Water wasn't working in the fire hydrants, a perfect metaphor for Gavin Newsom's California.

It really feels like its all for show.

Like Maui, expect a land grab by the billionaire class.
#3 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

I realize you might not know much about CA, but Pacific Palisades is the billionaire class.

Biden's fault. He's had 4 years to get them some rakes.
#5 | POSTED BY REDIAL

How about water in the fire hydrants? Too much to ask for a government taking ~10% sales tax, and probably 12% State income tax?

Incredible failure here.

No it's not. It's never too late to bitch about your situation.
read the posts on this place.
#11 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I know right? Place wouldn't exist if we couldn't bitch, but we can only bitch about certain things.

Cali is a city in Columbia.
~ DonnerBot

You really need to get out more.

Did you know people cal SFO - The City!

Just when you couldn't imagine a more perfect metaphor California says "hold my beer"

COUNTLESS reports of mass fire coverage cancellations by insurance companies just WEEKS before the Los Angeles fires

California government given their mismanagement of the insurance problems in the state and explaining that fire coverage for homes was just cancelled after people contributed for DECADES

Per @RealJamesWoods, said his neighborhood had their coverage mass cancelled recently.

Wow

we be bitchin for the next four years.

If you're from Cali and voted Democrat, you deserve your home to be burnt to the ground.

Is that what you're saying?

LOL righties are suddenly shocked by the effects of a profit at all costs mentality.
Y'all are like children. Short bus children.
#36 | Posted by jpw

You don't even understand the issue.

I really do not understand the point he is attempting to make here.
#33 | Posted by Alexandrite

Figures you can't keep a thought in that pea brain.

Posters are claiming billionaires were going to move in like after Hawaiian fire.

Keep up.

what's the significance of the net worth of the residents in this fire?
#14 | Posted by eberly

You too?
It's even in the ------- post.
I swear the DR posters are lagging

Like Maui, expect a land grab by the billionaire class.
#3 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

Yes. Removing fuel is usually done by burning it. Tough call picking a neighbourhood to burn down on purpose to protect the next one.

Where did the fire start DialAgain? Homelessness, there's all sorts of videos of homeless people in LA lighting fires to keep warm. It started in the hills behind Palisades, in a trail littered with homeless people.

Where did the $24Billion for homeless go? No one know, and no one even brings up there NO ------- WATER, or Firefighters.

California is facing cascading failuresd.

Can you imagine if this Palm Beach Florida and there was no water in their hydrants?

Can you picture what the Lumpers and the media would be doing to DeSantis right now?

Next up, flood season!

#50 | POSTED BY LEE_THE_AGENT

This is what happens when you teardown dam dams

CA is lacking fire fighters now ...

In testimony to congress, Adam Carolla applied to be an LA firefighter, and was told he had to wait 7 years because he wasn't black, hispanic, or female.

I notice none of the morons are actually addressing the failures I am pointing out.

You guys got your little----------- going here, so just put your heads in the sand and save us the trouble, delete your accounts.

All 3 of the fires that started in Ventura County btwn yesterday and today were almost immediately knocked down.
Viewline fire just now - in less than an hour it was stopped.
Also immediately had 2 tankers and 2 helicopters on it.

Wonder why can't LA City couldn't handle the situation?

While these horrible fires are burning, we want to rag on the entire state of California, its representatives, and its people?
No. But it's going to happen. We politicize the crap out of everything.
#148 | POSTED BY EBERLY

I am not ragging on the people, just the politicians that made insanely crazy priority decisions, knowing full well there will be no repercussions for their stupidity.

And the continued insurance problems in CA that are going to intensify? Expect that to be blamed on CA government.

They put the cap on it.

You can't NOT prevent fires, then complain insurance is too damn high.

Is there a single poster from CA on this site who doesn't use the term "red state --------"?

I have never used it.

You're stopping at the pols? Not ragging on the people who voted for them?

Feel free to point out where I have ever done that?

Because that's how it goes with blame aimed at red states here

The only people I rag on in the US are people from Florida, and not because of disasters.

Do the Republicans have to be in control of California in order to have a say in the budget?

Yes. In fact, CA is so Democrat, Republicans can't even submit ideas.

-They put the cap on it.
Meaning?
#159 | POSTED BY EBERLY

A price cap? If you don't understand the states interference in the home insurance market, its long and drawn out.

From home insurance, Electricity, Gas the State is driving everything into the ground.

The State wouldn't allow the insurance companies to charge what they felt was needed to keep the homes insured, so they cancelled them.

-So, your current alias seems to be saying that the GOP in California cannot even submit a bill in the California legislature?
Can they get it out of committee?
#183 | POSTED BY EBERLY

they don't run the committees, much like the Federal level when one party is in charge.

Here's the kicker, CA government is backstopping as an insurer of last resort, and insurance for the insurance companies via FAIR

The claim right now is $52b in losses thus far. FAIR has a surplus of $200mm and only $2.5b in reinsurance.

All of this will have to be covered by State TAX revenues.

Last night in the Los Angeles DWP couldn't turn the fire hydrants on, and even with downed live wires, it didn't turn the power lines off.

According to the @latimes , Bass's pick for manager of the DWP is paid $750,000/yr

Wow nice gig.

And your current alias says that, why?
#197 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Its obvious. But the point isn't this is it, its really your avoidance to agree that the State of CA is run by Democrats, and all your deflections haven't proven otherwise.

We do controlled burns here as well.

I make the argument that since the last reservoir was constructed (1979)

Its worse than that, 8yrs ago State voted to build more reservoirs, none have been built but money has been allocated.

Lets not forget the HSR, Billions upon Billions, and no track laid.

Then why is rsty saying otherwise?

Because its like saying CA does one controlled burn, ergo we do controlled burns.

Its not like they don't happen, they do, but they aren't happening at the rate or size needed because of the process.

For instance we did have a controlled burn at the county park, but it didn't burn enough fuel and this past summer it all went up anyway. Threatening homes and properties near the county park. Its really become a problem in the Sierras too.

Even in Canada, as I pointed out to DialAgain, the same rules the SC created here, are happening in Canada and thats why they had such a huge firestorm.

Yes.
#222 | POSTED BY REDIAL

See what I mean Eberly, this gives them cover to say "Yes we do" ....

He can't even reply to the link which clearly states Canadian firestorm was caused by lack of fuel control due to legislation changes.

The cause is simple. Could happen to anyone anywhere. And often has in a disaster of this magnitude.
- donnerbot

Planning and Engineering.

We do this for building airplanes.

Let's say you build on the edge of a place that has highly flammable foliage.

Do you plan on a wild fire?

Why not use fire boats to augment the system, like they did in the 1906 earthquake in SFO?

See it's possible to engineer solutions.

See it's not about looking at things as a D or R, it's is this a case of government mismanagement, it is.

And I believe the other side complaining about it is the only way it changes.

So calling people unintelligent for pointing out mismanagement would indicate a lack of intelligence about what it takes to get things done and managed correctly.

-But it's not feasible economically.

Adding pipes, and connectors that run from the sea to the gray water system, so the FireBoats can jack in is expensive?

LA spends $750,000 a year on the head of the DPW salary. When did price ever mean anything?

Lets be clear on what a FireBoat is, NYC has a couple of them they are used for this purpose, they pump 50,000 gallons a minute each.

Its a cheap solution, but my guess is some smart civil engineer can come up with something even cheaper.

Struck a nerve did I?

No, Eberly did, you could raise my heart rate. You're to stupid to understand the rest of my diatribe.

I'm not blaming liberalism or progressiveism for any of this.

I am blaming the people in charge from top to damn near leaf node.

It's telling the only objection with #284 is my use of the word 'windy'. Just substitute 'windy' with 'high winds and above' and we should be good.
#291 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

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Regardless, its not like SantaAna's are new. The bringing up the wind is just another excuse, which appears to be all these people have is excuses for the release of 5years of CO2.

They weren't prepared, they didn't shut of power or gas. OrangeCounty had the same number of fires, and winds and put them out successfully.

Like a giant faucet, for example.
#277 | POSTED BY REDIAL

Have you ever seen a fire boat?

You think building a water system for wildfires would be expensive ....

Biden: I'm announcing that the federal government will cover 100% of the cost for 180 days. This is going to pay for things like debris and hazard removal, temporary shelters, first responders salaries, and all necessary measures to protect life and property.

But they still need republicans support for big ticket fiscal items requiring tax increases.

Good God you're just so stupid. You'll destroy a lot of fire fighting equipment if you use sea water to fight these fires. Salt water is highly corrosive to the equipment. You have no clue do you??
#299 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

Three things to reply to the ignorant.

1. Design for salt water.
2. Flush fresh water through it after use, Sailors have been doing this for decades.
3.Whats cheaper? $52Billion in insurance the State is on the hook for or new fire engine pumps?

Your ability to think problems through is incredibly short sighted.

5Years of CO2 was calculated to have been released by just the palisades fire.

Whats that cost to the global climate financing? 10 fire engine pumps, seems like a good trade off.

But you aren't really interested in preventing Climate change really are you, you just can't accept the mismanagement that happened?

immigrant has all the answers folks. hes a genius!

I just read about US history, and the 1906 earthquake. Someone else solved the problem.

I suppose people here in the US don't read their own history much.

Using fireboats to put out these raging wildfires is akin to pissing in a raging bonfire hoping to put it out. Just sayin
#319 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

They did it in 1906. Two boats, 100,000 gl/min isn't "pissing in a bonfire"

Again you got nothing, just saying

If you dump tons of salt water on the fires nothing will grow in california for decades.

Costal plants have adapted to levels of salt, all the invasive species will not be able to grow for about two years.

Win Win

What else do you have? Tell me you have more.

Do Americans even have science and history anymore?

Cuz I am not seeing it.

Not liberalism.

#326 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Depends ... did liberalism support HSR, Illegal Immigration over say, citizen safety?

Given crime, homelessness, and drug use, on top of fire negligence, are these liberal policies?

OR are they the leadership?

Can you characterize difference?

People here do they support all the crime, homelessness, and drug use? Is the fire negligence just exposure of policies that Liberalism doesn't care about citizens?

Hows the distinction between say SMELT and farmers in regards to water?

How about the LA Mayor going to Ghana inaguration, vs going to the US inaguration?

Is that Liberalsm or leadership, how do you distinguish?

Is CAPing home Insurance policies Liberalism?

Is ignoring why there are devastating wildfires ONLY in CA and Canada Liberalism or leadership?

Is Eberly saying all the Lumpers here defending leadership aren't really defending Liberalism?

Seems like it, but I am sure Eberly can discern for me the difference?

Is the following leadership or liberalism

"Am I able to carry your husband out of a fire? He got himself in the wrong place."
~ LAFD head of DEI.

I'm saying they are defending liberalism but NOT the leadership.

Then they deserve to be hung from the cross Jesus was.

#338 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Again, do you guys really know your own history?

Who closed mental health hospitals in California? Three guesses, it wasn't Reagan

jesus was hung?

#349 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

He was.

How big is He hung?? Just curious.

#355 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

Like a FireBoat

Don't take their security blanket from them.

My bad.

let the looting begin...

BTW Jesus was never hung from a cross. He was crucified. BIG DIFFERENCE. Just sayin
#359 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

Who says? Did you see it? Where is the evidence?

Ronald Reagan started the fires.

The Lumbers and MAGAts love that man. I don't really understand reading my books, didn't understand his Iran actions while Carter was President.

Seems odd. But oh well.

Can't wait to blame tornadoes, tropical storms and earthquakes on JFK and declare all abortion restrictions in Texas as "bi partisan"

He was dating stormy women after all.

BTW Nobody is hung during capital punishment. They are hanged. Just FYI

WTF is wrong with the English language.

Like a FireBoat
#356 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT AT 2025-01-09 09:37 PM | FLAG:

Tough crowd, thought this would get a FF.

Here's more CA craziness.

from your link to the splinter cult site which is in no way representative of common Christian thought

Not scientific at all whats the evidence.

Just sayin.

King James Bible
The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

New King James Version
The God of our fathers raised up Jesus whom you murdered by hanging on a tree.

Weird.

The LAFD is paying a woman $399,000 a year to lead its DEI bureau, but they can't test hydrants because they lack the resources.

Leadership or Lumpers?

The Lumbers
Wood you be more specific please?
#373 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE A

Sure, please get your lumber out of Corky's ass.