Tuesday, August 19, 2025

Speaker Vows to Stop California, Ignores Texas

California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Friday proposed new districting maps for California that would only take effect if Texas goes ahead with its plan to gerrymander its voting district map to enable five more Republican house seats.

Posted by retort at 10:22 AM | 87 COMMENTS | permalink

More

[image or embed]

-- Laguna Beach Democratic Club (@lagunabeachdems.bsky.social) Aug 13, 2025 at 12:35 PM

Comments

If Republican policies are so popular, why do they need to redistrict? Run on the policies.

#1 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-08-19 08:21 AM

Recent polls show Californians want to keep the current anti-gerrymandering system, something like 64% vs 34%.

Shooting themselves in the foot by handing power to the GOP that targets California in federal budget cuts and tax increases.

Sometimes idiots get what they deserve. In this case, it will be the idiot Californians who help the GOP into office in 2026 to cement Hair Furor's agenda into our government for another two years, plus 3 generations to undo it.

#2 | Posted by censored at 2025-08-19 08:38 AM

---- off idiot. People like you let the Warsaw ghetto happen.

#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-08-19 09:47 AM

Did he propose a map?

I was under the impression Newsom hadn't released a map.

I have seen quite a few versions.

#4 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-08-19 10:04 AM

If Republican policies are so popular, why do they need to redistrict? Run on the policies.
#1 | Posted by lee_the_agent

You don't understand how districting works do you?

#5 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-08-19 10:05 AM

You don't understand how districting works do you?

Posted by oneironaut at 2025-08-19 10:05 AM | Reply

Oh do STFU. Seriously

#6 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-08-19 10:09 AM

"You don't understand how districting works do you?"

Well, you gonna tell us?

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-19 10:09 AM

Without hypocrisy, the GQP would have nothing.

#8 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-08-19 10:10 AM

You don't understand how districting works do you?

Not American. Post dismissed.

#9 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-08-19 10:12 AM

Sure Californians are against gerrymandering but politics today is too important to let the other side do it without responding in the same way. Gavin Newsom is doing his job by protect the political power of the voters in California. It's just so amazing how Republicans will gerrymander shamelessly and the cry foul when the Democrats do the same thing!

#10 | Posted by danni at 2025-08-19 10:20 AM

There is a big difference between California and Texas (especially highlighted in this matter):

In California the people will decide what is best for them.

In Texas the Goopers will decide what's best for the people.

Enjoying your FAFO yet America?

#11 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 10:25 AM

Derp! Derp Derp! Derp!
#3 | Posted by LegallyYourDead

Pretty much every LYD post.

#12 | Posted by censored at 2025-08-19 10:27 AM

Pretty much every LYD post.

#12 | Posted by censored at 2025-08-19 10:27 AM | Reply | Flag:

It's just Roger saying all the things he wanted to say over the years without having to use his original handle.

#13 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-08-19 10:51 AM

This entire stupid debacle proves what I've been saying on here for years. Both sides just do what the other side does. No matter how shady one side is, the other side is guaranteed to call them out for it and then DO THE EXACT SAME THING. This has been going on since at least the 70s. They are all freaking stupid. If what Texas is doing is so bad, then vow to make yourselves better. Instead, Dems just devolve to Rep tactics. What makes this situation look worse for Dems is that it's already been proven time and time again that Dem states have gerrymandered like crazy and some of their maps look like children drew them. For Reps, they got their panties in a wad because of cancel culture, then they turned around and decided to do the same with some Dem leaders. If cancel culture is bad, stop doing it yourselves.

The fact so many people cling to one side as if they aren't part of the problem is killing America.

#14 | Posted by humtake at 2025-08-19 11:39 AM

The fact so many people cling to one side as if they aren't part of the problem is killing America.

#14 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

Blah blah both sides are the same blah blah blah..

There are not "two sides" to reality. It's an illusion being used to manipulate you. You have bought into the whole "alternative facts" lie.

You are being manipulated.

Unfortunately it appears to be way beyond your capabilities to understand.

There are more things in heaven and earth than dreamt of in your philosophy.

Enjoy your FAFO.

#15 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 11:47 AM

Blah blah both sides are the same blah blah blah..
There are not "two sides" to reality. It's an illusion being used to manipulate you. You have bought into the whole "alternative facts" lie.
You are being manipulated.

#15 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 11:47 AM | Reply | Flag:
(Choose

Yes, Illinois redistricting was done on a fair and above board way. I'm sure you still think Schiff has the evidence, there is a pee tape and Hunter's laptop wasn't Hunter's laptop. Moron.

#16 | Posted by fishpaw at 2025-08-19 12:25 PM

Without hypocrisy, the GQP would have nothing.

#8 | Posted by Nixon

Illinois
Party Democratic Republican
Last election 14 3
Seats won 14 3
Seat change Steady Steady
Popular vote 2,829,169 2,517,389
Percentage 52.78% 46.97%

ps What is the meaning of misspelling GOP? I don't get it. It looks stupid.

#17 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-08-19 12:32 PM

Daddysfist, why do you keep changing your username?

#18 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-08-19 12:35 PM

This has to be very unsettling for a lot of people.

because they understand 2 things...

1. California won't go through with this
2. Texas will

#19 | Posted by eberly at 2025-08-19 12:36 PM

The unsettling part is that the left cant gerrymander their way out of this. If they could, they would quit crying and do something.

When Carville calls you retarded, listen to him.

#20 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-08-19 12:40 PM

Texas is already gerrymandered blue

Party Republican Democratic
Last election 25 13
Seats won 25 13
Popular vote 6,235,017 4,311,123
Percentage 58.41% 40.39%

40% blue but 52% blue reps

#21 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-08-19 12:41 PM

1. California won't go through with this
2. Texas will

POSTED BY EBERLY

Well we will see won't we wishy washy Beverly?

California IS going to go thru with it.

The question is will Californians vote for it.

I can guarantee LA will. And I can guarantee I will.

But we haven't always made the right choices here either. Because we are humans and many here are easily manipulated by misinformation too.

#22 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 12:45 PM

Typical cry baby fascists can't take their own medicine.

#23 | Posted by 2020Rocks at 2025-08-19 12:45 PM

"California IS going to go thru with it.
The question is will Californians vote for it."

voting for it is what I mean by going through with it.

#24 | Posted by eberly at 2025-08-19 12:47 PM

If they could, they would quit crying and do something.

I am not sure what will come of it yet.

It has definitely brought the issue to the forefront again. At least for a few minutes until Trumpy pulls some new shenanigan.

But regardless of the outcome they sure are making YOU squirm and cry a lot about it.

It's quite enjoyable to watch.

#25 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 12:49 PM

voting for it is what I mean by going through with it.
#24 | POSTED BY EBERLY

And said with such dignity too!

I would bet it depends on how much money the goopers and the so called Christians can pump into spreading misinformation and creating divisions in CA.

But again. We will see.

#26 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 12:53 PM

40% blue but 52% blue reps
#21 | Posted by easy_meat

25 Republicans and 13 Democrats
Thats 52% Democrats.
--Republicans

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-19 12:54 PM

Florida
Popular Vote
Republican 56%
Democratic 43%

Florida House
Republican 87
Democratic 32

Texas

Popular Vote
R 56%
D 42%

House seats (before this scam)
R 25
D 13

We can do this all day long.

#28 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-08-19 12:56 PM

Both sides just do what the other side does. No matter how shady one side is, the other side is guaranteed to call them out for it and then DO THE EXACT SAME THING.
#14 | Posted by humtake

Not exactly the same.
Democrats don't govern by Executive Order.
Democrats don't raise taxes on the poor and the middle class, to pay for tax cuts to the rich.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-19 12:56 PM

-And said with such dignity too!

always.

I know.....it's a bridge too far for you.

#30 | Posted by eberly at 2025-08-19 12:58 PM

oops wrong math on tejas...
screw bluew anyway tejas is rural

#31 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-08-19 12:58 PM

Easy Smeat thinks 13 out of 38 seats is 52%

GQP Maff.

#32 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-08-19 12:59 PM

Democrats don't govern by Executive Order.
Democrats don't raise taxes on the poor and the middle class, to pay for tax cuts to the rich.

#29 | Posted by snoofy

Each of these statements is incorrect.
Every president rules via E.O., and dems want to raise taxes on everybody.

#33 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-08-19 01:01 PM

"Every president rules via E.O."

Not like Trump!
Not even Trump 1.0 was this insane.

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-19 01:02 PM

So now the GQP wants the seats to be 8 democrats and 30 republicans because Sh*tler demands an additional five because he said so.

So the GOP will control 79% of the seats to represent 56% of the voters.

#35 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-08-19 01:02 PM

#14 | Posted by humtake

Typical humtake.

- Republicans do something
- Democrats do the same

humtake: Dems Dems Dems Dems Dems

#36 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2025-08-19 01:03 PM

Executive orders:

Sh*tler 2.0 191 in 8 months
Biden 162 in four years

#37 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-08-19 01:08 PM

The same Speaker who has one of the most violent cities in the US in his district and hasn't done squat about it? Isn't sending the National Guard there? Isn't doing much of anything?

More relevant, the Speaker from a state whose gerrymandering was so god-awful even the conservative Fifth Circuit Federal Appeals court just blocked it?

www.yahoo.com

#38 | Posted by YAV at 2025-08-19 01:15 PM

The selective outrage of the wing dings is quite amusing.

Without hypocrisy they stand for nothing.

#39 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-08-19 01:16 PM

I know.....it's a bridge too far for you.

#30 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Sarcasm. It's way above you.

#40 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 01:20 PM

Grand Queer Party?
Is that the joke?

#41 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-08-19 01:21 PM

Gay Queer Party?

#42 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-08-19 01:21 PM

Goofy ----- Puffers?

#43 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-08-19 01:22 PM

Daddysfist is a QAnon-tard.

#44 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-08-19 01:22 PM

Giant Quackin Penguins?

#45 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-08-19 01:23 PM

- Is that the joke?

Not to worry. It won't replace you.

#46 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-19 01:26 PM

-----.

#44 | Posted by reinheitsgebot

Really? We're insulting '----- now?
My wife was ----ed, She's a pilot now.

#47 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-08-19 01:27 PM

Mystery_Meat.

Kinda like some RFK jr road kill.

Rotten and grisly and gross and no one knows what the hell it is and where it came from.

#48 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 01:27 PM

#46 | Posted by Corky

Hi Corky! Thanks for not cancel-filing me! (I knew you wouldn't xoxo)

#49 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-08-19 01:31 PM

Really? We're insulting '----- now?

Where the frack have you been? Just come out from under a rock?

The R word has been freed by Trumpy and the maga maroons along with a few others. The N word is still in ------- tho.

Maybe Trumpy will pardon that word soon, too.

#50 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 01:31 PM

Mystery_Meat.

is a raciss dogwhistle donnerboy.

#51 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-08-19 01:32 PM

Your are too easy to slap around to killfile... yet.

But it always happens eventually.

#52 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-19 01:33 PM

#50 | Posted by donnerboy

OIC we can say "------" here now because trump?!
...Lemme try-
------

#53 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-08-19 01:34 PM

Mystery_Meat.

is a raciss dogwhistle donnerboy.

#51 | POSTED BY EASY_MEAT

And look who came running!

Good boy.

Sit. Stay.

#54 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 01:35 PM

#52 | Posted by Corky

sLAP THE ---- OUT OF ME DADDY!

(GIF OF FROG WIPING BROW)

#55 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-08-19 01:35 PM

OIC we can say "------" here now because trump?!
...Lemme try-
------
#53 | POSTED BY EASY_MEAT

Good boy!

Now try the N word.

#56 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 01:36 PM

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!

#57 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-08-19 01:36 PM

N

#58 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-08-19 01:37 PM

#55

No need to... you are a self immolating sock. Always have been.

#59 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-19 01:38 PM

Coward.

#60 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 01:38 PM

IT'S FUNNY, I HAD A USERNAME "LOOK_INWARD" AND NO ONE GOT IT.

#61 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-08-19 01:39 PM

I

#62 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-08-19 01:40 PM

LOOK, INWARD, ALL YOU GUYS DO IS PICK ON ME ANYWAY

#63 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-08-19 01:41 PM

... and the burnout begins.

#64 | Posted by Corky at 2025-08-19 01:42 PM

Don't do ketamine and post kids.

#65 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-08-19 01:42 PM

Anyway, somebody check the math on Illinois gerrymandering, THEN cry about hypocrisy.

Party Democratic Republican
Last election 14 3
Seats won 14 3
Seat change Steady Steady
Popular vote 2,829,169 2,517,389
Percentage 52.78% 46.97%

#66 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-08-19 01:47 PM

BTW this was my starting point before YOU ALL turned it into a roast per usual, to bury and ignore the salient fact that Dems have always been the worst gangster gerrymanders.

#67 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-08-19 01:49 PM

I think you can still figure out the table even with this ------- site censoring space bars.

#68 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-08-19 01:51 PM

Dems have always been the worst gangster gerrymanders.
#67 | Posted by easy_meat

But you don't have a problem with Gerrymandering.
So calling someone the best at it doesn't really make sense.

#69 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-19 01:57 PM

"ignore the salient fact that Dems have always been the worst gangster gerrymanders"

Dear mystery_meat,

If you have nothing but to share but easily debunked lies then you should expect to be ridiculed.

#70 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 02:01 PM

No, both sides don't gerrymander the same

www.cnn.com

FTA: Republicans pretty clearly benefit more from gerrymandering, and there's an increasingly strong case to be made that they go further in using the tools available to them. Gambits like what Texas is doing are rare, and it's been Republicans who have led the charge

#71 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-08-19 02:06 PM

Why don't we just outlaw districts. Make every office state wide especially the federal level.

It would be incredibly simple. You can only vote for one federal congressman and one state congressman. If the state has 30 federal congressman let 60 people or more run. The top 30 vote getters are elected. You end up with a much fairer system that much more accurately affects the body politic of the state.

Red state that is 55% regional generally? They are far more likely to end up as a 16/14 split Republican-Democrat split.

No need to crack, pack, stack crazy districts.

#72 | Posted by Imshakinitboss at 2025-08-19 06:17 PM

Why don't we just outlaw districts. Make every office state wide especially the federal level.

#72 | Posted by Imshakinitboss

The Republicans would lose a ton of seats. So they will never approve.

#73 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-08-19 07:38 PM

#72

That's possibly the silliest, most ridiculous pile of crap I've ever seen. Do you know what a "constituent" is? Do you understand why Congress exists? The stupidity is stultifying. You ain't from around here, are you boy?

#74 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-08-19 10:22 PM

#72
That's possibly the silliest, most ridiculous pile of crap I've ever seen. Do you know what a "constituent" is? Do you understand why Congress exists? The stupidity is stultifying. You ain't from around here, are you boy?

#74 | Posted by LegallyYourDead

It's quite literally whate everyone else on the planet does, including all the democracies we have set up.

#75 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-08-19 10:38 PM

Russia? Iran? Saudi Arabia? Venezuela? Chile? China? Burma?

#76 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-08-19 10:45 PM

Lie, cheat and steal. Rinse and repeat.

#77 | Posted by fresno500 at 2025-08-20 05:19 AM

74: be honest. Do you actually believe that this would result in a less representative democracy than what we have now? You think a government elected like this would serve the citizens less so than now? Or do you just believe your preferred party would lose seats?

#78 | Posted by Imshakinitboss at 2025-08-20 07:42 AM

"40% blue but 52% blue reps
#21 | Posted by easy_meat
25 Republicans and 13 Democrats
Thats 52% Democrats.
--Republicans
#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-08-19 12:54 PM"

Vernon's calculator strikes again?

#79 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2025-08-20 09:02 AM

"Texas is already gerrymandered blue
Party Republican Democratic
Last election 25 13
Seats won 25 13
Popular vote 6,235,017 4,311,123
Percentage 58.41% 40.39%
40% blue but 52% blue reps
#21 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-08-19 12:41 PM"

Using your percentages:
This should result in 22% red reps; 15 blue reps.

Please explain how this indicates Texas is already gerrymandered blue.

#80 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2025-08-20 09:13 AM

Re: #80

That would result in three less red reps and two additional blue reps: a net change of five reps!

It's becoming more clear why Texas is trying to gerrymander five seats to favor red reps.

#81 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2025-08-20 09:18 AM

Something to think about:

i.imgur.com

Now tell us how 'UNFAIR' Texas is.....

ACTUAL FACTS - something the dems/libs never care to think about before ranting.

#82 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-08-20 09:58 AM

So your argument is: not to be against an unfair and ridiculous process, but point and say: "they cheat so we can too?"

Do away with all Gerrymandering. Make everything statewide. Get 100 on the ticket for congress people can only vote for 1 person and that the top vote getters. That way you are pretty much guaranteed to have the ratio of republican and democrat congressman to reflect almost exactly the ratio of republican to democrat voters.

As you so rightly point out, it would result in tremendous additions of republican seats in all of New England and even heavily blue states like California. But it will also result in large gains of Democrat seats in heavily red states like Texas.

Will it shift the balance of power? I don't know. But what I do know is, the elected representatives are much more likely to redirect the will of the states people.

#83 | Posted by Imshakinitboss at 2025-08-20 11:06 AM

"Elect the top vote getters"

#84 | Posted by Imshakinitboss at 2025-08-20 11:07 AM

California subsidizes all of those impoverished s"hole States run by welfare-loving Repubicans. I'll happily vote for actual representation in Congress, given how many years we've had to endure States like North Dakota having inordinately more influence per capita than we do. Texas Repubicans are doing this because their State has consistently become more blue over time, and the only way Repubicans can stay relevant is to rig the system in their own favor. In a straight-up election, Texas is bluish purple, with more Democrats than Repubicans (what naturally happens when cities get bigger).

#85 | Posted by chuffy at 2025-08-20 12:21 PM

This entire stupid debacle proves what I've been saying on here for years. Both sides just do what the other side does. No matter how shady one side is, the other side is guaranteed to call them out for it and then DO THE EXACT SAME THING.

#14 | Posted by humtake

Yeah everyone remembers how when kamala harris lost, she came up with an elaborate scheme to overthrow democracy and stay in power that resulted in an assault on the capitol.

Idiot.

#86 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-08-20 12:25 PM

Why do Republicans always need to cheat?

#87 | Posted by moder8 at 2025-08-20 01:40 PM

Drudge Retort Headlines

Republicans Scramble for Health Care Plan (59 comments)

Trump Withdraws Support for MTG (43 comments)

Megyn Kelly Eviscerated over Epstein Remark (42 comments)

At Trump's Urging, DOJ Seeks Probe of Epstein Ties with Democrats (24 comments)

Atmospheric River Hits Southern California (17 comments)

Activists Take to Mexico's Streets, Accusing Leaders of Protecting Cartels (15 comments)

Tucker Carlson: Trump Shooter Was a Trump-Backing Radical (14 comments)

Trump TACOs on Bananas and Coffee (14 comments)

Faith Leaders on the Frontlines (13 comments)

The Misleading Story Fox News Told About Portland Before Trump Sent Troops (13 comments)