Trump Taps Kash Patel for FBI Director

Sunday, December 01, 2024

President-elect Donald Trump has picked Kash Patel to serve as FBI director, turning to a fierce loyalist to upend America's premier law enforcement agency and rid the government of perceived "conspirators."

Posted by gracieamazed at 05:30 PM | 160 COMMENTS | permalink

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Fat Donnie Chump is going to be going through a bad time.

#1 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-11-30 08:22 PM

"After Trump left the White House, Patel held a number of jobs including hosting shows on far right media outlets.

On a podcast two months ago, Patel said anyone involved in "Russiagate" should be stripped of their security clearances.

According to Patel, there is a "massive" list of such government officials, from the FBI and Justice Department to the CIA and U.S. military.

"They all still have clearances," including those who left government for private sector jobs, so "everybody" should lose their clearances, Patel said."

abcnews.go.com

Vengeance is mine, saith L'ard Trump!

This is what you magat scum voted for

We will go out and find the conspirators not just in government, but in the media," said former Defense Department official Kash Patel

"We're going to come after you whether it's criminally or civilly," Patel said of Trump's political foes. "We'll figure that out."

Magat scum

So they'll launch 10,000 Benghazis all at once and ignore actual threats (like themselves)

" On a podcast two months ago, Patel said anyone involved in "Russiagate" should be stripped of their security clearances."

So ... Patel is denying what Republicans ADMITTED in The Rubio Report.

So ... he's not just carrying water, he's MAKING water.

Trump the Clown just nominated a FL County Sheriff to become.... wait for it... the DEA Chief.

It will be interesting to see how all of this plays out.

"It will be interesting"

Yeah.

Chinese curse "interesting".

Trump the Clown just nominated a FL County Sheriff to become.... wait for it... the DEA Chief.

Posted by Corky at 2024-11-30 11:19 PM | Reply

The stupidity just keeps on going doesn't it?? We're so screwed the next four years.

Nincompoops to destroy the regulatory state.

That's the plan. Capture the regulators in charge by appointing known polluters and ---------.

Get easy compliance by ignoring problems until they become obvious and expensive to correct.

Baby Bush did it. Clinton too.

Obama Bailed out corrupt Bankers on the backs of hard working people.

None of this is remotely new.

Trump is just doing it in a particularly open and unapologetic way.

It will be interesting to see how all of this plays out.

Posted by BellRinger at 2024-12-01 12:17 AM | Reply

there are none so blind as those who will not see

Predictions are like pie-holes. Everyone has one.

On a number of important policies I really like what I'm hearing from the incoming admin. Words, actions and success are all completely different. So, I'm in wait and see mode. If, and it's a big if, the incoming administration is able to achieve its stated goals with illegal immigration, foreign policy, all- in energy, purging horrible toxic DEI from our government ... .(not an all inclusive list) it will be very positive. It's an uphill struggle and it will likely mostly be executive actions which will make the accomplishments temporary

PM Narendra Modi of India can't wait. He'll have co-religionists as ODNI and D/FBI. Modi's Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) has been implicated in Sikh assassinations in North America-- so called "enemies of the state."

Sources:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-unseals-indictment-sikh-killings-1.7043428

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/03/americas/canada-sikh-nijjar-assassination-suspects-intl-latam/
index.html

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Government_Gangsters/pvyuEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PT15&printsec=frontcover

It's the latest bombshell

Oh FFS. Skyrocket and bombshell are two words that are way overused.

This is Trump throwing a turd into the FBI.

And all the righties here cheering it are doing nothing more than prove how hollow their previously professed beliefs were.

It will be interesting to see how all of this plays out.

#8 | Posted by BellRinger

No, you f*&^ing idiot. It's going to be a disaster and a national security crisis.

F*&^ off you stupid POS.

So, I'm in wait and see mode.

No, you're in 'finger my own a&^hole' mode and will figure out the excuses and deflections later.

You're an idiot. Period.

You're cheering the gutting of the United States because a. you're stupid and b. you're such a mediocre dumbass you want everyone else to be as bottom of the barrel as you are.

" ... will be interesting to see how all of this plays out."

Oh, please, do let us know when the price of eggs hits your happy spot.

As I read each of the hyperbolic hysterics commenting I"m reminded of the picture of obama standing by

trump at his first inauguration knowing that Obama's FBI had spied on the trump campaign as well as

journalists...( James Rosen )

--"The FBI collected a Fox News correspondent's phone call data, e-mails and State Department visits while investigating a national security leak by a State Department employee.

--and threaten press freedoms guaranteed by the First Amendment."

www.aclu.org

didn't give a shvt then though did ya ??

" On a number of important policies I really like what I'm hearing from the incoming admin."

Careful you don't pull a muscle, carrying all that water.

" As I read each of the hyperbolic hysterics "

Go on the record then: will tariffs increase consumer prices?

" knowing that Obama's FBI had spied on the trump campaign"

Who's feeding you all that manure?

The surveillance was ON THE RUSSIANS. It's not the government's fault members of Team Trump kept walking in the room.

Is it your position the surveillance should've STOPPED when, say, Jeff Sessions walked in?

Remember when Jeff the iron turd was against "lawfare" when the dems were not actually doing it?

"Remember when Jeff the iron turd was against "lawfare""

Yep.

Remember when he finally provided an example of lawfare against Trump?

NO ONE ELSE DOES EITHER.

A hundred requests, zero examples.

" On a number of important policies I really like what I'm hearing from the incoming admin."

Which policies are those?

Kash as head of the FBI?
The guy for heroin but against vaccines?
The DOE head who couldn't get hired as a teacher?
Or the guy wanting to impose tariffs who doesn't understand tariffs?

Be specific.

Posted by Danforth at 2024-12-01 10:59 AM | Reply

Good luck with that.

Traditionally, FBI Dirs were apolitical; many lasting through the terms of Presidents of different Parties.

Now we have the FBI Dir as the Pres's personal Executioner of his enemies.

Thanks, Trumpsism!

" purging horrible toxic DEI from our government ... .(not an all inclusive list) it will be very positive."

What a riot.

Trump hasn't named a single cabinet nomination based on qualifications. And he's planning on replacing quality with loyalty.

You know, stuff that would explode your head if a (D) was after the name.

It's entertaining to watch the pure anger coming from the likes of JPW, Danforth and Twoothy. JPW has been dialing it up and I truly love seeing it.

The biggest know it all of all time getting his comeuppance. It's beautiful.

You know, stuff that would explode your head if a (D) was after the name.

Posted by Danforth at 2024-12-01 12:03 PM | Reply

Especially if it was Obama doing it. WOWSERS Talk about a hyperventilating cooze Jeff would be.

It's entertaining to watch the pure anger coming from the likes of JPW, Danforth and Twoothy. JPW has been dialing it up and I truly love seeing it.

The biggest know it all of all time getting his comeuppance. It's beautiful.

#29 | Posted by BellRinger

Point and laugh at the self-admitted troll

What a piece of ---- you are jeff, seriously there is nothing redeemable about you

Always remember trash boy no one around here has the least bit of respect for you

You're scum and always will be

" It's entertaining ... "

IOW, he has no answers to valid questions.

It's entertaining to watch the pure anger coming from the likes of JPW, Danforth and Twoothy. JPW has been dialing it up and I truly love seeing it.

The biggest know it all of all time getting his comeuppance. It's beautiful.

#29 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-12-01 12:25 PM | Reply

In your haste at owning the liberals. Be wary that you aren't in actuality owning yourself. Just sayin

" IOW, he has no answers to valid questions"

Valid questions? You're joking, right?

" In your haste at owning the liberals. Be wary that you aren't in actuality owning yourself. Just sayin

#33 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2024-12-01 12:47 PM | REPLY | FLAG:l"

I'm not owning anyone.

I'm laughing at the self-immolation of some of the lefties on this site.

" I'm laughing at the self-immolation of some ... "

Try addressing the valid questions instead of studiously avoiding them.

jeff is just a troll, nothing more than living among the lowest form of scum on the internet.

"I'm not owning anyone."

You are owning your future self.

Once Again.

Danforth,

When you ask a serious question i will answer.

So far, all of your questions are about predicting how things will turn out. I've already said I'm in wait and see mode.

" So far, all of your questions are about predicting how things will turn out."

No they aren't.

They were direct questions about folks like Patel and McMahon.

One is a Q-Anon cultist, and the other couldn't get a teaching job.

Kash has admitted he's interested in LAWFARE. If you had an ounce of class, you'd be railing against him.

And do you endorse the Brainworm guy for HHS, who's AGAINST vaccines but FOR heroin?

o far, all of your questions are about predicting how things will turn out. I've already said I'm in wait and see mode.

#39 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

More like ---- you be mode

#39 | POSTED BY BULLBRINGER

You should feel honored anyone is willing to engage with you.

You're nothing more than a liar and a troll who deserves nothing more than mockery and contempt.

" They were direct questions about folks like Patel and McMahon. "

I don't know anything about them. Haven't had the opportunity to research them. Last week was very busy between work and getting ready for Thanksgiving.

Based on his first term Trump was very hit and miss with his appointments. So far, i was mortified by his Gaetz selection. Thankfully that one tanked.

"I don't know anything about them"

Bull.

Regardless, Kash has endorsed lawfare. Will you be railing against his lawfare as much as you railed against (the non-existent) lawfare against Trump?

"I was mortified by his Gaetz selection."

What a riot.

If he'd gotten confirmed, you'd be carrying his water. Just like you'll do for the rest of his crappy nominations.

IRONY FLAGS:
- Folks, who ranted about the weaponization of the DOJ (with little, if any, evidence BTW!), are now supporting the selection of an individual who has (both verbally and actually) said he will do precisely that: the weaponization of the DOJ.

- Folks, who were concerned about the excessive reach/intrusion and expansive use of government power (especially towards individuals!), are now delighted that the President-elect claims he will do precisely that to slake his thirst for vengeance and revenge.

- Folks, who bemoaned the division amongst American citizens and the fracturing of their social ties with those citizens, now support the President-elect's plans to magnify that division in an effort to promote the "US" vs ""THEM".

After a bit more thought, it's difficult to determine if this situation is more ironic or hypocritical.
In any event: you built that.

I'd like to Congrats! Jeffy for attaining the coveted Attention Troll of the Year Award.

Almost as good, LFT will never get over losing the Miss Congenital Disorder Award to Robson.

" Regardless, Kash has endorsed lawfare. Will you be railing against his lawfare as much as you railed against (the non-existent) lawfare against Trump?

#44 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2024-12-01 02:42 PM | FLAG: "

Yes. Unlike you, I do not support weaponizing the legal system.

" If he'd gotten confirmed, you'd be carrying his water. Just like you'll do for the rest of his crappy nominations.

#45 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2024-12-01 02:44 PM | FLAG: "

Here's the thing. You are hyper-partisan therefore you project that onto anyone you disagree with. I am not. I was outspoken against the Gaetz nomination from the get-go. I might be mistaken but I'm pretty sure you were soundly in the Biden is sharp as a tack' camp.

"I was outspoken against the Gaetz nomination from the get-go."

That doesn't change the fact you'd be carrying water for him one iota.

" Here's the thing. You are hyper-partisan ... "

Nonsense. I'll criticize any politician when they're wrong.

Meanwhile, you'll look for excuses, carry water, and/or keep yourself ignorant lest you lose a precious talking point.

" Unlike you, I do not support weaponizing the legal system."

You've had 100 chances to show a single case of lawfare against Trump, and failed every time. And when there was clear lawfare against Hunter Biden, you were silent.

I guarantee you'll be carrying water for Patel if he gets confirmed. Or his actions if he becomes the Deputy Director.

And pretending I support weaponizing the legal system?! You can stuff your projection up your arse.

101 chances now.

" "I was outspoken against the Gaetz nomination from the get-go."

That doesn't change the fact you'd be carrying water for him one iota.

#50 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2024-12-01 04:06 PM | FLAG: "

Straw man much?

" Nonsense. I'll criticize any politician when they're wrong."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

'Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut said on NBC that he will vote no, expressing concern that Patel "is going to only care about protecting Republicans." And Murphy pledged to help his colleagues and the American public "understand what's happening here."

"Donald Trump told the American public during the campaign that he was going to turn the Department of Justice into a political operation, an arm of the White House, to destroy his political opponents," Murphy said.

"Kash Patel's only qualification is because he agrees with Donald Trump that the Department of Justice should serve to punish, lock up, and intimidate Donald Trump's political opponents.

And so the cost to the American public is pretty simple"

www.cbsnews.com

" You've had 100 chances to show a single case of lawfare against Trump, and failed every time. And when there was clear lawfare against Hunter Biden, you were silent."

I've done it numerous times. And you don't need to shed tears for Hunter Biden. The prosecution tried to tank his case. Plus the Big Guy will pardon him.

" I've done it numerous times."

Then it should be easy to call one up. Because you've never done it when I've been around.

Go ahead. And if you don't, I'll keep pointing out to everyone you still haven't pointed to a single charge of Trump's, which you or I could do without fear of legal repercussions.

That's the barometer for lawfare. Post away.

" Straw man much?"

On the contrary: an observation. Pointing out you carry water for anyone with an (R) after their name is obvious to anyone who can read.

(By the way, you obviously still don't understand what the word strawman means.)

Dan, I am around here frequently and can state categorically that I have never seen jeff answer that question, ever.

It's ALMOST like he is a lying piece of ----.

Almost as good, LFT will never get over losing the Miss Congenital Disorder Award to Robson.

#47 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-01 03:11 PM | Reply | Flag:

Look at Corky holding up his Special Olympics Blog Posting Award. I'd like to offer a special congrats, considering he does it all from his hover-round.

#60

Being witty requires at least a bit of wit. You must have been standing behind the door when it was being handed out.

More likely standing behind Trump, ready to serve.

The Alvin Bragg case was a joke. Even Andrew Cuomo said as much. Taking a possible misdemeanor book keeping error after the statute of limitations and manufacturing 34 felonies was a pathetic joke. If it ever goes to appeal it will be demolished.

Houck had a minor altercation near an abortion clinic that the locals chose not to pursue.

The feds? Pre dawn raid with the intent of imprisoning him for 11 years. Lawfare lost but the process is the punishment.

I can go on and on but you all cheer this crap.

Don't even get me started on the IG report regarding all of the FBI abuses investigating Trump.

You all cheered saying on Carter Page.

" The Alvin Bragg case was a joke"

Falsifying business records.

Bragg works out of a division that averages four FBR cases PER DAY.

In addition, investors got screwed compared to the rate Trump would've been charged had he told the truth.

The public also got screwed, since they had to make up what Trump's false statements cost the public till.

How is that case a joke? You claim fails.

As for the others, I have no idea nor do I care what you're referring to. The subject was lawfare against Trump, and I've proffered ample information to prove your silly claim wrong.

" You all cheered saying on Carter Page."

... BECAUSE he told the FBI Russia was actively trying to recruit him.

Why do you always leave out the important part?

" The feds? Pre dawn raid with the intent of imprisoning him for 11 years."

Are you referring to the Classified documents Trump lied about having, lied about returning, had his lawyers lie about returning, and had his underlings relocate to avoid detection, all while delaying for a year?!?

THAT poor victim? FFS, anyone else would be rotting in jail until the trial.

If your point is Trump was treated unfairly, you failed miserably.

Trumpers like Jeffy listened to Trump try to bribe, cajole, and threaten state officials to just find enough votes for him to win.... but they don't care.

They watched, or could have watched, literally dozens of their fellow Trumpers testify under Oath to his J6 crimes... but they don't care.

Courts all over the country found that J6 defendants, including violent rioters and state officials who followed Trump's orders, including Fake Electors who are in prison today for their crimes... but they don't care.

All they care about is some fantasy about 'owning libs'... and spend their time on laughable Whataboutisms, none of which rise to the level of what Trump did to stay in power.

It's pathetic, really.

" BECAUSE he told the FBI Russia was actively trying to recruit him.

Why do you always leave out the important part?

#65 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2024-12-01 07:08 PM | FLAG: "

He was regarded as an asset by the CIA.

But of course you vociferously defend unlawfully obtained FISA warrants.

" Are you referring to the Classified documents Trump lied about having"

No. I was referring to Mark Houck.

" As for the others, I have no idea nor do I care what you're referring to"

So you don't care when people are targeted for their political views but don't have the resources to employ top dollar lawyers?

Lawfare extends way beyond Trump.

Being witty requires at least a bit of wit. You must have been standing behind the door when it was being handed out.

More likely standing behind Trump, ready to serve.

#61 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-01 06:21 PM | Reply | Flag

Whitty? They're not laughing with you, they're laughing at you. Because you're an old Geritol(TM) addict, who swings a mean cane at those who he cant catch up to.

- Whitty?

Bad speller, too. His list of non-accomplishments is truly impressive.

He can't run fast like Jeffy does from points he has no Retort to, though.

" So you don't care when people are targeted for their political views"

Just because you still can't point to Trump's lawfare, you don't have to embarrass yourself.

You were tasked to show where Trump was a victim of your claimed lawfare. TOTAL FAIL.

" Lawfare extends way beyond Trump."

Regardless, it doesn't INCLUDE Trump. Which has been your pretense all along.

And your claim the Bragg case would be overturned on appeal? On what grounds?!?

Be specific; it can't just be because of your fee-fees.

BELLRINGER is on the ropes. Ironic..

Who knew Idiocracy would prove so uncannily prescient? And no matter how many layers I peel back,I still don't get the joke. Patel will forever be the TGIF manager who yells at his wait staff in front of customers.

This isn't a cabinet. It's a junk drawer.

"And your claim the Bragg case would be overturned on appeal? On what grounds?!?"

The question remains. unanswered.

" And your claim the Bragg case would be overturned on appeal? On what grounds?!? "

The prosecution didn't lay out in advance which crimes the accounting errors covered up.

The judge's denial of the defense to bring in expert FEC witness testimony.

The judge allowing Cohen to legally define the crimes that Trump hid via an accounting error.

The judge instructing the jury that they didn't have to be in complete agreement regarding which so- called crimes Trump hid.

In-trial charging of Trump for election fraud which was outside of the jurisdiction of that court.

That's not a complete list.

Lawyer Jeffypoo, lmao.

I imagine Et Al slapping his forehead on his desk when he sees crap like this.

Which point is wrong and why?

Most of them... the Judge wasn't required to do any of those things; all you are doing is repeating the Grandstanding Whines of the Trumper House Reps who lined up outside the Courtroom each day to get some media time.

"The prosecution didn't lay out in advance which crimes the accounting errors covered up."

It has been pointed out to jeff dozens of times that this is not required. It has been explained to him with supporting legal opinions, the applicable law itself and basic logic that it is not required, it has been explained to him that even the defense did not object to this, because they understood they had no justification for an objection.

Yet here he is, once again, making the same claim.

This is why people think you are a liar jeff, because you lie, without shame.

You're a pathetic troll.

No one respects you jeff, that must hurt.

Well, as a wise man once said, "Truth Hurts"

Plenty of legal experts have ripped into the fact that the crime was not spelled out in advance.

Even legal experts disagree with each other from time to time.

Liar

Here is the law itself

nycourts.gov

In order for you to find the defendant guilty of this crime, the
People are required to prove, from all of the evidence in the case,
beyond a reasonable doubt, each of the following two elements:
1.
That on or about (date) , in the county of (county)
,
the defendant, (defendant's name),

Select appropriate alternative:
made or caused a false entry in the business records
of an enterprise; or altered, erased, obliterated, deleted, removed or
destroyed a true entry in the business records of an
enterprise; or omitted to make a true entry in the business records
of an enterprise in violation of a duty to do so which
the defendant knew to be imposed upon him/her by
law or by the nature of his/her position; or
prevented the making of a true entry or caused the
omission thereof in the business records of an
enterprise; and,

That the defendant did so with intent to defraud that
included an intent to commit another crime or to aid or
conceal the commission thereof

Absolutely nothing says the underlying crime has to be presented. You are a lying piece of ----.

10s of thousands of people are charged under this statute

Again, you're a ------- liar. Once again you are shown definitive proof that your claim is --------. You are a pathetic piece of ---- liar

it has been explained to him that even the defense did not object to this, because they understood they had no justification for an objection.

Liar

For a verdict to be valid, Trump's lawyers argued, the jury should have to settle on a specific legal theory. The prosecution disagreed. Under "the standard application of the law," lead prosecutor Matthew Colangelo argued, jurors can convict Trump as long as they unanimously agree that he falsified business records with "an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof." In Colangelo's view, jurors do not have to agree on what that underlying crime was. Merchan sided with the prosecution, adding new complications to a case that was already convoluted and confusing.
reason.com

This is why people think you are a liar jeff, because you lie, without shame.

Back at you LackOfTruth.

And again,

Michael Cohen was found guilty of crimes associated with these documents, meaning ipso facto that there was an underlying crime being concealed.

You're such a ------- liar you are truly pathetic.

'The Atlantic' article examines 'The man who will do anything for Trump'
www.npr.org (October 4, 2024)

...

NPR's Steve Inskeep talks to Elaina Plott Calabro of The Atlantic about her profile of Kash Patel, a key figure in former President Trump's plans for a return to the White House.

STEVE INSKEEP, HOST:

If Donald Trump should win the presidency again, he will need people to govern with him. Many aides from his first term have turned against him, but we may learn something from those who remain ready to serve, like Kash Patel, who's talked about as a possible future official. Elaina Plott Calabro of The Atlantic profiled this official who rose quickly in the Trump administration.

ELAINA PLOTT CALABRO: Really, at his peak, he was chief of staff for the acting secretary of defense. But at the very end of the Trump administration - I mean, I'm talking, really, the final weeks - Trump was attempting to promote him to be deputy director of the CIA with the idea that he would remove Director Gina Haspel and then be able to promote Kash Patel to acting director without having to go through the hoops of Senate confirmation.

INSKEEP: Why did this man rise in government so quickly, and what made so many other people in government uneasy about him?

PLOTT CALABRO: He - to a degree that I really haven't seen from other people I've covered around Trump - was able to ingratiate himself to Trump himself. I was told that, just from the outset, he was focused on how to get more face time with Trump. One White House official from that time told me that Trump sort of looked at Kash Patel and said, I understand that he's the person that I could say to, I'm not telling you to break into the DNC, but wouldn't it be nice if that could happen?

INSKEEP: A man so loyal that even some Trump loyalists told Calabro they were disturbed. ...

Who is Kash Patel, the man who will do anything for Trump' (August 29, 2024)
timesofindia.indiatimes.com

... According to The Atlantic, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley warned Patel not to engage in illegal activities to keep Trump in power, though Patel has denied this account.

The Atlantic also noted that Patel's potential roles, such as deputy director of the FBI and CIA, faced strong opposition. Attorney General Bill Barr reportedly told the White House chief of staff, "Over my dead body," while CIA Director Gina Haspel threatened to resign.

Despite his lack of a clear agenda, Patel's loyalty to Trump was unmistakable. The Atlantic described Patel as focused exclusively on satisfying Trump's demands, a trait that set him apart in an administration filled with loyalists. ...

Twoothy is too stupid to understand that the Constitution is the law of the land.

" Sixth Amendment
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

One interesting thing about the Patel nomination is his promise to release the Epstein files.

I've seen a lot of people suggest Trump had made trips to Epstein Island. If t releasing the files show that we could potentially be looking at a third impeachment and Trump would have no one to blame but himself.

You dumb ----,

he was indicted

Here is the indictment.

www.manhattanda.org

Right there he was informed of the nature and cause of the accusation. That is tried and true satisfaction of the 6th amendment you lying piece of ----

Not even ----ler's lawyers claimed that the indictment wasn't met.

Christ you are a ------- liar.

10s of thousands have been tried and convicted under that statute.

- Plenty of legal experts have ripped into the fact that the crime was not spelled out in advance.

They are not the Judge, and his rulings have been upheld when questioned.

" d intent to commit another crime"

How can any defense adequately prepare for trial if they aren't informed what "another crime" is?

They can't and it's one of the factors that I believe will result from the ruling being overturned on appeal.

You got every bit as nasty with m3 when Colorado tried to remove Trump from the ballot. You used all of the same personal attacks when I challenged it then. Guess what happened? SCOTUS shot it down 9-0. You really should consider humility. You got your ass spanked on that one. If this case ever does go to appeal (sentencing has been postponed indefinitely) I will merilously rub your POS face in it when it's overturned which I believe to be the extremely likely outcome.

---- you ----.

Ask yourself why the million dollar defense didn't raise that issue.

Cause you're a lying piece of ---- troll, you won't admit the truth.

----ler clearly doesn't think his defense attorney's screwed up since he is appointing them to his administration.

And ---- you the SC got it wrong, the plain language is the plain language.

It was a 9-0 ruling, moron.

No normal person goes into a blood rage over a disagreement on the minutia of a court case. You really do belong in a padded room.

No normal person

Well, that eliminates you.

You're a QANONsense nutter who gets all his information from rightwing propaganda sources.

You've done the same thing... or worse.

Ranting on for hours and days about some aspect of a case that some lawyer like Jonathon Turley, who had to write some kind of attention-grabbing take so he can get paid.

" You've done the same thing... or worse."

When have I ever levied personal attacks with anything remotely close to the venom Twoothy spews?

It's why I say he needs to be in a padded cell. Losing his ---- over a disagreement on this and countless other topics is bad for his health.

"Losing his ----"

It's all he has to get attention.

just look at his unending temper tantrum

Yes, yes... your noble concern for TH is a great excuse. Not.

Hey Jeff

---- u magat ----

103

Are YOU concerned with -----------?

- -----------

#105 | Posted by eberly

I'm really sorry to hear that, Bev.

Perhaps you should consult with Lee... he has a side hustle as an Amateur Gynecologist.

It doesn't pay much, but he seems to really like the werk!

"We're Entering a World Where the Rule of Law Is Turned Inside Out

Trump's vengeance-minded administration will have no blunter instrument than a corrupted Department of Justice."

newrepublic.com

106

so...no. what I figured.

106

so...no. what I figured.

It was a 9-0 ruling, moron.

#97 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-12-02 04:43 PM | Reply | Flag

Not the ruling for immunity you liar.

Amateur Gynecologist

Aren't we all?

There's something I like about Gynecology but I can't quite put my finger on it.

" Not the ruling for immunity you liar.

#110 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2024-12-02 05:44 PM | FLAG: "

I was talking about Colorado trying to remove Trump from the ballot.

They can't read section 3 of the 14th amendment either.

It's pretty plain language. Even et als only disagreement was WHO was supposed to enforce it.

#113. It was a 9-0 decision. And it was that was because Trump has never been charg d with, much less convicted of sedition.

Because no one could figure out who should charge him.

And Merrick Garland didn't want to appear political so he sat on it.

Biden's worst decision was to appoint Garland to AG. The guy did ---- all.

Yep.

The Biden administration was weak.

He was found to have participated in An insurrection. Something the SC did not refute

Trump, along with Republican politicians, incited the insurrection.

The only people who won't accept the truth are Deplorable Trumping MAGAts.

" He was found to have participated in An insurrection. Something the SC did not refute

#118 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2024-12-02 06:50 PM | FLAG: "

Not by a jury of his peers. Hence the 9-0 decision.

Alexandrite,

If you want the AG to be the president's personal henchman it's hard to find someone better to fill that role than Garland. Maybe Eric Holder. That's about it.

He was found to have participated in An insurrection. Something the SC did not refute

#118 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2024-12-02 06:50 PM

Now he's going to be your chief law enforcement officer. Stay strong.

113. It was a 9-0 decision. And it was that was because Trump has never been charg d with, much less convicted of sedition.

Posted by BellRinger at 2024-12-02 06:36 PM | Reply

You lie like a rug. One does not have to be charged much less convicted of an insurrection to be banned from holding public office. The Supreme Court just said that Colorado had no standing to remove Trump from the ballots. That's all that 9-0 decision meant full stop.

So, apparently, this Patel guy was an undersecretary for counterterrorism in the 1st ------- administration.

We were sending in our navy seals to rescue a hostage in Niger.

When the seals were in the air, Patel was asked if we had approval from Niger to enter their airspace, he said yes (it was his job to find out).

Just before the seals were to cross the border, the NSA got wind that we didn't have authorization. Patel out and out lied.

When called on it, he basically said WGAF no one died.

This is the guy ------- is putting in charge of the FBI

"(Carter Page) was regarded as an asset by the CIA. "

And worthy of surveillance.

Just use the proper barometer: if he had a (D) after the name, and the FBI refused to surveil him, would your head have exploded?

Magic 8-ball says YES.

BTW ------- replacing Christopher Wray is a huge constitutional issue. Following Watergate many measures were taken to make them independent of the WH.

------- firing the guy HE put in there to put a political hack in there is a huge constitutional issue.

JEff- I want the AG to go after ALL the insurrectionists. That included Trump.

@#125 ... BTW ------- replacing Christopher Wray is a huge constitutional issue. ..

GOP Senator Defends Wray as Trump Seeks Loyalist to Head FBI
www.bnnbloomberg.ca

...

Trump chose Wray to lead the FBI in 2017, calling him "impeccably qualified."

...

@#127

fwiw, here is more from that article...

... A Republican senator said Federal Bureau of Investigation Director Chris Wray is unobjectionable, though Donald Trump's pick to head the FBI will get the "benefit of the doubt" if he's formally nominated.

Kash Patel, a prominent critic of the FBI's investigation into whether Trump's 2016 campaign conspired with Russia to interfere in that year's presidential election, is Trump's choice for the agency, the president-elect said. If confirmed by the US Senate, Patel would replace Wray, a Trump appointee who still has years left in his term.

"It doesn't surprise me that he will pick people that he believes are very loyal to himself," but Trump also "picked a very good man" in Wray, Senator Mike Rounds, a Republican from South Dakota, said Sunday on ABC's This Week.

"Normally these are for a 10-year term," Rounds said. "We'll see what his process is and whether he actually makes that nomination." ...

[emphasis mine]

" Just use the proper barometer: if he had a (D) after the name, and the FBI refused to surveil him, would your head have exploded?

Magic 8-ball says YES.
#124 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2024-12-02 07:16 PM | REPLY | FLAG

So, you fully support an unlawfully obtained FISA warrant to spy on him because (D)?

That's on point for you.

" The Supreme Court just said that Colorado had no standing to remove Trump from the ballots"

Correct.

" BTW ------- replacing Christopher Wray is a huge constitutional issue. Following Watergate many measures were taken to make them independent of the WH"

I don't think it is. The 10-year term was established in 1976 as a term limit after 36 years of Hoover running the FBI.

It's part of the Executive branch and the FBi director serves at the pleasure of the duly elected president.

So, you fully support an unlawfully obtained FISA warrant to spy on him because (D)

No, I fully support the fact it's stupid to believe we shouldn't surveil the guy, regardless of whatever letter pops up after the name.

Meanwhile, had they NOT surveilled and should have, you'd be excoriating every (D) you could find.

Again: only a moron, including those on the FISA court, could believe a American recruited as a Russian Asset shouldn't be surveilled.

Are you a moron?

@#129 ... So, you fully support an unlawfully obtained FISA warrant to spy on him because (D)? ...

Statement of Michael E. Horowitz, Inspector General, U.S. Department of Justice before the U.S. Senate Committee on the Judiciary concerning "Examining the Inspector General's First Report on Justice Department and FBI Actions in Advance of the 2016 Presidential Election"
oig.justice.gov

... Our review also included a fact-based, detailed assessment of certain specific investigative and prosecutorial decisions that were the subject of controversy. It was necessary to select particular investigative decisions for focused attention because it would not have been possible to recreate and analyze every decision made in a year-long investigation. In examining the decisions we selected for review, the question we considered was not whether a particular decision was the ideal or most effective choice, but rather, whether the documentary and testimonial evidence indicated that the decision was based on improper considerations, including political bias. This approach is consistent with the OIG's handling of such questions in past reviews with respect to assessing discretionary judgment calls, and recognizes and respects the institutional oversight role of the OIG. Our report provides a comprehensive assessment of these decisions and of the Midyear investigation, and details the factual evidence, so that the public, Congress, and other stakeholders can conduct their own assessment of them.

Within this framework, as to the specific investigative and prosecutorial decisions we reviewed, we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that improper considerations, including political bias, directly affected those specific investigative decisions, in part because the decisions were made by the larger Midyear team or the prosecutors. ...

[emphasis mine]

@#132 ... No, I fully support the fact it's stupid to believe we shouldn't surveil the guy, regardless of whatever letter pops up after the name. ...

And, apparently the FBI has a similar view, as noted in the report (btw, often cited by the current alias your are responding to), that I note in #133.

Lamplighter,

What you printed does not address the Page FISA warrants.

" 132 | POSTED BY DANFORTH AT 2024-12-02 08:12 PM | FLAG: "

Your shoulders must be exhausted moving those goalposts.

To quote on of your favorite people, let's circle back. Is it okay for the FBI to unlawfully obtain a FISA surveillance warrant? Because that is what happened.

" BTW ------- replacing Christopher Wray is a huge constitutional issue. Following Watergate many measures were taken to make them independent of the WH"

I don't think it is. The 10-year term was established in 1976 as a term limit after 36 years of Hoover running the FBI.

It's part of the Executive branch and the FBi director serves at the pleasure of the duly elected president.

#131 | Posted by BellRinger

Is there absolutely ANYTHING you won't defend from this fascist regime?

Let me answer that, no.

The DoJ SHOULD be and was meant to be (post Watergate) to be independent from the WH BECAUSE it is supposed to investigate crimes in the WH.

Firing Wray for no ------- reason is the epitome of stepping on that separation.

Even a blind morally bankrupt ------- idiot like you should recognize that. but you're a ------- corrupt piece of ----. so there you have it.

let's circle back. Is it okay for the FBI to unlawfully obtain a FISA surveillance warrant? Because that is what happened.

#136 | Posted by BellRinger

let's circle back further. Is it ok for a presidential candidate to select a russian asset as their campaign manager? Because that's what happened.

Is that something the FBI should ignore?

"Is it okay for the FBI to unlawfully obtain a FISA surveillance warrant?"

Being this is jeff, we need to fact check everything.
Do you have a legitimate source for this claim? there were 4 btw and 2 were later deemed invalid.

As far as I can see only a magat hack claims any were obtained unlawfully

@#135 ... What you printed does not address the Page FISA warrants. ...

OK, then this...

Statement of Michael E. Horowitz Inspector General, U.S. Department of Justice before the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Appropriations Subcommittee on Crime and Federal Government Surveillance concerning "Fixing FISA: How a Law Designed to Protect Americans Has Been Weaponized Against Them"
oig.justice.gov

... In December 2019, the DOJ OIG released our review of certain actions by the FBI and the Department during an FBI investigation, known as "Crossfire Hurricane," into whether individuals associated with the Donald J. Trump for President Campaign were coordinating, wittingly or unwittingly, with the Russian government's efforts to interfere in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Among other issues, our review assessed four applications filed with the FISC in 2016 and 2017 to conduct FISA surveillance targeting Carter Page, who had been a Trump campaign official prior to the FISA surveillance.

The applications to surveil Carter Page were sought pursuant to Title I of FISA, which requires the Department to file an application with the FISC to authorize the electronic surveillance of a telephone number, email account, or other "facility." In its application, the government must show probable cause to believe that the proposed target is a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power. ...

--- and ---

DOJ Says Two Wiretap Warrants Against Former Trump Aide Carter Page Are Invalid (2020)
www.forbes.com

... The Justice Department said two of the four wiretap warrants used by the FBI against former Trump campaign aide Carter Page are invalid, according to a FISA Court order declassified on Thursday, meaning the agency is conceding that the FBI's surveillance of the Trump aide should have ended sooner, or after the first two warrants expired. ...

The Justice Department determined that those errors rendered two of the renewal applications invalid because there was "insufficient predication to establish probable cause." ...

While the Inspector General report found that the FBI submitted incomplete or incorrect information for Page's wiretap application, it also said the FBI was justified in opening up the Russia investigation in the first place. ...

@#140

Should the FBI continue such behavior?

Or should it continue to institute the procedural changes that IG Horowitz stated?

Apologies: The first line in #132 should be in quotes.

@#131 ... The 10-year term was established in 1976 as a term limit after 36 years of Hoover running the FBI. ...

Also, a 10-year term was chosen to transcend the politics of changing Presidents.

Trying to isolate the FBI from the whims of the current President.

In the words of Pres-elect Trump...

(from #127)....

Trump chose Wray to lead the FBI in 2017, calling him "impeccably qualified."

" The DoJ SHOULD be and was meant to be (post Watergate) to be independent from the WH BECAUSE it is supposed to investigate crimes in the WH."

Tell that to Eric "Obama's wingman" Holder that.

Did Patel take part in planning the-------------------'s insurrection?

" Is that something the FBI should ignore?

#138 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2024-12-02 08:24 PM | FLAG: "

No. It doesn't give the FBI carts Blanche to do whatever it wants though. Checks are in place and procedures have to be followed.

@#145 ... Did Patel take part in planning the-------------------'s insurrection? ...

That is relevant... how?

" " The DoJ SHOULD be and was meant to be (post Watergate) to be independent from the WH BECAUSE it is supposed to investigate crimes in the WH."

If that was the case then the president's power to nominate candidates to fill those roles would have been taken away. That didn't happen because it would have been unconstitutional.

The check is the advise and consent role of the Senate and impeachment and removal if conduct raises to a level of corruption that warrants the impeachment process.

That is relevant... how?

That would make him a conspirator.

@#1444 ... Tell that to Eric "Obama's wingman" Holder that. ...

And to that deflection....

Eric Holder, once Obama's wingman,' now calling out Barr for loyalty to Trump (2019)
www.foxnews.com

... Eric Holder, who headed the U.S. Justice Department under former President Barack Obama, penned a column late Wednesday in which he calls Attorney General William Barr an unfit successor due to "nakedly partisan" actions and loyalty to President Trump. ...

So... fmr-AG Barr seems to be the type of person Pres-elect Trump wants to serve him.

(and do notice that I say, "serve him" and not "serve the Country.")

What else yer got?