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A former US Army Special Forces officer, who resigned from his role at the controversial Israeli and US-backed Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) last month, has said that an emaciated child was shot dead by Israeli forces ...

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Amir walked 12km to receive a meagre allotment of aid, only to be fatally shot, Anthony Aguilar says.

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-- Al Jazeera English (@aljazeera.com) Jul 31, 2025 at 12:30 PM

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"He kissed me, and he said thank you in English, thank you. And he collected his items, and he walked back to the group," he said.

"Then he was shot at with pepper spray, tear gas, stun grenades and bullets shot at his feet [and then] in the air, and he runs away scared, and the IDF [Israeli army] were shooting at the crowd.

"They're shooting into this crowd and Palestinians - civilians, human beings - are dropping to the ground, getting shot. And Amir was one of them."

#1 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-07-30 11:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Maybe his parents and grandparents shouldn't have been born in a camp.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-30 11:57 PM | Reply

You're a f*&^ed up human being who utterly lacks perspective if you take sides in this blood bath.

I think the pro-Israeli side is currently winning the monster competition as they justify slowly murdering children by starvation.

I mean, look at the image here

www.middleeasteye.net

You're subhuman if you look at that and think it's ok. Doesn't matter the justification.

You are subhuman s*&^ if you think that is ok.

#3 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-31 12:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"I mean, look at the image here"

Look at the right side of the picture where the image of that poor boy's brother is blurry. Does his brother look emaciated to you?

"Jaime Kirzner-Roberts
@jaimekr
The
@nytimes
admits the emaciated boy they splashed on their front page as proof' of famine in Gaza was actually suffering from a serious medical condition " which is why his family all look healthy.

Exploiting a child's illness to push a political narrative is reprehensible."

Here is a better picture:

x.com

#4 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-31 12:34 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

Don't mindlessly buy into propaganda.

#5 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-31 12:35 AM | Reply | Funny: 3

The existence of the famine and genocide is not propaganda.

Denying that is happening is morally equivalent to denying the holocaust. Even those -------- who deny the holocaust can rely on the fact that it happened decades ago. There is zero justification for denying the reality of what is happening in Gaza, today.

#6 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-07-31 12:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Speaking of propaganda.

the x that our resident liar posted is from an Israel propagandist. Just look at her twitter feed

too ------- funny

#7 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-07-31 12:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Don't mindlessly buy into propaganda.

#5 | Posted by BellRinger

I don't mindlessly believe anything you piece of s*&^. That that child has medical issues doesn't excuse his condition at the hands of the Israelis. If reporters can find him, so can IDF medics/soldiers who can them call for a med evac. They're not.

So f(** you. Go ---- die you worthless piece of s(*&.

#8 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-31 01:07 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 4

"I don't mindlessly believe anything you piece of s*&^."

I just caught you doing just that. Sack up and admit it.

#9 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-31 01:13 AM | Reply

No, dumbf*&^, you didn't.

Is that child severely malnourished? Yes or no.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-31 01:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You guys read WAY too much into things. You both cited the same story as an example and your sources both admitted key facts. I pointed it out to you as a courtesy and you both go into a blood rage over it.

#11 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-31 01:15 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

"Is that child severely malnourished? Yes or no.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-31 01:13 AM | Reply"

I don't do yes or no questions. Is his malnourishment due to a lack of caloric intake or his pre-existing medical condition, or both?

In the pictures I've seen, the rest of his family certainly appears to be well nourished. So, why is he the only one in his family who is severely malnourished?

#12 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-31 01:19 AM | Reply

I pointed it out to you as a courtesy and you both go into a blood rage over it.

#11 | Posted by BellRinger

You pointed out minutiae to justify being a complete sack of s*&^.

don't do yes or no questions.

oh, suddenly when justifying the murder of children you're all in to nuance.

Is his malnourishment due to a lack of caloric intake or his pre-existing medical condition, or both?

that's the point you're failing to grasp, s*&&heap. It doesn't matter. Letting that child die any any of those circumstances is abhorrent.

In the pictures I've seen, the rest of his family certainly appears to be well nourished. So, why is he the only one in his family who is severely malnourished?

#12 | Posted by BellRinger

You have neither the information needed nor the expertise to analyze it to make that call.

You're just a piece of subhuman s*&( grasping at narrative straws.

I hate to say it, but you're the first poster here who I'm truly repulsed by. This is most definitely one of the most memorable conversations in a negative way I've had here.

Congrats, you piece of s*&^.

#13 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-31 02:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

I hate to say it, but you're the first poster here who I'm truly repulsed by. This is most definitely one of the most memorable conversations in a negative way I've had here.

And I suspect more of your Trumper brethren will soon join you as they also begin justifying awful things happening to children because they belong to a particular group you bigots have been taught to hate.

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-31 09:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I hate to say it, but you're the first poster here who I'm truly repulsed by."

What's weird is you didn't have this reaction when he bragged about giving his wife the Dutch Oven back when he was named JeffJ.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-31 09:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So f(** you. Go ---- die you worthless piece of s(*&.

#8 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-31 01:07 AM | Reply

You're so repulsive!!! I'm truly repulsed.

LOL

#16 | Posted by eberly at 2025-07-31 09:42 AM | Reply

"I hate to say it,...."

I think you truly get off saying it.

If you were remotely telling the truth, you would have plonked Bell a long time ago.

But you can't.....you're NOT repulsed, you're not offended. You're flat out lying.

You're literally excited.

Bell is the reason why you come to this place so often. You look for him. you follow him. You desire him and these exchanges.

It's 100% obvious.

#17 | Posted by eberly at 2025-07-31 09:45 AM | Reply

#17 Plonking is for Cowards. I still read everyone's posts.

Don't you?

Engaging with -------- is bracing. It keeps one's anger and moral clarity fresh.

Surrendering the field is Not Brave, not Prudent,not even self preserving.

It's just letting -------- blather without fighting back.

Cowardice.

#18 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-07-31 10:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#17 lol

The only people I have plonked are old timers who aren't here anymore.

First, plonking is for p^%#ies.

Second, it makes threads too disjointed when there are replies to ghost posts or one sided conversations that don't make any sense. It messes up the flow of threads.

Try again, sport.

#19 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-31 11:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Don't mindlessly buy into propaganda.
#5 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-31 12:35 AM

"It's an entire nation out there that's responsible. It's not true, this rhetoric about civilians who are not aware and not involved. It's absolutely not true, and we will fight until we break their backbone." - Isaac Herzog, October 2024

"A complete siege - no food, no water, no electricity. We are fighting human animals." - Yoav Gallant, October 2024

"The Israeli have one common goal: erasing the Gaza strip from the face of the Earth." - Nissim Vaturi

#20 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-07-31 11:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) " Fighting "human animals." Making Gaza a "slaughterhouse." "Erasing the Gaza Strip from the face of the earth."

Such inflammatory rhetoric is a key component of South Africa's case accusing Israel of genocide at the U.N. world court, a charge that Israel denies. South Africa says the language -- in comments by Israeli leaders, soldiers and entertainers about Palestinians in Gaza since Hamas' Oct. 7 attack sparked war -- is proof of Israel's intent to commit genocide.
apnews.com

#21 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-31 11:37 AM | Reply

www.middleeasteye.net
You're subhuman if you look at that and think it's ok. Doesn't matter the justification.
You are subhuman s*&^ if you think that is ok.
#3 | Posted by jpw

It's hilarious how quickly the pro-Hamasers willingly but into terrorists propaganda. As Bellringer said, the other kid in the photo is well-fed. Most of the propaganda photos show a kid, with no parents in the picture. You know why? Because the parents aren't starving.

These kids have other illnesses. Mostly genetic. You know why? Because Palestinians have one of the highest rates of cousin-marriage in the world, with all the genetic joys that come along with that for their offspring. But it's the Jews fault that Palestinians have family trees that don't have branches.

#22 | Posted by censored at 2025-07-31 11:48 AM | Reply

See bellsh^++er, another scumbag showed up!

You're not alone!

Btw dunbf^*%, keep your false dichotomy bulls^%#. I'm not pro-Hamas.

#23 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-31 11:56 AM | Reply

See bellsh^++er, another scumbag showed up!
I'm a scumbag because I called out a clearly false claim attributed to a staged photo? A photo that you offered as proof of how terrible anti-Hamasers are?

Btw dunbf^*%, keep your false dichotomy bulls^%#. I'm not pro-Hamas.
#23 | Posted by jpw

OK, then did you view that photo with the slightest bit of objectivity or skepticism, considering all that it showed and did not show? Or did you buy into it wholesale and just go with whatever line the rag parroted? Like the NYT when it published a photo of an allegedly starving Palestinian kid, but didn't ask why no one else in the family looked like they had missed a meal? But I'm the "dunbf^*%."

Willful ignorance targeted at the Jews. In defense of the Palestinians, who still support terrorist atrocities against Israeli civilians to this day. Which is why the Jews need Israel, because they will otherwise be wiped from the face of the Earth while people stand by and claim they are not pro-Hamas and that both sides are the same.

#24 | Posted by censored at 2025-07-31 12:19 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Palestinians have one of the highest rates of cousin-marriage in the world"

Israel has spent the past thirty years ensuring Palestinians have to live under the Hamas terror regime.

#25 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-31 12:23 PM | Reply

www.middleeasteye.net
You're subhuman if you look at that and think it's ok. Doesn't matter the justification.
You are subhuman s*&^ if you think that is ok.
#3 | Posted by jpw
It's hilarious how quickly the pro-Hamasers willingly but into terrorists propaganda. As Bellringer said, the other kid in the photo is well-fed. Most of the propaganda photos show a kid, with no parents in the picture. You know why? Because the parents aren't starving.
These kids have other illnesses. Mostly genetic. You know why? Because Palestinians have one of the highest rates of cousin-marriage in the world, with all the genetic joys that come along with that for their offspring. But it's the Jews fault that Palestinians have family trees that don't have branches.
#22 | Posted by censored at 2025-07-31 11:48 AM

So, you consider this a eugenics program, but not using starvation.

111 people were killed by IDF in the last 24 hours. 91 were getting food. 800 people were injured.

Your racism aside, if you can't bear to know the facts of this genocide, watch any video interviews and see the record of devastation I suppose it's easier to blame "pro-Hamasers", right?

Zionists are diseased.

#26 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-07-31 12:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Which is why the Jews need Israel, because they will otherwise be wiped from the face of the Earth"

Setting aside that Jews have existed on this earth as long as any other group of people you could name -- and far longer than many that have been eradicated.

By your logic, Palestinians need Palestine, because they will otherwise be wiped from the face of the earth.

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-31 12:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Hamas has more Credibility than the Likud.

Is more consistent and coherent than the lying and stealing Terrorist Government of Israel.

Israel is a land of Violent Loons.

Giving them Arms is Stupid.

Give Hamas Arms and they could push the Israelis out of Gaza. Even with no Air Cover.

Israel is not the Jaugernaut their propaganda portrays.

Two years of total war and they still can't defeat starving poorly armed militias with no Air Support and no State behind them.

So they Murder Childeren to Feel Tough.

That's not tough. It's Foolish and will destroy Israel over time.

Sinwar knew the Enemy.

He knew their Extreme and Enthusiastic Bloodlust would be unleashed and this would Repulse the World Community.

Israel may not survive their own Repulsive and Evil Actions.

The Squatter Colony needs public approval.

They can't make it alone.

Alone...they would be Destroyed.

#28 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-07-31 12:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So, you consider this a eugenics program, but not using starvation.
Wut? You guys want to eff your cousins. Not my business if you go to family reunions to meet chicks in whatever sheethole nations or states allow that sort of inbreeding.

Zionists are diseased.
#26 | Posted by redlightrobot

But I'm the eugenecist?

#29 | Posted by censored at 2025-07-31 12:28 PM | Reply

Exploiting a child's illness to push a political narrative is reprehensible.
#4 | Posted by BellRinger

Yeah it's a shame we have Megan's Law too.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-31 12:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Exploiting a child's illness to push a political narrative is reprehensible.
#4 | Posted by BellRinger

Yeah it's a shame we have Megan's Law too.

#31 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-31 12:29 PM | Reply

But I'm the eugenecist?
#29 | Posted by censored

Zionism is colonialism.
All colonialism is rooted in eugenics.

Racial conceptions of Jewish identity in Zionism
In the late 19th century, amid attempts to apply science to notions of race, some of the founders of Zionism (such as Max Nordau) sought to reformulate conceptions of Jewishness in terms of racial identity and the "race science" of the time. They believed that this concept would allow them to build a new framework for collective Jewish identity,[1] and thought that biology might provide "proof" for the "ethnonational myth of common descent" from the biblical land of Israel.[2][3] Countering antisemitic claims that Jews were both aliens and a racially inferior people who needed to be segregated or expelled, these Zionists drew on and appropriated elements from various race theories,[4][5][a] to argue that only a Jewish national home could enable the physical regeneration of the Jewish people and a renaissance of pride in their ancient cultural traditions
en.m.wikipedia.org

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-31 12:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

So, you consider this a eugenics program, but not using starvation.
Wut? You guys want to eff your cousins. Not my business if you go to family reunions to meet chicks in whatever sheethole nations or states allow that sort of inbreeding.
Zionists are diseased.
#26 | Posted by redlightrobot
But I'm the eugenecist?
#29 | Posted by censored at 2025-07-31 12:28 PM

GZ, listen closely: YOU MATTER. YOUR VIEWS MATTER. NO DIFFERENT FROM ANYONE.

Zionism is a failed political project, not a race.

WAKE THE F UP.

Your excuses are repetitive, ignorant and racist.

#33 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-07-31 12:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Sick ----.

#34 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-07-31 12:39 PM | Reply

Your excuses are repetitive, ignorant and racist.
#33 | Posted by redlightrobot

It's racist to say Muslims like to marry their cousins? I bet if you look at the stats really carefully, and squint you're eyes just right, you might see a pattern:

Inbreeding by Country 2025
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/inbreeding-by-country

Cosang-Marriage

#35 | Posted by censored at 2025-07-31 12:58 PM | Reply

Muslims are subhuman so it's okay to starve their children to death.

-The shorter Censored.

#36 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-31 12:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

#24 yawn.

You know what should be done? That child should be evacuated regardless of the cause of their condition. That they're left to lie in a rubble heap being actively bombed and destroyed is horrific.

So GFY and your hyperbolic excuses. S*^%bag.

#37 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-31 01:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

But I'm the eugenecist?

#29 | POSTED BY CENSORED

You are the only one justifying the slow, agonizing death of a child.

If you don't want the deserved scorn and accurate descriptions of your depravity, don't be such a repulsive s^%#heap of a human being.

#38 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-31 01:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Muslims are subhuman so it's okay to starve their children to death.
-The shorter Censored.
#36 | Posted by Alexandrite

Lol! I said nothing of the kind. But many of the photos show kids suffering from non-dietary illnesses. I've never said that makes them subhuman. Although I'm sure some Palestinians might have those feelings based on the company they keep.
H-and-Pal

#39 | Posted by censored at 2025-07-31 01:29 PM | Reply

You are the only one justifying the slow, agonizing death of a child.
#38 | Posted by jpw

Sure I did. Right after I made the Palestinians start this war on October 7th by hunting down 1,200 Israeli civilian men, women, and children to rape and murder.

Palestinians (when it's not a Jewish kid they're murdering in cold blood or kidnapping to hold for a year or two):

#40 | Posted by censored at 2025-07-31 01:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Right after I made the Palestinians start this war on October 7th"

This war of conquest was started by Zionists in 1947.

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-31 01:34 PM | Reply

Sure I did. Right after I made the Palestinians start this war on October 7th by hunting down 1,200 Israeli civilian men, women, and children to rape and murder.

Yeah, you are. Right before you show you're wholly incapable of honest statements in the topic.

(Hint-it didn't start Oct 7)

#42 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-31 01:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" You know what should be done? That child should be evacuated regardless of the cause of their condition. That they're left to lie in a rubble heap being actively bombed and destroyed is horrific.

So GFY and your hyperbolic excuses. S*^%bag.

#37 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2025-07-31 01:21 PM | FLAG: "

Pretty sure Gaza has a hospital.

Like I said, you are pissed at being called out for swallowing propaganda.

#43 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-31 01:36 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Wrong again, s^*bag.

Calling scumbag pieces of s%^* out for being scumbag pieces of %^* isn't anger. It's a service.

#44 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-31 01:43 PM | Reply

www.who.int

Go back to your village, idiot.

#45 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-31 01:52 PM | Reply

Want some tissue?

You are a Twoothy who doesn't know how to type.

#46 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-31 01:53 PM | Reply

" You know what should be done? That child should be evacuated regardless of the cause of their condition. That they're left to lie in a rubble heap being actively bombed and destroyed is horrific.
So GFY and your hyperbolic excuses. S*^%bag.
#37 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2025-07-31 01:21 PM | FLAG: "
Pretty sure Gaza has a hospital.
Like I said, you are pissed at being called out for swallowing propaganda.
#43 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-07-31 01:36 PM

Prove this, please.

From what is currently known there are no functioning hospitals.

I'm uncertain if any are actually standing whatsoever, similarly all universities.

92% of residential has been destroyed and is unlivable.

70% of Gaza is flattened.

We need international war journalists allowed access rather than trust IDF spokepeople.

#47 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-07-31 01:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Jeff showing his lack of empathy

#48 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-07-31 02:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

From what is currently known there are no functioning hospitals.
#47 | Posted by redlightrobot

Someone should tell this guy:
"according to the director of Gaza's Al-Shifa Hospital."
July 30, 2025, 12:39 PM,
abcnews.go.com

You can find references to other Gaza hospitals by doing an Internet search and sorting news articles by recent. You might have to use a non-Hamas search engine to find those results, so you might be out of luck there.

#49 | Posted by censored at 2025-07-31 02:16 PM | Reply

-Second, it makes threads too disjointed when there are replies to ghost posts or one sided conversations that don't make any sense. It messes up the flow of threads.

Plonk was a poor choice of words. My bad.

I meant that you should ignore him.

I find 2 posters to be repulsive here. -------- and Legallycucked. But everyone ignores them so they don't mess up the flow of threads.

Bellringer? Not so easy to do that. Not that you want to anyway.

You'll take any Bellringer you can get.

It's quite a display, actually.

#50 | Posted by eberly at 2025-07-31 02:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You know what should be done? That child should be evacuated regardless of the cause of their condition. That they're left to lie in a rubble heap being actively bombed and destroyed is horrific.
So GFY and your hyperbolic excuses. S*^%bag.
#37 | Posted by jpw

So, that's the closest thing you've got to apologizing and admitting you were taken for a fool by that blatantly false propaganda article you posted as proof of anti-Hamaser inhumanity? As opposed to being a willing participant in Hamas's ongoing smear campaign, I mean.

#51 | Posted by censored at 2025-07-31 02:36 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Sure. If you completely ignore everything I wrote to keep your s*&^bag existence content in its silo.

You, like so many others, would find the world making way more sense if you just accepted the fact that you're a giant piece of s&^%.

#52 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-31 03:33 PM | Reply

Sure. If you completely ignore everything I wrote to keep your s*&^bag existence content in its silo. You, like so many others, would find the world making way more sense if you just accepted the fact that you're a giant piece of s&^%.
#52 | Posted by jpw

Thank you for your delightful conversation! As eloquent as it is knowledgeable of worldly affairs.

#53 | Posted by censored at 2025-07-31 04:24 PM | Reply

It's what you should expect when you justify/excuse/deflect the pain, suffering and death of children.

#54 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-31 04:30 PM | Reply

It's what you should expect when you justify/excuse/deflect the pain, suffering and death of children.
#54 | Posted by jpw

Sure! Wait till you find out how the German kids fared under our auspices during and after the war their parents started.

Over 70 Percent of Palestinians Support Hamas's October 7 Terror Attack
www.nationalreview.com
Food in occupied Germany
en.wikipedia.org
Imagine being so pampered and sheltered as to not realize that civilians suffer during ongoing war.

#55 | Posted by censored at 2025-07-31 05:29 PM | Reply

Censored is still pretending the world started turning on October 7.

Hell, who knows, maybe for him it did.

It would explain all his ignorant comments.

#56 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-31 05:34 PM | Reply

Imagine being so pampered and sheltered as to not realize that civilians suffer during ongoing war.
#55 | Posted by censored

Imagine being such a self-absorbed piece of s(*& you continue digging when a normal person would have just shut up.

#57 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-31 05:37 PM | Reply

Imagine being such a self-absorbed piece of s(*& you continue digging when a normal person would have just shut up.
#57 | Posted by jpw

I thought you were here for discussion? I think one of us might misunderstand the purpose of a comments section.

You should find an empty room and mumble your Stuart Smalley self-affirmations there. Maybe shout them to get the full echo chamber effect. You'll probably find the results more satisfactory.

#58 | Posted by censored at 2025-07-31 05:53 PM | Reply

"President Trump said on Thursday that the humanitarian crisis in Gaza will end if Hamas releases the hostages and surrenders.

Why it matters: The comment from the president marks a change in tone from others he made in recent days that put the onus on Israel to improve the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

What he is saying: "The fastest way to end the Humanitarian Crises in Gaza is for Hamas to SURRENDER AND RELEASE THE HOSTAGES!!!," Trump wrote on his Truth Social account.

State of play: Trump's post was published as his envoy Steve Witkoff met with Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu."

www.axios.com

#59 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-31 05:53 PM | Reply

"President Trump said on Thursday that the humanitarian crisis in Gaza will end if Hamas releases the hostages and surrenders.
Why it matters: The comment from the president marks a change in tone from others he made in recent days that put the onus on Israel to improve the humanitarian crisis in Gaza."
#59 | Posted by Corky

There's a thought. Palestinians want the war to go on but not suffer the ramifications of that war they started.

#60 | Posted by censored at 2025-07-31 05:56 PM | Reply

#58 | Posted by censored

I am having a discussion.

That people who justify/deflect/excuse the suffering and death of children are bottom feeding s*&^bags.

I feel like I've been quite clear on that fact.

#61 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-31 05:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There was no excuse for Oct 7, nor is there one for Israeli's over the top reaction... that just so happened to be what Trump's Evil Israeli Twin needed to stay in Office.

Those guys understand each other.

#62 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-31 06:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- Palestinians want

Surely you meant that's what Hamas' Oligarch Leaders in Qatar that are still left want.

The Palestinian people not so much.

Of course, Settlers would have loose their gub'mint income bulldozing Palestinian homes, and sometimes murdering the neighbors, but all Peace comes at a cost, I s'pose.

#63 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-31 06:08 PM | Reply

ramifications of that war they started.

IT doesn't matter who started it at this point.

#64 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-31 06:10 PM | Reply

I am having a discussion. That people who justify/deflect/excuse the suffering and death of children are bottom feeding s*&^bags. I feel like I've been quite clear on that fact.
#61 | Posted by jpw

Sure, I like unicorns and fairy dust too.

Unfortunately, in the real world civilians suffer in the wars their leaders start, particularly when they support those leaders and don't want the war to end and their leaders rely on civilians as shields and as a direct military strategy.

Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar believes Palestinian deaths are necessary sacrifices
nypost.com
Surely you meant that's what Hamas' Oligarch Leaders in Qatar that are still left want.
The Palestinian people not so much.
#63 | Posted by Corky

Then someone should tell the Palestinians they don't want it.

Over 70 Percent of Palestinians Support Hamas's October 7 Terror Attack
www.nationalreview.com
IT doesn't matter who started it at this point.
#64 | Posted by Alexandrite

OK, does it matter that apparently the participants don't want to end it? At least not enough to lay down their arms?

#65 | Posted by censored at 2025-07-31 06:16 PM | Reply

- that war they started.

I've seen fights before where some little dumbass started a stupid fight because he was egged on into it, maybe even thought he had to prove himself or something... and at some point the bystanders pulled the bigger guy offa him.
There's no good guys in the leadership of either side, but the People of each side are getting screwed badly.

Which we here should take as an example of what happens in far rwing nationalist authoritarian led governments.

And is happening here now, too.

#66 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-31 06:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A poll doesn't make genocide Okay.

#67 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-07-31 06:17 PM | Reply

That poll is from March 21, 2024.

I bet now Hamas is even more underwater there than Trump is here.

#68 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-31 06:20 PM | Reply

That poll is from March 21, 2024. I bet now Hamas is even more underwater there than Trump is here.
#68 | Posted by Corky

You are correct sir!

For the fifth time since October 7, we asked respondents from the West Bank and the Gaza Strip what they thought of Hamas' decision to launch the October 7 attack, whether it was correct or incorrect: 50%, compared to 54% seven months ago, in September 2024, and 71% 14 months ago, in March 2024, said it was the right decision. The decrease in this percentage came from the West Bank and Gaza Strip, where it stands today at 59% in the West Bank, a decrease of 5 percentage points, and 38% in the Gaza Strip, compared to 39% seven months ago.
6 May 2025,
pcpsr.org
At this rate, we might have peace in six or seven years.

A poll doesn't make genocide Okay.
#67 | Posted by Alexandrite

Agreed! Let me know when you see one. Based on facts, and not terrorist and NYT lies about one inexplicably starving kid in a family of weightlifters.

#69 | Posted by censored at 2025-07-31 06:30 PM | Reply

So... about half the Palestinian people don't now support Hamas?

Good to know.

#70 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-31 07:21 PM | Reply

A poll doesn't make genocide Okay.

#67 | Posted by Alexandrite

No, but believing their views are popular will help an awful person maintain their illusion that they're not a reprehensible POS.

#71 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-31 07:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So... about half the Palestinian people don't now support Hamas?
Good to know.
#70 | Posted by Corky

Yeah, better than Trump's numbers here. And he runs all three branches of our government.

No, but believing their views are popular will help an awful person maintain their illusion that they're not a reprehensible POS.
#71 | Posted by jpw

Sometimes a group of people decide to do horrible things and celebrate in the streets when it happens:

Palestinians In Gaza And The West Bank Celebrate On October 7, Hand Out Sweets, Fire Guns In The Air, Following Hamas's Invasion And Massacre Of Israeli Civilians
www.memri.org
And then horrible things befall those people as the wrath of Allah pays them a visit in the form of a smitten Gaza.

The Palestinians want all the fun stuff that goes will attacking Jews, like rape and murder. But they don't want any of the negatives. And I'm the reprehensible POS, not the terrorist supporters who hide behind the children.

Here, watch these Palestinian children eat dirt:
www.youtube.com

You'll probably swallow that hammy acting hook, line, and sinker as well. Because it tells you the story you want to hear.

#72 | Posted by censored at 2025-07-31 07:54 PM | Reply

Having a party is pretty much the opposite of a horrible thing.

#73 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-31 08:07 PM | Reply

You've overplayed Oct 7, dumbs*^%.

So have the Israelis.

#74 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-31 08:10 PM | Reply


A poll doesn't make genocide Okay.
#67 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

Hamas isn't committing genocide, their killing/starving their own people.

I have already shown the UN statistic where 87% of their own supply trucks are bring hijacked, ie only 13% make it to their intended destination.

You can guess who is doing it.

#75 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-07-31 08:27 PM | Reply

I've seen fights before where some little dumbass started a stupid fight because he was egged on into it,

Oct 6th there was a ceasefire.

#76 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-07-31 08:28 PM | Reply

Oct 6th there was a ceasefire.
#76 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

What does that mean?

" ... at least 208 Palestinians killed between January 1 and October 6, including 42 children, making it the deadliest year on record in the West Bank before the Hamas attack."

www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org

You're an ignorant child.

Israelis and Palestinians have been killing each other for decades.

The world didn't start in October 7th.

#77 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-31 08:36 PM | Reply

You've overplayed Oct 7, dumbs*^%. So have the Israelis.
#74 | Posted by jpw

I wonder if you'd be able to go a month without writing an ad hominem attack. My money is on no.

Anyhow, back to your point about "overplaying" October 7th, is Hamas no longer in control? If Israel left today, would Hamas be back in a year or two to pull similar shenanigans?

You think this is about revenge, and I'm sure it is to some Israelis. I think I see it as it is intended by those conducting the campaign, regime change. And it looks like the Arab nations have come on board:

Arab States Call on Hamas to Disarm
drudge.com

I'd say ten more years of this at the most, and then Hamas will no longer be calling the shots, Israel can take Gaza as reparations, and Trump Towers Gaza can open six months later. But I've been accused of being an optimist. So lets say thirty more years, on the outside.

#78 | Posted by censored at 2025-07-31 08:39 PM | Reply

The world didn't start in October 7th.
#77 | Posted by ClownShack

Oct 7 taught him Israel will never be safe as long as any Palestinian remains in Gaza or the West Bank.

His Jihad entered a new phase on Oct 7. He is fully committed to ethnic cleansinh the Jewish ancestral homeland.

Israel will be free of Palestinians, from the river to the sea.

#79 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-07-31 08:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I'd say ten more years of this at the most,
#78 | POSTED BY CENSORED

Ten more years of genocide?

I don't see it.

Israel will starve the remaining Palestinians to death long before then.

Besides, Trump wants his towers up before 2028.

#80 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-31 08:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- Yeah, better than Trump's numbers

Willing to bet they aren't in Gaza today.

#81 | Posted by Corky at 2025-07-31 08:47 PM | Reply

#24

There are more jews in NY than in IsNOTreal. jews will be fine. And as far as I'm concerned that's a good thing, of the islamojudeochristian religions they're generally the nicest, never had one try to convert me - unlike christians. I consider many of them friends.

The zionist entity has willfully forfeit its right to exist. If jews want to stay under Palestinian governance, that's fine and I would be all about protecting their human rights. But the state of IsNOTreal should be erased from the map. Apartheid IsNOTreal should have been treated like apartheid South Africa, genocidal IsNOTreal should be treated like Nazi Germany, forced to unconditionally surrender.

#82 | Posted by DarkVader at 2025-07-31 09:11 PM | Reply

If jews want to stay under Palestinian governance, that's fine and I would be all about protecting their human rights.

Yes, because if there's one thing the Muslims are known for, it's their tolerance of other people's beliefs when their colonizing their land.

Muslim-Conquests

[Israel] should be treated like Nazi Germany, forced to unconditionally surrender.
#82 | Posted by DarkVader

OK, you and the Palestinians should get right on that. Right after they finish whining about their imaginary starving children.

#83 | Posted by censored at 2025-07-31 10:08 PM | Reply

Censored is going to be blown away by what Christian colonialism did to the world.

Religion, it's a hell of a drug!!!

#84 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-07-31 10:24 PM | Reply

"Yes, because if there's one thing the Muslims are known for, it's their tolerance of other people's beliefs when their colonizing their land."

Are Jews more tolerant when colonizing their land of Eretz Israel?
Let's take Gaza as Exhibit A and the West Bank as Exhibit B.
Show us the tolerance and compassion.
And a body count.

#85 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-01 11:48 AM | Reply

When you have one group claiming title to land granted directly by God there can be no reasonable outcome for the people who have lived on that land for 1000 years. The United States can't be responsible for the actions of Israel but we should be able to expect our government to loudly object to the actions of the Israeli governmemt when they result in starvation of children and outright murder of civillians by the Israeli military! President Trump did talk as if he is going to stand up to the lies Netanyahoo a few days ago but he needs to be more forceful and make it clear that the United States can and will end all support for Israel if the human rights of the Palestinians are not respected. I won't hold my breath until Trump finds the courage to do that but if he can't then he should just resign as President.

#86 | Posted by danni at 2025-08-01 12:11 PM | Reply

" You've overplayed Oct 7, dumbs*^%.

So have the Israelis.

#74 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2025-07-31 08:10 PM | FLAG: "

Israel's response to 10/7 should have been:

"Thank you sir, may I have another." - JPW

#87 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-08-01 12:11 PM | Reply

Israel's response to 10/7 should have been:
Killing 50,000 civilians and counting.
#87 | Posted by BellRinger

#88 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-01 12:25 PM | Reply

Israel's response to 10/7 should have been:

"Thank you sir, may I have another." - JPW

#87 | Posted by BellRinger

When you are losing a debate so badly that you have to assign false quotes to your opponent...

#89 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-08-01 12:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Israel's response to 10/7 should have been:
"Thank you sir, may I have another." - JPW
#87 | Posted by BellRinger

How many starving Gaza children have to be shot and killed before 10/7 is avenged by Israel?

#90 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-08-01 01:14 PM | Reply

"imaginary starving children."
#83 | Posted by censored

There is substantial and credible evidence from multiple authoritative sources that children in Gaza are indeed suffering from severe malnutrition and starvation in 2025, and these children are not imaginary.

- The World Health Organization (WHO) reports a sharp increase in malnutrition-related deaths in Gaza in July 2025, including 24 children under five who died showing clear signs of severe wasting upon arrival at health facilities. Nearly one in five children under five in Gaza City is acutely malnourished, with many admitted for treatment of severe acute malnutrition. Hospitals and specialized treatment centers are overwhelmed, supply shortages are critical, and the health system is near collapse due to ongoing conflict and blockades[1].

- UN-backed food security groups report that famine thresholds have been met across Gaza, with thousands of children malnourished and hunger-related deaths rising. More than 20,000 children sought treatment for acute malnutrition between April and July 2025, thousands classified as severely malnourished. Gaza hospitals are noting a rise in hunger-related child deaths, with at least 16 children under five reported dead from hunger-related causes since mid-July[2][3].

- The UN World Food Programme and other UN agencies warn that Gaza is on the brink of famine, with more than 500,000 people enduring famine-like conditions and malnutrition levels quadrupling among children under five in Gaza City. The crisis is fueled by conflict, infrastructure collapse, and severe humanitarian aid restrictions[3][4].

- UNICEF and other humanitarian groups also confirm the grim reality of widespread starvation and malnutrition among children in Gaza, describing children as "starving to death" and facing a rapidly worsening nutrition crisis that is greater than ever since the conflict began[6][7][8].

These reports come from independent international health and humanitarian organizations closely monitoring Gaza's situation. They document measurable evidence such as hospital admissions, malnutrition screenings, death tolls with clear physical signs of starvation, and famine-level food insecurity indicators. This overwhelmingly confirms that the starving children in Gaza are real and that the humanitarian crisis is severe and ongoing.

There is no credible reason or evidence to believe that the starvation and malnutrition among children in Gaza are fabricated or imaginary. They are a documented and tragic consequence of the conflict, blockade, and restricted humanitarian access in the region.

[1] www.who.int
[2] www.npr.org
[3] www.wfp.org
[4] news.un.org
[5] www.unrwa.org
[6] www.unicefusa.org
[7] www.unicef.org
[8] www.unicef.org

#91 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-08-01 01:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Is that child severely malnourished? Yes or no.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2025-07-31 01:13 AM | Reply | Flag

Cerebral Palsy. I'm pretty sure the NYT already walked this one back.

#92 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-08-01 04:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How many starving Gaza children have to be shot and killed before 10/7 is avenged by Israel?
#90 | Posted by rstybeach11

If you think the point of military campaigns begins and ends at vengeance, you might have a point.

There is substantial and credible evidence from multiple authoritative sources that children in Gaza are indeed suffering from severe malnutrition and starvation in 2025, and these children are not imaginary.
#91 | Posted by rstybeach11

Yes, I'm sure the numbers provided by the Hamas Health Ministry are entirely trustworthy.

Maybe the Palestinians should lay down their arms if fighting the war they started is unappealing and they find food supplies are short because they keep using humanitarian supply lines to smuggle weapons. Or maybe return those hostages or their remains as a sign of good faith.

Sure, raping and murdering 1,200 civilian men, women, and children in cold blood may seem like a good time, but war isn't all fun and giggles when that initial buzz wears off.

And I'm not going to let a bloodthirsty populace manipulate me into feeling sorry for them when they have no desire for this to end.

The Palestinians just want to enjoy the upside of raping and murdering innocents while escaping the ramifications as Israel defends itself. To have their hummus and eat it too, if you will.

#93 | Posted by censored at 2025-08-01 05:54 PM | Reply

As far as we know from the Poll you posted, at least half of them may have a great desire for this to end, especially those in Gaza.

Perhaps they should count for something in the decisions about what happens to all Palestinians.

#94 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-01 06:08 PM | Reply

raping and murdering 1,200 civilian men, women, and children in cold blood

I love reading about these 1,200 people.

May their martyrdom be eternal and every Palestinian be murdered and raped in their honor.

#95 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-01 06:34 PM | Reply

As far as we know from the Poll you posted, at least half of them may have a great desire for this to end, especially those in Gaza. Perhaps they should count for something in the decisions about what happens to all Palestinians.
#94 | Posted by Corky

Unfortunately, wars don't automatically end because half the population declares a "whoopsies!"

Just like it took 7,000 Gazans to really put their backs into it to start this ware, it'll take more that 7,000 whines to stop it.

And innocents always suffer in wars, which is a good reason communities shouldn't start them. This one is no different than the ones we have participated in except, unlike our own conduct in warfare, Israel hasn't firebombed Gaza (yet).

#96 | Posted by censored at 2025-08-01 06:35 PM | Reply

This one has been on slow-burn for decades with Settlers backed and paid for home demolitions by a rwing authoritarian nationalist government with Zionist tendencies.

And Hamas and other terrorist organizations are owned and operated by Oligarchs in Qatar who treat their people like trash, take their money, and also take money from Iran and Russia and China.

Not sure where your ------ for Netanyahoo's Mussolini Impression comes from, but I guess I would agree that he does it quite well.

#97 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-01 06:50 PM | Reply

Unfortunately, wars don't automatically end because half the population declares a "whoopsies!"

Actually, they do.

Wars end when one side surrenders.

Genocides continue until the dominant force finishes their objective and decides to stop.

Ask the Native Americans.

The only reason any of them exist today is because European Americas had complete control of the nation and finally got tired of murdering them.

#98 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-01 07:16 PM | Reply

Not sure where your ------ for Netanyahoo's Mussolini Impression comes from
#97 | Posted by Corky

Yeah, I think you misjudge me. Bibi probably needs to go to prison for his corruption.

I just like to seeing the FAAFO educational process in action.

The fact that this was all part of the Palestinians' plan, committing atrocities, crying and then playing victim when struck down by the hand of Allah. When that was the entire point of the Palestinians targeting civilians for slaughter. Except Hamas didn't expect Israel to target them for utter annihilation. Icing on their whiny falafel cake.

Only way to make sure they don't try this again in the near future is for them to enjoy the entirely predictable consequences for their inhuman acts.

Admittedly, the Palestinians are slow learners, so this might take a few repeated administrations. But, as I said, I'm an optimist and I believe even the dullest of students can educate themselves to some degree. I believe in the Palestinians!

#99 | Posted by censored at 2025-08-01 08:15 PM | Reply

= all part of the Palestinians' plan,

Didn't I read somewhere that NuttyY knew all about the Plan and didn't stop it?

Is that right?

#100 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-01 08:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Didn't I read somewhere that NuttyY knew all about the Plan and didn't stop it?
Is that right?
#100 | Posted by Corky

Certainly what the Pro-Hamasers say. Reminds me of when I was a kid and anti-semite classmates used to tell me Hitler was Jewish. All blame must ultimately rest on the Jews in their minds.

As if that would take one bit of guilt off of the actual perpetrators who very much wanted to provoke a response so they could whine about it and play victim, like they are now.

#101 | Posted by censored at 2025-08-01 11:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Sinwar knew the Enemy.

He knew that they would overreact and kill wild numbers of civilians.

So far he's been correct.

Israel is circling the bowl.

They are losing credibility and the perceived moral high ground.

All because they Have to delight in murder and war crimes.

They can't help themselves.

Poor things....

#102 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-08-02 10:04 AM | Reply

On other news ...
The French government has halted all evacuations from Gaza after one of the Palestinians they helped come to France was found to be posting support for terrorism and killing Jews on social media.

France halts all evacuations from Gaza over alleged antisemitic reposts by Palestinian student
www.cnn.com

Palestinians from Gaza = Hamas

Palestinians have been brain washed.

#103 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-08-02 10:22 AM | Reply

#101

Hard to see when your eyes are closed, ain't it?

www.npr.org

#104 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-02 10:39 AM | Reply

From the NPR article:

"Israel falsely thought Hamas was trying to inflame tensions in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, rather than maneuvering to invade Israel from Gaza. Israel had concluded that any major attack would be a multi-front assault from militias throughout the region, not just from Gaza."

"Israel thought its border barrier with Gaza, a system of fences and walls, was more fortified than it actually was."

"Israel had a poor network of spies in Gaza, following a botched intelligence operation in Gaza that Hamas uncovered in 2018. Gaza is a closed-off territory, making it difficult for Israel to recruit sources there."

"Israel had obtained intelligence of Hamas' battle plans in two iterations, once in 2018 and another in 2022, but the agency did not translate it into an actionable threat. A series of signs in the months leading up to the Oct. 7, 2023 attack was dismissed."

They underestimated the threat and got sucker punched.

If you sucker punch somebody, expect to get hit back, even if you hold up a little kid as a shield.

#105 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-08-02 11:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There is no limit to the lengths people will go to rationalize killing enemy civilians in cold blood.

#106 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-02 11:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There is no limit to the lengths people will go to rationalize using civilians as human shields.

#107 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-08-02 11:27 AM | Reply

War is this cynical: If you don't put your bunker deep under the hospital, you are incompetent at war.

#108 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-08-02 11:27 AM | Reply

You're not being cynical. You're being a Nazi.

#109 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-02 11:29 AM | Reply

Didn't I read somewhere that NuttyY knew all about the Plan and didn't stop it?
Is that right?
#100 | Posted by Corky
Certainly what the Pro-Hamasers say. Reminds me of when I was a kid and anti-semite classmates used to tell me Hitler was Jewish. All blame must ultimately rest on the Jews in their minds.
As if that would take one bit of guilt off of the actual perpetrators who very much wanted to provoke a response so they could whine about it and play victim, like they are now.
#101 | Posted by censored at 2025-08-01 11:54 PM

Who raised the young Hitler and why did he have her hometown destroyed once in power?

WHY was he sent to her in the first place?

Biblically, Jesus displayed a similar anger for "chosen people".

The Palestinians are the last regional Judeans and the Israelite are Amalek.

#110 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-08-02 11:36 AM | Reply

"They underestimated the threat"

They created the threat when they exiled the the Palestinians from their homes and put them into camps.

#111 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-02 11:36 AM | Reply

"Reminds me of when I was a kid and anti-semite classmates used to tell me Hitler was Jewish. All blame must ultimately rest on the Jews in their minds."

Sort of like it's okay to kill Palestinian children because Hamas.

#112 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-02 11:38 AM | Reply

Israel will "win" the battle to crush Gaza. They already have.

They are losing the war of hearts and minds with the world at large. I used to like Israel until I was about 30.

By then I realized they were lying , murdering, thieves.

Their compelling story of desert renewal just propaganda to cover a reality of ethnic supremacy and cold blooded murder of people whose only offense was to possess lands the Pigs wanted to steal.

Israel has no more "Right to Exist" than any other Apartheid --------. Which is none.

Israel can't Spin their way out of this.

The scummy little Squatter Colony is going to have to change.

Even if they achieve their objectives in this war they will still be setting themselves up for Ruin later.

I don't think Israel will exist as a "Jewish Supremacist State" for much longer.

They will go the way of Apartheid South Africa or Nazi Germany. Their closest parallels in modern history.

Post Israeli collapse...Palestine could become a fine country.

As long as the EthnoBigots are Gone.

#113 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-08-02 11:58 AM | Reply

#110

"My people are a stiff-necked people." - God

#114 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-02 12:07 PM | Reply

#110
"My people are a stiff-necked people." - God
#114 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-02 12:07 PM

"My love is killing you." - God

#115 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-08-02 12:18 PM | Reply

You don't want to become the enemies of the Jews.

Dashing the babies of enemies against the rocks is what their Holy text tells them to do to be happy.

#116 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-02 12:50 PM | Reply

You're not being cynical. You're being a Nazi.

#109 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-02 11:29 AM | Reply

Godwin would like a word with you.

#117 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-08-02 12:51 PM | Reply

Yigal Amir would like a word with anyone who supports Palestinian equality.

#118 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-02 12:55 PM | Reply

Yigal Amir got to go to prison and watch Rabin's successor, one of the architects of the Oslo Accords, work with Arafat.

#119 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-08-02 01:03 PM | Reply

What Yigal and Hamas have in common, neither are in favor of a two state solution.

#120 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-08-02 01:05 PM | Reply

What Zionism and Hamas have in common, neither are in favor of a two state solution.
#120 | Posted by sitzkrieg

#121 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-02 01:09 PM | Reply

Zionism, history will note, started the Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine. Hamas didn't even exist until 40 years into the Ethnic Cleansing. And, at birth, Hamas was financed by Israel with the hopes of politically destabilizing Palestine.

You know all this is true, you just don't acknowledge it because you support Israel pushing the Arabs into the sea.

#122 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-02 01:12 PM | Reply

There is no limit to the lengths people will go to rationalize using civilians as human shields.
#107 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

There's no such thing as human shields. Just collateral damage.

Blowing up a city block to kill one person means you're going to killing hundreds of innocent people.

Thinking it's okay is a dog ---- mentality.

#123 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-02 01:14 PM | Reply

Why is one State with equal rights for all so bad?

Coexistence is possible if everyone has self determination and Equality under the law. Multicultural Countries exist and thrive.

The Zionists want to be the only people with self determination in Israel. They don't want to play nice with others.

They want it ALL.

Total control,a good public image, the right to persecute minority populations and steal from them.

These things are incompatible.

#124 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-08-02 01:16 PM | Reply

"Why is one State with equal rights for all so bad?"

Apparently the wealthy don't and never did want equal rights for all.

Only a maga maroon can explain that to you why that is acceptable to them now.

#125 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-02 01:23 PM | Reply

"There's no such thing as human shields. Just collateral damage."

Also pro war tip:

Humans make very poor shields.

#126 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-02 01:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

There's no such thing as human shields.

#123 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-02 01:14 PM | Reply

"Utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas, or military forces immune from military operations is classified as a war crime under the Rome Statue of the International Criminal Court."

Building your military base under a densely populated city is exactly that, a war crime. Sending in agents to tell residents of an apartment if they flee they're going to be murdered by their own government, then having a rocket crew pop out of a hole next to their apartment and shoot of rockets is a war crime. NATO has been pointing it out since 2007.

Flashback to 50s & 60s, the IDF would send little Palestinian kids into homes they thought were ----- trapped. That's also a Human Shield. In April 2004 an IDF armored vehicle drove around with a Palestinian child tied to it so protesters wouldn't throw rocks at them. That's also a Human Shield.

#127 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-08-02 01:41 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The Israelis excell at everything Scummy and immoral.

Of course they use human shields...they're Cowards.

Nothing new here. Scummy people do Scummy things.

#128 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-08-02 01:47 PM | Reply

Ahead of my prediction, the Israeli Death Forces (IDF) have killed over 60,000 Palestinians in Gaza before the end of summer. And another disease is spreading in Gaza because of the wretched conditions the IDF have caused: New Gaza Disease

An international arrest warrant issued by the International Criminal Court (ICC) at the Hague remains active for Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu.

The Charges:
Allegedly responsible for the war crimes of starvation as a method of warfare and of intentionally directing an attack against the civilian population; and the crimes against humanity of murder, persecution, and other inhumane acts from at least 8 October 2023 until at least 20 May 2024. The ICC issued the arrest warrant on 21 November 2024.

https://left.eu/app/uploads/2025/04/NETANYAHU-wanted-1-1086x1536.jpg

"Do not approach and call INTERPOL immediately at telephone number 33 4 72 44 70 00 if the suspect is seen or located."

An indictment is merely an allegation. All defendants are presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law.

#129 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-08-02 02:10 PM | Reply

"Utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas, or military forces immune from military operations is classified as a war crime under the Rome Statue of the International Criminal Court."

What government do you imagine signed the Rome treaty, on behalf of the people of Gaza?

Name that nation.

Good boy.

#130 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-02 02:16 PM | Reply

On other news ...
The French government has halted all evacuations from Gaza after one of the Palestinians they helped come to France was found to be posting support for terrorism and killing Jews on social media.
France halts all evacuations from Gaza over alleged antisemitic reposts by Palestinian student
www.cnn.com

Palestinians from Gaza = Hamas

Palestinians have been brain washed.

#103 | Posted by oneironaut

That's called an Excuse. A refugee criticized Israel? That's antisemetic! NO MORE REFUGEES!

Imagine if we applied that standard to MAGA... NONE of you are allowed around underage girls anymore. Hell, none of you are allowed around women.

Palestinians don't need to be brainwashed. They have for decades been starved, terrorized and murdered by Israel. All they have to do is live and breath to see Israel as an enemy trying to kill them.

#131 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-08-02 02:26 PM | Reply

#131: Last year I was playing Bridge when in-between hands I remarked that the IDF had killed ~25,000 Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.

A white woman at my table responded that one Palestinian man had 'horribly' raped a woman in Paris.

I informed this female slice of white Christian bread that rape is the most common crime in France, perpetrated mostly by French predators.

Palestinians aren't allowed to have criminals within their people, like other nationalities, right?

Source: www.rfi.fr

#132 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-08-02 02:48 PM | Reply

- "My love is killing you." - God

This death thingy is possibly a matter of perspective; if there is a God, and it's this one, it's like that old song:

www.youtube.com

All I think I know for sure is that if one is certain one way or the other, the odds are they will be right as far as their own fate is concerned.

#133 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-02 02:57 PM | Reply

Colonal Bagshot - Six Day War

At the starting of the week
At summit talks you'll hear them speak
It's only Monday

Negotiations breaking down
See those leaders start to frown
It's sword and gun day

Tomorrow never comes until it's too late

You could be sitting taking lunch
The news will hit you like a punch
It's only Tuesday

You never thought we'd go to war
After all the things we saw
It's April Fools' day

Tomorrow never comes until it's too late

We'll all go running underground
And we'll be listening for the sound
It's only Wednesday

In your shelter dimly lit
Take some wool and learn to knit
'Cause it's a long day

Tomorrow never comes until it's too late

You'll hear a whistling overhead
Are you alive or are you dead?
It's only Thursday

You feel a shaking of the ground
A million candles burn around
Is it your birthday?

Tomorrow never comes until it's too late

Though that shelter is your home
The living space you have outgrown
It's only Friday

As you come out to the light
Can your eyes behold the sight
It must be doomsday

Tomorrow never comes until it's too late

Ain't it funny how men think
They made the bomb, they are extinct
It's only Saturday

I think tomorrow's come, I think it's too late

I think tomorrow's come, I think it's too late

I think tomorrow's come, I think it's too late

#134 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-08-02 03:22 PM | Reply

#134

Thanks, RLR... I'd never heard them before. I'll ck out their other music.

#135 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-02 03:38 PM | Reply

#130 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-02 02:16 PM | Reply | Flag:

Not Israel! Not the USA! Therefore, Clownshack is right, tying a Palestinian kid to your APC is definitely not a Human Shield.

It's only a Human Shield if it's enforcable.

#136 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-08-02 04:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

and Hamas aren't waging an asymmetric war using human shields as a core strategy, and Israel isn't slowly ethnically cleansing the strip.

#137 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-08-02 04:06 PM | Reply

Reminds me of when I was a kid and anti-semite classmates used to tell me Hitler was Jewish. All blame must ultimately rest on the Jews in their minds.
As if that would take one bit of guilt off of the actual perpetrators who very much wanted to provoke a response so they could whine about it and play victim, like they are now.
#101 | Posted by censored
Who raised the young Hitler and why did he have her hometown destroyed once in power?
WHY was he sent to her in the first place?
Biblically, Jesus displayed a similar anger for "chosen people".
The Palestinians are the last regional Judeans and the Israelite are Amalek.
#110 | Posted by redlightrobot

Case in point.

#138 | Posted by censored at 2025-08-02 11:58 PM | Reply

Building your military base under a densely populated city
#127 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

Hamas had military bases? Define "military base". A stockpile of munitions?

What was Israel doing allowing the people living in the occupied territory they control to build a "military base"?

How did Hamas build a "military base" without IDF knowing about it?

I understand you can't answer any of these questions because the talking points haven't been made available to you.

Perhaps ask Grok.

#139 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-03 04:09 AM | Reply

tying a Palestinian kid to your APC is definitely not a Human Shield.
#136 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

Mmmmm. I love that sweet hyperbole.

Means you got nothing.

Meanwhile.

"Israeli forces use Palestinian child as human shield in Gaza."

www.dci-palestine.org

Keep spreading lies and bullshht to support a genocide.

Netanyahu appreciates his useful idiots. Hitler could have used your help.

You and Censored would have made incredible Nazis propagandists.

#140 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-03 04:14 AM | Reply

https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/2024-01-15T190747Z_723781242_RC2EI5AFNDBN_RTRMADP_3_ISRAEL-PALESTINIANS-WEST-BANK-RAID-1705497202_dce189-1705497482.jpg

#141 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-08-03 04:18 AM | Reply

Building your military base under a densely populated city
#127 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

The Palestinians have a military?

Palestine isn't even a nation. But it has a "military"?

Maybe you mean gorilla fighters and headquarters.

But to pretend the Palestinians have a "military" is completely ridiculous.

As is defending Israel.

#142 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-03 04:21 AM | Reply

According to the Global Firepower Index (GFI), Israel is ranked 15 out of 145 military powers thanks to the hardworking American taxpayer. Per Wikipedia, the State of Palestine has no land army, nor an air force, or a navy. The Palestinian Security Services (PSS, not to be confused with the Preventive Security Service) do not possess heavy weapons or advanced military equipment like tanks. Therefore, the GFI does not include the Palestinians still alive in Gaza or the West Bank as they have no military like US-funded mini-superpower Israel.

Sources:

www.globalfirepower.com

en.wikipedia.org

#143 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-08-03 05:19 AM | Reply

Building your military base under a densely populated city
#127 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

So, The Pentagon?

#144 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-03 11:38 AM | Reply

So much bellyaching by the pro-Hamasers about what comes along with the war that they started and want to continue.

When asked whether it supports or opposes the disarmament of Hamas in the Gaza Strip in order to stop the war on the Gaza Strip, an overwhelming majority (85% in the West Bank and 64% in the Gaza Strip) said it is opposed to that; only 18% support it.
https://www.pcpsr.org/en/node/997
Hamas-Disamament

They want all the fun of raping and slaughtering Jews, but none of the downside.

#145 | Posted by censored at 2025-08-03 02:09 PM | Reply

"the war that they started"

Zionists started this war when they set out to conquer Eretz Israel in 1947.

#146 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-03 02:14 PM | Reply

"in order to stop the war on the Gaza Strip"

Israel will only stop the war on the Gaza Strip when Israel conquers the Gaza Strip.

#147 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-03 02:22 PM | Reply

So, The Pentagon?

#144 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-03 11:38 AM | Reply

Above ground, has about a mile buffer between it and the closest neighborhood. Closest things to it is Arlington National Cemetary, and the yacht basin Congress keeps their boats in.

#148 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-08-03 02:49 PM | Reply

#142 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-08-03 04:21 AM | Reply | Flag:

This feels like Ukrainian war threads again. Lot of opinions, lot of bitching about language, not a lot of technical knowledge of what's happening on the ground.

Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades. It's a paid military force made of Palestinians living under the Gaza Strip wearing civilians like a helmet while fighting for their version of a Palestinian state, so yeah, that half of Palestine has a military.

On the other side, the NSF is the military force for the PA. It's made of Palestinians fighting for Palestinians that operate as gendarmerie which is also by definition a military force.

#149 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-08-03 02:56 PM | Reply

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