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Would this apply to lesbians? Even the femme ones? That seems wrong.

#1 | Posted by censored at 2024-04-28 03:43 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Can't tell the difference between the wacky Islamists and American magats.

#2 | Posted by YAV at 2024-04-28 04:14 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

Can't tell the difference between the wacky Islamists and American magats.
#2 | Posted by YAV

You might be on to something.

"New Iraqi government moves to block porn sites." www.al-monitor.com

"Pornhub blocked in Texas over age-verification law." www.statesman.com

#3 | Posted by censored at 2024-04-28 04:34 PM | Reply

#3

As of March 2024 Porn Hub blocks it's content in 8 states, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Montana, North Carolina, Texas, Utah, and Virginia.

Technically the states don't block Porn Hub they require age verification. Porn Hub decided rather than comply with the age verification law they would just block access. Other sites instituted an age verification process or just ignore the law (most porn websites are not US based).

As far as Iraq goes I can't say I'm surprised given how we removed a mostly secular government in a deeply religious area of the world religious law taking over seems like something we could have anticipated.

#4 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2024-04-28 05:12 PM | Reply

If you don't think they are coming for porn, you ain't paying attention. The Comstock Act is literally about restricting interstate pornography.

#5 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-28 05:19 PM | Reply

#5

Of course they are coming for porn the whole point of the age verification laws is to accomplish what porn hub did. I suspect the site that has age verification is getting very little traffic from those states. Since you have to have a photo taken with your webcam,and submit your photo ID which are two things I don't think most porn consumers are interested in doing.

The age verification is just an opening salvo and an easy sell since "It's for the children". Of course when that only slows it down and doesn't stop it there will be a round two.

Not much I can do about it. My vote is gerrymandered to the point it's irrelevant in state and congressional elections, and my state is red enough that my vote for president and senator amounts to urinating in a hurricane.

#6 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2024-04-28 06:05 PM | Reply

#iwishmyvotecounted

#7 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-28 06:18 PM | Reply

Of course they did.

The US bombed them back to around 80 or 100 years ago to ensure that democracy could flourish there.

Anyone else ever notice how the people who endorse that sort of thing never have to atone for their actions?

They're all still on TV, working at the newspaper, in politics, posting on this site, etc.

They just kind of stagger on to the next atrocity that makes their dicks hard, soaked in the blood of the victims of the last one and pretend like nothing happened.

#8 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-04-29 04:35 AM | Reply

Coming eventually from American Christian fundamentalists.

#9 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-04-29 01:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"that makes their dicks hard, soaked in the blood of the victims "

I don't think I like your porn site. I don't think it's going to get much traffic. Maybe a few really REALLY sick loonies.

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-04-29 01:18 PM | Reply

Conservative brains work the same way everywhere, the only difference is what part of the world they are born in, which determines how much of their hateful agenda they can impose on others.

#11 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-04-29 01:41 PM | Reply

#11 Not sure why your equating this with conservatives, last I know gay people have no issues living in blue or red states.
The people who should be told about this are the college kids protesting against Israel and for Hamas. They don't even have a clue that they are supporting anti LBGT governments.

#12 | Posted by fishpaw at 2024-04-29 02:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

-Not sure why your equating this with conservatives,

attention

#13 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-29 02:24 PM | Reply

Did Fishpaw actually make a reasonable observation? Stop the presses! Run the instant-replay. Be on the look-out for flying pigs!

#14 | Posted by moder8 at 2024-04-29 02:24 PM | Reply

"last I know gay people have no issues living in blue or red states."

Fake news.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-29 02:36 PM | Reply

11 Not sure why your equating this with conservatives, last I know gay people have no issues living in blue or red states.
The people who should be told about this are the college kids protesting against Israel and for Hamas. They don't even have a clue that they are supporting anti LBGT governments.

POSTED BY FISHPAW AT 2024-04-29 02:21 PM | REPLY

Oppression knows no barriers. Wether it's LGBTQUIA people, Palestinians etc etc etc. Just because the leadership maybe corrupt someplace doesn't mean you can't support the people themselves. It's not crazy to support the oppressed no matter how they believe or don't believe.

www.peoplesworld.org

They'd kill you!': Islamophobic campaign aims to diminish queer support for Gaza
February 16, 2024 10:09 AM CST BY NICO

Palestine is a homophobic place that queer people should never defend. That's the argument many supporters of Israel's war try to use on social media to dissuade LGBTQ people from speaking out on behalf of Gaza.

#16 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-04-29 02:39 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

11 Not sure why your equating this with conservatives, last I know gay people have no issues living in blue or red states.
The people who should be told about this are the college kids protesting against Israel and for Hamas. They don't even have a clue that they are supporting anti LBGT governments.
POSTED BY FISHPAW AT 2024-04-29 02:21 PM | REPLY

I am fairly certain that the kids protesting on campuses are primarily concerned about the colleges they attend making money off of the genocidal actions being perpetrated by the Israeli government. Thus the calls for divestment.

That is too complicated and nuanced for idiots like you to comprehend.

#17 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-29 02:48 PM | Reply

"I am fairly certain that the kids protesting on campuses are primarily concerned about the colleges they attend making money off of the genocidal actions being perpetrated by the Israeli government."

I'm not disagreeing with you but how are those colleges making money off what Israel is doing?

#18 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-29 02:53 PM | Reply

" Not sure why your equating this with conservatives"

You're joking, right?

Did you miss Uncle Clarence telling conservatives against gay marriage to bring it on?!?

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-29 03:47 PM | Reply

" how are those colleges making money off what Israel is doing?"

Investments.

A portion of their endowment monies no doubt are invested in, say, Israeli high-rises.

#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-29 03:49 PM | Reply

Not sure why your equating this with conservatives,

Because conservatives are the ones who fight to strip others of their rights and freedoms.

#21 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-29 03:56 PM | Reply

20

And that matters to these kids?

Are any of them saying that?

They care about the University endowment's (which 90% of them receive no benefit from) asset allocation?

really?

#22 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-29 04:14 PM | Reply

#22 Zionists are the only ones afraid of the BDS movement, maybe you should be lecturing Zionists why they're wrong to worry about it.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-29 04:17 PM | Reply

"And that matters to these kids?"

Yes. It's one of the pro-active steps they believe the University could/should take.

"Are any of them saying that?"

Some? Sure.
www.axios.com

#24 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-04-29 04:26 PM | Reply

Eberly really can't believe there are college kids who are educated and still don't support Zionism?

Dude. There are Jews who don't support Zionism.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-29 04:29 PM | Reply

24

Thanks for the response. Despite having 1 kid studying at a major university and another in Law School, I wasn't aware of those concerns.

#26 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-29 04:30 PM | Reply

...wasn't Woke to those concerns...

Isn't that how you want it?

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-29 04:36 PM | Reply

Moochy can't believe there are people out there with jobs, family, a life, etc....who know virtually zero jews, Zionists or not.

#28 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-29 04:37 PM | Reply

Yeah put them in jail that will cure em.

#29 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-04-29 04:38 PM | Reply

#28 Weird flex, that the reason you're ignorant is simply because you're so provincial.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-29 04:41 PM | Reply

30

yeah...in some ways being in rural American insulates you from what's going on. I could walk outside my office and ask everyone why college students are protesting and I wouldn't get any informed answer.

#31 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-29 04:43 PM | Reply

"yeah...in some ways being in rural American insulates you from what's going on."

Somebody ought to invent newspapers, the radio, television, and the Internet.

That would really help those people out.

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-29 04:45 PM | Reply

yeah...in some ways being in rural American insulates you from what's going on. I could walk outside my office and ask everyone why college students are protesting and I wouldn't get any informed answer.
POSTED BY EBERLY AT 2024-04-29 04:43 PM | REPLY

They are more worried about what's going on on the farm than what's going on around the world. Besides they aren't watching TV as much compared to city folks.

#33 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-04-29 04:51 PM | Reply

Somebody ought to invent newspapers, the radio, television, and the Internet.
That would really help those people out.

POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2024-04-29 04:45 PM | REPLY

Newspapers are horrible around these parts. There's hardly any news in them these days.

#34 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-04-29 04:57 PM | Reply

"That would really help those people out."

Plenty of dumfuqs on this place who have access to all of that.

and our government has been sending billions and billions annually to Israel. People know that. I hear all the time about cutting aid to Israel.

But the college kids want the universities (many are even private) to divest from Israel.

okay.

#35 | Posted by eberly at 2024-04-29 05:01 PM | Reply

Are you old enough to remember when college kids wanted the universities to divest from South Africa?

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-29 05:12 PM | Reply

"and our government has been sending billions and billions annually to Israel."

Did you know this is one of the reasons people call Israel a colony?

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-29 05:15 PM | Reply

en.wikipedia.org

A disinvestment policy the US adopted in 1986 in response to the disinvestment campaign is credited with playing a role in pressuring the South African government to embark on negotiations that ultimately led to the dismantling of the apartheid system.[2]

Higher education endowments
Student anti-apartheid activists in the US demanded that their colleges and universities divest from companies that traded or had operations in South Africa. At many universities, students and faculty pressured the board of trustees to take action on the issue. The first anti-apartheid organization on university campuses in the United States was CUAA, founded by Ramon Sevilla at the University of California, Berkeley. Sevilla had support from Nelson Mandela, with whom he was in communication while Mandela was imprisoned on Robben Island, and he was also in contact with the African National Congress (ANC).[citation needed]

Some of the most effective actions in support of divestment from South Africa took place in the years 1976"1985. Sevilla travelled throughout the US and Europe gathering support for sanctions against South Africa, and he led a successful effort to force the University of California to divest all of its investments in companies doing business in South Africa. In an anti-apartheid protest in April 1986, 61 students were arrested after building a shantytown in front of the chancellor's office at UC Berkeley.[8] At Occidental College in Los Angeles, future US president Barack Obama was one of the divestment activists.[9]

As a result of these organised divestment campaigns, the boards of trustees of several colleges and universities voted to divest completely from companies with major South African interests. The first of these was Hampshire College in 1977.

These initial successes set a pattern that was later repeated at other campuses across the country. Activism surged in 1984 on the wave of public interest created by the wide television coverage of resistance efforts of black South Africans. According to Knight's analysis,[6] over the next few years the number of educational institutions fully or partially divesting from South Africa increased as follows:

Those that will not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.

#38 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-29 05:22 PM | Reply

Again, jackbooted thugs are NEVER on the right side of history.

#39 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-29 05:23 PM | Reply

FWIW

Nelson Mandela remarked that the University of California's massive divestment was particularly significant in pressuring for an end to white-minority rule in South Africa.

Now, one must consider whether the actions of the Israeli government are worthy of this action.

#40 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-29 05:25 PM | Reply

They are so afraid of BDS they are seeking to criminalize it:

With regard to the Arab-Israeli conflict, many supporters of the State of Israel have often advocated or implemented anti-BDS laws (Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions), which effectively seek to retaliate against people and organizations engaged in boycotts of Israel-affiliated entities. Most organized boycotts of Israel have been led by Palestinians and other Arabs with support from much of the Muslim world. Since the Second Intifada in particular, these efforts have primarily been coordinated at an international level by the Palestinian-led BDS movement ("Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions"), which seeks to mount as much economic pressure on Israel as possible until the Israeli government allows an independent Palestinian state to be established.[1] Anti-BDS laws are designed to make it difficult for anti-Israel people and organizations to participate in boycotts; anti-BDS legal resolutions are symbolic and non-binding parliamentary condemnations, either of boycotts of Israel or of the BDS movement itself. Generally, such condemnations accuse BDS of closeted antisemitism, charging it with pushing a double standard and lobbying for the de-legitimization of Israeli sovereignty, and are often followed by laws targeting boycotts of Israel.
en.m.wikipedia.org

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-29 05:28 PM | Reply

and fwiw, I am a strong supporter of Israel, my next-door neighbor growing up was Jewish who lost family in the Holocaust, my best friend in college was Jewish and we visited his grandparents during spring break one year and his grandmother had a number tattooed on her arm. My first true love was a Jewish girl. I have read a great deal about the Holocaust and understand the Jewish people's singular sensitivity to security concerns. I get that, truly I do.

But I am also Irish American who proudly identifies with the Northern Ireland Irish who were subjected to abuses by an occupying government. So that gives me sympathy for the Palestinian people.

I view the problem with Israel arises from their conservative authoritarian politicians, who expand settlements, who treat the Palestinian people as a problem to be destroyed, who refuse the logical and just path to a 2-state solution and not with the average Israeli.

#42 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-29 05:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#42...who refuse the logical and just path to a 2-state solution and not with the average Israeli.
- truth

Lol Palestinians refused 2- state solution, just ask Clinton.

Now they claim they want it, because they lose every time they try to fight.

It's a good talking point, but just full of ----.

#43 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-29 05:42 PM | Reply

"Lol Palestinians refused 2- state solution, just ask Clinton."

^
Israel refuses any two state solution, just ask Netanyahu.

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-29 05:46 PM | Reply

#11 Not sure why your equating this with conservatives, last I know gay people have no issues living in blue or red states.
#12 | Posted by fishpaw

Because hating gays is a conservative trait, same here as it is in the mideast.

#45 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-04-29 06:42 PM | Reply

Cults are harmful

#46 | Posted by hamburglar at 2024-04-29 07:52 PM | Reply

#10 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

I meant throbbing ---- in your case, #10.

Sorry if I confused you...

#47 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-04-29 08:23 PM | Reply

Lol Palestinians refused 2- state solution, just ask Clinton.

#43 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT AT 2024-04-29 05:42 PM | FLAG:
(CHOOSE)

Oh look.

Genocide allows people who pretend to disagree, but actually only thirst for blood and oil find common ground.

Fancy that .....

#48 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-04-29 08:26 PM | Reply

Just imagine being a(n) ,,,,,,, whatever the ---- #43 is and being like "I know I'm right!!!!! One of the Clintons said so!!!!!!!!!"

Conversely, imagine being a liberal and thinking "this is exactly what every rotten ------------ who has ever existed wants. I'm on the rrrrriiiiiiggggghhhhttttttt side of history!!!!!"

The end of the US empire is close.

#49 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-04-29 08:30 PM | Reply

Rejoice, comrades.

#50 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-04-29 08:31 PM | Reply

Palestine is a homophobic place that queer people should never defend. That's the argument many supporters of Israel's war try to use on social media to dissuade LGBTQ people from speaking out on behalf of Gaza.
#16 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR AT 2024-04-29 02:39 PM | FLAG:

There are no Islamic countries left where you can host a pride parade without the police showing up to beat you all and throw you in jail. Turkey and Lebanon fell to conservatives.

#51 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-04-30 10:58 AM | Reply

Imagine if the LGBT lobby cared as much about boycott & divestment of Islamic countries as some students do about Israel. The protest world would look very strange.

#52 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-04-30 11:03 AM | Reply

Imagine if the LGBT lobby cared as much about boycott & divestment of Islamic countries as some students do about Israel. The protest world would look very strange.

#52 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

Exactly HOW would they lobby against Iraq?

#53 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-04-30 11:13 AM | Reply

"Imagine if the LGBT lobby cared as much about boycott & divestment of Islamic countries as some students do about Israel."

Imagine if you understood Israel is supposed to be a Western Democracy, and why that's supposed to make Israel better than Islamic countries.

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-04-30 12:10 PM | Reply

#54 it is.

Beyond LGBT+

Israel actually pays for abortions.

Which are also illegal in Islamic countries.

#55 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-30 12:19 PM | Reply

"Which are also illegal in Islamic countries."

-------

The following Islamic (or Islamic-majority) countries that have abortion laws that are less restrictive than those currently in Texas, Arkansas, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Kentucky, or Missouri:

Algeria
Morocco
Tunisia
Egypt
Saudi Arabia
Oman
Pakistan
Sudan
Mali
Chad
Niger
Iran
Indonesia
Malaysia
Kuwait
Qatar
UAE
Eithiopia
Turkmenistan
Turkey
Azerbaijan
Uzbekistan
Kazakhstan
Tajikistan
Krgzstan
Eritrea

#56 | Posted by ExpectingReign at 2024-04-30 12:59 PM | Reply

Thanks for the assist with post #2!

#57 | Posted by YAV at 2024-04-30 01:10 PM | Reply

Imagine if the LGBT lobby cared as much about boycott & divestment of Islamic countries as some students do about Israel. [...] #52 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Palestinians have some of the lowest rates of gay-tolerance in the world, at around 4%. www.pewresearch.org

So seeing the Queers for Palestine crowd turn out is even funnier to me than the Greens helping eledct Dubbya and Trump. Can't wait to see the Queers for ISIS crowd. Should be a hoot.

#58 | Posted by censored at 2024-04-30 02:44 PM | Reply

There are no Islamic countries left where you can host a pride parade without the police showing up to beat you all and throw you in jail. Turkey and Lebanon fell to conservatives.

#51 | Posted by sitzkrieg

And if christofascists gain enough power you wont be able to do it in the USA either.

The islamic world is a glimpse into the type of life that letting religious -------- set policy creates.

#59 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-04-30 04:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Because conservatives are the ones who fight to strip others of their rights and freedoms.

#21 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-29 03:56 PM | Reply | Flag

The 2nd amendment would like a word with you.

#60 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-04-30 04:23 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Yeah? Where are these efforts to strip people of their 2nd amendment rights? Where is this happening? I see just yesterday a 2nd amendment aficionado using his 2nd amendment rights in NC, something you assuredly support.

#61 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-30 04:33 PM | Reply

The 2nd amendment would like a word with you.

#60 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

James Madison would like a few words with you.

Specifically "well regulated" and "militia".

#62 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-04-30 04:33 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

Exactly HOW would they lobby against Iraq?

#53 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2024-04-30 11:13 AM | REPLY

BDS, cut off USAID, cut off US arms.

Iraq, Saudi, Jordan, Egypt, Turkey, UAE, etc etc

#63 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-05-01 07:05 AM | Reply

>Exactly HOW would they lobby against Iraq? #53 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT
BDS, cut off USAID, cut off US arms. Iraq, Saudi, Jordan, Egypt, Turkey, UAE, etc etc
#63 | Posted by sitzkrieg

That sort of thinking only works for the Jews in Israel.

The Pro-Hamasers have no problem supporting Muslim nations and groups that would kill most of them on sight. It's those Jews fighting for their very existence that really rile them up. Israel claiming that 0.2% of the world's land as the Jewses's last refuge greatly vex the pro-Hamas mob; must be very special sand over there.

#64 | Posted by censored at 2024-05-01 07:32 AM | Reply

"The Pro-Hamasers have no problem supporting Muslim nations and groups that would kill most of them on sight."

Plenty of Palestinian civilians have been killed on sight by IDF.

You go further than not having a problem with it. You cheer for it.

Why can't you imagine a you on the other side?
???

#65 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-01 08:21 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Exactly HOW would they lobby against Iraq?
#53 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2024-04-30 11:13 AM | REPLY
BDS, cut off USAID, cut off US arms.
Iraq, Saudi, Jordan, Egypt, Turkey, UAE, etc etc
#63 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

Yes, cut off aid so we have absolutely no leverage when it comes to negotiation on any topic.

#66 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-05-01 09:31 AM | Reply

Not sure why your equating this with conservatives, last I know gay people have no issues living in blue or red states.
POSTED BY FISHPAW

Speaker of the House Mike Johnson wrote a brief to the Supreme Court urging them to support criminalizing gay sex.
www.splcenter.org

Oklahoma state senator calls LGBTQ+ people "filth" student was bullied and beaten.
www.kosu.org

GOP officials show support for "Kill The Gays" preacher.
www.desmoinesregister.com

GOP Congressman supports death penalty for gay people
gandernewsroom.com

Do you need more examples of why Iraqi religious conservatives would be equated with American religious conservatives? There are plenty more.

#67 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2024-05-01 10:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Yes, cut off aid so we have absolutely no leverage when it comes to negotiation on any topic.
#66 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

If they know you won't cut the aid, you don't have any leverage either.

#68 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-05-01 10:43 AM | Reply

The 2nd amendment would like a word with you.

#60 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

James Madison would like a few words with you.

Specifically "well regulated" and "militia".

#62 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-04-30 04:33 PM |

The right reads the constitution the same way they read the bible...by cherry picking the sentences they like and ignoring the rest.

#69 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-05-01 11:36 AM | Reply

"The 2nd amendment would like a word with you."

Man who fatally shot 4 officers had extensive criminal history,' police chief says
www.charlotteobserver.com

#70 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-01 11:37 AM | Reply

James Madison would like a few words with you.

#62 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

A slave owning------------ wants to talk to someone about their views?

Why,,,, is there anyone better who could give one some guidance??

#71 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-05-01 05:43 PM | Reply

Man who fatally shot 4 officers had extensive criminal history,' police chief says
www.charlotteobserver.com

#70 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

The question that is weighing on everyone's mind is have they put him on paid administrative leave yet??

#72 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-05-01 05:44 PM | Reply

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