This is how Americans negotiated with the Nazis and how we should negotiate with Russian Orcs.

To say that Germany negotiated with the Allies during their last pitiful days of existence in World War II is to dishonesty elastics the meaning of negotiation,

#15 | POSTED BY ZED

Hitler negotiated with his dog just before he shot it. He negotiated with his concubine just before he poisoned her. Then he negotiated a bullet to his own head. Apparently.

Ukraine and Russia must negotiate to end their war.
#19 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Why?

Russia can end its war of aggression right now.

If your neighbor moves his fence way into your property what is to negotiate? How much of your land would YOU offer your neighbor to move the fence back a little? Or would you insist the fence go back to its original location and THEN you maybe can talk about your boundary issues?

Oh I forgot to mention that your neighbor is also killing all your pets and kidnapping your children and raping your wife while asking if you want to "negotiate".

Still feel like negotiating?

Didn't think so.

Anyone with a 4th grade education knows WWII history.

I thought I did. But when to this day I keep finding stories I have never heard about.

Have any of you ever heard of Gunnar Sonsteby?

Wow. What an amazing WWII story that I had never heard before about one man's decision to fight back against tyranny.

Re 34

That's almost exactly what's happening in Ukraine.

Key events from 2025 that illustrate this pattern:

August: The most recent instances of this behavior occurred in August 2025.

As Russia's Foreign Minister claimed Moscow proposed a peaceful resolution, Russia launched a major barrage of drones and missiles into Ukrainian cities like Kharkiv, killing and injuring civilians.

An NPR report on August 21, 2025, noted that Russian airstrikes followed just days after diplomatic meetings involving US and Ukrainian officials.

June: During the G7 summit in Canada, Russia launched one of its largest bombardments on Kyiv, targeting residential areas.

May: President Donald Trump's announcement of a phone call with Putin about negotiations in May 2025 was followed by Russia's largest air assault on Ukraine's civilians in the war's three-year history.

April: In April 2025, during US-led diplomatic efforts, Russian shelling of the city of Sumy killed over 30 civilians. Ukrainian officials noted that Russia had launched thousands of missiles and drones, mostly at civilians, since agreeing to a limited pause in strikes.

See you think Russia in the wrong, Russia thinks its right.
Now where are you?

Russia is wrong everyone knows they are wrong even Russia knows it's wrong but that does not matter.

Now it is might makes right and Trumpy approves!

And I am in America. Where we used to know the difference between right and wrong. And where we used to be able to do something about it.

Now. Where are you commie agitator?

"Hardly, in your pathetic analogy, the invader of the home wasn't getting attacked by the home owner."

Liar. Ukraine did not attack Russians on Russian soil. They are DEFENDING themselves.

Russia is suffering losses because they did not win their war of aggression outright like they thought they would. Because Ukraine fought back. .

Your propaganda is weak comrade.

Russia is suffering losses as well, its a war of attrition, not something your analogy mentions AT ALL.
#38 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

It is NOW a war of attrition. It wouldn't be a war of attrition if my neighbor tried to steal my land. It would be a fight between lawyers. Yes there the analogy falls apart. But the fact is you would fight to protect your land.

Russians would lose a war of attrition if American leaders had any balls. They have already lost one against America. They know they would lose again if they had to face American weapons American might and the American economy. Hence all the time and effort to divide Americans and groom Trumpy.

Why should it? What leverage does Ukraine have to make it stop?

During Mr Toads Wild Ride (ver 2.0)?

No reason to stop. None at all. Apparently.

because there was a lot of work out afterward.
#17 | Posted by eberly

You mean there was a lot of land and loot to divvy up afterwards.