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Saturday, May 02, 2026

A bipartisan effort to expand what Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) recipients can buy has sparked an unexpected rift among Democrats, after Minnesota's lieutenant governor publicly criticized members of her own party over a narrowly focused food policy change.

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It's never made sense to me that people on SNAP (food stamps) can't use the benefit to buy hot food like rotisserie chicken. It's cheap & protein-dense. The House Farm Bill rectifies that ... great! But it also cements $187 billion in cuts to the SNAP program. www.motherjones.com/politics/202 ...

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-- Abby Vesoulis (@abbyvesoulis.bsky.social) May 1, 2026 at 11:26 AM

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Can we please stop this timeline? I want to get off.

#1 | Posted by jpw at 2026-05-01 03:09 PM | Reply

I can get 6 or 7 meals out of a $5 Costco chicken for myself. Can't buy a raw chicken for that.

#2 | Posted by morris at 2026-05-01 05:42 PM | Reply

"Can't buy a raw chicken for that."

Plus, cooking a chicken requires a pot and an oven and seasonings and time, none of which are free.

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-01 05:45 PM | Reply

There's a Pajeet-owned Citgo gas station in the small town near me where they sell fried. There's a cooler in there where they will sell people raw chicken on their SNAP bebefits and then fry it for them. The raw chicken is the same price as the fried chicken.

#4 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-05-01 05:57 PM | Reply


There's a Pajeet-owned Citgo gas station in the small town near me where they sell fried. There's a cooler in there where they will sell people raw chicken on their SNAP bebefits and then fry it for them. The raw chicken is the same price as the fried chicken.

#4 | Posted by lfthndthrds

I am guessing no health inspections, fly by night, popup?


Plus, cooking a chicken requires a pot and an oven and seasonings and time, none of which are free.
#3 | Posted by snoofy

True, but after eating a rotisserie chicken and you don't make a stock, well, then you deserve to be poor.

#5 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-05-01 09:02 PM | Reply

#4

Here's the deal, pal. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, believes anything you squirt out from that ---------- mounted on top of your neck, okay?

#6 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-05-01 09:26 PM | Reply

True, but after eating a rotisserie chicken and you don't make a stock, well, then you deserve to be poor.

#5 | Posted by oneironaut

Haven't bought chicken or veggie stock from a store in ages for this exact reason.

My favorite is using carcasses from smoked chickens to give just a hint of cherry and apple smoke smell and flavor.

#7 | Posted by jpw at 2026-05-01 10:44 PM | Reply

So, you use chicken for vegetable stock. Errr....

#8 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-05-01 10:49 PM | Reply

No. Veggie scraps.

I save and use the carcasses and scraps to get everything I can out of the food I buy and cook.

But yes, that wasn't particularly well written.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2026-05-01 11:02 PM | Reply

Just keeping you honest, me boyo

#10 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-05-02 12:27 AM | Reply

Understandably. Veggie stock from chicken a carcass definitely is no honest.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2026-05-02 01:48 AM | Reply

The cold and heartless conservative position is that letting people buy hot food with SNAP is tantamount to letting them buy restaurant food. Mercy, that won't do! It would almost be like giving them RESPECT! So, if you're going to make use of SNAP, you also need a kitchen, pots and pans, refrigeration, and enough money from some other source to have all these resources, that they can disqualify you for having too much money. And never mind that lots of homeless people have SNAP - they'll just have to buy canned food and eat it cold, down by the railroad tracks. Wait 'til these conservatives find out that the poors also get food at food banks, and then use SNAP to buy things to add to the bland basics and make it palatable.

#12 | Posted by AustinTX at 2026-05-02 11:18 PM | Reply

What does everyone think about people using SNAP to buy fast food like McDonalds?

The Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program is supposed to promote nutrition and reduce hunger at the same time.

Should a Big Mac qualify?

You know what would happen if hot food qualified?

People would eat a lot more fast food out of convenience.

Ten dollars of food from a grocery store goes a lot further than from a fast food restaurant.

This hot/cold debate sounds inconsistent on the surface but it really isn't if you look at the big picture.

#13 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-03 09:08 AM | Reply

#4

I wonder if your story is true.

If it is, you know good and well they would be selling this raw chicken at a much higher price than you could get it from a grocery store.

They're not going to cook it for free.

Maybe start a new service. Bring your own raw chicken and he'll cook it for you. Just kidding.

#14 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-03 09:15 AM | Reply

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#13 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-03 09:08 AM
Should a Big Mac qualify?

Why not? Or does new MAHA dictat prohibit all government/RFKjr-deemed "unhealthy" foods to be bought with food subsidies?

BTW, I've seen numerous "EBT accepted" signs on some fast food and restaurant chains, like Jack-in-the-Box, Burger King, Denny's, etc.

www.propel.app - A complete list of restaurants that accept EBT - Updated February 4th, 2026

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You know what would happen if hot food qualified?
People would eat a lot more fast food out of convenience.
Ten dollars of food from a grocery store goes a lot further than from a fast food restaurant.

You want government regulating "convenience"? How about prohibiting or taxing sugary drinks? You sound like good ol' "woke" Democrats!

Do you want FDA making budgets for people because they, being poor enough to need food stamps, don't understand concepts of "cheaper" and "more expensive," like our illustrious Builder-in-Chief who overpaid for everything he bought and bankrupted at least 20 of his own businesses, not to mention those who financed or contracted with him because he failed to pay them?

SOME people will always find ways to abuse the system. You either trust that people will be responsible with their budget, if money comes from taxpayers or not, or you don't. If you don't then the program is not worth doing to begin with.

If the program is worthwhile, MOST people who will benefit from it will not abuse it, out of "convenience."

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This hot/cold debate sounds inconsistent on the surface but it really isn't if you look at the big picture.

It is very inconsistent. Hot (aka "prepared") "fast food" is not that much different from cold "prepared" "fast food" such as sandwiches at Subway, Jersey Mike's, 7-Eleven or in prepared / packaged food sections in most chains of grocery stores, like Kroger, Albertson, Walmart, Costco etc.

Fast food is not necessarily "junk" food, and some would endlessly argue about what "healthy" food is.

Unless you want to go back to "government cheese" time of government doling out and distributing food (through third-party contracts with farmers and processed shelf-stable food companies) you are not going to control what people are buying with their EBT / food stamps.

Nor, as a likely proponent of limited, less controlling and intrusive in people's lives, government, you should be a supporter of the government that regulates minutia of temperature of food that poor people eat.
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#15 | Posted by CutiePie at 2026-05-03 10:41 AM | Reply

Cute,

I see your point but I stand by my opinion that if hot foods were allowed, fast food would be more heavily used.

#16 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-03 11:11 AM | Reply

Cute,

Did you ever get a government cheese?

They were great!

#17 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-03 11:13 AM | Reply

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#16 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-03 11:11 AM
... if hot foods were allowed, fast food would be more heavily used.

As would be many other things the "governmtent" (RFKjr or whoever is in charge at any given 4-yr interval) deems "appropriate."

So?

#17 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-03 11:13 AM
Did you ever get a government cheese?
They were great!

1. No... and 2. Don't pretend you didn't get the point.
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#18 | Posted by CutiePie at 2026-05-03 11:58 AM | Reply

Ten dollars of food from a grocery store goes a lot further than from a fast food restaurant.

This hot/cold debate sounds inconsistent on the surface but it really isn't if you look at the big picture.

#13 | Posted by BillJohnson

And if you do that, you run out of money well before your next benefits come. I would expect people to figure that out pretty quickly.
How they spend that benefit is their business.

#19 | Posted by morris at 2026-05-03 12:32 PM | Reply

Morris,

"How they spend that benefit is their business."

I don't know how much I agree with that.

It's not money they earned.

It's taxpayer money given for a specific purpose.

The person or agency providing the money may certainly put expectations on it.

#20 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-03 04:25 PM | Reply

#20 "It's taxpayer money given for a specific purpose. The person or agency providing the money may certainly put expectations on it."

Gosh.

While billions/trillions of dollars are disappeared into the great MIC, ole bj boi here is oh-so concerned that a hungry person might just buy some food to eat. You know, the very specific purpose it was given in the first place.

With "Christians" like bj boi, it isn't suffer the little children unto Me.

Nope.

With bj boi and his fellow "Christians" it is "suffer the little children, cause I got mine ... Now fuq off, little children"

#21 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-03 04:32 PM | Reply

Fiend,

Do you have any original thoughts or is whataboutism all you got?

You're not qualified to invoke the name of Jesus to judge me.

#22 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-03 04:38 PM | Reply

#22
Your head spinning yet?

#23 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2026-05-03 04:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

#22 In the name of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ...


You're welcome, bj boi ...

#24 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-03 04:43 PM | Reply

Tetchy. Lol.

#25 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2026-05-03 04:52 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Fiend,

God is patient, but He will not be mocked.

#26 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-03 04:57 PM | Reply

True, but after eating a rotisserie chicken and you don't make a stock, well, then you deserve to be poor.
#5 | Posted by oneironaut

"you deserve to be poor"
The Riiight never runs out of excuses, why it's poor people's fault for being poor.

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-03 04:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

God is patient, but He will not be mocked.
#26 | Posted by BillJohnson

This is the type of belief system that makes people think it's time to fly airplanes into buildings.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-03 05:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#26 Oh? And just what is "He" gonna do?

I'll wait for His response.

Because A_Friend is patient.

#29 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-03 05:02 PM | Reply

#26 Gosh, bj boi, what in Heaven's name will He do about this:

#30 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-03 05:10 PM | Reply

Fiend,

I don't know.

#31 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-03 05:11 PM | Reply

#26 Hey, bj boi, never - and I mean never - say that I never gave you any helpful advice:


Holy hand job, Jesus!

#32 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-03 05:15 PM | Reply

#31 While you're sitting there not knowing ...

#33 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-03 05:17 PM | Reply

#31 Or perhaps ...

#34 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-03 05:19 PM | Reply

#31 But, since it is the weekend... and it is Sunday ...

#35 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-03 05:21 PM | Reply

www.youtube.com

Not everyone is as easy as BJ.

#36 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-03 05:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Why are so many Jews Atheists but they never renounce being "Jewish"?

If they don't believe in GOD how can they Claim to be Jews?

It's a religion, not a Race or Ethnicity.

So if they don't believe it, how can they be Jews?

If a Lutheran or a Muslim stop believing,they are not still Lutheran or Muslim, and they seldom claim to be.

So Why don't Jews stop being Jews too, if they aren't really believers?

What Gives?

#37 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-05-03 05:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Fiend,

Will you let us know if He answers your question?

#38 | Posted by Billjohnson at 2026-05-03 05:40 PM | Reply

#37 ($war)

"Many Jews identify as atheists while retaining their Jewish identity because Judaism is understood as an ethnoreligious group rather than solely a faith-based religion.

It combines ethnicity, culture, ancestry, and nationhood, meaning one can be culturally or ethnically Jewish without believing in God."

www.google.com

#39 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-03 05:45 PM | Reply

#38 Absolutely.

Although I must admit, that's not the first-time that answers from God that were not forthcoming.

So, just hold your breath ...

Meanwhile ...

#40 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-03 06:18 PM | Reply

I call bullshit on that.

It's a Hereditary cult then.

If they believe in Judaism, that's one thing.

But unbelievers claiming GOD gave them Palestine is just Pure Bullshit on every level.

These MotherFuckers are Murdering thousands of people and stealing everything they have based on a Religion they don't even believe is True.

Bibi is an Atheist. He's Not a practicing Jew.

By what authority do they kill in God's name if they don't believe God Exists?

Real Devout Jews I can somewhat understand being Zionists.

Atheist "Jews", like Bibi?

It's just a Murderous Con on the whole idea of Religion.

An Piss Poor Excuse to Be Murdering Swine.

They are not Jews,if they don't believe.

#41 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-05-03 06:23 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#38 Perhaps this will be of interest to you, bj boi .... gives you hope, nes pas?

#42 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-03 06:25 PM | Reply

#41 "An Piss Poor Excuse to Be Murdering Swine."

Here are your words, Effete, put into a poster.

#43 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-03 06:33 PM | Reply

Since you are A Friend, here's an invitation to brush up on your physics:

www.youtube.com
(restart it)

Because ridicule is a terrible thing to waste; one should be completely prepared to defend it as unquestioningly deserving.... that's what happened to the New Atheist movement, you know; they died a fairly sudden death from their own 'edgy' snark.

Agnostics, and even atheists like Bryan Appleyard were disgusted by it.

"Broadly speaking, as the title suggests, the solution is scientific. But Rees is no believer in scientism, the idea that science is the only route to all the truth of the world, especially when it is reinforced by the cult of the New Atheism championed by the likes of Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins. Some of the NAs " "small-time Bertrand Russells", he calls them " stirred up trouble at the Royal Society.

He responded that the RS should be secular but not anti-religious and, as evidence, he supplies a beautiful quote from Darwin, the greatest hero of the NAs, on atheism:

"The whole subject is too profound for the human intellect. A dog might as well speculate on the mind of Newton. Let each man hope and believe as he can."

Amen to that."

thecritic.co.uk

#44 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-03 06:50 PM | Reply

#44 Thanks, Corky.

"The whole subject is too profound for the human intellect. A dog might as well speculate on the mind of Newton. Let each man hope and believe as he can."

Precisely why I am a committed ignostic.

#45 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-03 06:53 PM | Reply

My fav definition of ignostic is, 'atheism with commitment issues', lol...

ie; that if you do not actively believe in a god, you are an atheist, and using another term is simply to avoid the stigma associated with the word "atheist".

#46 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-03 07:00 PM | Reply

#46 "...and using another term is simply to avoid the stigma associated with the word "atheist".

An interesting way of slamming one person's hopes and beliefs as he can, and turn it into a punch line.

Because ridicule is a terrible thing to waste.

#47 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-03 07:04 PM | Reply

#46 Corky, here's an invitation to brush up on your overall science.

Definition of the Sun: The luminous star at the center of our solar system, composed primarily of hydrogen and helium, which provides Earth with light and heat.
That's a definition on which there would be almost universal agreement.

Meanwhile ...

Definition of God: The supreme, almighty creator and ruler of the universe in monotheistic religions, or a supernatural being with superior power in polytheistic beliefs.
That's a definition on which there would be almost zero agreement because, the definition of god (or God) is different for each believer. Hence, "Let each man hope and believe as he can."

So, for me ...

The Sun is real.

Give me a definition for a god (or God or Gods or whatever) and I'll be happy to consider, as I would any change to the accepted definition of the Sun.

Otherwise, I remain an ignostic.

#48 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-03 07:18 PM | Reply

If people were honest they'd all admit we're without knowledge.

But we know how that goes.

#49 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-05-03 07:27 PM | Reply

#47

aka fighting fire with fire, which I am comfortable with if I didn't fire first.

Nice chat, though.

(I'm at the part in the youtube link in #44 where you need DNA to get a living cell, and you need a living cell to get DNA; the biggest of all chicken and egg problems.

Oxford's Lennox says that DNA is linguistics, a language where there are words, like human DNA which are 100's of billions of letters long, and agreeing, Bill Gates says that DNA is like a software code, and Richard Dawkins admits it's 'machine code'...

and you do NOT get language like complexity through natural processes, it always comes from mind.)

that's about 30 mins in

#50 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-03 07:32 PM | Reply

#50 Any chat with you, Corky, is both welcomed and appreciated.

You're good people ...

And, indicative of nothing whatsoever... I seem to remember, years ago, you mentioning that your moniker was because your father was nicknamed after this beloved character:

Did my 70+ y/o brain remember correctly?

Or am I just hallucinating ... ?

(h/t to Donnerboy)

#51 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-03 08:05 PM | Reply

#20 | Posted by BillJohnson

And, if they're barely surviving on beans and rice or handouts at the end of the month, that's on them. I am not, however, going to deny them a splurge when some special occasion comes up like an anniversary, birthday, ...what have you. If they have to cut corners elsewhere to make up for a kid's birthday cake, again, it's on them. All about that "personal responsibility" you "conservatives" like to preach about rather the nanny state impinging on your choices.

#52 | Posted by morris at 2026-05-03 08:23 PM | Reply

51

"You are correct, Sir!" - Ed McMahon

Dad was afraid he was going to miss all the fighting in WWII, so he lied about his age and joined the Air Force at age 16.

He trained for months as a Navigator, though, so he did miss the fighting, but he flew into Berlin many times during the Airlift of food and supplies to the German people.

www.youtube.com

Thanks for the memories!

#53 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-03 08:25 PM | Reply

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