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Republican Representative's Ectopic Pregnancy Clashes with Florida Abortion

Rep. Kat Cammack (R-FL) arrived at the emergency room in May 2024 terrified by what she had just learned: Her pregnancy could kill her at any moment," the Wall Street Journal reports.

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Exclusive: Rep. Kat Cammack says doctors last year hesitated to treat her ectopic pregnancy. She says the left scared medical professionals by stressing that they could face criminal charges.

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-- The Wall Street Journal (@wsj.com) Jun 22, 2025 at 1:19 PM

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#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-22 08:41 PM | Reply

Florida Heifer Kat Cammack Blames 'The Left' After FL Abortion Ban Nearly Killed Her

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#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-06-23 04:51 PM | Reply

This lady faced a very dangerous situation, one which was ignored by members of her political party when they crafted the law she had to argue about, so as to obtain proper medical care. Sadly, once treated, she did nothing to work toward the delivery of life-saving medical care for other Florida women. In short, she could be responsible for other Florida women dying...

#3 | Posted by catdog at 2025-06-23 05:42 PM | Reply

- In short, she could be responsible for other Florida women dying...

aka a Cabinet bid in Trumpland.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-23 05:47 PM | Reply

Anyone who graduates from medical skill without learning that an ectopic pregnancy is a life threatening emergency deserves to lose their medical license. But just in case those idiot doctors needed clarification, there was this:


59AER24-1 Medical Records Procedures for Treatment of Premature Rupture of Membranes and Other Life Threatening Conditions.

(3) The treatment of an ectopic pregnancy is not an abortion and shall not be reported pursuant to Rule 59A-9.034. The treating physician shall document the treatment in the patient's medical record.
(4) The treatment of a trophoblastic tumor is not an abortion and shall not be reported pursuant to Rule 59A-9.034. The treating physician shall document the treatment in the patient's medical record.
Rulemaking Authority 395.1055 FS. Law Implemented 390.0112, 395.3015 FS. History"New 5-1-24.

#5 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2025-06-23 08:36 PM | Reply

Why should medical doctors be reading legal documents? Are they lawyers?

Or do cops just expect *everyone* to inherently understand the the nuances of right-wing lawfare?

This is why you don't talk to cops without a lawyer. Dips like Miranda.

#6 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-06-23 09:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'd be happy if they read their medical books. You know, the ones that say ectopic pregnancies are not ever viable pregnancies and always threaten the life of the mother.

I am NOT a supporter of the Florida abortion statute, but no matter how poorly it was thought through, it is clear there was no intent to punish doctors who act in good faith to protect their patients. Exactly zero doctors have been prosecuted under this statute.

Meanwhile, there are too many stories of women dying or becoming critically ill because doctors put their patients lives at risk due to their own ignorance concerning these laws and harboring unfounded fears of prosecution. The media is complicit in the rampant misinformation and fear mongering that contributed to this phenomenon.

#7 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2025-06-23 11:00 PM | Reply

Why should medical doctors be reading legal documents? Are they lawyers?

Excuse me. These are professionals granted a licensed privilege. Expecting them to know the basic parameters of practicing of their profession is not unreasonable. Their professional associations should by educating. I'm sure they are.

Mine does.

#8 | Posted by et_al at 2025-06-23 11:36 PM | Reply

Agreed, and also, any facility offering emergency care has a legal department. It is their job to stay apprised of legislation that impacts their business and publish advisories to inform the non-lawyers on staff.

I am appalled at the way these laws are being used as an excuse to cover for tragic, preventable deaths of pregnant women due to reckless acts of negligent malpractice.

I am also against the imposition of these draconian abortion laws.

#9 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2025-06-24 12:03 AM | Reply

I'm betting the legal departments of most hospitals have detailed written guidance on everything from medications to mental health treatment to mop bucket storage. It isn't too much to ask them to keep personnel informed about the "nuances" of this legislation.

Maybe when the malpractice lawsuits start paying out, they will figure out they can comply with the law and keep their patients from dying at the same time.

#10 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2025-06-24 12:09 AM | Reply

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#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-22 08:41 PM | Reply | Flag:
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Florida Heifer Kat Cammack Blames 'The Left' After FL Abortion Ban Nearly Killed Her
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#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-06-23 04:51 PM | Reply | Flag:
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This lady faced a very dangerous situation, one which was ignored by members of her political party when they crafted the law she had to argue about, so as to obtain proper medical care. Sadly, once treated, she did nothing to work toward the delivery of life-saving medical care for other Florida women. In short, she could be responsible for other Florida women dying...

#3 | Posted by catdog at 2025-06-23 05:42 PM | Reply | Flag:
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- In short, she could be responsible for other Florida women dying...
aka a Cabinet bid in Trumpland.
#4 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-23 05:47 PM | Reply | Flag:
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Anyone who graduates from medical skill without learning that an ectopic pregnancy is a life threatening emergency deserves to lose their medical license. But just in case those idiot doctors needed clarification, there was this:

59AER24-1 Medical Records Procedures for Treatment of Premature Rupture of Membranes and Other Life Threatening Conditions.
(3) The treatment of an ectopic pregnancy is not an abortion and shall not be reported pursuant to Rule 59A-9.034. The treating physician shall document the treatment in the patient's medical record.
(4) The treatment of a trophoblastic tumor is not an abortion and shall not be reported pursuant to Rule 59A-9.034. The treating physician shall document the treatment in the patient's medical record.
Rulemaking Authority 395.1055 FS. Law Implemented 390.0112, 395.3015 FS. History"New 5-1-24.

#5 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2025-06-23 08:36 PM | Reply | Flag:
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Why should medical doctors be reading legal documents? Are they lawyers?
Or do cops just expect *everyone* to inherently understand the the nuances of right-wing lawfare?
This is why you don't talk to cops without a lawyer. Dips like Miranda."

I agree with MirandA, A DOCTOR TREATING A ATIENT WITH POTENTIALLY LIFE YHREATENING conditions shold not need to have a lawyer in the operating room assisting and overseeing what the doctor does to save their patient's life. Bottom line; the Legislature should not be oresuming to practice medicime through laws designed to pander to extreme right wing Christion voters!
Abortion should be a decision made by the patient and her doctor and evweyone else should minf their own God damned business!

#11 | Posted by danni at 2025-06-24 06:05 AM | Reply

"(3) The treatment of an ectopic pregnancy is not an abortion and shall not be reported pursuant to Rule 59A-9.034."

Of course it's an abortion. It absolutely kills the fetus.

Any medical doctor who aborted an ectopic pregnancy would testify that they provided abortion, regardless of what the law states.

We don't know why you can't acknowledge that fact.

You have a weird hang-up whereby you think if you tell a doctor it's okay to murder certain babies, you think they should believe you, but you're neither a lawyer or a doctor.

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-24 07:15 AM | Reply

You're a cop.

You are trained to lie to people, to try to get them to admit guilt.

That's all you are doing with your "command voice" posts, quoting a law you don't even understand.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-24 07:20 AM | Reply

Maybe when the malpractice lawsuits start paying out, they will figure out they can comply with the law and keep their patients from dying at the same time.
#10 | Posted by Miranda7

Completely backwards.

You think a Florida jury will punish a doctor for NOT killing a fetus, when abortion is illegal in Florida.

See, this is what I mean about you've been trained to lie to people.

It really makes it impossible to discuss the issues with you because you're already looking past the issues to the imaginary outcomes that just aren't supported by law or by human nature or by how businesses operate.

Your reassurances about the law fall as flat as a police officer who tells a woman not to worry because there's A restraining order against her abusive husband. Like that's any sort of guarantee.

You try to exploit people's naievete.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-24 07:27 AM | Reply

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