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Friday, March 14, 2025

Despite loud opposition from constituents and progressive lawmakers against such a move, Democratic Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) took to the Senate floor Thursday evening to announce he would vote to advance a Republican spending bill that critics say would "sacrifice the needs of working people at the altar of the ultra-wealthy" and greenlight further chaos and destruction by Dotard Trump and his Oligarch-in-Chief Felon Musk.

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Donald Trump and Elon Musk want a shutdown to destroy vital government services faster. It would be a disaster. And we have to alert everyone how much pain it would cause the American people. From my interview on @allinwithchris.bsky.social:

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-- Chuck Schumer (@schumer.senate.gov) March 13, 2025 at 11:15 PM

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Senator Schumer is up for re-election in 2028. AIPAC donated $1.7m to his campaign; other donors listed here: www.opensecrets.org

#1 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-03-14 04:41 AM | Reply

THIS kind of cowardly behavior is exactly why I don't send them anymore donations.

And I won't. Not until they grow a set and start standing up to and refusing to cooperate with the moron in the Oval Office and his maga minions in Congress.

At least the Supreme Court seems to be coming to its senses. Tho that is probably just a prelude to another disastrous ruling.

#2 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-03-14 12:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I don't blame you for not sending in donations. The ones in Congress fighting the hardest against Trumpf are AOC and Bernie Sanders, our most progressive legislators. What does Schumer gain by cooperating with the GOP, when vetoing them is the only weapon he has?

#3 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-03-14 01:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Dems are in an impossible situation. If they don't pass the spending bill, Mrump would have even more leeway to fire workers.

"A shutdown is uncharted territory when you've got an administration that, at least in some ways, probably would welcome a shutdown because that would give the president almost unlimited power in deciding who's essential, who's nonessential, holding up agencies," Sen. Angus King, I-Maine, told reporters Wednesday, calling it "a choice between two terrible alternatives."
www.forbes.com
Gotta keep in mind that, unlike pretty much every other prez in hisotry, Trump wants the economy to fail. It assists him in manipulating the stock market and profiting from shorting it.

#4 | Posted by censored at 2025-03-14 01:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Not another dime, not another vote, not another iota of effort to get any democrat re-elected.

At this point dems are complicit in what ------- is doing.

If you are going to vote magat, you are nothing more than magat scum.

Shut the ------- government down until ------- is impeached and removed from office.

#5 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-03-14 01:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Shut the government down.

Magat scum will initially be thrilled, ------- and musk will cut more government workers (but guess what, they'd cut em anyway).

Let weeks and months go by without a budget. Keep the ------- government shut down.

Eventually even magat scum will feel the heat.

All the while it is the fault of the republican scum who refuse to remove the most corrupt person in our nation's history

6, 9 months is a cheap price to pay for the salvation of our democracy.

You see, having failed and failed and failed, you are left with few options.

It is either this or a king, which is it?

#6 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-03-14 01:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I agree with TruthHurts. Dems should have shut it down rather than pass: "a bill written by the GOP that some Democrats have said gives the Trump administration broad leeway to dictate government spending, including freezing some funds, without congressional guardrails."

#7 | Posted by censored at 2025-03-14 01:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Actually, I heard Schumer on TV defend this action, and I think I agree with him. Shutting down the government will only further embolden and enable Elong and the magic incels smash and grab, as there will be nobody to monitor and report on the destruction from inside. The courts, which have been our only bulwark against the destruction of our country would also shutter. Dotard and the Reich want a shutdown, at 30 days he can declare a state of emergency and pretty much usurp all of the Article One powers. Dems have a chance to retake the House in the next two years prior to 2026 if they just win a couple of special elections, and right now things are not looking great for the MAGAt party. Plus, Faux Spews and Twittler would hang the shutdown on Dems, and unfortunately there is no bullhorn as loud as the one on the Reich. It's the best of a bad Sophie's choice.

#8 | Posted by _Gunslinger_ at 2025-03-14 01:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

I agree with TruthHurts. Dems should have shut it down rather than pass.
- censored

You and TruthNLies would be screaming at the next budget fight about the out of work government employees.

You and TruthNLies have lost any authority on this topic.

We should never shut down the government.

But you'd do to own the Cons, what stupidity.

#9 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-14 02:14 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Sound argument from Schumer, but the more progressive elements of the Democratic Party don't agree with him. I will trust Bernie's erudition before Chuckie's: www.commondreams.org

#10 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-03-14 02:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

You and TruthNLies would be screaming at the next budget fight about the out of work government employees. You and TruthNLies have lost any authority on this topic.

Says the Russian troll. Do you know who your purported senator in California is yet? Or how illegal immigration works? Or that Baldwin Park is part of Los Angeles?

We should never shut down the government. But you'd do to own the Cons, what stupidity.
#9 | Posted by oneironaut

No, I'd do it to stop giving even more authority to Trump. It's not just a spending bill but, rather, it apparently increase Trump's power to tear our government apart.

I will note, though, that Gunslinger made some good points, especially about Mrump shutting down the courts if this bill didn't pass.

#11 | Posted by censored at 2025-03-14 02:26 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Most of the time, I'm in favor of doing the exact opposite of anything OnRunt says. That is all.

#12 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-03-14 02:30 PM | Reply

Told you. It's all theatre. All they care about is fundraising.

#13 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-03-14 02:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I called Gillibrand and Schumer on Wed. and asked them to vote no on the Republican budget. I had one qualm, however: how would the shutdown affect the court cases being brought against Trump, Musk and OMP, some of which are starting to bear fruit? Two of my favorite online pundits have been weighing in on the topic: Josh Marshall and Marcy Wheeler.

Here are their latest takes, both of which are worth considering, IMO:

Looking Squarely at a Shutdown

It's hard to write clearly when you're being flooded with new information. But here goes. I've heard people arguing the "yes' on cloture" argument, essentially saying, "don't assume you can shut DOGE down, undo the damage. It's not a silver bullet." I can only speak for myself, but if anyone is thinking, based on the arguments I've made, that this is a silver bullet and if Democrats just do this we can shut this whole thing down, I haven't been clear. I will further say that while the things I've written over the last week or so make it pretty clear where I stand on this, I have several times over the last week had a hard think with myself: are you sure you're right about this? I'm not sure I'd say this is a close call. But it's a hard call, for me at least. Both options hold out possibilities of calamity and destruction I've never seriously contemplated before. That is simply where we are. I wish we weren't here. But we are here.

talkingpointsmemo.com

And:

Democrats Have to Stop Making Political Decisions with an Eye Towards 2026

I'm agnostic about whether a shutdown brings more advantage than risks.

One thing I am absolutely certain of, however, is that Democrats on both sides of this debate are framing it in terms of 2026. . . .This mindset has plagued both sides of Democratic debates for two months, with disastrous consequences.

Democracy will be preserved or lost in the next three months. And democracy will be won or lost via a nonpartisan political fight over whether enough Americans want to preserve their way of life to fight back, in a coalition that includes far more than Democrats. You win this fight by treating Trump and Elon as the villain, not by making any one Democrat a hero (or worse still, squandering week after week targeting Democratic leaders while letting Elon go ignored). . . .

I get the anger with Schumer--though I do think his concerns about the courts need to be taken very seriously.

But until Democrats stop thinking in terms of their own leadership in Congress but instead think exclusively about winning the political fight with people being hurt, not as Democrats, but as people opposed to fascism, they're going to be looking for power in the wrong places.


www.emptywheel.net

#14 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-14 02:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Gotta keep in mind that, unlike pretty much every other prez in hisotry, Trump wants the economy to fail. It assists him in manipulating the stock market and profiting from shorting it.
#4 | Posted by censored

Trump also wants the government to fail. Hello? That way he can justify all the cuts and executive orders he has already written as well as the ones he has ready to go the moment he is able to declare even more emergency orders that will give him unlimited and unfettered power over just about everything and in such a way that not even the courts will be able to stop him.

President Trump is testing the limits of emergency powers--again

Goitein, of the Brennan Center, says determining those limits is crucial. "There are powers that are available in a national emergency that are far more potent, including powers to shut down communications facilities, to control domestic transportation, to freeze Americans' assets without any due process or any judicial [approval]," she says. "So this question of 'What are the limits on a president's ability to abuse emergency powers?' is an absolutely crucial one for not just our individual liberties but for our democracy."

The question is how emergency powers are used--and for how long and with what limits.

Scheppele has studied how democracies, like Hungary, can turn toward autocracy. For her, the key question about the use of emergency powers is not whether they are legal--because lawful powers can be abused, she notes.

"The question is, does it move the president toward using powers that make it very difficult for powers ever to be taken out of his hands?" she says. "Autocracy is really about the executive capturing power and not letting it go."

With that in mind, she's watching to see whether declaring emergencies becomes a routine way for the Trump administration to push through policies over the objections of Congress or the public, sidelining the debates, compromises and checks and balances baked into democracy.

www.npr.org

#15 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-14 02:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Full Pelosi statement a link:

Sahil Kapur
@sahilkapur.bsky.social

Extraordinary moment--Nancy Pelosi issues a statement calling on Democratic senators to reject the House funding bill, i.e. to defy Chuck Schumer.

"Democratic senators should listen to the women," she says, referring to Murray/DeLauro who want a 1-month stopgap bill instead.

bsky.app

#16 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-14 03:08 PM | Reply

"Democratic senators should listen to the women," she says, referring to Murray/DeLauro who want a 1-month stopgap bill instead.

This is the sort of bigotry I expect from Elite Democrats, while the man on the street suffers.

#17 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-14 03:26 PM | Reply | Funny: 1


Trump also wants the government to fail. Hello?

This is a ridiculous assertion, what does "fail" even mean? You're basically saying Trump wants to fail himself out of a job.

Preposterous, no wonder no one takes you guys/gals seriously. Just lies upon hoaxes with "anon" sources.

#18 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-03-14 03:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

It's pretty much a damned if you do, damned if you don't wash.

Although I do buy that Trump would have more authority in a shut down than even this Bill gives him.

And that Dems have to do well in 2026 to have any chance at all of slowing this Authoritarian landslide.... which would be more difficult if they have a big, "We shut down the Gov!" sign around their necks.

Then again, I'm tempted to say F it, and hope Bernie is right that Dems can change a Narrative in mid-stream. Were I sure that Trump will still be a disaster by then, that would help.

But one never knows, do one? It would certainly feel good to blame Republicans for what Trump is doing to the country now, and see if that sticks. I think it may be too soon, but this is only a short stay of the Budget, and will have to be re-litigated in Congress pretty quickly anyway.

When things will likely be even worse, and voters paying more attention.

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-14 03:28 PM | Reply

Forget the shutdown let's have a general strike for a month and see how this fascist administration likes that.

#20 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2025-03-14 03:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In the late 19th century, a squad of British soldiers were on a boat exploring the Nile River when they were swarmed by a bask of crocodiles. One of the young infantrymen nervously asked the calm NCO which predator to shoot first. The grizzled NCO deployed his Webley revolver and replied, "Why, the closest one to the boat, man!"

#21 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-03-14 03:32 PM | Reply

This is a ridiculous assertion, what does "fail" even mean? You're basically saying Trump wants to fail himself out of a job.
Preposterous, no wonder no one takes you guys/gals seriously. Just lies upon hoaxes with "anon" sources.
#18 | Posted by oneironaut

He wants most of the federal government to fail, which will in turn will justify all the cuts he is making. He doesn't want the defense dept or homeland security to fail, but everything else that can be privatized and/or turned over to the states he doesn't care if it fails.

#22 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-14 03:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Forget the shutdown let's have a general strike for a month and see how this fascist administration likes that.

#20 | Posted by Wildman62

I've suggested this to a couple of groups of federal workers, but they're too scared to do it.

#23 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-03-14 03:36 PM | Reply

This is the sort of bigotry I expect from Elite Democrats, while the man on the street suffers.
#17 | Posted by oneironaut

She is not talking about women in general but about two specific women, who have been leading the House and Senate appropriations committees. This would probably be clear to you if you actually read Pelosi's statement in full:

"Democratic senators should listen to the women," she says, referring to Murray/DeLauro who want a 1-month stopgap bill instead.

#24 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-14 03:39 PM | Reply

"what does "fail" even mean?"

^
The question encapsulates what it is to be a Trumper.

To look failure dead in the eye, and not notice anything different than what you've been seeing your entire life.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-03-14 03:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Dems should certainly push the 30 day stop gap bill to the max.... they shouldn't actually be saying what they are going to do at all.

#26 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-14 03:42 PM | Reply

Authoritarian landslide

I wouldn't mind an authoritarian landslide. Things would run smoother. What bugs me is that Trump is a joke. The tiny-fingered vulgarian always has been. I still laugh when he says what he says. I can't take buffoons seriously.

That said, if someone like Mark Cuban or Emily Ratajkowski (for reasons that appeal to me personally)were to take power, I'd be interested.

#27 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-03-14 03:46 PM | Reply

This is a ridiculous assertion, what does "fail" even mean?

#18 | Posted by oneironaut

Not work? Falls apart? Taken apart? Too weak to function? Laughed at?

Um.....What's happening now?

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-14 03:52 PM | Reply

You're basically saying Trump wants to fail himself out of a job.

#18 | Posted by oneironaut

When are you going to admit the obvious: WHATEVER Trump does he sees it as being genius.

His peculiar brand of insanity demands it.

He doesn't see himself as failing himself out of a job.

He sees himself as building a mighty empire.

#29 | Posted by Zed at 2025-03-14 03:55 PM | Reply

This is a ridiculous assertion, what does "fail" even mean?
#18 | Posted by oneironaut

Doesn't deliver for the American people. VA services that can't be accessed. Social Security checks that don't arrive. FEMA funding that isn't available. That kind of thing.

#30 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-03-14 03:57 PM | Reply

- Emily Ratajkowski

Has my vote as well. Twice, at least!

#31 | Posted by Corky at 2025-03-14 04:12 PM | Reply

You're basically saying Trump wants to fail himself out of a job.
#18 | Posted by oneironaut

Trump's job is destroying this nation and its economy from within, alienating our allies, assisting Russia with its wars of foreign aggression, and nullifying our international defense agreements. He's doing a bang-up job at it.

His payment for these services will made through manipulating our stock market and whatever billions of stolen Ukrainian wealth Poohty throws his way.

#32 | Posted by censored at 2025-03-14 04:24 PM | Reply

So much for the "Resistance ... "

#33 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-03-14 04:38 PM | Reply

Is Rand Paul still saying ---- no to the repug spending bill?

#34 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-03-14 04:40 PM | Reply

What "resistance"?

Republicans control both chambers of congress and are still crying about how mean democrats are.

Don't worry.

I don't expect much from you.

You prefer letting Republicans tell you what to think.

#35 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-14 04:41 PM | Reply

So much for BlueWaffles.

Looks like he met his waffling quota for the day.

#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-14 04:51 PM | Reply

36

"You really want attention!" - Clownshack

#37 | Posted by eberly at 2025-03-14 04:55 PM | Reply

Keep following me from thread to thread crying, it's a good look.

#38 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-03-14 04:58 PM | Reply

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