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The Epstein affair is coming to a head even as the public loses all faith in his economic policy, and the whole structure of fear on which his regime rests appears to be evaporating.

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-- Raw Story (@rawstory.com) Nov 19, 2025 at 12:30 PM

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Trump set up a zero-sum game with his own country. Given that there has to be loser in this game, I'm glad it's Trump and not me.

No pity until this dog's teeth are fully removed. He needs medication and therapy, but a dog he is and will always remain.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-19 08:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Crash and burn, Donald. Soon, please.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-20 10:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Paul Krugman, who has a severe case of TDS, has been wrong on his predictions so many times that if you went against them your portfolio would be up 50%. He predicted GDP would come in at about 1.8%, it came in at just about 4%. Well done Paul, again.

#3 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-11-20 11:06 AM | Reply

#3 TDS = Trump Devoted Sycophant

Time for some new material.

#4 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-20 11:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

russia
fine people
yada yada yada
epstein

WE GOT HIM NOW BOYS...

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

#5 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-11-20 11:50 AM | Reply

One dem after another is being exposed

larry summers

jasmine crocket is so stupid she could
be one of you leftist.....saying lee whats his name
took money from epstein ....except 5 mins of
looking shows it was DR J epstein....but she said her team
didn't have time to research it but she said it in congress anyway
...sounds like you dweebs dopes and donkey butzz

#6 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-11-20 11:54 AM | Reply

deflectors set to maximum!

#7 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-11-20 11:56 AM | Reply

and then the idiot dem....redundant who was getting
texts from epstein about questions to ask in
a hearing.

AND katie Couric and midget stephenopulous having
dinner with epstein AFTER he admitted his guilt

but after all that it's still the leftist DR cry

WE GOT HIM NOW..

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

#8 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-11-20 11:56 AM | Reply

One dem after another is being exposed

-------------, the 300 lb sack of---------- was mentioned thousands of times in the Trumpstein files.

#9 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-20 11:57 AM | Reply

deflectors set to maximum!

#7 | Posted by Alexandrite

figures you're still a trekkie or star wars guy...

#10 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-11-20 12:00 PM | Reply

#6 Oh, there you are.

You are the living, breathing example of Poe's Law:

Poe's law is an adage of Internet culture which states that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent (such as an emoticon, tone indicator like "/s", or explicit declaration), it is impossible to distinguish between a sincere expression of extremist views and a parody or satire of those views.
You are actually a raving, lunatic left-winger, doing your damnest to convince people that you're actually a right-winger, in order to make all right-wingers look ridiculous.

You are, in a direct sense, exactly like the older woman, wearing a Trump T-shirt, also wearing a COVID mask with a replica of a (rather large) black phallic + --------- (and black -----, natch), while yelling at anti-Trumpers www.reddit.com

You think you're doing your side good; you are doing a good job of ridiculing your side.

Congratulations.

#11 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-20 12:02 PM | Reply

#9 | Posted by reinheitsgebot

says a retarded drone like you who had fallen for every
pea brained hoax from the lying scum suckin media
whores for the pastt 14 years...
-the same sources with ZERO cred anymore after
lying for years about trump and biden.

--your stupid effing S means less than ever,

you poor little mindless bigot.

#12 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-11-20 12:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#12 POSTED BY -------------

Says the extra-chromosomal --------- who swallowed every one of the child-raping orange jizzfart's 35.000 lies.

#13 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-20 12:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A_Friend

take out your--------- autographed by reinsagoober
and replace it with this.....
just for dopes like you

Gullible:
A synonym for credulous, this word is often used to describe someone who is easily tricked or fooled because they believe everything they hear.....
from the dem butt loving media and DR cretins...

Delusional:
In a psychiatric context, this term refers to a belief that is fixed and false, persisting despite evidence to the contrary.

#14 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-11-20 12:11 PM | Reply

35.000 lies.

#13 | Posted by reinheitsgebot

some DR sap said it ....time for new material..something
with a shred of truth in it.
"you people" are too bigoted and stupid to know the difference
between jokes/ satire / put ons and F' dems.

you're still a worthless goober....and still obviously language
illiterate.

stop stealing your paycheck and do something

#15 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-11-20 12:14 PM | Reply

14 | POSTED BY SHRIMPTACODAN

Quiet, Piggie.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2025-11-20 12:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

The bankruptcy-prone-------------------'s war on American farmers picks up steam.

www.alternet.org

#17 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-11-20 12:15 PM | Reply

#14 Thank you so much for detailing your issues of being gullible and delusional.

What I said about you in my #11 stands.

Care to dispute it?

Point-by-point?

Or do you just want to continue to ridicule your own side, like the older white woman, wearing a Trump T-shirt, also wearing a COVID mask with a replica of a (rather large) black phallus + --------- (and black -----, natch)?

#18 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-20 12:15 PM | Reply

#15 Awwww, he reads my stuff!

#19 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-20 12:16 PM | Reply

Delusional:
In a psychiatric context, this term refers to a belief that is fixed and false, persisting despite evidence to the contrary.

#14 | Posted by shrimptacodan

MAGA: Trump's innocence.

#20 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-11-20 12:16 PM | Reply

deflectors set to maximum!

#7 | Posted by Alexandrite a

HEY maybe reinsagooberskr can loan you his spock ears for
your next comiccon....

#21 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-11-20 12:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#15 Sorry, charlie, but 35,000+ lies (and counting) from the anus-mouth president is not "old material."

So long as his lips are moving, he's lying.

That's just about as fresh material as one can get.

#22 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-20 12:18 PM | Reply

#15 Awwww, he reads my stuff!

#19 | Posted by A_Friend

not for long...I don't steal employers time
like you scum sucking trash...generally speaking.

#23 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-11-20 12:18 PM | Reply

#23 I am gainfully retired.

Now, why are you refusing to dispute my #11?

Can't?

Or won't?

#24 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-20 12:20 PM | Reply

#22 | Posted by A_Friend

wow....I post def of gullible and delusional

and you picked both right up.

--if an accordion and a banjo where dropped

off a skyscraper....not which would hit first.

who would care ?

THAT"S a gift from me to the DR coven....people who
show us each day what a sad and miserable life it
is to be mad, angry and dishonest....all day long.

#25 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-11-20 12:22 PM | Reply

#25 Mad and angry? You're joking, right? Watching you gullible and delusional fools defending a pedophile is immensely entertaining.

Watching you gullible and delusional fools pretending the orange anus-mouth is anything but a gimp is grab-the-popcorn entertainment.

And, as for being dishonest: Prove that, you older white woman, wearing a Trump T-shirt, also wearing a COVID mask with a replica of a (rather large) black phallus + --------- (and black -----, natch), while defending the Trump.

Prove that.

Your turn.

You know you can't help yourself.

#26 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-20 12:27 PM | Reply

#23 I am gainfully retired.

it's great isn't it ?....6 saturdays and a sunday

except I have continued to help humanity and the country

by exposing lying leftist freaks and fanatics.....

I'm ignoring that post because it's incorrecto and

more of your passive aggressive garbage....I don't have time

to reply to dumbfk BS

#27 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-11-20 12:49 PM | Reply

deflectors set to maximum!

#7 | Posted by Alexandrite

you think I deflected....you
should go read your fellow lying dopes respond to the dem woman who used texts from epstein to ask and respond in a hearing...a woman who also
was funded by him....AFTER HE WAS FOUND GUILTY..

just another democrat iconic hero.... like ted kennedy who murdered his pregnant secretary

and MAJOR DEM CONTRIBUTOR NAMED JEFFREY EPSTEIN.

#28 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-11-20 12:53 PM | Reply

#23 You said I don't steal employers time..."

And now you're claiming that you are retired too, but sanctimoniously claimed that everyone on the left are stealing "employers time."

And it isn't 6 Saturdays and a Sunday.

Don't you know: To a dog, every day is Saturday.

#29 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-20 12:56 PM | Reply

#28 The Retort's very own old white woman who wears a Trump T-shirt and also wears a COVID mask with a replica of a (rather large) black phallus + --------- (and black -----, natch), while defending the Trump.

That would be you, ---------------------------------.

#30 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-20 12:58 PM | Reply

"russia
fine people
yada yada yada
epstein
WE GOT HIM NOW BOYS...
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

OK Pedo.

I noticed the amount of "A"s in your post increases the more your pedo cult leader seems to be failing. I have a feeling you'll end up in a straight jacket shouting "aaaaa..." etc. eventually. Probably a minimum of file miles away from any schools.

#31 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-11-20 01:19 PM | Reply

What a waste of bandwidth all of the above is.

#32 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2025-11-20 01:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

and MAJOR DEM CONTRIBUTOR NAMED JEFFREY EPSTEIN.

#28 | Posted by shrimptacodan

Go back far enough and you'd likely find Trump was a major Dem contributor as well.

Before he realized he could pad his coffers forever by becoming a Republican.

#33 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-11-20 03:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Shrimpdork is carrying around a couple extra chromosomes.

#34 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-11-20 06:35 PM | Reply

#3 ahhhh yes. Fistedp^%%# commenting about someone else's track record of being right.

#35 | Posted by jpw at 2025-11-21 08:48 AM | Reply

#3 TDS = Trump Devoted Sycophant

TDS = The Daily Show.

Where Jon Stewart skewers Trumpy and his maga maroons daily.

#36 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-21 11:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Re 36

Ok. Only on mondays now but his crew skewers them the rest of the week.

#37 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-11-21 11:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How many years have you Lumpers been saying this ...


Before he realized he could pad his coffers forever by becoming a Republican.
#33 | POSTED BY DBT2

Perhaps but have you seen the fraud and grift happening in CA and MN?

Makes Trump look like a piker.

#38 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-21 11:26 AM | Reply

#38 A billion dollar "free" 747?

Crypto.

Give us a break from your lackluster gaslight attempts, onewithanabsolutelyf*qedhandle.

#39 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-21 11:30 AM | Reply

Was she called piggy because she was asking too many questions?

#40 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-21 09:07 PM | Reply

Was she called piggy because she was asking too many questions?

Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-21 09:07 PM | Reply

Who cares why she was called piggy. The POTUS isn't supposed to be calling anyone names.

#41 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-11-21 09:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#40 Excusing pedophilia.

Now excusing misogyny.

Is there now level in which this bj boi will sink?

#42 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-21 09:15 PM | Reply

@#40 ... Was she called piggy because she was asking too many questions? ...

Nice deflection attempt.

From what I saw, Pres Trump hurled that degradation at the reporter because the reporter asked him a question he did not like.

In the Oval Office, a reporter asked him a question he did not like, and he then has threatened to have his FCC obsequious drones investigate ABC because of that reporter's question..



#43 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-21 10:07 PM | Reply

Laura,

"Who cares why she was called piggy. The POTUS isn't supposed to be calling anyone names."

I never said I agreed with it.

Yeah, it's not standard protocol.

But if a grown adult can't handle a blunt comment from the person in charge, they're in the wrong line of work. Power doesn't slow down for delicate feelings, and the people who hold it know that.

After decades dealing with owners and executives, I saw one thing.

Thin skinned people get chewed up.

Not because anyone is cruel but because that's how the top of the food chain operates.

Some of you liberals sound shocked every time a politician acts like anything other than a guidance counselor.

It comes from living a life so cushioned that normal, everyday bluntness feels like an attack.

I've worked with a handful of decent bosses. The rest? Demanding and absolutely uninterested in your emotional comfort.
That's the real world.

Trump doesn't pull his punches.

#44 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-21 10:11 PM | Reply

#44 drudge.com

#45 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-21 10:17 PM | Reply

#44

You're the clearance-sticker end-cap sex doll at a Dollar Tree for dictators with erectile dysfunction. Glossy-eyed, hollow-headed, and shrink-wrapped in synthetic virtue. The only thing missing is a pull string that screams Fake News' and moans Jesus saves' on loop.

You are not defending a leader. You are fluffing a decaying sex-crime jack-o'-lantern who gets turned on by his own reflection like it's a fetish site login, and whose idea of statesmanship is shrieking witch hunt with the sweaty, irradiated confidence of a nuclear scrotum in gold leaf.

#46 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-21 10:18 PM | Reply

#44 You really said "Trump doesn't pull his punches."?

You are the mouth mule version of chewing tinfoil in a lightning storm. A praise-clapping spin puppet for indicted demagogues in designer diapers. A pearl-clutching political mascot who thinks Jesus died so you could expense your lashes and write off gaslighting as ministry.

You defend a man whose name is all over the Epstein files. A man who moved Epstein's madam to a luxury prison spa. A man found liable for sexual abuse in civil court. A man who bragged about grabbing women by the pussy and then called a woman "piggy" for asking him a question he didn't like. And you called that refreshing.

You are the same woman who looked into a camera and called an Epstein survivor a "so-called victim," complete with air quotes so sharp they could've circumcised a conscience. A woman who took her own life last year after crawling out of a billionaire-funded hellscape. And you packaged that trauma into a punchline. You called it a "Democratic hoax," like court transcripts were fan fiction and pain was a liberal marketing strategy.

#47 | Posted by A_Friend at 2025-11-21 10:20 PM | Reply

Laura,
"Who cares why she was called piggy. The POTUS isn't supposed to be calling anyone names."
I never said I agreed with it.
Yeah, it's not standard protocol.
But if a grown adult can't handle a blunt comment from the person in charge, they're in the wrong line of work. Power doesn't slow down for delicate feelings, and the people who hold it know that.
After decades dealing with owners and executives, I saw one thing.
Thin skinned people get chewed up.
Not because anyone is cruel but because that's how the top of the food chain operates.
Some of you liberals sound shocked every time a politician acts like anything other than a guidance counselor.
It comes from living a life so cushioned that normal, everyday bluntness feels like an attack.
I've worked with a handful of decent bosses. The rest? Demanding and absolutely uninterested in your emotional comfort.
That's the real world.
Trump doesn't pull his punches.
#44 | Posted by BillJohnson at

Your lack of self awareness is something to behold

"a grown adult can't handle a blunt comment " like a president that can't handle a reasonable question without reacting like a child?

"they're in the wrong line of work." President Piggy certainly is as he doesn't understand the basics of the job

"Power doesn't slow down for delicate feelings, and the people who hold it know that." Delicate feelings? Like being insulted because he was asked a question? Hint people who are actually powerful, you know, confident, do not act like children throwing a temper tantrum

"Thin skinned people get chewed up." President Piggy is the thinnest skinned person in modern history, possibly in centuries

"Not because anyone is cruel but because that's how the top of the food chain operates." Perhaps you could quote any president in American history who called a female reporter a "piggy" for asking a question (or something as equally as childish) I'll wait

"Some of you liberals sound shocked every time a politician acts like anything other than a guidance counselor." Only the soulless would not be offended by that sort of behavior from a leader, let alone the POTUS

As an aside, should the president NOT have to answer to the country for his actions and statements? I mean is it his right of office to not be answerable?

"Trump doesn't pull his punches." Trump's baby hands can't reach the end of his shirt sleeves let alone hit someone.

Honest question, do you think calling a female reporter denotes strength?

#48 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-21 10:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Honest question, do you think calling a female reporter "piggy" denotes strength?

#49 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-21 10:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Was she called piggy because she was asking too many questions? .

No, you stupid assumption filled fuck.

#50 | Posted by YAV at 2025-11-21 10:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Truth,

"Honest question, do you think calling a female reporter denotes strength?"

No...it makes him a jerk.

Look how he addressed Zelinksky.

I doubt the reporter is carrying on like everyone else.

Reporters aren't wimpy if they're good at their job.

#51 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-21 10:41 PM | Reply

BillJohnson the president isn't in charge of the press you ding-a-ling. The press is the unmentioned 4th branch of government. They are tasked with holding the other three accountable to the citizenry. With that said. The president calling a member of the press piggy is crossing the line. Of course you won't get that.

#52 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-11-21 10:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

he president isn't in charge of the press

They should hold the Correspondent's Dinner next year but not invite him.

#53 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-21 10:56 PM | Reply

@#52

I wish I had said that.

Thanks.

NW.

#54 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-21 10:59 PM | Reply

I WILL say this for BillJohnson... he CAN sing!

www.youtube.com

#55 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-21 11:11 PM | Reply

Laura,

"The press is the unmentioned 4th branch of government."

I knew there was something wrong with public schools.

What's next? Men can have babies?

#56 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-22 12:40 AM | Reply

The media is often called the "fourth branch of government," a term that signifies its role in informing the public and acting as a check on the legislative, executive, and judicial branches. This concept, also known as the "Fourth Estate," emphasizes the media's power to shape public opinion and policy by providing information, holding officials accountable, and facilitating public discourse, though the term can sometimes be used critically.
Role as a check on other branches
Information: The media is crucial for citizens to be informed about the world and the actions of their government, which is necessary for a responsive democracy.
Accountability: By investigating and reporting on the government, the press helps hold elected officials and other powerful figures accountable for their actions.
Public discourse: The media provides a platform for public discussion and debate on important issues, helping to shape public opinion and influence policy.
The "Fourth Estate"
The term "Fourth Estate" emerged in the 18th century, suggesting the press has an equal status to the three branches of government.
The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects freedom of the press, highlighting its importance in a democratic society.
Criticisms and alternative meanings
The term can be used critically to suggest that the media is not truly independent but instead acts as another part of the government or is beholden to special interests.
Some critics have also applied the "fourth branch" label to other powerful entities that influence government, such as the bureaucracy or regulatory agencies.

#57 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-11-22 12:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#56 ... I knew there was something wrong with public schools. ...

That's the response your current alias has?

So lame.

#58 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-22 12:59 AM | Reply

@#57

Another NW reply.

#59 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-22 01:00 AM | Reply

Laura,

The 3 branches have governing power.

Does this "4th branch" have governing power.

#60 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-22 01:22 AM | Reply

Does this "4th branch" have governing power.

It took out Richard Nixon.

#61 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-22 01:27 AM | Reply

@#60 ... Does this "4th branch" have governing power. ...

I do not see the comment your current alias seems to be replying to as saying that the Fourth Estate has governing power. That just seems to be a figment of your imagination.

What I did see in #57 were the words ...

...The media is often called the "fourth branch of government," a term that signifies its role in informing the public and acting as a check on the legislative, executive, and judicial branches. ...

The First Amendment of the Constitution ...

...
First Amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
...





Of course, that then begs the question ...

Why does Pres Trump seem to be so afraid of the Freedom of the Press?




#62 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-22 01:35 AM | Reply

@#61 ... It took out Richard Nixon. ...

The reporting of the press was a driver to, let's say, convince those close to Pres Nixon to encourage him to resign.

But the press did not do the act of Pres Nixon resigning.

It was the information the press presented.



#63 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-22 01:44 AM | Reply

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