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Karoline Leavitt landed a new role at Fox News just as Donald Trump's anger with the network boiled over, and the timing is raising questions about where her loyalty now lies. https://atlantablackstar.pulse.ly/uf4qlkidsd

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-- Atlanta Black Star (@atlblackstar.bsky.social) 6:49 PM · Oct 6, 2026

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I did NAZI that coming.

#1 | Posted by Nixon at 2026-10-06 10:11 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

She'll be Secretary of War in no time.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2026-10-06 11:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

One expects that she is going to find out the difference between having power and having respect. Her mocking of mainline media is going to haunt her for a long long time.

#3 | Posted by Hughmass at 2026-10-07 06:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#3-Hopefully forever HM. "Mommy-why is your name always in the news with the word L I A R next to it?"

#4 | Posted by Yodagirl at 2026-10-07 08:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So, that weekend sports and weather slot is still open, after Drinky Pete bailed? We will soon find out the skill level Karoline possess in throwing axes...

#5 | Posted by catdog at 2026-10-07 09:30 AM | Reply

Say what you want about her. Objectively she was an effective press secretary. And she's being brought on as a contributor. She's not being given her own show. And this is nothing compared with the ---------- relationship the Obama administration had with the media. That situation was ridiculous.

#6 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 10:39 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

this is nothing compared with the ---------- relationship the Obama administration had with the media. That situation was ridiculous.

#6 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Donald Trump makes Fox News personalities into government officials.

#7 | Posted by Zed at 2026-10-07 10:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Objectively she was an effective press secretary.

#6 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Objectively she was a rotten American.

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2026-10-07 10:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Perfect for Fox. Bubble headed bleach blond that will be on The Five. She can spin with a gleam in her eye. It's interesting when Trump lies. Give us dirty laundry.

#9 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2026-10-07 11:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"And this is nothing compared with the ---------- relationship the Obama administration had with the media."

Remind me of where the current secretary of defense, sorry, "war" came from? Thanks.

#10 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-10-07 11:31 AM | Reply

" Donald Trump makes Fox News personalities into government officials.

#7 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2026-10-07 10:52 AM | REPLY | FLAG:"

That is true. It's just nowhere near to the extent of the Obama/media revolving door.

#11 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 11:35 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

" Objectively she was a rotten American.

#8 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2026-10-07 10:53 AM | FLAG: "

Was? Don't you mean "is"?

Is she a Nazi? Does she have a massive oven in her basement she uses to incinerate lefties?

#12 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 11:37 AM | Reply

#12 | Posted by BellRinger

Oh, tell me, did every Nazi incinerate or gas Jews? People like you can see the writing on the wall and still find some slim way to distinguish the current maga party from the old nazi party. A rose by any other name is still a rose.

#13 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2026-10-07 11:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Is she a Nazi?

#12 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

She's like you, she flaks for Nazis.

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2026-10-07 11:48 AM | Reply

12 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

I just read an article where a GOP operative is moaning that, after all, TRUMP'S PLANS TO STEAL THE MIDTERMS MIGHT NOT WORK.

He's your peer.

But maybe you have no peer, and are forced to squat.

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2026-10-07 11:51 AM | Reply

" People like you can see the writing on the wall and still find some slim way to distinguish the current maga party from the old nazi party"

The Nazi's slaughtered 6 million Jews and engaged in countless other horrific atrocities.

Comparing the GOP to them is beyond gross. Go eff yourself, you wretched hag.

#16 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 12:35 PM | Reply

" She's like you, she flaks for Nazis.
#14 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2026-10-07 11:48 AM | FLAG: "

How many people have the GOP slaughtered, Zed?

You people are disgusting with the amount of abject hatred you project.

#17 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 12:37 PM | Reply

How many people have the GOP slaughtered, Zed?

How many Iranians have died from Piggy's war of aggression on them?

#18 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 12:40 PM | Reply

How many Venezuelan fisherman have died from Piggy's extrajudicial killings?

#19 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 12:41 PM | Reply

How many immigrants have been murdered by Piggy's ICE?

#20 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 12:41 PM | Reply

How many Americans died cause of Piggy's incompetent handling of COVID?

#21 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 12:42 PM | Reply

Jeff, You are disgusting and willfully blind. The hatred is on the right. The people chanting "deport, deport, deport" at Trumps most recent rally dont really care where the "others" are sent. It is divisive and what is left of maga is the most bigoted of his supporters, the ones that would still be chanting when a new age form of death camp is well under way. I dont have any hatred, I have disgust for what I can see with my eyes, and hope for a better day when the light shines and the roaches scatter. I pity you.

#22 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2026-10-07 12:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

How many capital police died cause of Piggy's insurrection?

OH yeah you think zero

cause you don't understand PTSD

#23 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 12:44 PM | Reply

Piggy steals funds from memorials to slain police officers to make commercials boosting his ego.

#24 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 12:45 PM | Reply

Jeff supports the Cornell 7

#25 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 12:46 PM | Reply

Trump says I feel badly' for Cornell 7 accused in gang rape case

#26 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 12:47 PM | Reply

Piggy steals funds from memorials to slain police officers to make commercials boosting his ego.

I heard he had to pay it all back now and use his own campaign funds to pay for his campaign ads.

Because The People (and the lawyers) noticed. And ONLY because they noticed.

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-10-07 12:49 PM | Reply

Trump has reportedly said before that Adolf Hitler did "some good things", echoed the Nazi dictator by calling his political opponents "vermin" and saying immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country", and responded to a white supremacist march in Charlottesville by claiming that there were "very fine people on both sides".

#28 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 12:50 PM | Reply

"Comparing the GOP to them is beyond gross."

#16 | Posted by BellRinger

Also note, I did not say GOP, I said maga party. There is a significant difference, as you can see in Trumps current approval rating. Not all GOP was in the tea party, most are not in the maga party. GOP will outlive this. It is time conservatives decided that Trump is not the future of their party.

#29 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2026-10-07 12:52 PM | Reply

I dont have any hatred, I have disgust for what I can see with my eyes, and hope for a better day when the light shines and the roaches scatter. I pity you.

#22 | POSTED BY JUSTAGIRL_IDAHO

It is pretty disgusting to watch.

I advise not being anywhere near a maga maroon when their karma catches up to them. I suspect it will be pretty ugly. The bigger they are the harder they fall. One and all.

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-10-07 12:53 PM | Reply

Is she a Nazi? Does she have a massive oven in her basement she uses to incinerate lefties?
#12 | Posted by BellRinger

Credibility score here, like Trump's morality and soul, apparently has no bottom.

A shrill troll caught in the corner of his own past thinking or trolling or both. Lashing out.

Damn, Bringer, just give up. The present GOP's policies will be killing Americans for years. It's not a joke. If you want to call it a theory, just watch it play out in your lifetime. Or continue to ignore it.

But Christ, no one needs their own stash of Zyklon B to be a Nazi these days. Just a keyboard.

#31 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-10-07 12:55 PM | Reply

You people are disgusting with the amount of abject hatred you project.

#17 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

And you don't even realize it's just a reflection of what's coming from you and the White House? You can't see that? That's on you friend.

And being intolerant of intolerance is not the same thing as hate my loonie friend.

#32 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-10-07 12:57 PM | Reply

" I pity you.

#22 | POSTED BY JUSTAGIRL_IDAHO AT 2026-10-07 12:43 PM | FLAG: "

Don't bother. Biden's handlers flooded this country with illegal aliens with malignant intent. Removing them is just and moral. Illegal immigration nowadays has human, sex and drug trafficking baked in. And champions of illegal immigration don't care. They also don't care about national sovereignty, the rule of law and the dignity of those who came here by following the rules and process.

It's disgusting. A return to a structured immigration process and the undoing of the damage caused by Biden's handlers is a boon to this country. And yes, Noem was awful in how she conducted the deportation process and that absolutely warrants harsh criticism. Firing her was the right call and didn't happen soon enough.

#33 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 12:58 PM | Reply

Oh, did I make a mistake saying GOP instead of MAGA?

I don't think so. Only the fringe GOP on the national level is separating itself from MAGA, which is why it's news when it happens.

In the national GOP, only the fringe tends toward moderation.

I don't care what Eberly says about locals. In the parts of Virginia where I've spent most of my time, local GOPers wouldn't dare say anything negative for public consumption about Trump. If you go over into Tennessee, it's Trump down to the school boards.

#34 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-10-07 12:59 PM | Reply

" 31 | POSTED BY DBT2 AT 2026-10-07 12:55 PM | FLAG: "

Do you even comprehend the almost unimaginable horrors of the Holocaust? How ------- dare you to compare that to anything your political adversaries are doing? You people are truly repugnant.

#35 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 01:00 PM | Reply

Illegal immigration nowadays has human, sex and drug trafficking baked in. And champions of illegal immigration don't care.
Bellringer

"Champions of illegal immigration." Is that like people who really like abortion?

If by "champions of illegal immigration," you mean "the left," and claiming the left doesn't care about human, sex, and drug trafficking (and presumably the right does), you're way off base. Check the headlines.

Or god forbid, some social science research.

#36 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-10-07 01:03 PM | Reply

#35 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Does the GOP (MAGA) kill people?

Oh, Hell, love. Millions. Millions.

Recent history falls from your brain like crumbs off a table, to lapped off the floor by the dogs of forgetfulness.

It has to be this way for you. You could not be you otherwise.

#37 | Posted by Zed at 2026-10-07 01:05 PM | Reply

POSTED BY DBT2 AT 2026-10-07 12:55 PM | FLAG: "
Do you even comprehend the almost unimaginable horrors of the Holocaust? How ------- dare you to compare that to anything your political adversaries are doing? You people are truly repugnant.

#35 | Posted by BellRinger

I'm Jewish, @$$#o3. Hungarian and Russian, both came here in the last 150 years. Don't give me your nonsense. I had people on one side killed by Nazis and on another side helping conduct the Holomodor. Ever heard of it? Kinda puts the Holocaust to shame, or does that offend your goyish ass?

The Nazis and the Russians had their methodologies. They were enacted very quickly and finally brought to an end.

Who is going to rescue the US from Project 2025?

#38 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-10-07 01:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"to be lapped off the floor by the dogs of forgetfulness"

Wanted to get that verb in there.

But I have to admit: If you are able to forget what happens around you, no one can really pin you down in an argument.

#39 | Posted by Zed at 2026-10-07 01:08 PM | Reply

Noem was awful in how she conducted the deportation process and that absolutely warrants harsh criticism.

Posted by BellRinger

She only did what she did because Trump liked it.

See? Forgot about that, too.

#40 | Posted by Zed at 2026-10-07 01:09 PM | Reply

Do you even comprehend the almost unimaginable horrors of the Holocaust? How ------- dare you to compare that to anything your political adversaries are doing? You people are truly repugnant.

#35 | Posted by BellRinger

Are we permitted to compare Piggy's war of aggression to Hitler's?

Mind you Hitler declared war.

Piggy started his war with a cowardly sneak attack

When you think about it, Hitler, in this instance showed more character than Piggy

#41 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:11 PM | Reply

Biden's handlers flooded this country with illegal aliens with malignant intent.

Have you figured it out yet? Your lies don't work here.

I don't think Joe Biden had a "malignant" bone in his body.

The "malignant intent" is currently living in White House and stealing everything that's not tied down. And if it's tied down he demolishes it.

Seriously bro. WTF is wrong with you? You are being consumed by your own lies.

#42 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-10-07 01:12 PM | Reply

Do you even comprehend the almost unimaginable horrors of the Holocaust? How ------- dare you to compare that to anything your political adversaries are doing?

#35 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

We are trying to get ahead of the curve.

Look at it this way: We are trying to protect you and your cousin Daryl from being indicted for Crimes Against Humanity.

#43 | Posted by Zed at 2026-10-07 01:12 PM | Reply

If you are able to forget what happens around you, no one can really pin you down in an argument.
#39 | Posted by Zed

Welcome to being an Alzheimer's caregiver. But like the Retort, sometimes you just can't resist the exchange, even though the other party won't remember it.

Catharsis. Not the best self-care tool, but there you have it.

#44 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-10-07 01:13 PM | Reply

I remind our resident lying piece of ---- that wars of aggression are the daddy of all other crimes against humanity.

#45 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

When you think about it, Hitler, in this instance showed more character than Piggy
#41 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:11 PM

Oooh, watch out. You'll get hammered like when people called the 9/11 terrorists "brave."

#46 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-10-07 01:15 PM | Reply

Piggy started his war with a cowardly sneak attack

He literally assassinated the entire leadership of their country. And then expected them to negotiate for peace.

The world has not seen anything like it. I cannot find another example like it in history.

#47 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-10-07 01:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

255 Venezuelans and Colombians blow up for the sin of being in a boat in the Caribbean or eastern Pacific Ocean

#48 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:16 PM | Reply

Both Hitler and Piggy started wars of aggression against sovereign nations with cowardly sneak attacks.

Hitler at least had the integrity to declare war on the United States

#49 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:18 PM | Reply

Posted by BellRinger

We all know that you love this. Attention for some people is always good attention.

But you are leaving your own personal drop of bile to the mess real people will have to clean up.

#50 | Posted by Zed at 2026-10-07 01:22 PM | Reply

Noem was awful in how she conducted the deportation process and that absolutely warrants harsh criticism.

Posted by BellRinger

So. You think she's learned her lesson do ya?

Not likely. She deserves a comfy cell and prison food. Not harsh criticism. And America should demand the return of all the taxpayer money she stole and wasted.

#51 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-10-07 01:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- your political adversaries

Pretending that DJT et al are politics as usual 'political adversaries' is normalizing Fascists. (do I need to post that Definition again?)

But hey, Musk can sieg heil his way into rwinger hearts and bribe his way into tax cuts and Gov contracts which is also all just politics as usual to the Cult... and it's enablers.

#52 | Posted by Corky at 2026-10-07 01:23 PM | Reply

I remind

Piggy unilaterally pulled out of the JCPOA despite Iran abiding by it

Piggy entered negotiations with Iran in June 2025 and attacked them without notice and without declaration with a cowardly sneak attack

Piggy agreed to a ceasefire with Iran in June 2025

In early 2026 Piggy was negotiating with Iran

Once again, Piggy attacked Iran without notice and without declaration with a cowardly sneak attack

The cowardly sneak attack targeted the Iranian Supreme Leader (who happens to be the head of the Shia religion-the Shia Pope if you will) during peacetime with an attack on his home killing young children and women

Piggy has targeted and killed Iranian negotiators

Piggy has targeted and killed Iranian moderates

Piggy has repeatedly and criminally threatened genocide against the Iranian people

Piggy has threatened and committed war crimes against the Iranian people

Piggy entered a MOU in April 2026 that ceased the active fighting

Piggy immediately broke the MOU

Piggy has continued to threaten war crimes

Does this sound like the actions of a nazi?

#53 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:23 PM | Reply

But hey, Musk can sieg heil his way into rwinger hearts and bribe his way into tax cuts and Gov contracts which is also all just politics as usual to the Cult... and it's enablers.
#52 | Posted by Corky

and don't forget steal massive amounts of government data for his ai ---- while simultaneously cutting aid to the poorest people on the planet

#54 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:25 PM | Reply

America should demand the return of all the taxpayer money she (Noem) stole and wasted.

#51 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

BELLRINGER/MAGA do not believe in the concept of theft when one of their people do it.

I, myself, am completely on board. Start with Trump and work down the chain. None of them deserve what they robbed from us.

#55 | Posted by Zed at 2026-10-07 01:25 PM | Reply

" If by "champions of illegal immigration," you mean "the left," and claiming the left doesn't care about human, sex, and drug trafficking (and presumably the right does), you're way off base. Check the headlines.

Or god forbid, some social science research.

#36 | POSTED BY DBT2 AT 2026-10-07 01:03 PM | FLAG: "

Democrats and a large subset of the left champion illegal immigration and want it to happen as much as possible. All of the things I mentioned are baked into the process. You do the math.

#56 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 01:25 PM | Reply

" I'm Jewish, @$$#o3. Hungarian and Russian, both came here in the last 150 years. Don't give me your nonsense"

Then I put you in the "Queers for Palestine" and "Chickens for KFC" crowd.

#57 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 01:27 PM | Reply

Piggy started his war with a cowardly sneak attack

He literally assassinated the entire leadership of their country. And then expected them to negotiate for peace.
The world has not seen anything like it. I cannot find another example like it in history.

#47 | Posted by donnerboy a

even Japan TRIED to get a Declaration of War before our Sec of State before the attack and they did limit their attack to military targets

We bombed a guys house and a girls school

#58 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:27 PM | Reply

Then I put you in the "Queers for Palestine" and "Chickens for KFC" crowd.

#57 | Posted by BellRinger

The expression of a person who has lost his soul

#59 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Democrats and a large subset of the left champion illegal immigration

#56 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Wah, wah, wah.

Your man, and your people, are making a deadly serious effort to steal the next election.

Immigration, in this moment of history, is unimportant.

#60 | Posted by Zed at 2026-10-07 01:30 PM | Reply

" The Nazis and the Russians had their methodologies. They were enacted very quickly and finally brought to an end.

Who is going to rescue the US from Project 2025?

#38 | POSTED BY DBT2 AT 2026-10-07 01:08 PM | FLAG: "

Let's see ... .Project 2025, a Heritage Foundation think piece equals ... ..the horrors of the Holocaust and the tragic human misery of Communism (which has fondness alram8ngky growing on the left recently).

Do you even hear yourself? You people are irredeemably ridiculous and repugnant.

#61 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 01:30 PM | Reply

Democrats and a large subset of the left champion illegal immigration

#56 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Wah, wah, wah.

Your man, and your people, are making a deadly serious effort to steal the next election.

Immigration, in this moment of history, is unimportant.

#62 | Posted by Zed at 2026-10-07 01:32 PM | Reply

Then I put you in the "Queers for Palestine" and "Chickens for KFC" crowd.

#57 | Posted by BellRinger

BTW jeff is incapable of understanding why a persecuted minority in one country would support the people of another country who are being persecuted

#63 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:32 PM | Reply

Do you even hear yourself?

#61 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

You've lost. Give up.

#64 | Posted by Zed at 2026-10-07 01:32 PM | Reply

Then I put you in the "Queers for Palestine" and "Chickens for KFC" crowd.

#57 | Posted by BellRinger

Jeff do you understand why the Irish are so supportive of the Palestinian people and are very LGBTQ friendly?

#65 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:33 PM | Reply

Let's see ... .Project 2025, a Heritage Foundation think piece equals ... ..the horrors of the Holocaust and the tragic human misery of Communism (which has fondness alram8ngky growing on the left recently).
Do you even hear yourself? You people are irredeemably ridiculous and repugnant.

#61 | Posted by BellRinger

Why do you avoid answering my questions about Piggy's war of aggression?

The comparison to nazis is quite apt and unavoidable.

#66 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:34 PM | Reply

You clowns are actually kind of funny in how ridiculous you are. The false equivalencies are so bad they are comical.

When it comes to Trump, MAGA and the GOP you have plenty of material to seriously criticize and you'd get plenty of agreement from people like me. But, that isn't good enough for you haters. You have to come up with the nastiest possible absurd comparisons and castigate anyone you disagree with politically as the embodiment of pure evil. You are dehumanizing the very people you accuse of dehumanizing others in the ultimate act of self irony.

I truly pity all of you.

#67 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 01:36 PM | Reply

You people are irredeemably ridiculous and repugnant.

#61 | Posted by BellRinger

Is in repugnant to start a war of aggression with a cowardly sneak attack?

Is America irredeemable for not acknowledging they bombed a girls school?

#68 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:36 PM | Reply

" Your man, and your people, are making a deadly serious effort to steal the next election" - Zed

So now you are parroting Trump over the 2020 election? Zed and Trump. Two peas in a pod. Hilarious.

#69 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 01:37 PM | Reply

ou clowns are actually kind of funny in how ridiculous you are. The false equivalencies are so bad they are comical.
When it comes to Trump, MAGA and the GOP you have plenty of material to seriously criticize and you'd get plenty of agreement from people like me. But, that isn't good enough for you haters. You have to come up with the nastiest possible absurd comparisons and castigate anyone you disagree with politically as the embodiment of pure evil. You are dehumanizing the very people you accuse of dehumanizing others in the ultimate act of self irony.
I truly pity all of you.

#67 | Posted by BellRinger

Will you admit that Piggy, like the nazis, executed a war of aggression? the worst crime against humanity?

Can you admit that starting a war of aggression with a cowardly sneak attack is vile and America deserves to suffer for it?

If not, why not?

#70 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:38 PM | Reply

You do the math.

#56 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

lol. Fuzzy republican math will never get you the right answer.

If you only have a map of Chicago you will have a hard time finding your way to California.

No one I know of in the left (who matters) is "championing illegal immigration". No major political party, mainstream organization, or government officially advocates "for" maintaining or encouraging illegal immigration.

But the debate actually centers on how to manage unauthorized immigration, what to do with the estimated millions of undocumented individuals already living in this country, and how to reform the legal immigration system.

When you are ready to stop lying about it maybe we could discuss that.

Meanwhile The People are about to decide.

Accountability is coming.

#71 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-10-07 01:39 PM | Reply

So now you are parroting Trump over the 2020 election? Zed and Trump. Two peas in a pod. Hilarious.

#69 | Posted by BellRinger

Piggy literally told his followers and made them pledge to "cheat like hell"

After President Donald Trump told attendees at the Republican midterm convention Thursday night that "we want honesty in our elections," he led them in a pledge to "cheat like hell" and "go out and vote" in the midterm elections.

To jeff it is ridiculous to conclude that Piggy will cheat

#72 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:41 PM | Reply

Twoothy,

I have opposed the war against Iran from the start and still do. It doesn't even remotely compare to the Blitzkreig and the atrocities of the Holocaust. And let's not paint the world's biggest sponsor of terrorism in a sympathetic light just because Obama showered them with love.

#73 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 01:42 PM | Reply

Hey jeff did America start a war of aggression against Iran with a cowardly sneak attack?

Simple yes or no will suffice, but feel free to elaborate

#74 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:43 PM | Reply

Election denialism was bad until it wasn't.

#75 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 01:43 PM | Reply

Twoothy,
I have opposed the war against Iran from the start and still do. It doesn't even remotely compare to the Blitzkreig and the atrocities of the Holocaust. And let's not paint the world's biggest sponsor of terrorism in a sympathetic light just because Obama showered them with love.

#73 | Posted by BellRinger

That is not the question

The question is

Did America start a war of aggression against Iran with a cowardly sneak attack?

#76 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:44 PM | Reply

Bellringer - The problem as I see it is that you are not willing to logically take a step back and see where Trumpism is rhyming with Nazi-ism and why we must turn against that. You will follow him to the edge of the cliff and then possibly realize it leads over the side but by then you have come too far and the crowd of others following will push you off anyway. Why should we not understand the path and where it leads so we know not to follow? I know that you know Trump is similar to Hitler. It is not to that scale and hopefully never will be, but if we didnt have that reference of how horrific it could be would we not understand the danger we are in? You're insistence that it is not like that and continued support is what will allow the march onward. Thankfully the crowd around you is thinning.

#77 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2026-10-07 01:44 PM | Reply

#74. Yes

#78 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 01:44 PM | Reply

I truly pity all of you.

#67 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

lol.

Enjoy the ash heap of history.

#79 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-10-07 01:44 PM | Reply

Twoothy,

I have opposed the war against Iran from the start and still do. It doesn't even remotely compare to the Blitzkreig and the atrocities of the Holocaust. And let's not paint the world's biggest sponsor of terrorism in a sympathetic light just because Obama showered them with love.

#73 | Posted by BellRinger

If you oppose the war in iran then obviously you'll be voting for people who will force trump to end the war, right?

Because if you vote for people who will allow trump to keep the war going, then you are supporting the war.

#80 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2026-10-07 01:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I have opposed the war against Iran from the start and still do. It doesn't even remotely compare to the Blitzkreig and the atrocities of the Holocaust. And let's not paint the world's biggest sponsor of terrorism in a sympathetic light just because Obama showered them with love.
#73 | Posted by BellRinger

How is America's war of aggression against Iran different from Germany's war of aggression?

Keep in mind that Piggy's war is just getting started, who knows what holocaust like events (like the use of nukes) might occur.

#81 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:45 PM | Reply

Justagirl Idaho

That is no different than saying Obama can be compared to Mao.

Both comparisons are gross. Like I said, Trump and his supporters have provided ample material to criticize and oppose. Just do that without the absurd and disgusting equivalencies.

#82 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 01:46 PM | Reply

I for one will fight fascism to my second to last breath (my last saying I love you to my loved ones)
And I will consider my life well spent

Jeff is the other guy

#83 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:46 PM | Reply

stagirl Idaho
That is no different than saying Obama can be compared to Mao.
Both comparisons are gross. Like I said, Trump and his supporters have provided ample material to criticize and oppose. Just do that without the absurd and disgusting equivalencies.

#82 | Posted by BellRinger at

Sure jeff, but Did America start a war of aggression against Iran with a cowardly sneak attack?

#84 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:47 PM | Reply

It doesn't even remotely compare to the Blitzkreig and the atrocities of the Holocaust.

Nothing in history compares to it.

Apparently.

You must be so proud.

Boy.

#85 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-10-07 01:47 PM | Reply

#74. Yes

#78 | Posted by BellRinger

well, thank you for acknowledging the simplest of concepts

Now, what should America do about it?

Should we not start by considering Piggy in the same light as the most famous of committers of wars of aggression?

#86 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:49 PM | Reply

It doesn't even remotely compare to the Blitzkreig and the atrocities of the Holocaust.

I do want to point out that we are at the beginning of this war of aggression, who knows if we will end up with the same tally as Hitler's

Though arguing the magnitude of the sin seems not the point

#87 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:50 PM | Reply

" Because if you vote for people who will allow trump to keep the war going, then you are supporting the war.

#80 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2026-10-07 01:44 PM | FLAG: "

If you vote for the people who willfully brought in 10 million illegal aliens then you support rampant illegal immigration. Add in transing minors, men in women's sports and locker rooms without consent, racial discrimination in college admittance, defunding police, cashless bail, light to no sentences for violent offenders, elimination of domestic fossil fuel production ... ... .

Am I doing this right?

#88 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 01:50 PM | Reply

" Now, what should America do about it?"

The same thing America did when we facilitated the toppling and ass raping and murder of Qudaffi.

#89 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 01:52 PM | Reply

If you oppose the war in iran then obviously you'll be voting for people who will force trump to end the war, right?
Because if you vote for people who will allow trump to keep the war going, then you are supporting the war.

#80 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

This is a great point, shouldn't the sin of waging a war of aggression not suffice to lose your support?

I mean supporting genocide and pogroms doesn't appear to be a deal breaker for many but maybe the worst crime against the world will be enough

#90 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:52 PM | Reply

" Though arguing the magnitude of the sin seems not the point

#87 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2026-10-07 01:50 PM | FLAG: "

It's absolutely the point. Do we compare a 10 minute drizzle with a Cat-5 hurricane flanked by 6 tornadoes?

Of course we don't because doing so would be ridiculous and foolish.

#91 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 01:54 PM | Reply

Now, what should America do about it?"
The same thing America did when we facilitated the toppling and ass raping and murder of Qudaffi.

#89 | Posted by BellRinger a

You do realize that there is ZERO equivalency there right?

The intervention in Libya was to stop a civil war under a UN mandated no-fly zone.

Iran is a war of aggression.

I realize you are too stupid to understand but....

#92 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:55 PM | Reply

It's absolutely the point. Do we compare a 10 minute drizzle with a Cat-5 hurricane flanked by 6 tornadoes?
Of course we don't because doing so would be ridiculous and foolish.

#91 | Posted by BellRinger

How many dead innocents before you care? I am honestly curious

#93 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:55 PM | Reply

255 Venezuelans and Colombians isn't enough

Up to 6000 Iranians too few too??

What is the number?

#94 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 01:56 PM | Reply

Just do that without the absurd and disgusting equivalencies.

#82 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Do you even hear yourself? After what has been said about Democrats and liberals you want US to tone it down?

What's good for the goose steppers..

Seriously GFY snowflake. Like I said. If I had my way you would all be marked as a maga maroon and be held accountable for the rest of your lives.

It's the "reconciliation" all over again. It did not work out well last time either. It will be very hard to forgive all this without some kind of accountability.

And do you hear that sound?

Accountability is coming!

#95 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-10-07 01:57 PM | Reply

If you vote for the people who willfully brought in 10 million illegal aliens then you support rampant illegal immigration. Add in transing minors, men in women's sports and locker rooms without consent, racial discrimination in college admittance, defunding police, cashless bail, light to no sentences for violent offenders, elimination of domestic fossil fuel production ... ... .
Am I doing this right?

#88 | Posted by BellRinger

Brought in? Lie
support illegal immigration? Lie
transitioning minors? You mean providing the healthcare that all of the medical professions say is appropriate?
men in women's sports? you mean the fewer than 10 trans athletes in the NCAA? That is the problem you compare to waging a war of aggression?
Racial discrimination in college admittance? LOL reverse discrimination is the real problem despite college admissions for blacks plummeting in the best schools
defunding the police? Lie
Elimination of domestic fossil fuel production? LIE AND LOL

you got nothign

#96 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 02:02 PM | Reply

people who willfully brought in 10 million illegal aliens then you support rampant illegal immigration. Add in transing minors, men in women's sports and locker rooms without consent, racial discrimination in college admittance, defunding police, cashless bail, light to no sentences for violent offenders, elimination of domestic fossil fuel production ... ... .

Am I doing this right?

#88 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Yup! You are doing it exactly right.

If your intention is to spread more lies and promote culture wars to create more division and chaos just like your Dear Leader Trumpy and his co-conspirators.

#97 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-10-07 02:02 PM | Reply

Twoothy,

You have a history of making apocalyptic predictions that never even come close to materializing.

Repealing net neutrality and Chevron spring to mind.

As for this war with Iran ... bad call. Not because it's a bad thing on its face. Because it was done without consent of Congress (just like toppling Qdaffi) and what is the end game? If the mullahs get displaced who takes over? I was all for taking out Iran's nuclear infrastructure earlier this year. This war though? It has never made sense and this administration has done nothing to articulate the justification for it.

#98 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 02:02 PM | Reply

If I had my way you would all be marked as a maga maroon and be held accountable for the rest of your lives.

They're lucky Im not in charge

#99 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 02:03 PM | Reply

#96. Everything I posted is accurate and easily supported.

#100 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 02:03 PM | Reply

So you are fine with America waging a war of aggression.

Not surprising given your well documented lack of integrity and morals

#101 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 02:04 PM | Reply

" If I had my way you would all be marked as a maga maroon and be held accountable for the rest of your lives.

They're lucky Im not in charge

#99 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2026-10-07 02:03 PM | FLAG: "

Would that consist of your goons going medieval on us with pliers and blowtorches?

#102 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 02:04 PM | Reply

#101. How many times do I have to tell you I'm opposed to this stupid war with Iran?

#103 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 02:05 PM | Reply

Chevron spring to mind.

I refuse to get derailed but you haven't begun to see the problems between courts seizing power from congress and slowness and rigidity of the regulatory bodies to respond to ----. Let your AI overlord explain it to you

#104 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 02:07 PM | Reply

You want to read ridiculous?

"And this is nothing compared with the ---------- relationship the Obama administration had with the media. That situation was ridiculous."

Hilarious! Fox News has been the cheering squad for the Fascists since Rupert "Nazi" Murdoch bought it! They loved the Iraq invasion disaster and now the Iran catastrophe! Has there ever been an idiotic, senseless, tragic war they didn't love? A tax cut for billionaires they didn't sell to the MAGA morons?

#105 | Posted by danni at 2026-10-07 02:07 PM | Reply

#101. How many times do I have to tell you I'm opposed to this stupid war with Iran?

#103 | Posted by BellRinger

Then you support impeachment of Piggy and Hegseth and shipping them to the Hague and the ICC?

#106 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 02:07 PM | Reply

Keep in mind that Piggy's war is just getting started, who knows what holocaust like events (like the use of nukes) might occur.

#81 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

He thinks it's over and we have already won and he has probably already spent his "$5K" bribe.

#107 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-10-07 02:08 PM | Reply

Would that consist of your goons going medieval on us with pliers and blowtorches?

#102 | Posted by BellRinger

I will say Piggy should have been subjected to a drumhead trial for treason and shown the wall

#108 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 02:08 PM | Reply

-The present GOP's policies will be killing Americans for years. It's not a joke

Are they much different than the past policies?

#109 | Posted by eberly at 2026-10-07 02:09 PM | Reply

" I refuse to get derailed but you haven't begun to see the problems between courts seizing power from congress"

Regulatory agencies making law out of whole cloth isn't Congress. It's the bureaucracy running amok and it was rightly reined in. If Congress wants to eliminate fossil fuels via passing a bill it can do so.

#110 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 02:09 PM | Reply

He thinks it's over and we have already won and he has probably already spent his "$5K" bribe.

#107 | Posted by donnerboy

The moron will deny and ignore the thousands if not millions who will starve to death over the next 2 years because of this war.

those people don't count, cause their brown

Cause he is a horrible human being.

1/3 of the world's fertilizer was not shipped

#111 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 02:10 PM | Reply

-Trump and his supporters have provided ample material to criticize and oppose. Just do that without the absurd and disgusting equivalencies.

Yeah, but what's the fun in that?

#112 | Posted by eberly at 2026-10-07 02:10 PM | Reply

And still isn't being shipped

MILLIONS will pay the price

#113 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 02:12 PM | Reply

-If I had my way you would all be marked as a maga maroon and be held accountable for the rest of your lives.

"held accountable"? Bellringer?

For what? and what do you mean by that?

#114 | Posted by eberly at 2026-10-07 02:12 PM | Reply

Would that consist of your goons going medieval on us with pliers and blowtorches?

#102 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

No need to attack the Capitol in a medieval assault on Patriotic Americans like you traitors. I'd just line you up and tattoo it on your foreheads. Maybe I'd get someone like the Bear Jew to carve it onto you. That would be fun.

#115 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-10-07 02:13 PM | Reply

The United Nations World Food Programme (WFP) projects that the war involving Iran and the resulting disruption of maritime trade through the Strait of Hormuz could push an additional 45 million people into acute hunger.

" Chronic Undernourishment Risks

8 million to 19 million people: Projected increase in chronic undernourishment globally by 2030 under worst-case UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) scenarios.
Regional Distribution: Asia is expected to account for roughly 10 million of these individuals, and Africa for 8 million.
Primary Driver: Surging energy and natural gas-derived fertilizer costs reduce global crop yields and drive up food prices.

Supply Chain Factors

Strait of Hormuz Blockade: Traps roughly a third of the global nitrogen fertilizer and sulfur trade.
Yield Vulnerability: Import-dependent and low-income farming regions face potential yield drops of up to 50% due to under-fertilization.
Compounding Crises: High input costs overlap with severe El Nio weather patterns affecting major agricultural outputs.

We starting to get into Nazi territory yet -------?

#116 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 02:13 PM | Reply

Conflict-fueled hunger causes an estimated 7,000 to 21,000 daily deaths globally across severely impacted regions.

Global Scale and Crisis Hotspots

Global Acute Hunger: Roughly 295 million people face high acute food insecurity across over 50 analyzed nations, driven by war, funding cuts to aid, and climate shocks

So, increase that by 45,000,000 an increase of around 15%

so the estimate goes to 8050 to 24150 per day or up to 8,800,000 deaths per year

or about 1,15,000 deaths cause of Piggy's war

#117 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 02:18 PM | Reply

We approaching nazi territory yet?

#118 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-10-07 02:18 PM | Reply

For what? and what do you mean by that?

#114 | POSTED BY EBERLY

You know exactly what it means fence sitter.

That while I'd prefer to talk the truth about things that matter I can talk the ---- and say absurd things about people I don't like and don't agree with just like any maga maroon here can and does.

And you know what? None of it matters. The People will decide what matters.

I already decided. I got my MAIL IN BALLOT today.

Don't boo. Vote!

#119 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-10-07 02:20 PM | Reply

-I already decided. I got my MAIL IN BALLOT today.

congrats. first time voting?

#120 | Posted by eberly at 2026-10-07 02:22 PM | Reply

#119 | Posted by donnerboy

I have had my absentee ballot a week and havent filled it out yet. I will be dropping it off at the ballot return at the courthouse by Friday. I dont trust the mail anymore.

#121 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2026-10-07 02:23 PM | Reply

-You know exactly what it means

Nope. He can explain if he has the balls.

or you can if you have the balls.

#122 | Posted by eberly at 2026-10-07 02:23 PM | Reply

I will always vote in person. It's the most secure way to vote.

#123 | Posted by BellRinger at 2026-10-07 02:31 PM | Reply

#123 | Posted by BellRinger

I had been doing that up until 2 years ago. The line after work is just so long that it was difficult to have a reasonable dinner time. I know, boo hoo, but I have a family to feed and this is secure. Plus the drop box is on my drive home so it is very convenient.

#124 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2026-10-07 02:34 PM | Reply

mail is terrible where I live. They don't sort mail in my town. It takes mail forever to get somewhere. I'll just vote early at my convenience.

#125 | Posted by eberly at 2026-10-07 02:34 PM | Reply

-I got my MAIL IN BALLOT today.

curious....what's wrong with voting in person where you live?

#126 | Posted by eberly at 2026-10-07 02:37 PM | Reply

If you vote for the people who willfully brought in 10 million illegal aliens then you support rampant illegal immigration. Add in transing minors, men in women's sports and locker rooms without consent, racial discrimination in college admittance, defunding police, cashless bail, light to no sentences for violent offenders, elimination of domestic fossil fuel production ... ... .

Am I doing this right?

#88 | Posted by BellRinger

Sort of. Except you need to list things democrats actually do, instead of things that fascist propagandists tell you that they do.

#127 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2026-10-07 02:41 PM | Reply

I will always vote in person. It's the most secure way to vote.

#123 | Posted by BellRinger

You must live in a district where republicans dont intentionally make the lines long as hell in order to discourage you from voting. I'm betting your district is pretty white.

#128 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2026-10-07 02:42 PM | Reply

curious....what's wrong with voting in person where you live?

#126 | Posted by eberly

I could be wrong but doesnt Donner live in Cali and they send everyone a mail in ballot now?

#129 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2026-10-07 02:42 PM | Reply

-How many Venezuelan fisherman have died from Piggy's extrajudicial killings?

I don't know....and I'm sure you don't either.

I also know you don't give a shit.

You just wish others did.

#130 | Posted by eberly at 2026-10-07 02:43 PM | Reply

I will always vote in person. It's the most secure way to vote.

#123 | Posted by BellRinger

You'll go stand in your short line in your republican district and cast your vote for people who will keep the iran war (which you "oppose") going, along with god knows what other catastrophes trump will create in the next 2 years.

#131 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2026-10-07 02:43 PM | Reply

curious....what's wrong with voting in person where you live?

#126 | Posted by eberly

Depends on where you live and whether republicans want you to vote or not.

www.scientificamerican.com

"Smartphone Data Show Voters in Black Neighborhoods Wait Longer"

#132 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2026-10-07 02:45 PM | Reply

-I could be wrong but doesnt Donner live in Cali and they send everyone a mail in ballot now?

Yes, I believe that's where he lives....and I forgot California does do that.

#133 | Posted by eberly at 2026-10-07 02:45 PM | Reply

I could be wrong but doesnt Donner live in Cali and they send everyone a mail in ballot now?

I think he does, norcal.

They do send out ballots by mail, and they have drop boxes for them. But still at the local library you can vote in person.

#134 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-10-07 02:50 PM | Reply

Except you need to list things democrats actually do,

Or not do.

#135 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-10-07 02:51 PM | Reply

The People will decide what matters.

Not if you live in California. I have pointed out 3 times where the people voted for propositions only to-be turned down and ignored by the executive and judicial branches.

The current rules on housing were also never voted upon.

#136 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-10-07 02:53 PM | Reply

Not if you live in California. I have pointed out 3 times where the people voted for propositions only to-be turned down and ignored by the executive and judicial branches.

The current rules on housing were also never voted upon.

#136 | Posted by oneironaut
Buckle up buttercup:

1. Utah (Medical Cannabis, 2018)

What Voters Passed: Voters approved Proposition 2 to establish a state-regulated medical marijuana system allowing licensed dispensaries and giving patients direct access.

Legislative Action: Before the voter-passed proposition could be fully implemented, Republican state leaders convened a special legislative session to pass a compromise bill (House Bill 3001). The legislature replaced the proposition's regulatory frame, removed the provision for individual home cultivation, limited allowable product formats (eliminating edible gummy options in favor of non-gelatin capsules or blister packs), and restricted the list of qualifying medical conditions.

2. South Dakota (Recreational Cannabis, 2020)

What Voters Passed: Voters approved Constitutional Amendment A, legalizing recreational marijuana for adults 21 and older, alongside Initiated Measure 26 for medical marijuana.

Executive & Judicial Opposition: Republican Governor Kristi Noem supported a legal challenge targeting Amendment A. A circuit judge ruled the amendment unconstitutional, and the South Dakota Supreme Court upheld that decision in 2021 on procedural grounds (finding it violated the state's "single-subject" requirement for constitutional amendments). The voter-approved recreational initiative was completely invalidated before taking effect.

3. Mississippi (Medical Cannabis, 2020)

What Voters Passed: Mississippi voters overwhelmingly approved Initiative 65, a citizen-initiated constitutional amendment establishing a medical marijuana program.

Judicial & Legislative Invalidation: State political leadership challenged the process used to place the measure on the ballot. In 2021, the Mississippi Supreme Court struck down Initiative 65, ruling that the state's ballot initiative rules were outdated and technically impossible to satisfy under current district boundaries. The legislature later drafted its own, more restrictive medical cannabis statute in 2022 to replace what voters had originally approved.

4. Montana (Medical & Recreational Regulations, 2011 & 2021)

What Voters Passed: Montana voters legalized medical marijuana via Initiative 148 in 2004 and recreational marijuana via Initiative 190 in 2020.

Legislative Alterations:

2011 (Medical): The legislature passed Senate Bill 423, which drastically overhauled the voter-approved 2004 medical framework by limiting caregivers to serving a maximum of three patients, effectively closing large-scale dispensaries. (Voters later repealed these legislative restrictions through another ballot initiative in 2016).

2021 (Recreational): Following the 2020 approval of recreational cannabis, conservative lawmakers enacted House Bill 701, altering how revenue from cannabis taxes would be allocated and adding additional local option oversight rules.

5. Ohio (Recreational Cannabis, 2023)

What Voters Passed: Ohio voters approved Issue 2, a statutory ballot initiative legalizing adult-use cannabis, establishing a regulatory framework, and permitting home cultivation.

Legislative Action: Because Issue 2 was an initiated statute (not a constitutional amendment), conservative lawmakers in the state senate immediately proposed legislation aimed at changing tax rates, capping THC potency levels, restricting home cultivation rules, and redirecting tax revenues away from community equity funds and toward law enforcement and state construction projects.

#137 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2026-10-07 03:00 PM | Reply

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