President Whiny Little Bitch: "Trump rails against NATO, claims to have decimated' Iran's military
The US president has lashed out against NATO after unsuccessfully appealing to other countries to send their navies to secure the Strait of Hormuz.

"The United States has been informed by most of our NATO Allies' that they don't want to get involved with our Military Operation against the Terrorist Regime of Iran," he wrote on his Truth Social platform, claiming that "almost every Country strongly agreed with what we are doing."

"We will protect them, but they will do nothing for us, in particular, in a time of need," he said.

The president again claimed to have "decimated Iran's Military" and leadership.

"Because of the fact that we have had such Military Success, we no longer need,' or desire, the NATO Countries' assistance " WE NEVER DID!" he concluded."

FWIW this ------- is rabidly anti-semitic a nick fuentes friend.

odd how he got a job in the Piggy administration

oh ---- off bill you were schooled on this. You're an ignorant dishonest cult member ----. You are a ------- idiot.

Here is a way to prove it

If that "problem" is real as you frame it

What do YOU propose as a solution?

You won't answer that cause you're a ----

The most common answers I read were some variations of Israel and the US should "build trust" with Iran.
But how does that work when the regime continues to call for Israel's elimination and chants "Death to America"?
Is it prudent to trust someone who says that?
Is postponing the conflict a few more years acceptable or adequate?

#19 | Posted by BillJohnson

This is your brain on religion

This is your brain on maga

This is cultist stupidity

This is immoral, unethical, stupid and vile

Starting a war of aggression because people chanted "death to america" is mind bogglingly "evil"

By your stated beliefs bill you are evil. You are a ------- -------.

In all of your mindless stupid brain farts do you ever consider that Iran can harm us for our crimes?

I truly despise you and your ilk for the harm that you and your ilk are causing to my children's future

Is Iran eventually having "the bomb" acceptable to you?

#22 | Posted by BillJohnson

Yes you stupid ----. Israel has a bomb, North Korea has a bomb, Pakistan has a bomb

If you don't see how Israel and America's war of aggression doesn't threaten the use of a nuclear weapon you are an ignorant fool

Since you have repeatedly shown yourself to be an ignorant fool then this belief further confirms that.

Jpw,
"Iran can blab all it wants about death to anyone it wants."
Is "blabbing" all they have done the last 40 years?
Is "blabbing" all they have been doing just the last few years?

#26 | Posted by BillJohnson

is assassinating a country's leader evil?

is attacking a country TWICE in the midst of negotiations without warning or declaration evil?

is overthrowing a country's government evil?

We did all of that

What is the solution to a regime that openly calls for Israel's elimination and chants "Death to America"?

#28 | Posted by BillJohnson

Asked and answered you stupid ------- ----.

You were schooled and eventually ran from the thread, and as predicted you are here presenting the same lie

You're scum because you lie and support evil.

GFY

The stupid ---- doesn't realize Iran has MAD WITHOUT a nuke as evident by the destruction they are inflicting how.

He dumbass do you realize that Iran could drop a bomb or 2 into Israel's nuclear plant and cause a nuclear explosion similar to what ever Israel could do? that that nuclear explosion would destroy Israel.

No one should take bill's question seriously. I did last week and had a discussion with him over 2 days. I honestly took the question seriously. I ripped his question to shreds-he could offer absolutely zero justification or support for his position, could not even explain his position and finally fell back on some religious nonsense. His position and the question changed significantly throughout the debate. FWIW I was respectful for most of the debate as I assumed good faith on his side.

Bill, like jeff is not a good person.

Again bill be a man and take a stand

If that "problem" is real as you frame it
What do YOU propose as a solution?
You won't answer that cause you're a ----

#17 | Posted by truthhurts a

Be a man and explain your argument. Be a man and make a declarative statement

Be a man

Bill is the type of ------- who farts on a crowded elevator as he leaves and door closes.

Truth,
"Be a man and explain your argument. Be a man and make a declarative statement"
I'm the one asking a question.
#42 | Posted by BillJohnson

See, I told you you are a ----

You asked a question, based on a world view

Defend that world view

Declare your position.

If you were a man you would do that

You won't cause you're a ----.

Truth,
Why don't you "be a man" and offer an idea instead of insults?

#44 | Posted by BillJohnson a

I did you lying piece of ----.

I spend 2 days answering your series of questions, despite the question changing

And here you are again.

You aer a ------ human being.

Truth,
"Bill is the type of ------- who farts on a crowded elevator as he leaves and the door closes."
That's colorful.
Do you have something to say, or just more insults?

#47 | Posted by BillJohnson a

Read the previous thread you pustule

You are unworthy of honest discussion

Because you cannot be honest

You cannot honestly defend your position

You are clearly a troll you ----

"You cannot honestly defend your position"
What position?
You just accused me of not declaring my position?
Make up your mind already.

#51 | Posted by BillJohnson

the position underlying your question stupid

You are truly dumb yet you think you are not

Will get back later...time for errands.
#49 | Posted by BillJohnson

---- u ----

Trump is taking a different approach, whether you agree or not.
#56 | Posted by BillJohnson

Do you support that different approach?

See I can be respectful when you make a declarative statement

Responding to the garbage poster who calls itself "billjohnson" is a fools errand.
WTF do you clowns think you are going accomplish by indulging this complete idiot?

#70 | Posted by Angrydad

fwiw sometimes countering the trolls allows me to clarify my understanding of an issue.

Iran is blowing up oil tankers.
Any response to that?

#73 | Posted by BillJohnson

Yes, America should apologize to Iran for starting a war of aggression and killing their country's leaders.

America should pay reparations and lift sanctions (as will be required by Iran).

Trump should be impeached and removed from office.

Trump and Netanyahu should be tried and convicted and jailed for crimes against peace.

You don't find that answer satisfactory?

Truth,
So you condone Iran's actions as justified?
All I've done is ask questions.
#80 | Posted by BillJohnson

Did I say that you lying ----?

You asked what MY response was to Iran targeting tankers.

I answered with the truth. this war is a crime

Iran is defending itself

Iran is acting in their own best interests in the most effective way possible.

Whose fault is it that Iran is targeting tankers? Trump and Netanyahu because they attacked Iran without warning and without justification.

All you've done is ask questions

Like a punk. Like a ----. Like a troll.

Be a man

Take a stand

Express a definitive opinion.

Do you support Israel and America attacking Iran without warning, in the midst of negotiations, targeting and assassinating Iran's leaders?

Well, do you?

Me opinion is that they shouldn't have. That that act was illegal and immoral.

What say you?

I have zero respect for adults who refuse to take a stand on stuff like this.

You forget I voted democrat all that time until Trump.
It was posters on this site who showed me I was no longer one of them.

#85 | Posted by BillJohnson

Dodge

How many cubans will die because Piggy stopped them from getting oil?

How immoral is it if Piggy invades and takes control of Cuba?

See just asking questions.

Truth,
Your claim that Iran was negotiating in good faith isn't something either of us can really prove or disprove.
You and I don't know. But if history is any indication, they have not shown much sincerity.
Whether Israel's attack on Iran was illegal or immoral is a separate debate, but it appears justified to me.
The US had a president willing to fight for peace, and I believe in that concept. I don't automatically oppose what Israel and the US are doing.
However, now that things have gone this far, we should be in it to win it.

#93 | Posted by BillJohnso

Dodge

Your claim that Iran was negotiating in good faith isn't something either of us can really prove or disprove.
You and I don't know. But if history is any indication, they have not shown much sincerity.

LOLOLOLOLO

Yes, the country that was negotiating and was attacked TWICE without warning, without a declaration of war DURING NEGOTIATIONS was the one not negotiating in good faith.

You would have to be a special type of idiot to believe that the country that had already entered an agreement which Piggy withdrew from unilaterally was not negotiating in good faith

You need to get your head examined. I would say you also need to speak to a priest about your morality but that has failed you to date.

Whether Israel's attack on Iran was illegal or immoral is a separate debate, but it appears justified to me.

You can't even frame ---- correctly

NOT Israel's attack

ISRAEL AND AMERICA's attack

and let's be clear there are objective measures of the justification for a war

Legality most importantly of all but morally as well

Provide justification for America and Israel attacking Iran

Then provide justification for doing so without warning during negotiations

Then provide justification for murdering Iran's leaders

I bet you can't

I bet you won't

You want know why I think that?

Nah just a ----

It's hilarious that Piggy is condemning the counterterrorism czar as terrible

The guy he put in there

Does piggy accept responsibility for anything?

Truth,
Sometimes you just have to pick a side and go with it.
I see which side you've chosen.

#102 | Posted by BillJohnson a

what an incredibly stupid thing to say

You don't even understand how stupid you sound.

Really well and truly pathetic.

I mean deeply, disturbingly ignorant.

Seriously, you should not participate in public forums, not even vote.

Truth,
You need to read up on why Trump acted when he did concerning Isreal.

#104 | Posted by BillJohnson

HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Now that gave me a belly laugh

Son, I doubt anyone on this board is more informed than I am on this whole Iran war thing

I am curious why do YOU think Piggy acted when he did "concerning Israel", which is in of itself is an odd framing.

Truth,
"what an incredibly stupid thing to say"
You're on one side or the other.
"Be a man" and pick a side.
Though I already know who you support and who you don't.

#108 | Posted by BillJohnson

I do not nor will I ever side with a fascist.

I have learned enough to know that is the moral choice.

I unequivocably stand in opposition to Piggy and Netanyahu.

I wonder about the souls of those who don't agree with me.

And you still are opposed to the actions of US and Isreal?
#111 | Posted by BillJohnson

Conducting an illegal war of aggression, attacking a nation during negotiations without warning or declaration, murdering the leaders of that nation? Oh and conducting and funding a genocide?

And conducting said war stupidly, without any recognizable object (at least for Piggy) and threatening the global order?

Yeah, I am pretty comfortable with my stance.

You being comfortable with the opposite says a lot about you

However, now that things have gone this far, we should be in it to win it.
#93 | Posted by BillJohnson

To win one must have objectives

What are America's objectives?

Can YOU explain them? in 104 you implied you know them

Once you state them we can discuss how they will be achieved

You won't state them though.

Truth,
"I wonder about the souls of those who don't agree with me."
Hmmm....
We'll leave it at that.
#114 | Posted by BillJohnson

You don't see a problem with the souls of those who support fascism?

I would LOVE for Bill to state what he thinks the objectives of this war are.

I would love to have that debate, seriously.

DING DING DING DING AU, well noted

As I predicted Bill refused to answer my question.

I see bill refuses to answer my question

Magat scum troll ----- are the worst human beings on the planet

Go ---- yourself you lying piece of ----

jesus told me you're going to burn in hell

The ------- ---- continues to lie that his "question" wasn't answered

That means bill is a troll

A troll is a ----

I mean...liberal's hatred for Trump and the GOP to so great, they will defend Iran.

I hate fascists. Why don't you?

I'm not easily influenced.

Having a brain made of ---- will have that effect.

Lo! Death has reared himself a throne
In a strange city lying alone
Far down within the dim West,
Where the good and the bad and the worst and the best
Have gone to their eternal rest.
There shrines and palaces and towers
(Time-eaten towers and tremble not!)
Resemble nothing that is ours.
Around, by lifting winds forgot,
Resignedly beneath the sky
The melancholy waters lie.

In a strange city lying alone
Far down within the dim West,
Where the good and the bad and the worst and the best
Have gone to their eternal rest.
There shrines and palaces and towers
(Time-eaten towers and tremble not!)
Resemble nothing that is ours.
Around, by lifting winds forgot,
Resignedly beneath the sky
The melancholy waters lie.

No rays from the holy Heaven come down
On the long night-time of that town;
But light from out the lurid sea
Streams up the turrets silently"
Gleams up the pinnacles far and free"
Up domes"up spires"up kingly halls"
Up fanes"up Babylon-like walls"
Up shadowy long-forgotten bowers
Of sculptured ivy and stone flowers"
Up many and many a marvellous shrine
Whose wreathed friezes intertwine
The viol, the violet, and the vine.
Resignedly beneath the sky
The melancholy waters lie.
So blend the turrets and shadows there
That all seem pendulous in air,
While from a proud tower in the town
Death looks gigantically down.

There open fanes and gaping graves
Yawn level with the luminous waves;
But not the riches there that lie
In each idol's diamond eye"
Not the gaily-jewelled dead
Tempt the waters from their bed;
For no ripples curl, alas!
Along that wilderness of glass"
No swellings tell that winds may be
Upon some far-off happier sea"
No heavings hint that winds have been
On seas less hideously serene.

But lo, a stir is in the air!
The wave"there is a movement there!
As if the towers had thrust aside,
In slightly sinking, the dull tide"
As if their tops had feebly given
A void within the filmy Heaven.
The waves have now a redder glow"
The hours are breathing faint and low"
And when, amid no earthly moans,
Down, down that town shall settle hence,
Hell, rising from a thousand thrones,
Shall do it reverence.

Truth,
At least I don't resort to insults.

#157 | Posted by BillJohnson

You have earned my disdain with interest.

When you resort to lies and trolling you mark yourself as unworthy of respect.

There was a discussion that ----------- was a group alias.

billj seems consistently with his syntax. I don't see the same writing style

Time and again I have said that my opinion about Jan 6 is, simply, the break-in would not have occurred were it not for mail-in ballots used extensively due to COVID. It created widespread doubt in the election results. And I am f****** tired of people saying the only reason anyone thought that is because of Trump. That is a stupid assertion. People are plenty capable of thinking without Trump or the GOP telling them what to think.
TH: You are absolutely wrong. IF Piggy and his minions had simply accepted the results like every other losing presidential candidate in our nation's history, then NOTHING would have happened. There would have been NO mistrust of mail-in ballots because the only reason there IS mistrust over mail-in ballots is because Piggy and the right wing minions lied about them for months.

That being said, mailing ballots to all registered voters and then sending uncounted completed ballots back through the mail is a disaster waiting to happen. Small scale, such as absentee ballots, will not likely create mass hysteria such as what could happen on a larger scale if ballots did get lost or destroyed (accidentally or on purpose).

TH: Not it is not a disaster waiting to happen. The system is set up to monitor each and every ballot. Each ballot is uniquely identified, and each ballot is signed and that signature is compared to the signature on the registration, like you do in person. Since the ballot is individually identified then the ballot can be tracked from sending to receipt back. Each individual can confirm that their ballot was received and counted.

A disaster cannot happen.
That is a simple fact, that only simpletons don't understand

Arguing these sort of points doesn't change the fact it is still more risky than voting in person where you vote is counted immediately.

Define risky.

Isn't it more risky that a person will not be able to vote due to voting lines at precincts or day of problems with voting machines?