Monday, October 13, 2025

People Confused How MAGA Christians Justify Their Behavior

For many Americans, the gap between Christian teachings and MAGA politics is baffling. How can people profess faith in Jesus who preached love, mercy and care for the oppressed -- while supporting policies that punish immigrants, demonize LGBTQ people and glorify cruelty?

Posted by lamplighter at 01:20 PM | 10 COMMENTS | permalink

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... The key to understanding this apparent contradiction might lie in something called "vertical morality."

This ethical framework measures righteousness not by goodness to others, but by something more simplistic. Below, Christian advocates and former fundamentalists break down what vertical morality means and how it explains our political landscape today.

What Is Vertical Morality?

"Vertical morality teaches that authority, power, and a moral code of right and wrong, or acceptable and unacceptable, come from above' -- an external superior who designates rules, systems, and tenets that must be obeyed by those beneath," said Tia Levings, a former Christian fundamentalist and author of A Well-Trained Wife: My Escape from Christian Patriarchy. ...



#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-13 01:22 PM

@#1 ... "Vertical morality teaches that authority, power, and a moral code of right and wrong, or acceptable and unacceptable, come from above' -- an external superior who designates rules, systems, and tenets that must be obeyed by those beneath," ...

So, in other words, an unfettered fealty to Pres Trump instead of God?

#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-10-13 01:23 PM

It's not confusing at all.

There's nothing Christian about MAGA.

They wear crosses and own bibles and go to church.

But they also hate the teaching of Christ.

Love for your neighbor, compassion, community, kindness, empathy are all things MAGA opposes.

They're consumed by anger and hate.

They're fueled by ignorance and fear.

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-13 01:28 PM

I used to try and NOT quote verses of the Bible back at Christians. I found it annoying when they cherry picked quotes.

But now I find that when they cherry pick and chose a quote to support their hate and runaround of Jesus's teachings I just quote back to them what Jesus actually said (Or did not say about it)

Also a good method of response is to go to the chapter and verse they quote and read the rest of the chapter. Then ask which of the rest of the ancient commands were they also following. Which always none

Here's the thing I have come to realize.

While Christians are a powerful large group they do not "own" the Bible or Jesus or God.

And I have found that most have no clue about the other major religions of the world and what they actually believe. If they did they would soon come to the realization at some point that we are all talking about the same thing from different perspectives. And using words language to try and describe a mystery that has no words or language.

#4 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-10-13 01:40 PM

It isn't confusing at all and I've been posting the reason for a long time.

They're not trying to convince anyone else of their virtue an righteousness, they're all about convincing themselves.

They sit through services that assure them that they are righteous and good for believing in Christ so they can be complete pieces of s*&^ the rest of the time every week.

That's it. There is no contradiction in their own minds so there's no attempt at consistency or even trying to follow the teachings.

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-13 02:41 PM

Most MAGA preachers do nothing but spread hate.

#6 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-13 02:42 PM

Some of them spread hate and molest children.

#7 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-13 02:43 PM

The GOP are the

Guardians

Of

Pedophiles!

#8 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-10-13 02:44 PM

from #14 at the below link

"2 Thessalonians 2:3

A remarkable and yet often overlooked meaning behind this verse is that the "falling away" " or those that leave the faith " will be tied in with the revealing of the man of sin. In other words, these two events are related, as those who fall away from the faith will fall TOWARDS the man of sin.

Thus, it is the falling away that reveals the Antichrist, as we simply need to look at those who have fallen away from the faith and see WHO they are gravitating towards. It's not simply a falling away for the sake of leaving the faith, but a falling away FROM Jesus Christ and TOWARDS the Antichrist.

This is exactly what we've seen over the past few years with many Christians and their love affair with Trump. While Trump's vileness would have been repulsive in any other politician, strangely Christians not only embraced him, but started talking about him as if he was a man of God.

Even worse, some Christians now consider Trump as the savior of America, putting him on the same level as Jesus. But to those of us who are watching, their falling away from the faith helps us identify who the Antichrist is, as we simply need to observe WHO they are embracing instead of Jesus."

antichrist45.com

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-13 03:20 PM

Many in the cult of MAGA originally started out in the cult of Scofield.

#10 | Posted by ExpectingReign at 2025-10-13 06:16 PM

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