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Wednesday, May 01, 2024

Pro-Palestinian student activists say their movement is anti-Zionist but not antisemitic. It is not a distinction that everyone accepts.

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From the river to the sea!!!

#1 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2024-05-01 05:29 PM | Reply

"It is not a distinction that everyone accepts."

And some people think the world is flat. In reality; zionism is anti-Semitism.

#2 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2024-05-01 05:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I'd say the "outside agitators" who can't legally enter the campus because they aren't students, but who are assaulting students directly in front of the cops and getting away with it are fairly antisemitic.

After all, many of the students protesting the extermination state are Jewish.

The people who are cheerleading the extermination state can't even say it on US state sponsored news.

They have to say things like "JVP" when referring to the groups that are leading the protests.

What does the "J" in "JVP" stand for??

#3 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-05-01 05:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Personally, I thought it was a bit over the top when they built those special showers outside Royce Hall.

#4 | Posted by moder8 at 2024-05-01 05:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

What Makes a Protest Antisemitic

Whatever the big donors that support Israel say it is.

#5 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2024-05-01 05:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I'm getting pretty tired of our media painting ANY criticism of Israel as "antisemitic", and excusing Israel of their actions since that terrible attack on Oct 6th. While I agree that the attack committed by Hamas was horrific, it should not excuse Israel in killing almost 35,000, and displacing more than 1 million Gazans since that attack. President Biden should be insisting that Benjamin Netanyahu and his thugs cease their offensive immediately.

#6 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-05-01 06:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Tangentially related...

New York City Warned of 'Radicalization' Infiltrating City
www.newsweek.com

... New York City officials warned of "radicalization" infiltrating the city amid ongoing pro-Palestinian protests at different college campuses, including Columbia University in Manhattan.

During a press conference on Wednesday, New York Police Department (NYPD) Deputy Commissioner of Intelligence and Counterterrorism Rebecca Weiner said that there is "a concern around radicalization" in the city. She stopped short of calling it "homegrown terrorism" but said officials were seeing a concerning "trajectory" among young people.

Mayor Eric Adams made similar comments during the press conference, saying, "There is a movement to radicalize young people, and I'm not going to wait until it's done and all of a sudden acknowledge the existence of it."

"This is a global problem that young people are being influenced by those who are professionals at radicalizing our children and I'm not going to allow that to happen as the mayor of the city of New York," Adams added.

Newsweek reached out to the NYPD and Columbia University via email for comment. ...


#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-01 06:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

If you see protests on American colleges as an existential threat to your existence, you might just be a colony.
--Jeff Foxswarthy

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-01 06:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Zionism is antisemitic.

Unconditional support for Israel is antisemitic.

Supporting apartheid is antisemitic.

Supporting genocide is antisemitic.

#9 | Posted by DarkVader at 2024-05-01 06:39 PM | Reply

Does Mossad have an outpost in Columbia?

Have they infested many ivy league corporate investment firms?

#10 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-05-01 09:34 PM | Reply

Probably, and probably.

It's widely speculated that Ghislaine Maxwell trafficked girls to men in power, so Mossad could develop Kompromat on them. Something her father would have been proud of.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-01 09:56 PM | Reply

Does Mossad have an outpost in Columbia? [...] #10 | Posted by redlightrobot

Does Hamas have an outpost at The Retort? Oh wait, there you are. Never mind.

#12 | Posted by censored at 2024-05-01 10:59 PM | Reply

Does Mossad have an outpost in Columbia? [...] #10 | Posted by redlightrobot
Does Hamas have an outpost at The Retort? Oh wait, there you are. Never mind.
#12 | Posted by censored at 2024-05-01 10:59 PM

How did agitators acquire skunk?

#13 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-05-01 11:51 PM | Reply

Probably, and probably.
It's widely speculated that Ghislaine Maxwell trafficked girls to men in power, so Mossad could develop Kompromat on them. Something her father would have been proud of.
#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-01 09:56 PM

Aka Antisemitism Task Force.

#14 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-05-02 12:33 AM | Reply

It's not in the least bit antisemitic to be horrified by and condemn the IDF's behavior. (Condemning Hamas as well, although the comparison does rankle some because of the IDF's self-promotion as the "most moral" army in the world [pffft!].) I'm more curious about the thinking of those who've parked their humanity at the doorway and appear to see nothing wrong with imposing lethal punishment on people because the Israeli government has chosen to go the collective punishment route. "We have met the enemy," wise Pogo observed, "and he is us."

#15 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-05-02 05:44 AM | Reply

I'm more curious about the thinking of those who've parked their humanity at the doorway and appear to see nothing wrong with imposing lethal punishment on people because the Israeli government has chosen to go the collective punishment route. "We have met the enemy," wise Pogo observed, "and he is us."

I've been trying to figure out where to put this post. There was a interesting discussion yesterday on Morning Joe that really got me thinking:

The.Ink, from Anand Giridharadas @AnandWrites

Today on "Morning Joe," we had a spirited, and civil, debate about campus protest, civil disobedience, the civil rights movement, the founders, and more.

It's rare to have 20 minutes like this on TV, and I'm grateful for the chance we were given.

VIDEO: the.ink

For those of you who don't want to spend 20 minutes and can get to Twitter, you can listen to a salient snippet here:

America was built on civil disobedience.

It is possible to hold the line against violence and intimidation while insisting on protesters' rights -- and being curious enough to absorb what they're telling us that we may be too jaded to hear.

twitter.com

One point that captured my attention:

"Students through out history have often been telling us something really vital that almost everybody else in society is too afraid or too paid to say."

I would add "too complacent" or "too overwhelmed by life's challenges and responsibilities" to the list, but, yes, students are often unjaded and tenacious enough to see and say what others can't or won't. Have we forgotten that pior to the October 7 Hamas attack on Israel, that Israelis themselves were protesting en masse against Netanyahu's corrupt administration? The deadly attack didn't cause Bibi to change his stripes, and it's Bibi who is running the show in Israel's war against Gaza in ways that are questionable and mixed at best and self-serving and potentially criminal at worst. Saying so isn't anti-Semitic.

#16 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-05-02 08:55 AM | Reply

"Universities Face an Urgent Question: What Makes a Protest Antisemitic"

It isn't just universities that face this question. All of American society does.

#17 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-05-02 09:33 AM | Reply

I think too many times Israel hides behind the veil of calling any criticism of their barbaric actions as Antisemitic. It's how they get so many Americans to go along with their actions. Fear of being called an antisemite.

#18 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-05-02 09:41 AM | Reply

Israel is not really separable from Jewish identity since just after WW2.

#19 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-05-02 11:35 AM | Reply

If that's true why are so many Jews anti Israel?

Whole sects of Judaism reject the idea of Israel.

It's like saying the Catholic Church is Christianity. Obviously not true.

And Judaism is a religion not a race or ethnicity. The whole concept of a Jewish State is something like the Islamic State or a Theocracy.

#20 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-05-02 12:31 PM | Reply

Way to truly deflect from the real issue. This one took some deep thinking, for sure. The problem isn't the hate. Reps have been fighting that battle for a long time, I'm glad Dems are having to come around. What someone's opinion is isn't the problem. The problem is when, because of their opinion, they break laws and cause violence or other such illegal protesting, full stop.

But, again, way to try to deflect from the real issue. Definitely top-notch spin tactics here.

#21 | Posted by humtake at 2024-05-02 12:52 PM | Reply

Why does anyone have to accept that distinction? Why is this an "urgent question"?

If they really were antisemitic, that's their prerogative. I would disagree with it wholeheartedly, but until they engage in illegal action they have every right to express their f&^%ed up views.

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2024-05-03 12:50 AM | Reply

Reps have been fighting that battle for a long time

LOL Republicans (not all) are the most hateful people you'll ever meet.

#23 | Posted by jpw at 2024-05-03 12:51 AM | Reply

#2. And WW 2 was anti Lutheran and anti Catholic. Nothing to do with the actions of Germany and Italy, right?
But America's grovelling before Israel continues unabated.

#24 | Posted by northguy3 at 2024-05-03 03:54 PM | Reply

#18- tell Israel it's probably rude to target and murder aide workers and it screams " but the Holocaust". Complain when the IDF attacks an American naval vessel and " but Auschwitz". Both are guaranteed money makers.

#25 | Posted by northguy3 at 2024-05-03 03:57 PM | Reply

#18- tell Israel it's probably rude to target and murder aide workers and it screams " but the Holocaust".
- northguy

What about Biden? Did you think it was rude when Biden targeted the waterboy and his children?

#26 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-05-03 03:59 PM | Reply

What about Biden? Did you think it was rude when Biden targeted the waterboy and his children?

POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT AT 2024-05-03 03:59 PM | REPLY

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#27 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-05-03 04:01 PM | Reply

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