U.S. Boat Strikes have Killed 32 People

Tuesday, October 21, 2025

Trump's Venezuela operation expands in the dark

Posted by retort at 02:23 PM | 35 COMMENTS | permalink | Comment on This Entry |

Ecuador released a man who survived a U.S. strike on a suspected drug-trafficking vessel after finding no evidence that he had committed a crime, officials said. [image or embed]
" CBS News (@cbsnews.com) Oct 21, 2025 at 9:00 AM

Donald Trump's military build-up off the coast of Venezuela is aimed at convincing President Nicols Maduro and his inner circle that staying in power will be more costly than leaving, according to Venezuelan opposition figures and analysts. on.ft.com/3L6ye57[image or embed]
-- Financial Times (@financialtimes.com) Oct 20, 2025 at 7:00 AM

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None of them had trials.

And some of them have obviously been innocent.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-21 11:18 AM | Reply

This a good time to talk about Trump's bloody insanity, on a day when he is using a backhoe (WTF?) to demolish the White House.

Donald craves the blood of others because this is the ultimate proof of his power; his proof that ordinary morality does not constrain him.

He does hesitate to murder people, now or in the past (Epstein of fond memory).

If he can't cheat his way through the mid-terms he's going to order Americans killed, and he has those who will carry out those orders.

The only question is how many of us die.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-21 11:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So what?
Trump says they were a threat to America.
Trump is Judge, Jury, and Executioner, and you Libs are next.
--Republicans

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-21 11:31 AM | Reply

33 people dead and the career of a black US Admiral dead.

Of course, they would likely have gotten him sooner or later anyway.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-21 11:56 AM | Reply

Our adversaries support the cartels. This is just proxy war with China, Russia and George Soros backing the cartels.

#5 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-10-21 12:21 PM | Reply

Prosecute the people responsible for these murders.

#6 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-10-21 12:27 PM | Reply

Our adversaries support the cartels.

And you support war crimes. Just like a good little Nazi.

#7 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-10-21 12:29 PM | Reply

Winning hearts and minds... republicl0wn style.

Never ends well.

#8 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2025-10-21 12:34 PM | Reply

This a good time to talk about Trump's bloody insanity, on a day when he is using a backhoe (WTF?) to demolish the White House.
Donald craves the blood of others because this is the ultimate proof of his power; his proof that ordinary morality does not constrain him.
He does hesitate to murder people, now or in the past (Epstein of fond memory).
If he can't cheat his way through the mid-terms he's going to order Americans killed, and he has those who will carry out those orders.
The only question is how many of us die.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-21 11:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Dude, you must be one of the remaining 10 people that tune into MSNBC. Get a life.

#9 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-10-21 12:37 PM | Reply

Extrajudicial killings of non-combatants using the military.
Opened in foreign theaters and coming to domestic venues near you soon.

#10 | Posted by MBlue at 2025-10-21 12:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#9 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

Is your real name Pollyanna?

Donald Trump is the most famous mentally-disturbed person on the planet.

He tears things up; he kills people; he rapes people; he steals from people.

All these things are known about him.

Who taught you that they were good? Or did you make that decision all on your own?

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-21 12:43 PM | Reply

33 people dead and the career of a black US Admiral dead.

He was a career sailor with stars on his shoulder who felt it better to abandon his lifelong service than continue partaking in the administration's actions.

Who cares if he was black.

Jesus y'all gotta stop with the constant identity politics s*&^ already.

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-21 12:51 PM | Reply

This is just proxy war with China, Russia and George Soros backing the cartels.

#5 | Posted by visitor_

Duhhhhhh GeoRgE SorOz!!!

#13 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-21 12:51 PM | Reply

Dude, you must be one of the remaining 10 people that tune into MSNBC. Get a life.

#9 | Posted by fishpaw

You don't have to watch a single second of MSNBC to see that is true you abysmally stupid pile of s*&^.

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-21 12:52 PM | Reply

He was just another DEI hire to the Trump Admin, and wouldn't have lasted anyway was the point.

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-21 12:52 PM | Reply

Fine. Probably true.

But don't cheapen the full impact of what his voluntary departure means over a likely hypothetical.

I just want to see Dems lose some of their old bad habits so we can at least have a fighting chance of surviving this nightmare.

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-21 12:58 PM | Reply

Him being black doesn't in my mind cheapen the impact of his leaving the service; it just points out the sneering disregard of non-whites by this Junta.

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-21 01:02 PM | Reply

Two that survived one of our illegal and unethical attacks were returned to their countries, Ecuador and Columbia. We didn't charge them, try them, or try to get information from them. We didn't tell Ecuador or Columbia to lock them up. I think it's pretty obvious why.

There's been ZERO evidence that anyone we've assassinated has been guilty of any crime. None.

#18 | Posted by YAV at 2025-10-21 01:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Our adversaries support the cartels. This is just proxy war with China, Russia and George Soros backing the cartels.
#5 | Posted by visitor_

What the hell are you talking about?
American consumers support the cartels.
And if drugs were legal, there wouldn't be drug cartels.
But then we wouldn't be able to send minorities to prison for victimless crimes.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-21 01:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I think the word your were looking for in the title is murdered.

#20 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-10-21 01:16 PM | Reply

I retract part of the above about the survivors. Columbian President Petro has stated the sub was a "narco submarine" and that the Columbian that was returned is going to be prosecuted. No word on the Ecuador return or if that happened.

"President Petro" sounds like a character in a spoof movie about Big Oil.

#21 | Posted by YAV at 2025-10-21 01:16 PM | Reply

Two questions:
(1) Where is the persuasive evidence that supports the Trumpists' assertions about these boats and the people on board them?
(2) Under what legal framework are these attacks/killings by US force conducted?

#22 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-10-21 01:28 PM | Reply

#22 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-10-21 01:28 PM | Reply

Question 3, if we can track them closely enough to target them with a missile why can't we board them with the Coast Guard and arrest them? You know, the legal thing to do.

#23 | Posted by MBlue at 2025-10-21 01:38 PM | Reply

Thank you, Mr. Blue, for that welcome addition.

#24 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-10-21 01:40 PM | Reply

Re 23

Because then there would be all that pesky "evidence" that would have to be explained in a court of law. And Trumpy ain't got time for that.

#25 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-10-21 01:42 PM | Reply

Shoot first, ask questions.... never.

It's the Fascist Way.

#26 | Posted by Corky at 2025-10-21 01:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Question 3, if we can track them closely enough to target them with a missile why can't we board them with the Coast Guard and arrest them? You know, the legal thing to do.

#23 | Posted by MBlue at 2025-10-21 01:38 PM | Reply | Flag:
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They tried but the boats are set up to out run the coast guard ships. But you know, with a speed boat rated to go 80 that out runs a coast guard ship with 10 large containers on board is just some innocent boater out for a joy ride.

#27 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-10-21 01:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

just some innocent boater out for a joy ride.
#27 | Posted by fishpaw

It's no surprise that MAGA doesn't believe in "innocent until proven guilty."

MAGA can determine guilt by skin color alone.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-21 01:51 PM | Reply

#27 of course, this stupid pile of s^*% is ok with the us violating international law because he's too brain dead to understand how the world works.

#29 | Posted by jpw at 2025-10-21 01:51 PM | Reply

They tried but the boats are set up to out run the coast guard ships.

#27 | POSTED BY FISHPAW

And Coast Guard helicopters.

Idiot.

And that warning shot across their bows that they never got.

Idiot.

#30 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-21 01:58 PM | Reply

Why is the United States Coast Guard guarding the coast of Venezuela in the first place?

Guessing it's because the Coast Guard is run by Alpha Males who are too proud to stop and ask for directions.

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-10-21 02:00 PM | Reply

Our adversaries support the cartels. This is just proxy war with China, Russia and George Soros backing the cartels.

#5 | Posted by visitor_

My adversaries support the fascist who attempted a coup against the US constitution.

#32 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-10-21 02:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

KKKristi Noem caught in a brazen lie as old photo used to promote extrajudicial slaughter.

www.rawstory.com

#33 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-10-21 02:25 PM | Reply

VISITOR forgot to mention Saul Alinsky while he was at it, LOL.

These RepubliQlown parrots have abandoned reality completely.

#34 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-10-21 02:57 PM | Reply

And Coast Guard helicopters.
Idiot.
And that warning shot across their bows that they never got.
Idiot.

#30 | Posted by Zed at 2025-10-21 01:58 PM | Reply | Flag:
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And how do you know they didn't? Let me guess, Joy Bahar told you so.

#35 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-10-21 03:02 PM | Reply