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It's quite predictable behavior from partisans.

When Gabby Giffords was shot, the things being said on the radio and on the internet were blamed for it.

And it was fair game at the time.

Is it still?

It's just noise after the fact anyway. It's obvious you can't get any traction from that.

-How is the current climate remotely similar to that existing when Gabbards was shot?

The violence is what's very similar.

You've decided where you think the blame lies. Trump is responsible for the violence being aimed at him. He deserves it. Charlie Kirk deserved it, I suppose....correct?

Giffords however was completely innocent. I agree she was completely innocent.

I guess if you stir up ----....don't whine when the violence is directed towards you and your staff, the press core, your cabinet, etc.

right?

-He's not at all a loathsome human being who is a known fraud, serial sexual predator, pedo, liar, adulterer ect ect ect.

So JFK had it coming as well? He was guilty of some of that....and he pissed off Cubans big time. He pissed off the military, the intelligence community, etc.

At the time, he outright was labeled a communist. Sounds pretty damn "loathsome" to me.

When did it become okay to explain such things away by hammering away at the target of such violence?

And don't say it didn't become okay but you're outright okay with it, obviously.

-Claiming anything America is doing is anywhere near what the German NAZI's were doing is dishonest.

Whoever said that isn't being expected to be taken seriously. They don't mean that.

They just want your attention.

It's not possible anybody with a room temperature IQ could make that comparison with a straight face.

-So JFK had it coming as well? He was guilty of some of that.

And come to think of it, MLK had some skeletons and really stirred it up as well.

too bad, I guess, JPW.

My take? I think Freedom of Speech affords the right not to be shot.

I'm only responding to this because of the attempts to defend the violence. Excuse it, explain it away, etc.

-Didn't the Kirk murder have to do with him not being quite Fuentes Nazi enough?

I don't know. But thanks for making my point for me.

Parsing the reasons and excuses for murdering someone like that is perhaps a clue you're just fine with violence when you don't like the victim.

Now, I don't think you're supportive of such violence, Corky, but there are plenty of folks here who are admitting they are.

Some are working furiously to walk that right rope of being okay with it but working to fool us into believing they're not.

JFK pissed off more people than Trump has. JFK got people killed. JFK banged anything with a heartbeat. He engaged in nepotism. He couldn't screw anyone in a business deal because he never did a business deal.

I only say such things because we're now acting as if that behavior is grounds for assassination.

-I've yet to see anything on this site I would consider defending the violence.

I have.

"that's to say he's a loathsome, disgusting pile of s*&^ of a man who by his very polarizing nature will inevitably incite strong emotions towards him."

Yes, like JFK.

Splintering the intelligence community, refusing to address communism like most of American wanted. Civil rights?

No.....nothing polarizing at all........

-The Kirk question isn't worthy of a response.

You're lying. You absolutely think it's worthy of a response. you just don't like what you have.

-Political violence is a road we don't want to go down.

I don't know who "we" is but I agree it's not a road to go down.

Despite what appears to be very shoddy security regarding Trump's protection, the US Government is not going to tolerate this.

The American people have no stomach for it.

"JFK Pissed off powerful Establishment people.....and racists, and Cubans......"

FT

In order to make a point, why do folks delude themselves into believing Trump has been the first to do what he does?

-Trump has done a lot of things no other Pres would even dream of being crude, corrupt, or insane enough to do.

Okay...but you're going to have to be more specific.

I'd help you but I want you to do a pull up all by yourself this time.

-he news cycle has shifted from high prices, Epstein and the war in Iran, to this charade.

They shifted from ICE to the war in Iran.....I'll assume you didn't like that.

Can't you ever be happy?

:-)

-If you're seriously comparing JFK to Trump then don't bother trying to make whatever "point" you're going to make.

You're a harmless partisan whining on the internet like you do every day. Try to remember that.

I'm asking you to see it through the lense of someone who will pick up a weapon and take a shot at the POTUS.

I AM comparing Trump to JFK in that context.

I'm also comparing Charlie Kirk to MLK.

I don't personally compare the virtue and impact of Kirk to MLK. History will always revere MLK and Kirk will never achieve that. Same with Trump.

But with regards to people who are capable of perpetrating such violence and who they are influenced by?

The comparisons are fair.

But it's fun watching you walk that tightrope.

-If you're going to try and tell people what they're thinking

You're an open book. Sorry, but I can read.

Now, about my balls.......they're fine. You don't need to go there.

Unless you have nowhere else to go......

-You're this close to figuring it out.

Figure what out?

You really think you're in a position to validate my intelligence?

You think everyone here who disagrees with you is a complete moron. Just stick with that.

You're wrong of course....it's not that simple. I happen to find many here whom I have disagreements with to be reasonably smart.

You're not capable of that. Which is fine. A man should know his limitations.

-Nope, you're just trying to weasel your own assumptions into a conversation

You are completely fine with this. You think Trump deserves it.

You understand we can't allow such behavior but you're rooting for it regardless.

And why? Because Trump deserves it.

-He's not at all a loathsome human being who is a known fraud, serial sexual predator, pedo, liar, adulterer ect ect ect.

That comment right there is a good example.

If someone had typed that after JFK was killed, they would be rightfully attacked for defending, excusing, explaining, etc. the violence.

Which is what you're doing.

-I've already explicitly stated otherwise.

which pisses you off you have to say it because you don't believe it.

You're fine with this.

-No, I don't; anyone with at least half a brain knows exactly what I mean.

you just excluded most here with that qualification so nice try.

You'll have to be more specific.

and it's obviously why you can't be.

because you can't be. LOL

-But sure, it's a great example of me "excusing" violence.

I've read many times here....."if you don't like being called a racist...don't act like one".

Let that sink in a little bit. If you don't like the accusation, then maybe stay away from such a position.

You want to die on this hill, be my guest. You can come back tomorrow and pretend you didn't say any of that.

And it's likely I won't be here to laugh at you. too busy for that right now. I had a few minutes here to have some fun.

Thanks for offering up the meat ball over the plate.

The thing is......I'm fine with anything you support.....regardless if I agree with it or not.

I'm not going to go all "GFY" or whatever childish and cowardly crap you throw at people when you're failing to win an argument.

Anything I say to you here I can gladly say right to your face.

Enjoy the internet, little fella.

-No, I can't; anyone with at least half a brain knows I can't do it.

FT

can't do even 1 pull up, can you?

I'm not even disagreeing with you.

But even with my agreement, you don't have the balls to expand on that.

You're THAT afraid of me and my scrutiny.

Here I'll help......

"Trump has done a lot of things no other Pres would even dream of being crude, corrupt, or insane enough to do."

I'll start with one......Trump has been fine with being openly hostile towards members of the press right to their faces on camera.

Don't remember any president being quite so disrespectful towards the press.

-Intentionally misstating people's comments and inserting your own BS assumptions isn't "winning an argument," dumbf*&^.

I didn't misstate your comment. I cut and pasted them.

I merely offered up a contextual comparison to past victims of political violence and you got your wittle feewings hurt.

Imagine what I could do to your feelings if I were TRYING to hurt them?

wow......that would be ugly.

-I have no need to disown my statements.

And yet you whine when I accurately reference them.

"He's not at all a loathsome human being who is a known fraud, serial sexual predator, pedo, liar, adulterer ect ect ect."

did you or did you not type that?

And I don't disagree with you on that. But I used it to partially describe JFK.....and then you lose your ----.

Why? Do you disagree that JFK was guilty of everything I assigned to him?

Why such hostility in response?

Because perhaps you're not very smart? And you're upset you're not being allowed to win an argument?

-What more about a Convicted sexual assault finger raping, victim defaming, convicted Fraud, and Impeached President on testimony of his own DOJ that he ordered them to Rig the Election... do you need,

"Did you have to go there, Corky? I just want to live out my years in peace and let my transgressions stay in the past. Stop bringing them up"

-Bill Clinton

Now, I know Bill's not guilty of all of that........but you're acting like Trump's the first to accomplish some of those feats.

I know.......facts suck sometimes.

-No feelings hurt

100 out of 100 people will honestly say that "GFY" is something said by someone who had their feelings hurt.

-semblance of credibility.

I take it for granted I'm always the one in the conversation with the most credibility.

Always.....and it's because I choose my conversations. I'm not on this place all day every day shouting at others profane insults as if I'm trying to best them day after day.

IOW, I leave you folks alone 99% of the time. I read your comments to others occasionally.......but not a lot. I see how you try to keep up with folks on the economy, global politics, war, defense systems, the environment, constitutional law, etc....you know....things you're very very very well versed in. You and JPWGFY I mean.

"Dubious regarding the comparison until the clarification. What's this, the fourth time I've said this now?"

I'm sorry.....my clarification was unintentional if it happened at all. I really don't know what you're talking about.

I know you're incapable of asking a question if you're unclear as to my meaning. You run right to "GFY" if you're stumped, I guess.

Nothing hostile about that at all.

Is that what you mean with "GFY"? It's your way of admitting you don't understand someone? You need something clarified and rather than ask, it's "GFY" and I'm supposed to interpret that to really mean "I'm not clear on what you're saying....could you be more specific?"

I won't forget that.

-C&Ping a quote then entirely misrepresenting what it means,

except......I didn't.

You're quite angry with where I took this.

You'll just have to deal with it. Maybe a few more profane laden posts will do the trick.

Is it therapeutic for you?

-Actually, it's a dismissive attempt to end a conversation that's no longer worth having with a participant who is less than honest or genuine.

GFY is "dismissive"?

Regardless.....has it ever worked? I mean even on yourself. Because if it's not worth having, then explain your next 25 posts to the same person you consider "no longer worth having".

You're still having it. But it's not worth it?

Stop being silly. GFY is about not being allowed to win. I'm supposed to let you win and I haven't played that the way you want, huh?

Honestly.......I'm a little guilty of that myself.

were you the youngest in the group who cried unless they let you win when you were little?

I end conversations I want to end. I'll do it here shortly, I promise.

"Don't cross the streams."

GFY!!!!

see, that's a joke because I'm really asking you what you mean by that.

-You fleshed out your thoughts in response to initial scoffing by myself and a few other posters.

I didn't see them. I only saw yours and maybe corky bit an ankle or 2 but that's about it.

I WAS acting in good faith with The JFK comparison. My unintentional clarification was just that. I'm fine with the clarification if it was needed.

The only bad faith thing I did was attaching you to the defenses of such behavior. But that was only because you knew in your heart you had walked that tight rope and didn't want to come off as being supportive of it.

So I had my fun with it.

-Nothing Bubba or Obama of any other Pres has done comes anywhere close to Trump.

Nothing? Sex with an intern in the WH, attacking all the bimbos, impeachment?

That's nothing?

I agree Trump is demonstrably worse. But Clinton's transgressions were "nothing"?

That's your lame ass defense for whataboutism?

GFY!!!!!!

LOL

I'm ending these conversations.

see? This how you end a conversation.

Bye....

-Do you think they told Crooks he was going to get brained on that roof?

Did you ever give up the 9-11 conspiracy theories?

Moved on to this one?