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Rep. Kat Cammack (R-FL) arrived at the emergency room in May 2024 terrified by what she had just learned: Her pregnancy could kill her at any moment," the Wall Street Journal reports.

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Exclusive: Rep. Kat Cammack says doctors last year hesitated to treat her ectopic pregnancy. She says the left scared medical professionals by stressing that they could face criminal charges.

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-- The Wall Street Journal (@wsj.com) Jun 22, 2025 at 1:19 PM

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#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-22 08:41 PM | Reply

Florida Heifer Kat Cammack Blames 'The Left' After FL Abortion Ban Nearly Killed Her

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#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-06-23 04:51 PM | Reply

This lady faced a very dangerous situation, one which was ignored by members of her political party when they crafted the law she had to argue about, so as to obtain proper medical care. Sadly, once treated, she did nothing to work toward the delivery of life-saving medical care for other Florida women. In short, she could be responsible for other Florida women dying...

#3 | Posted by catdog at 2025-06-23 05:42 PM | Reply

- In short, she could be responsible for other Florida women dying...

aka a Cabinet bid in Trumpland.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-23 05:47 PM | Reply

Anyone who graduates from medical skill without learning that an ectopic pregnancy is a life threatening emergency deserves to lose their medical license. But just in case those idiot doctors needed clarification, there was this:


59AER24-1 Medical Records Procedures for Treatment of Premature Rupture of Membranes and Other Life Threatening Conditions.

(3) The treatment of an ectopic pregnancy is not an abortion and shall not be reported pursuant to Rule 59A-9.034. The treating physician shall document the treatment in the patient's medical record.
(4) The treatment of a trophoblastic tumor is not an abortion and shall not be reported pursuant to Rule 59A-9.034. The treating physician shall document the treatment in the patient's medical record.
Rulemaking Authority 395.1055 FS. Law Implemented 390.0112, 395.3015 FS. History"New 5-1-24.

#5 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2025-06-23 08:36 PM | Reply

Why should medical doctors be reading legal documents? Are they lawyers?

Or do cops just expect *everyone* to inherently understand the the nuances of right-wing lawfare?

This is why you don't talk to cops without a lawyer. Dips like Miranda.

#6 | Posted by horstngraben at 2025-06-23 09:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I'd be happy if they read their medical books. You know, the ones that say ectopic pregnancies are not ever viable pregnancies and always threaten the life of the mother.

I am NOT a supporter of the Florida abortion statute, but no matter how poorly it was thought through, it is clear there was no intent to punish doctors who act in good faith to protect their patients. Exactly zero doctors have been prosecuted under this statute.

Meanwhile, there are too many stories of women dying or becoming critically ill because doctors put their patients lives at risk due to their own ignorance concerning these laws and harboring unfounded fears of prosecution. The media is complicit in the rampant misinformation and fear mongering that contributed to this phenomenon.

#7 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2025-06-23 11:00 PM | Reply

Why should medical doctors be reading legal documents? Are they lawyers?

Excuse me. These are professionals granted a licensed privilege. Expecting them to know the basic parameters of practicing of their profession is not unreasonable. Their professional associations should by educating. I'm sure they are.

Mine does.

#8 | Posted by et_al at 2025-06-23 11:36 PM | Reply

Agreed, and also, any facility offering emergency care has a legal department. It is their job to stay apprised of legislation that impacts their business and publish advisories to inform the non-lawyers on staff.

I am appalled at the way these laws are being used as an excuse to cover for tragic, preventable deaths of pregnant women due to reckless acts of negligent malpractice.

I am also against the imposition of these draconian abortion laws.

#9 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2025-06-24 12:03 AM | Reply

I'm betting the legal departments of most hospitals have detailed written guidance on everything from medications to mental health treatment to mop bucket storage. It isn't too much to ask them to keep personnel informed about the "nuances" of this legislation.

Maybe when the malpractice lawsuits start paying out, they will figure out they can comply with the law and keep their patients from dying at the same time.

#10 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2025-06-24 12:09 AM | Reply

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#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-22 08:41 PM | Reply | Flag:
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Florida Heifer Kat Cammack Blames 'The Left' After FL Abortion Ban Nearly Killed Her
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#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-06-23 04:51 PM | Reply | Flag:
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This lady faced a very dangerous situation, one which was ignored by members of her political party when they crafted the law she had to argue about, so as to obtain proper medical care. Sadly, once treated, she did nothing to work toward the delivery of life-saving medical care for other Florida women. In short, she could be responsible for other Florida women dying...

#3 | Posted by catdog at 2025-06-23 05:42 PM | Reply | Flag:
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- In short, she could be responsible for other Florida women dying...
aka a Cabinet bid in Trumpland.
#4 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-23 05:47 PM | Reply | Flag:
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Anyone who graduates from medical skill without learning that an ectopic pregnancy is a life threatening emergency deserves to lose their medical license. But just in case those idiot doctors needed clarification, there was this:

59AER24-1 Medical Records Procedures for Treatment of Premature Rupture of Membranes and Other Life Threatening Conditions.
(3) The treatment of an ectopic pregnancy is not an abortion and shall not be reported pursuant to Rule 59A-9.034. The treating physician shall document the treatment in the patient's medical record.
(4) The treatment of a trophoblastic tumor is not an abortion and shall not be reported pursuant to Rule 59A-9.034. The treating physician shall document the treatment in the patient's medical record.
Rulemaking Authority 395.1055 FS. Law Implemented 390.0112, 395.3015 FS. History"New 5-1-24.

#5 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2025-06-23 08:36 PM | Reply | Flag:
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Why should medical doctors be reading legal documents? Are they lawyers?
Or do cops just expect *everyone* to inherently understand the the nuances of right-wing lawfare?
This is why you don't talk to cops without a lawyer. Dips like Miranda."

I agree with MirandA, A DOCTOR TREATING A ATIENT WITH POTENTIALLY LIFE YHREATENING conditions shold not need to have a lawyer in the operating room assisting and overseeing what the doctor does to save their patient's life. Bottom line; the Legislature should not be oresuming to practice medicime through laws designed to pander to extreme right wing Christion voters!
Abortion should be a decision made by the patient and her doctor and evweyone else should minf their own God damned business!

#11 | Posted by danni at 2025-06-24 06:05 AM | Reply

"(3) The treatment of an ectopic pregnancy is not an abortion and shall not be reported pursuant to Rule 59A-9.034."

Of course it's an abortion. It absolutely kills the fetus.

Any medical doctor who aborted an ectopic pregnancy would testify that they provided abortion, regardless of what the law states.

We don't know why you can't acknowledge that fact.

You have a weird hang-up whereby you think if you tell a doctor it's okay to murder certain babies, you think they should believe you, but you're neither a lawyer or a doctor.

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-24 07:15 AM | Reply

You're a cop.

You are trained to lie to people, to try to get them to admit guilt.

That's all you are doing with your "command voice" posts, quoting a law you don't even understand.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-24 07:20 AM | Reply

Maybe when the malpractice lawsuits start paying out, they will figure out they can comply with the law and keep their patients from dying at the same time.
#10 | Posted by Miranda7

Completely backwards.

You think a Florida jury will punish a doctor for NOT killing a fetus, when abortion is illegal in Florida.

See, this is what I mean about you've been trained to lie to people.

It really makes it impossible to discuss the issues with you because you're already looking past the issues to the imaginary outcomes that just aren't supported by law or by human nature or by how businesses operate.

Your reassurances about the law fall as flat as a police officer who tells a woman not to worry because there's A restraining order against her abusive husband. Like that's any sort of guarantee.

You try to exploit people's naievete.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-24 07:27 AM | Reply

Anyone who graduates from medical skill without learning that an ectopic pregnancy is a life threatening emergency deserves to lose their medical license. But just in case those idiot doctors needed clarification, there was this:

The treatment of an ectopic pregnancy is not an abortion and shall not be reported

#5 | Posted by Miranda7

Easy for you to say, but why would any medical procedure need to be reported? Why should a doctor have to worry about losing their license and being charged with a crime when they're busy with a life threatening emergency?

Remember, the same Republicans who made these laws are same Republicans who believe women and doctors can be charged for miscarriages.

#15 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2025-06-24 01:09 PM | Reply

It's funny anyone believes republicans care about nuance.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-06-24 01:11 PM | Reply

The treatment of an ectopic pregnancy is not an abortion and shall not be reported
#5 | Posted by Miranda7

One could read this to mean that it is illegal to treat ectopic pregnancy with abortion:

"The treatment of an ectopic pregnancy is not an abortion. Instead, let nature run its course."

Do you really not see how it could be interpreted that way? Really?

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-24 01:46 PM | Reply

#18 you all want this SOOOOOO badly to be unclear, but it's not.

even in legalese it's pretty plain language that treating an ectopic pregnancy will not be considered an abortion, and doesn't need to be reported as one.

Twist it around all you like, it's what the doctors that vote left are doing by pretending they're afraid of this, but it's political theater and pretty disgusting.

#18 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2025-06-24 03:04 PM | Reply

"even in legalese it's pretty plain language that treating an ectopic pregnancy will not be considered an abortion, and doesn't need to be reported as one."

You're really not getting it, and I know you're not a dummy, so I'll point out a few things.

What CPT code do they use for this medical procedure?
The same one as for an abortion.

Put a doctor on the stand under oath, ask them if this procedure was an abortion.
The true answer is: Yes, that is the medical procedure known as abortion, regardless of what any statute might indicate.

You really gonna deny all of that is true, Smart guy?
Really?

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-24 03:37 PM | Reply

it's political theater and pretty disgusting.
#18 | Posted by kwrx25

You're right, though of course the political theater is coming from the guys who re-defined baby murder to make certain kinds of baby murder legal.

Go on, KWRX25. Deny that terminating an ectopic pregnancy ends a human life.

You live in a Clown World of your own choosing.

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-24 03:40 PM | Reply

the left scared medical professionals by stressing that they could face criminal charges.

The criminal charges only exist because the right made it illegal for women to receive medical treatment for removal of an inseminated egg.

Kat Cammack is a fat moron and should be forced to carry her child until it kills her.

Just like Republicans want.

#21 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-06-24 03:51 PM | Reply

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