Friday, April 11, 2025

Trump Is Begging China to Make a Deal Over Tariffs

Edith Olmsted: Donald Trump's administration has been begging for a call from Chinese President Xi Jinping ...

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CHINA STRIKES BACK: China increases its retaliatory tariffs on US imports to 125%, following Trump's tariff increase to 145%. Xi Jinping says China is "not afraid" in new public comments.

-- MeidasTouch (@meidastouch.com) April 11, 2025 at 10:16 AM

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#1 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-04-11 05:12 PM

The 300 lb sack of---------- will have to break out the kneepads he put to such good use in Helsinki.

#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-11 06:51 PM

Japan, south Korea, Vietnam and the EU are working with China to coordinate their responses to the tariffs.
Trump just handed global economic leadership to Xi who is sitting on about a trillion dollars of t bills
Throw in the extra costs of the tariff tax on consumers with the global boycott of American goods and services and we can see how he bankrupted his own casino.

#3 | Posted by northguy3 at 2025-04-11 07:55 PM

I hope Xi flips him off on TV.

#4 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-04-11 09:44 PM

Good for China.

Make the dump beg.

#5 | Posted by bat4255 at 2025-04-11 09:48 PM

Republicans have midterm elections coming. Xi does not.

#6 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2025-04-11 09:52 PM

In the coming months, as the ------- economic disaster unfolds and a massive recession hits, expect to start hearing a great deal of stories from rightwing propaganda machines about how the head of the Fed is the problem and he needs to be replaced.

That is the point our failed democracy becomes a true banana republic, where the President controls the central bank for political (and corrupt) purposes.

That is when the dollar will go poof and true destruction will play out.

Remember, the fed controls interest rates, lowering rates increases prices, raising rates reduces prices. ------- will want lower rates to stimulate the economy.

Problem is the economy won't be able to be stimulated, because the supply chains are in the process of being broken.

So all the lower rates will do is blast inflation through the roof and depression here we come.

We literally may have but one man between us and the apocalypse.

THAT IS WHY ------- IS TAKING AIM AT THE HEADS OF INDEPENDANT AGENCIES, SO HE CAN GET THE SCALP HE REALLY WANTS AND NEEDS.

Thanks magat scum.

#7 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-04-11 10:12 PM

Trump just handed global economic leadership to Xi who is sitting on about a trillion dollars of t bills

Don't rule this out as being the point of it all.

Trump is working for anybody but the US populace.

We knew that from the beginning. Well, some of us.

#8 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-12 03:43 AM

You people are stupid.

Trump isnt begging for anything. We hold all the cards, as we have in the U.S. for some time. We just had spineless liberals who cater to the world instead of their own nation.

It's 2025, we dont do that "hate America" thing anymore progressives.

#9 | Posted by boaz at 2025-04-12 07:01 AM

Boaz is correct.

China needs us way more than we need them. They have to feed their population and they need someone to buy the things they make. Without the US consumer economy their economy would implode.

#10 | Posted by THEBULL at 2025-04-12 07:29 AM

Xi and Putin repeatedly clown the brain dead orange turd.

#11 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-12 07:33 AM

#9 - #10 - You two just keep on jerking each other off talking about women's feet and whatnot, while pretending you're not holding another man's junk.

#12 | Posted by YAV at 2025-04-12 07:39 AM

Boaz what will happen if china sells some of its3/4 trillion dollars in our bonds that they hold?

#13 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-04-12 07:40 AM

#13 - with the dollar weak as it is, and people swapping US dollars for Swiss Franks? With China already in full divest the US mode and reaching agreements with other nations? I'm not happy about my retirement fund right now, however if taking a hit now results in trump being neutralized for long term benefit, I'm all in. Let's hope, at the least, we get that in the midterms. If we really get lucky the GOP will finally find a spine and neutralize trump tout suite.

#14 | Posted by YAV at 2025-04-12 07:45 AM

Krasnov Fats is a global laughingstock.

bsky.app

#15 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-12 08:05 AM

China has been developing alternative sources for uda agriculture products. Brazil has been a big winner in this regards.

No doubt they will continue with earnest intention.

We are not the only source goods and the world is out to prove it due to our hubris.

It's going to be a bumpy ride.

#16 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-04-12 08:34 AM

www.atlanticcouncil.org

China has been preparing for this conflict for a long time, including by diversifying its trade away from the West. Chinese exports to the United States account for 14.7 percent of China's total in 2024, down from 19.2 percent in 2018, while overseas shipments to Southeast Asian and Belt-and-Road countries have grown, according to Beijing.

"China will never accept this. If the US insists on its own way, China will fight to the end."

Almost exactly one year ago, in discussions I had in Beijing on the prospect of a US-China trade war under a future US president, officials repeatedly mentioned a secret weapon they held ready to wield: the ability of China and its people to "eat bitterness" or chiku.

What does that mean? Chiku is regularly raised by Chinese to describe their ability to endure hardships during difficult times, including in service of a supposed greater national goal.

Beijing too has strategically lessened its reliance on important commodities from the United States, such as soybeans, the majority of which are now bought from Brazil, and it has pushed for greater food self-reliance. "We have been engaged in a trade war with the US for eight years and have accumulated rich experience in this struggle,"

With Beijing digging in, the question for Washington becomes: How much bitterness are Americans prepared to swallow in return?


Ruh-roh, me boys!

#17 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2025-04-12 09:42 AM

Doe 174 capitulates again.

Trump Exempts Phones, Computers From Tariffs

www.bloomberg.com

#18 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-12 10:09 AM

We'll eventually exempt anything made in China from the Chinese tariffs.

But we'll hold a firm line on the islands with penguins.

You hear that penguins? We have all the cards!!

#19 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2025-04-12 10:13 AM

Why won't he call?

bsky.app

#20 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-04-12 10:35 AM

Trump isnt begging for anything. We hold all the cards, as we have in the U.S. for some time.
#9 | Posted by boaz

If we hold all the cards,
Then why did Trump cave?
You're a fool.

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-12 11:14 AM

"China needs us way more than we need them."

It's clear your only concept of interpersonal relations is being the bully or being the victim.

Who hurt you?

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-12 11:17 AM

We hold all the cards,

Could boaz be any more of a stupid f^%* with a childish view of the world?

#23 | Posted by jpw at 2025-04-12 12:14 PM

What needs to be investigated is where this notion of "no consequences for disrespect" comes from.

Some people have gotten so much privilege basic courtesy has become completely foreign to them.

They expect to insult and abuse with impunity. Their own view of the world keeps them from seeing the world as it is.

But one thing for sure. The world will continue with or without you.

#24 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-04-12 12:23 PM

Some people have gotten so much privilege basic courtesy has become completely foreign to them.

There's a term for this, it's called "White privileged".

#25 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-12 12:32 PM

"We hold all the cards, as we have in the U.S. for some time."

Great! What "cards"?

What exactly do we produce and trade with China that China cannot do without for long periods of time? If they need chips and more tech manufacturing they will just take Taiwan.

And the Chinese people are used to suffering. They could easily outlast us. Americans are spoiled rotten. Hundreds of millions of Chinese could die in a trade war and they would still out number us.

When you feebly whack at a bee hive all you do is piss off the bees.

#26 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-12 12:58 PM

We hold all the cards

With Trump it's more like 52 pickup.

Americans will be forced to pick up the pieces of their shattered lives.

#27 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-12 01:07 PM

Americans may not buy as much made in China crap? The absolute horror. How will their shattered lives ever recover?

#28 | Posted by THEBULL at 2025-04-12 02:12 PM

Re 28

China manufactures a wide range of goods that the US imports, including electronics, machinery, vehicles, and textiles.

Specifically, the US imports a significant amount of electrical machinery and TV parts, nuclear reactor parts, and toys and games from China. China also supplies the US with textiles, furniture, bedding, and other miscellaneous manufactured items.

Just a bunch of useless crap. We don't need any of it!

Only the weak will fail.

#29 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-12 02:28 PM

So much for 'The Art of the Deal'...

OCU

#30 | Posted by OCUser at 2025-04-12 02:36 PM

The Art of the Squeal.

#31 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-12 02:38 PM

Massive cave in - and we got nothing from China. What a master negotiator.

I thought Russia was bad - that whole Witkoff, hand on his heart, "I looked into Putin's eyes and saw his soul" redux was sickening.

Now Witkoff's off to negotiate with Iran. Witkoff that just learned how to spell "nuclear."

What could go wrong?

#32 | Posted by YAV at 2025-04-12 02:42 PM

"What a master negotiator."

He was baiting them.

#33 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-12 02:47 PM

"We hold all the cards"

Yeah, all Jokers.

#34 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-12 02:48 PM

Donny the flip flop king?
Nah,co-president musk taking over.

#35 | Posted by northguy3 at 2025-04-12 03:13 PM

@#32 ... Massive cave in - and we got nothing from China. What a master negotiator. ...

According to senior advisors of Pres Trump, this is the plan he has had all along.

#36 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-12 03:32 PM

#34: Donny the flip flop king?

No, Trumpf was working the French Fries station: mimimefoinfos.com

#37 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-04-12 03:39 PM

#9 | Posted by boaz

The rest of the world can say "meh" and create their own spheres of trade with each other, you bobolyne

Trump's too unpredictable for domestic and foreign markets. He'll babble one stupid thing today and take it back tomorrow. No one can trust him.

Mark my words: Trump will go down as one of the most reviled public figures in American history.

#38 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-04-12 05:01 PM

On the issue of tariffs, Pres "Spine of Steel" Trump did not just back down, he retreated.

Yeah, an embarrassing retreat.



#39 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-12 06:29 PM

Yeah, an embarrassing retreat.

"Know when to walk away, know when to run."

~Kenny Rogers

#40 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-04-12 07:34 PM

@#40 ... "Know when to walk away, know when to run." ...

Yeah, the reaction of the bond market seems to be what caused Pres trump to run.


When both stock prices and bond prices drop, there is a problem.


#41 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-12 07:47 PM

China factory orders are being cancelled unless the manufacturers eat the tariffs - and this is coming on top of Europe already being in a recession and their domestic market imploding. Unemployment for the new crop of college graduates is over 25% and the retirement scheme is already going bankrupt as a result of the one child policy and the resulting screwed up demographics. TEMU and Shein have been effectively killed. The Yuan continues to weaken - which just cuts their own throat given their external debt is priced in dollars - and their under $1T in US treasuries are no longer a weapon given our debt is now over $36T.

maritime-executive.com

Once again, you -------- are totally wrong.

#42 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-12 08:07 PM

@#42 ... Once again, you -------- are totally wrong. ...

So, an ad hominem attack to try to substantiatre your current alias' position?

So lame.

From the article your current alias cites in #42...

... American importers are beginning to delay or cancel orders in China due to the White House's new 145 percent tariff on Chinese goods - and some U.S. firms may even abandon import cargo on the dock because they can't afford to pay the extra duties, though the White House has promised an exemption for goods already in transit.

Even before the latest hike, Chinese manufacturers faced a tariff of 20 percent from earlier White House actions. Many have already discounted their goods to the lowest profitable price in order to offset the effects. "It is a deal breaker," toy factory owner Chen Qingxin told the Wall Street Journal. "No room for doing business anymore, for both sides."

Given the effective doubling of their wholesale costs, American retailers are already beginning to cancel or defer orders. E-commerce giant Amazon began to revoke orders this week, according to Bloomberg, and has already canceled shipments of summer goods like air conditioners, beach chairs and scooters. ...



Maybe this is a reason why Pres trump retreated from his "Spine of Steel" tariffs stance?




#43 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-04-12 08:39 PM

"Many have already discounted their goods to the lowest profitable price in order to offset the effects.
#43 | Posted by LampLighter"

But wait - you ------- liberals were just saying how US consumers are the ones that pay for the tariffs. In that case, why are the manufacturers and middle men cutting prices?

That is the problem with you liberal --------- - your own links debunk your talking points but you are too stupid to realize it.

#44 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-12 11:13 PM

"Many have already discounted their goods to the lowest profitable price in order to offset the effects.
#43 | Posted by LampLighter"

But wait - you ------- liberals were just saying how US consumers are the ones that pay for the tariffs. In that case, why are the manufacturers and middle men cutting prices?

That is the problem with you liberal --------- - your own links debunk your talking points but you are too stupid to realize it.

#45 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-12 11:13 PM

But wait - you (expletive removed) liberals were just saying how US consumers are the ones that pay for the tariffs. In that case, why are the manufacturers and middle men cutting prices?

#44 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-12 11:13 PM

Because that's the only way that their products will remain competitive after the consumer is forced to cover the tariffs. Also, the tariffs are based on the invoice price, not retail, so lowering the price charged to the importer will lower the amount of the tariff.

OCU

#46 | Posted by OCUser at 2025-04-13 12:54 AM

But wait - you (expletive removed) liberals were just saying how US consumers are the ones that pay for the tariffs. In that case, why are the manufacturers and middle men cutting prices?

#44 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-12 11:13 PM

Because that's the only way that their products will remain competitive after the consumer is forced to cover the tariffs. Also, the tariffs are based on the invoice price, not retail, so lowering the price charged to the importer will lower the amount of the tariff.

OCU

#47 | Posted by OCUser at 2025-04-13 12:55 AM

But wait - you (expletive removed) liberals were just saying how US consumers are the ones that pay for the tariffs. In that case, why are the manufacturers and middle men cutting prices?

#44 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-12 11:13 PM

Because that's the only way that their products will remain competitive after the consumer is forced to cover the tariffs. Also, the tariffs are based on the invoice price, not retail, so lowering the price charged to the importer will lower the amount of the tariff.

OCU

#48 | Posted by OCUser at 2025-04-13 12:55 AM

3rd times always a charm.

#49 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-04-13 01:09 AM

But wait - you (expletive removed) liberals were just saying how US consumers are the ones that pay for the tariffs. In that case, why are the manufacturers and middle men cutting prices?

#44 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-12 11:13 PM

Because that's the only way that their products will remain competitive after the consumer is forced to cover the tariffs. Also, the tariffs are based on the invoice price, not retail, so lowering the price charged to the importer will lower the amount of the tariff.

OCU

#50 | Posted by OCUser at 2025-04-13 01:11 AM

But wait - you (###### removed) liberals were just saying how US consumers are the ones that pay for the tariffs. In that case, why are the manufacturers and middle men cutting prices?

#44 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-12 11:13 PM

Because that's the only way that their products will remain competitive after the consumer is forced to cover the tariffs. Also, the tariffs are based on the invoice price, not retail, so lowering the price charged to the importer will lower the amount of the tariff.

OCU

#51 | Posted by OCUser at 2025-04-13 01:12 AM

Sorry about the multiple posts but the system kept insisting that my post had a problem and asked me back-up and correct the problem, but it appears that the problem was that the posts were getting accepted, just that I didn't know it.

OCU

#52 | Posted by OCUser at 2025-04-13 01:16 AM

" liberals were just saying how US consumers are the ones that pay for the tariffs."

That's because US consumers will be the ones paying the tariffs. Which are taxes.

Your stupidity doesn't somehow make tariffs NOT taxes.

Trump is trying to replace the progressive income tax, with uber-regressive tariffs.

#53 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-04-13 03:48 AM

Japan and China hold a lot of our debt. It's be a shame if they started calling it in.

#54 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-04-13 03:51 AM

The rest of the world can say "meh" and create their own spheres of trade with each other

Yea, good luck with that.

The U.S. is the biggest market out there.

The rest of the world is making pennies on the dollar. And you liberals insist that people in third world countries make first world wages, only the U.S. market pays that.

Sure, let them trade with each other. Instead of getting a forced $40 an hour from the U.S., they will get $2 an hour from other nations.

You people really are idiots.

#55 | Posted by boaz at 2025-04-13 06:43 AM

Trump seems to have *thought* he was dealing with Warner Oland.

#56 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-04-13 06:43 AM

Trump putting his weakness on display for all the world to see.
What a move!
Sheer genius!!!

#57 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-04-13 07:00 AM

#57 Sheer genius!!!

"President Dotard Trumpf was unable to recall the details of the cognitive test he took as part of his physical Friday, but he assured reporters that he got all the answers right." www.thedailybeast.com

#58 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-04-13 07:44 AM

We are going to need all the Republicans groveling alongside Trump if they are going to take our country back.

Personally, I'm finally looking at going overseas. Kinda sucks, I love my job and it's a shame to have to quit just because your country's leader hijacked Air Force One and crashed it into Wall Street.

#59 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-13 09:50 AM

"Japan and China hold a lot of our debt. It's be a shame if they started calling it in.
#54 | Posted by chuffy"

Between the 2 of them, they hold $2T. That is just 1 years worth of Biden deficits. They have no leverage here.

#60 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-13 09:59 AM

#59: i.ytimg.com

#61 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-04-13 10:00 AM

"That's because US consumers will be the ones paying the tariffs. Which are taxes.
#53 | Posted by Danforth"

The article directly refutes you --------. Here is the reality - same as I told you before - the manufacturers and middlemen will eat a vast majority of the tariffs and the rest of the orders will be cancelled because they are not competitively priced. China already has 80% order cancellation rates and goods being returned that already hit US ports.

#62 | Posted by ScottS at 2025-04-13 10:01 AM

You people are stupid.
Trump isnt begging for anything. We hold all the cards, as we have in the U.S. for some time. We just had spineless liberals who cater to the world instead of their own nation.
It's 2025, we dont do that "hate America" thing anymore progressives.
#9 | Posted by boaz at 2025-04-12 07:01 AM | Reply
Boaz is correct.
China needs us way more than we need them. They have to feed their population and they need someone to buy the things they make. Without the US consumer economy their economy would implode.
#10 | Posted by THEBULL

The devil is always in the details, which neither you nor Trump pay much attention to, emphasis mine:

When economist Justin Wolfers commented: "I just want to tip my hat to the crack team of White House economists who were able to discover"in just a few short days"that the U.S. is dependent on China for smartphones, computers and semiconductors." Dr. Soumya Rangarajan noted that "a basic medicine we use 1000x per day in the hospital, heparin, is also dependent on China, and people will die without it." As Sabrina Malhi of the Washington Post explained, about 12 million people hospitalized in the U.S. need heparin every year, and it is only one of the many medications that will be affected by Trump's tariffs on goods from China.
heathercoxrichardson.substack.com

#63 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-04-13 10:08 AM

"Dr. Soumya Rangarajan noted that "a basic medicine we use 1000x per day in the hospital, heparin, is also dependent on China, and people will die without it.""

You stupid libs really just don't get it. Those people are weak.

"ONLY THE WEAK WILL FAIL!"

Ask Boaz if you have any questions.

#64 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-13 10:14 AM

BTW, heparin is used in hospitals when patients have surgery, but it is also used after people who have had major surgery leave the hospital:

Heparin is used to prevent or treat certain blood vessel, heart, and lung conditions. Heparin is also used to prevent blood clotting during open-heart surgery, bypass surgery, kidney dialysis, and blood transfusions. It is used in low doses to prevent the formation of blood clots in certain patients, especially those who must have certain types of surgery or who must remain in bed for a long time.

www.mayoclinic.org

#65 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-04-13 10:16 AM

You stupid libs really just don't get it. Those people are weak.
"ONLY THE WEAK WILL FAIL!"
Ask Boaz if you have any questions.
#64 | Posted by snoofy

I do think part of this administrations goal is to kill off a lot of people who they consider weak, i.e., people who are sick, disabled, elderly.

#66 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-04-13 10:20 AM

Of course, Trump himself would be dead by now if science and medicine hadn't saved him, but how does Trump respond to the medical miracle that saved him? With gratitude and the desire to help others? Nah:

Trump Just Fired the Doctor Who Saved His Life

At the height of the pandemic, Trump got COVID. He was airlifted to Walter Reed Medical Center. Dr. Peter Stein approved giving Trump monoclonal antibodies. Trump recovered. He called this treatment a "miracle."

Yesterday, Trump fired Dr. Peter Stein. He also fired the people tracking Bird Flu and all kind of other diseases. If there's another pandemic, and Trump catches whatever it is, there will be no one to save him. On a more positive note, the money the government saves by doing this means that instead of 342 billion dollars, Elon Musk will soon have 342.1 billion dollars.

www.dailykos.com

#67 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-04-13 10:30 AM

Well, he better capitulate fast!

#68 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-04-13 10:36 AM

69!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#69 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-04-13 10:36 AM

Ask Boaz if you have any questions.

#64 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

I suggest you approach his property very carefully and slowly backing towards him with both hands raised.

Especially if you look a little bit tranny.

#70 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-04-13 01:03 PM

@christopherfanucci

Trump ups China tariffs to 34% then 84%
China reciprocates
Trump ups tariffs to 145%
China reciprocates
Trump admin begs Xi to call
China does nothing
Trump announces he's ready to "make a deal"
China does nothing
Trump rolls back tariffs

Trumpers: Winning!

#71 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-04-13 01:20 PM

Of course he expects to insult and abuse without consequences.

#72 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-04-13 01:27 PM

that video where he lie-ing-ly bragged "50 countries are calling me to kiss my ass!"
turned out to be a...lie! Who knew!?

#73 | Posted by e1g1 at 2025-04-13 02:54 PM

#55 | Posted by boaz at 2025-04-13 06:43 AM | Reply | Flag: Bobolyne

#74 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-04-13 03:00 PM

Trump applying the pressure, and is getting the response he wants:

Hassett: Trump Administration Is Negotiating with 130 Countries on Tariffs

The Art Of The Deal BABY : )

#75 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-04-13 03:44 PM

Amazing to think that Pelosi was ahead of her time back in the 90s:
Viral clip shows Nancy Pelosi supporting tariffs on China in 1996:

www.youtube.com

#76 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-04-13 03:47 PM

"Viral clip shows Nancy Pelosi supporting tariffs on China in 1996"

Does Nancy also say China needs exceptions to the tariffs, or is that where Trump outshines her, by giving China a pass on certain tariffs?

#77 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-04-13 03:49 PM

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