Fake ICE Agents Terrorizing Migrants Throughout US

This is what I voted for.
--Boaz

"This is an unfortunate outcome of the escalation of activities on the left and the right in regards to illegal immigration enforcement."

Stupid "both sides" nonsense.
Tell us, KWRX25, which "side" is doing the illegal immigration enforcement?
That's the side that is escalating things and giving rise to the "unfortunate outcome" of domestic terrorism.

Why aren't you simply honest enough to say it's Trump and Trump alone that is responsible for the escalation of illegal immigration enforcement?
You not being able to do that puts you in league with those who won't to take a side on whether the moon landings really happened.
Won't take a side on who really won the 2020 election.

It doesn't do anything to improve your credibility.
Quite the opposite, your credibility is in the toilet.
Thanks for reading and understanding.

"the left has pushed open borders snoofy, then sanctuary cities."

You would too, if you supported Federalism and Small Government and Free Trade.
Somehow, you have either forgotten you believed in those things, or remembered that you never really did.

Until Trump politicide immigration, most police themselves and especially big city police leadership supported sanctuary cities.
Can you tell us why the police specifically supported sanctuary cities for immigrants?
What was in it for the police?
Can you demonstrate a basic understanding of the issues in play?

"The left started doxing"

No they didn't. Police, like all government workers, are public servants.
When Michael Fanonoe wore a name tag next to his badge, was he doxxing Officer Fanone?
I wonder if you ever actually claimed to oppose the Secret Police, now that you're licking their boots.
Can you demonstrate a basic understanding of the issues in play?

"-The problem is republicans have made it difficult for people to come legally."
"I keep reading here that it's the republicans who've made it easy for undocumented immigrants to be here."

Those aren't mutually exclusive.
Republicans very firmly believe that some immigrants are more equal than others.

Trump targeted Black Somalis in Blue Minnesota.
Those immigrants are less equal.

Trump sells Golden Passports to rich immigrants.
Rich immigrants are more equal.

regardless of who is wrong or right you can't agree that the current situation of vigalantes impersonating ICE is due to an out of control arms race of each side trying to one up the other in escalating the stakes?
#15 | Posted by kwrx25

No, you stupid ------- ------.
No.

because the people impersonating ICE have the same mission as actual ICE!:
Let's harass, assault, victimize and otherwise make life miserable for the Immigrants we hate.

How do you not understand something so simple?

The police have decided to stop wearing nametags, and now people can't really tell the difference between ---------ers and police!
--America

Well, the left is partly to blame for that.
--KWRX25

Is the Right going to stop that?
--Snoofy

No, it's necessary for police protection.
--KWRX25

So you're saying The Right supports police hiding their identities, so that gangs can more easily masquerade as police?
-snoofy

Yes
--KWRX25

But you said the left was (partly) "to blame" for police hiding their identity, and now you're saying you support police hiding their identity. So what's to blame? You should be giving credit to both sides, since police hiding their names is something you actually support.
--snoofy

You just don't get it. The fact that nobody on The Left supports this, and only people on The Right support this, don't let that fool you. The Left and The Right have equal input, when it comes to who sets ICE policy.
--KWRX25

ICE wants Immigrants to not be sure if the people breaking into their home are cops or ---------ers.
ICE wants immigrants to live in fear.
That is the goal of all of this.
The goal: Immigrants leave.

And The Left is partially to blame for ICE terrorizing Immigrants.
--KWRX25

"The left hasn't cooperated"

See, this is what makes you a bootlicker.

You claimed the left was escalating.
But not cooperating, that isn't escalating.

Your comment tells us that you think we're obligated to cooperate with police, and not cooperating with police is an act of escalation. In your mind, not cooperating with the police is akin to resisting arrest.

It's funny because you know factually you're wrong here. But your words belie what you truly believe
You believe the fascist citizen bootlicker getting a government check is a better human being than the illegal immigrant working a private sector job.

And if you don't, you're sure going to have a hard time convincing anyone on the DR about that, ever.

"We cant have nameless faceless officers and vigilantes."

You blamed nameless faceless officers and vigilante on "escalation" from "the left" which is complete ---------.
The cops and no one other than the cops are to blame for nameless faceless officers and vigilantes.

How do you suck so bad at figuring out the police are responsible for what the police do?
How do you suck so bad at that?

Headline: A Noticias Telemundo investigation documented a marked increase in cases of people posing as federal agents to rob, intimidate and even injure or rape immigrants.

KWRX25: Leftists are partially to blame for this.

"Ultimately someone will do something stupid(pose as a fake agent) but that doesn't mean you are at fault."

The police are at fault for not wearing name badges.

Nobody else.

Why is this so hard for you to agree with?

"However, it is necessary to step back and view how that back and forth has gotten us into an environment that is enabling bad behavior, in order to try to unravel the bad situation."

That doesn't change who's to blame, and that doesn't change who's responsible for how the police conduct themselves.

So. Why is it necessary here? What purpose does it serve?
How will it help us unravel the fascist police?

You go ahead and do it
Step back and explain "how that back and forth has gotten us into an environment that is enabling bad behavior"

Now explain how seeing that is going to help us try to unravel the bad situation.

I'm 98 percent sure you're just making noises intended to sound rational and level-headed, but not actually saying anything.

Pretty sure you're lying. Pretty sure you don't see anything that's going to get the ICE thugs to put on name tags.

So please, prove me wrong. Show me what you discovered by taking a step back, that's going to get the ICE pigs to put on name tags.

Snoofy, there is a difference in ones actions leading someone else to take actions that cause you to take actions... ad naseum.

By not wearing name tags, people getting home invaded don't know if it's desperate criminals or Federal agents with body armor. One of those you can fight back against. The other will disarm you and execute you on the street without so much as a public inquiry.

ICE made it easier, not harder, for thugs to to home invasions.

ICE created that risk. Nobody else.

You might as well just plonk me if you're too dumb to figure that out, because I am going to run your stuoid face in your own stuoid shit until you learn, you hear me boy?

"However, it is necessary to step back and view how that back and forth has gotten us into an environment that is enabling bad behavior"

Republicans and Trump gave ICE $150B to terrorize civilians at their homes and jobs and churches and schools and hospitals and travelling on the roads.

ICE began violently ramming suspect cars with their cars, smashing windows and dragging people from vehicles before even being given a chance to exit freely. Shooting at civilians and lying about it afterwards. Detaining people including citizens for days on end with no charges filed. Detaining immigrants for weeks on end at tremendous taxpayer expense for no legitimate purpose. Causing prisoners to die when they were not allowed their meds. Violently killing prisoners in severdl cases. For a detained population that is overwhelming free of any criminal history.

ICE unilaterally escalated violence against the civilian population. Republicans cheered it on. Enterprising criminals decided they could go ahead and use the same tactics that ICE is using against civilians, knowing that Republicans don't mind when civilians get dragged from their cars and their homes broken into.

That is how we got here.

The left did none of this.

It's all Trump, all Republicans, all the Cops.

And little Eichmanns like you who say we need to take a step back and investigate how we got here, instead of calling a fascist pig a fascist pig.