No good guys.

"to stand up and demand the destruction of the Jewish state."

Meanwhile, the Jewish State only exists because of the Zionist Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine.

"This helps the "Zionist are Victims, not Conquerors" myth which only right-wingers believe."

They're definitely not conquerors. If they were, the war would be over. They seemed to be less effective at conquering Gaza than the US was at conquering Afghanistan. Although to be fair, they have a few more years left before we can make an honest comparison.

They will be victims if they don't win though. I don't think 'from the river to the sea' is just a trope. It's the final solution to the Jewish question.

"Meanwhile, the Jewish State only exists because of the Zionist Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine."

The Jewish state exists because the previous owners (Great Britain) deeded it to them. Pretty much following the suit of those (the Ottomans) who preceded the Brits.

And I'm not sure if you know it or not, but the Brits gave the Palestinians a state as well. The Palestinians simply made the mistake of thinking they could take the whole thing for themselves. The Zionists had developed much of what had been empty desert into lucrative enterprises. It makes sense they would want to drive out the Jews and take it all for themselves. It's actually not much different than the decision calculus of any other group that thought it would be in their best interest to kill the Jews and take their stuff. Israel is pretty much the first time that didn't work out for those wanting to do the taking.

Oh, and what is Palestine again?

"How dare these stupid Palestinian Muslim billionaire oligarchs not live in the squalor of the Gaza Strip so they can be easily picked off by the Israeli Death Forces (IDF)! Why don't these stupid superrich Palestinians living in Qatar have the same moral standards as American, Israeli, and Russian oligarchs who also make money off war and avoid combat and death? The nerve of these stupid Palestinians billionaires! What chutzpah! These Muslim Palestinian oligarchs should immediately return to the Gaza Strip so the IDF can quickly and easily exterminate them like cockroaches the way IDF physician Dr. Sabo Amos enjoys!"

forbes.co.il

#85

IF there's a Nobel Prize in Whataboutisms, I'll be sure make the nomination, 'cause that one's a sure winner!

I mean, Zuckerberg et al are no prizes, either; Musk is legalizing pollutants in black towns and they may End the World with WFC AI fighter bots, but saying they are no different than Hamas Oligarchs doesn't make Hamas Oligarchs smell any better.

Leasers on both sides in the current conflict deserve to go to the Hague Court after this is over.

Leaders (one key off!)

Oh, and what is Palestine again?
#84 | Posted by madbomber

Palestine is the attic of Israel, where the Anne Franks of Israel hide.

"And I'm not sure if you know it or not, but the Brits gave the Palestinians a state as well."

Oh, there's a Palestinian state?
Why doesn't Israel agree with you?

#90 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS

So, it looks like they're making progress. Once Gaza is turned over to Israel/Trump for reparations, we might be on the path to seeing this entire thing resolved once and for all.

It's beyond comprehension to me how people can't hear Theodor Hertz calling for European Jews to colonize Palestine, and then deny that's exactly what happened and continues to this day.

I really don't understand the pushback.

It's like denying the United States was founded by Europeans who started the Thirteen Colonies represented by the thirteen stripes on our flag.

"They will be victims if they don't win though. I don't think 'from the river to the sea' is just a trope. It's the final solution to the Jewish question."

Same is true of the Palestinians.
Except it's actually happening to Palestinians.
As the map shows, beyond any shadow of a doubt.

As you are fully aware, the Zionist vision of Eretz Yisrael extends From The River To The Sea.

The map the Palestinians refused in 1937 where they would receive 80% of the land. The first time they refused statehood, which they have never had in the history of the world, because it would require them to share the land that they stole from others.

How Palestine rejected offer to have its own state 5 times in the past
https://lawandsocietymagazine.com/how-palestine-rejected-offer-to-have-its-own-state-5-times-in-the-
past/?blockquote>

"How Palestine rejected offer to have its own state 5 times in the past"

The original offer required Israel to recognize the Palestinian state.
Israel has never done that, so a more accurate statement would be:

How Israel rejected the existence of a Palestinian state, five times in the past, and still today.

"Muslims! Argh! Kill them all! Blargh! Hamas! Hamas! Grr! Stupid hijab wearers!"

- where they would receive 80% of the land.

"The October 1973 War: How it led to the first Arab recognition of Israel

Fifty years after the Arab-Israeli war, Israel continues to occupy the West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza."

www.aljazeera.com

"Egypt was expelled from the Arab League, and all Arab countries broke diplomatic relations with Cairo following its normalisation with Israel.

Egypt was accused of disregarding the Palestinian cause, but 50 years on more Arab countries are eager to establish ties with Israel relegating the Palestinian issue to the side.

Jordan followed Egypt in signing a peace treaty with Israel in 1994 while several countries, including the United Arab Emirates, recognised Israel as part of the so-called Abraham Accords in 2020."

;;
Coming Attractions: The TRUMP Abraham Accords 2.0

With likely 10 countries in all signing, more or less depending on how they are counted as many have changed names and borders over the years.

Of course, it's all about a Nobel for him... 'specially since he's not going to get one for Ukraine at the rate he's going.

Come to think of it.... he MUST have Plan to destroy the Presidential Historians who ranked him DEAD LAST of all Presidents.

Wonder if they are in hiding?

...while several countries, including the United Arab Emirates, recognised Israel as part of the so-called Abraham Accords in 2020."

None of those countries having an actual border with Israel.

"Egypt was expelled from the Arab League, and all Arab countries broke diplomatic relations with Cairo following its normalisation with Israel."

Finish the story.

Sadat got assassinated by ultranationalist Muslims for recognition of Israel.

Just like Rabin got assassinated by ultranationalist Jews for recognition of Palestine.

Difference is, Egypt today still recognizes Israel.

Israel to this day does not recognize Palestine.

So the Jews are a quarter century behind where the Muslims are, when it comes to being a grown-up nation.

Like I have said since this started.... there's way more bad guys on both sides pulling the strings than there are good guys.

The people of these nations are mostly peaceful and kind, all of them. But Crass Capitalism is what made the ME what it is today, with what are basically Corporate Controlled Govs and Militaries calling the shots.

Recent reports state IDF is in control of over 85% of Gaza and is still murdering Palestinians.

www.aa.com.tr

www.aljazeera.com

At this point. They better kill them all.

Any survivors will return for retribution.

As of 9 July 2025:

Israeli population: (est. 9,482,644)
Palestinian population: (est. 5,590,874)

The IDF perpetrated 26 massacres over the past 48 hours, killing over 300 Palestinians. There certainly are way more bad guys on one of the sides pulling the strings.

"Thank you for the money and munitions, hardworking American taxpayers!"
Signed,
The Israeli Death Forces (IDF) High Command

The IDF perpetrated 26 massacres over the past 48 hours, killing over 300 Palestinians. There certainly are way more bad guys on one of the sides pulling the strings.
#105 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS

I reiterate:

What would the cycle look like through the eyes of a Palestinian, I wonder.

Perhaps.

1) Suffer.

2) Retaliate.

3) Die.

@#104 ... Any survivors will return for retribution. ...

That is a secondary concern I have about this current action by Israel, what sort of retribution is it building up for the future?

You never really want walk up to a really bad man, who you know is a really, really bad man, and rape and kill his family in front of him.

He's just going to do worse to you.

"Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) worked with Hamas to plan its 7 October 2023 surprise attack on southern Israel and gave the green light for Hamas to launch the assault on a meeting in Beirut on 2 October.

In the Hamas-led attack, Palestinian militants killed 1,200 Israelis, primarily civilians, and took around 200 Israeli civilians and soldiers hostage.[24] In the weeks leading up to the attack, some 500 fighters from Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad received training in Iran, under the guidance of the IRGC Quds Force.[25]"

en.wikipedia.org

@#109

While I am hoping for a ceasefire, I will same a ceasefire is exactly and only that.

A ceasefire.

It is not a truce.

It is not a peace treaty.

Stated differently, there's no peace treaty with North Korea, only an armistice.

Korean Armistice Agreement
en.wikipedia.org

... The Korean Armistice Agreement (Korean: " / ; Chinese: """" / """") is an armistice that brought about a cessation of hostilities of the Korean War. It was signed by United States Army Lieutenant General William Harrison Jr. and General Mark W. Clark representing the United Nations Command (UNC), North Korea leader Kim Il Sung and General Nam Il representing the Korean People's Army (KPA), and Peng Dehuai representing the Chinese People's Volunteer Army (PVA).[1] The armistice was signed on 27 July 1953, and was designed to "ensure a complete cessation of hostilities and of all acts of armed force in Korea until a final peaceful settlement is achieved."[2] ...

...

WASHINGTON " The Trump administration has assured mediators that it does not intend to allow Jerusalem to resume fighting against Hamas in Gaza following a 60-day ceasefire, even if this is not explicitly included in the text of a deal being hashed out in Washington and Qatar, an Arab diplomat and a second source familiar with the matter told The Times of Israel on Wednesday.

The issue of whether Israel will be able to restart its military campaign at the conclusion of a proposed 60-day ceasefire and the release of 10 living and 18 dead hostages is one of the main sticking points in talks that have failed to produce a breakthrough even as leaders continued to express optimism that one can be reached.

www.timesofisrael.com

@#111 ... When an appeals court remands the lower court unanimously due to "lack of evidence" it's a strong indication the case should not have ever been brought. ...

A ceasefire would be A Great Thing.

I would welcome it, if it leads to an ultimate peace treaty between Israel and the Palestinians.

A Peace Treaty.

Like this one ...

Egypt"Israel peace treaty
en.wikipedia.org

... he Egypt"Israel peace treaty[1] was signed in Washington, D.C., United States, on 26 March 1979, following the 1978 Camp David Accords. The Egypt"Israel treaty was signed by Anwar Sadat, President of Egypt, and Menachem Begin, Prime Minister of Israel, and witnessed by Jimmy Carter, President of the United States.[2] ...

A Palestine State?

imo, possibly, but not likely. I doubt Israel would not allow a free, independent Palestine State.

And that may be why, decades from now, the Middle-East may still be a volatile hot-spot.

Taking the attention of US Presidents away from internal problems.

You never really want walk up to a really bad man, who you know is a really, really bad man, and rape and kill his family in front of him.
#109 | Posted by Corky

That was the Palestinians' entire point in committing their atrocities on October 7th. To intentionally target, rape, and murder civilian women and children, and then play victim when Israel defended itself and Allah visited his wrath upon the Palestinians. They had the nerve to hold protests here nationwide on Israel's retaliation the day after, before Israel had even done anything except throw some paper towels down to soak up its children's blood.

Personally, I don't like being manipulated, so the Palestinians can enjoy the FAAFO educational process in all its glory as far as I'm concerned.

The fact that the world bought into the Palestinian's faux victimhood shows how much the Jews are hated, and why Jews need to hold onto Israel. Because the Muslims will finish the process that various other nations have been working towards for millenia; ending the Jews once and for all.

"If we have to have a choice between being dead and pitied, and being alive with a bad image, we'd rather be alive and have the bad image."
- Oscar Meyer

"In the weeks leading up to the attack, some 500 fighters from Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad received training in Iran, under the guidance of the IRGC Quds Force"

^
Why did Netanyahu let the terrorists leave Gaza to attend terrorist training camps in Iran?

"That was the Palestinians' entire point in committing their atrocities on October 7th."

The entire point is they were using the same playbook Irgun used 75 years ago.
A history that Censored must always deny.

It's kinda creepy how committed he is, to denying Zionist atrocities.
But that's just who he is as a person. Seems strange for a non-Jew, but whatever.

October 7 was a reminder of the Deir Yassin massacre that killed at least 107 Palestinian Arab villagers, including women and children, carried out with Lehi on 9 April 1948.
en.wikipedia.org

"Why did Netanyahu let the terrorists leave Gaza to attend terrorist training camps in Iran?"

Follow-up question:
Why did Netanyahu let the trained Palestinian terrorists back into Gaza, after they attended terrorist training camps in Iran?

Make it make sense, Censored.

"I doubt Israel would not allow a free, independent Palestine State."

Israel has not been allowing a free, independent Palestinian State since 1948.
Israel will never allow Palestine to exist.
Israeli leadership has repeatedly stated this fact publicly.

"Israel has not been allowing a free, independent Palestinian State since 1948."

Israel didn't really have a say in the matter. It was Palestinians that rejected a free, independent, Palestinian State.

"Oh, there's a Palestinian state?"

Yer right. The Brits offered the Palestinians their own state, but the Palestinians rejected it.

#90

In 1947, there was no Palestinian land. Unless you're referring to Mandatory Palestine, which was actually British land.

Technically in 1947, it was all British land.

"It's beyond comprehension to me how people can't hear Theodor Hertz calling for European Jews to colonize Palestine and then deny that's exactly what happened and continues to this day."

Theo could have called on jews-not sure why you make the distinction between European Jews and any other Jews-to colonize Mars if he wanted. It was British territory. It wasn't up for colonization. If anything, the Brits were the colonizers, having inherited the role from the Turks. And technically, the Arabs in the region are just the descendants of the Arab colonizers who invaded during the Islamic conquest.

"How Israel rejected the existence of a Palestinian state, five times in the past, and still today."

Dude, Israel did not exist in 1937.

"Israel to this day does not recognize Palestine."

That's not true. The Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) formally recognized Israel's right to exist as a sovereign state while Israel formally recognized the PLO as a legitimate entity representing the Palestinian people, per the Oslo accords.

Has something changed since 1993?

"Israel to this day does not recognize Palestine."
That's not true. The Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) formally recognized Israel's right to exist as a sovereign state while Israel formally recognized the PLO as a legitimate entity representing the Palestinian people, per the Oslo accords.
Has something changed since 1993?
#123 | Posted by madbomber

That's not recognition as Palestine. That's recognition of representation of a people.

"I doubt Israel would not allow a free, independent Palestine State."

I'm not clear. Do you think Israel would or would not allow an independent Palestinian state.

To maybe shape your answer, I would draw your attention to post-WWII Germany and Japan. I think there were many at the time who felt that Germany and Japan would never be able to overcome their historical belligerence and would therefor need to be occupied and controlled by US and allied forces indefinitely. And the allies created the structures for that indefinite occupation. Here we are, 80 years later, and Germany is the 4th largest economy on earth and a global leader. So is Japan. And most notably, there are no occupational governments necessary to pacify these countries.

It did help that the commies did drive past enemies to connect in an incredibly short time period, but if Palestine was to be de-nazified, why couldn't it be as successful as Israel has been?

Yer right. The Brits offered the Palestinians their own state, but the Palestinians rejected it.

#119 | Posted by madbomber

Are you getting this from the Israel's propaganda sites?

It never happened.

The British made assurances of a Palestinian state if the Palestinians rose up against the Ottoman Empire 1915-1916.

Immediately after in the very same year, 1916, the British entered the Sykes-Picot Agreement with France to maintain international administration over Palestine instead.

1 YEAR LATER the British passed the Balfour Declaration supporting giving Palestine to the Jewish people.

The closest was the 1939 White Paper suggesting an independent Palestine within 10 years. Both Arabs and Jews initially rejected it. Palestinians rejected it because it didn't allow actual independence or self-governance. Essentially Israel would be allowed to ignore it (they turned out to be right) and the real authority would still be with the British.

However, the Arab Delegation DID sign the White Paper anyway.

Why did it fail? Britain and Israel tore it up. Britain rescinded it at the end of WWII. Israel's literal first official act was to end it.

So WTF are you talking about?

The Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) formally recognized Israel's right to exist as a sovereign state while Israel formally recognized the PLO as a legitimate entity representing the Palestinian people, per the Oslo accords.
Has something changed since 1993?
#123 | Posted by madbomber

Yes, several things have changed since 1993.

First, the Olso Accords did not have Israel recognizing Palestine as a state:
"The Oslo Accords did not create a definite Palestinian state.[3]" en.wikipedia.org

Second "Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Rabin was assassinated in 1995 by a right-wing Israeli extremist for signing them.[7][8]"
en.wikipedia.org

Other points of interest: "Less than six months after the signing of the DOP, an Israeli extremist killed 29 Palestinians in the Cave of the Patriarchs massacre.[5]" en.wikipedia.org

"Following the assassination of Yitzhak Rabin, the labor party's recently selected prime minister Shimon Peres' would give the green light for the assassination of Yahya Ayyash, which Avi Shlaim describes as "the greatest mistake of Peres's political career" due to the subsequent rise of suicide attacks." en.wikipedia.org

As for Yahva, he was a product of IDF Apartheid: "He planned to study for a master's degree in Jordan, but soon after being denied a student visa, he joined Hamas." en.wikipedia.org

Finally, in 1996 and many times since his election, Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu has publicly stated that Israel would never recognize a Palestinian state.

And he's not alone. After then Coastal Road Massacre, Israeli prime minister Menachem Begin stated in a press conference that Israel "shall not forget the carnage" and added that "there was no need of this outrage to understand that a Palestinian state would be a mortal danger to our nation and our people."[28] en.wikipedia.org

So, anyone who tells you Israel would ever allow a Palestinian state to exist is a liar, and probably a Zionist too.

It might help you to understand that if you were willing to learn that Netanyahu and Begin believe in Revisionist Zionism: Revisionist Zionism is a form of Zionism characterized by territorial maximalism. Revisionist Zionism promoted expansionism and the establishment of a Jewish majority on both sides of the Jordan River.[1] Developed by Ze'ev Jabotinsky in the 1920s, this ideology advocated a "revision" of the "practical Zionism" of David Ben-Gurion and Chaim Weizmann which was focused on the settling of Eretz Yisrael (Land of Israel) by independent individuals. Differing from other types of Zionism, Revisionists insisted upon the Jewish right to sovereignty over the whole of Eretz Yisrael, including Mandatory Palestine and Transjordan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revisionist_Zionism

Zionist Jews have always wanted everything From The River To The Sea, and they leave no doubt about it in their own words.

They're Nazis.