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"I cannot in good conscience support the ongoing war in Iran. Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation, and it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby," [director of the National Counterterrorism Center Joe] Kent wrote.

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Joe Kent, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, resigns over Iran war.

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"I cannot in good conscience support the ongoing war in Iran. Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation, and it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby," Kent wrote.

What a rino.

#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-03-17 11:21 AM | Reply

I'm not saying it as fact until there are better sources, but rumor has it that lots of military personnel are getting ready to refuse orders over this "excursion", as well.

#2 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2026-03-17 11:33 AM | Reply

Gotta resign before the Sleeper Cell gets me!

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-17 11:34 AM | Reply

#2 I saw a meme where National Guard who don't use drugs
are smoking pot on purpose
so they will fail the drug test and get kicked out
before they get sent to Iran.

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-17 11:37 AM | Reply

Re 4

Just tell your sgt that you believe in and support DEI then pack your bags.

#5 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-03-17 11:42 AM | Reply

Moses Mikey came out said that the director of the National Counterterrorism Center was obviously wrong, and Mikey knows best.

This is what loyalty to the Pres rather than to the Country looks like... at least Mitch later admitted he was wrong... for about 5 mins on the Sen Floor.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-17 11:46 AM | Reply

PFC: Sarge, I can't go into combat. I believe I am a woman.

Boaz: I'll be the judge of that. Let me smell your feet.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-17 11:57 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Joe Kent is not a Biden holdover. He is Trump's handpicked selection for the job. In 2022, with Trump's endorsement, he primaried the incumbent US Rep in Washington's 3rd district only to lose the seat in the general in 2022. He also won the nomination with Trump's endorsement in 2024 but again lost in the general.

#8 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2026-03-17 11:58 AM | Reply

By day's end this guy will be branded as a loser, low-life, stupid, bad golfer, unknown to the President and his advisors, with an ugly wife, dim children, small house, bad breath and ill-fitting suits by our projector in chief. A few more days of a Dotard in charge of this mistake of a war and others will follow him...

#9 | Posted by catdog at 2026-03-17 12:06 PM | Reply

Another view from The Hill ...

Johnson refutes Joe Kent on Iran: 'There was clearly an imminent threat'
thehill.com

... Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) on Tuesday refuted former National Counterterrorism Center Director Joe Kent's assertion that Iran posted no imminent threat to the U.S. before President Trump ordered strikes on the country.

"I'm on the Gang of Eight. I got all the briefings. We all understood there was clearly an imminent threat," Johnson said in a press conference, referring to the classified briefings provided to top Congressional leaders.

"I don't know where Joe Kent is getting his information, but he wasn't in those briefings, clearly," Johnson said.

Other top Democrats who were in those Gang of Eight briefings, however, have disagreed with Johnson and said they were not presented evidence that the U.S. was under threat of an imminent attack from Iran. ...


#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-03-17 12:10 PM | Reply

@#10 ... "I'm on the Gang of Eight. I got all the briefings. We all understood there was clearly an imminent threat," Johnson said in a press conference, ...

Apparently, "we all" in the Gang of Eight did not see that imminent threat.

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-03-17 12:12 PM | Reply

President Whiny Little Bitch: "Trump rails against NATO, claims to have decimated' Iran's military
The US president has lashed out against NATO after unsuccessfully appealing to other countries to send their navies to secure the Strait of Hormuz.

"The United States has been informed by most of our NATO Allies' that they don't want to get involved with our Military Operation against the Terrorist Regime of Iran," he wrote on his Truth Social platform, claiming that "almost every Country strongly agreed with what we are doing."

"We will protect them, but they will do nothing for us, in particular, in a time of need," he said.

The president again claimed to have "decimated Iran's Military" and leadership.

"Because of the fact that we have had such Military Success, we no longer need,' or desire, the NATO Countries' assistance " WE NEVER DID!" he concluded."

#12 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 12:14 PM | Reply

- "I got all the briefings"

Yeah he did... all the Trump Loyalists told him that was Trump-Approved.

This is Mealy-Mouthed Mike setting up an excuse to say that he depended on the Admin's people, who let him down.

#13 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-17 12:15 PM | Reply

FWIW this asshole is rabidly anti-semitic a nick fuentes friend.

odd how he got a job in the Piggy administration

#14 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 12:17 PM | Reply

.. Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.)..."I'm on the Gang of Eight. I got all the briefings.
#10 | Posted by LampLighter

Is this the same briefings from the "greatest experts" that, according to Trump, had no idea that Iran might strike neighboring countries if the US attacked?

#15 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2026-03-17 12:38 PM | Reply

I asked this question earlier and never really got an answer.

What is the solution to the fact that the Iranian regime openly calls for Israel to be eliminated presumably along with the people who live there?

This is not a minor policy disagreement. It is a fundamental goal of their government.

They also openly call for "Death to America."

So what exactly is the solution?

Diplomacy? Containment? Regime change?

I'm genuinely asking, because ignoring the problem isn't a solution. It's just pushing it down the road until the next war.

#16 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 12:41 PM | Reply

oh fuck off bill you were schooled on this. You're an ignorant dishonest cult member fuck. You are a fucking idiot.

Here is a way to prove it

If that "problem" is real as you frame it

What do YOU propose as a solution?

You won't answer that cause you're a cunt

#17 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 12:44 PM | Reply

Diplomacy? Containment? Regime change?
I'm genuinely asking, because ignoring the problem isn't a solution. It's just pushing it down the road until the next war.

Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 12:41 PM | Reply

Diplomacy really works just ask Obama. Of course you would rather do what Trump is doing because you're in the Trump cult. Sad to see.

#18 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2026-03-17 12:46 PM | Reply

The most common answers I read were some variations of Israel and the US should "build trust" with Iran.

But how does that work when the regime continues to call for Israel's elimination and chants "Death to America"?

Is it prudent to trust someone who says that?

Is postponing the conflict a few more years acceptable or adequate?

#19 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 12:56 PM | Reply

Is it prudent to trust someone who says that?
Is postponing the conflict a few more years acceptable or adequate?

Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 12:56 PM | Reply

I freaking knew that you would side with Trump over doing the rational thing and jaw jaw instead of war war. Typical cultist mentality.

#20 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2026-03-17 01:00 PM | Reply

What is the solution to the fact that the Iranian regime openly calls for Israel to be eliminated presumably along with the people who live there?
This is not a minor policy disagreement. It is a fundamental goal of their government.
They also openly call for "Death to America."
So what exactly is the solution?
Diplomacy? Containment? Regime change?
I'm genuinely asking, because ignoring the problem isn't a solution. It's just pushing it down the road until the next war.

#16 | Posted by BillJohnson

Of course, dips*&^ here wants more forever war after we finally got out of two decades of it without anything to show for it.

GFY Bill. There was no threat. Iran can blab all it wants about death to anyone it wants. Still doesn't justify this horrifically perpetrated war and the fact that there's no off ramp.

#21 | Posted by jpw at 2026-03-17 01:00 PM | Reply

Laura,

"Diplomacy really works just ask Obama."

Did Obama solve the problem or simply postpone it?

The 2015 nuclear deal limited Iran's enrichment and allowed international inspections for a period of years.

But the restrictions were temporary.

Iran's long-term capability to develop nuclear weapons was never eliminated.

Is Iran eventually having "the bomb" acceptable to you?

#22 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 01:02 PM | Reply

STFU Bill. Stupid pile of s*&^ opinions have no value here.

Especially from somebody who has zero skin in the game.

#23 | Posted by jpw at 2026-03-17 01:04 PM | Reply

Is Iran eventually having "the bomb" acceptable to you?

Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 01:02 PM | Reply

Yes yes yes yes yes I want them to get the bomb. We don't attack countries that can bomb us and or our allies. Yes please do get the bomb.

#24 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2026-03-17 01:05 PM | Reply

The most common answers I read were some variations of Israel and the US should "build trust" with Iran.
But how does that work when the regime continues to call for Israel's elimination and chants "Death to America"?
Is it prudent to trust someone who says that?
Is postponing the conflict a few more years acceptable or adequate?

#19 | Posted by BillJohnson

This is your brain on religion

This is your brain on maga

This is cultist stupidity

This is immoral, unethical, stupid and vile

Starting a war of aggression because people chanted "death to america" is mind bogglingly "evil"

By your stated beliefs bill you are evil. You are a fucking asshole.

In all of your mindless stupid brain farts do you ever consider that Iran can harm us for our crimes?

I truly despise you and your ilk for the harm that you and your ilk are causing to my children's future

#25 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 01:05 PM | Reply

Jpw,

"Iran can blab all it wants about death to anyone it wants."

Is "blabbing" all they have done the last 40 years?

Is "blabbing" all they have been doing just the last few years?

#26 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 01:06 PM | Reply

Is Iran eventually having "the bomb" acceptable to you?

#22 | Posted by BillJohnson

Yes you stupid fuck. Israel has a bomb, North Korea has a bomb, Pakistan has a bomb

If you don't see how Israel and America's war of aggression doesn't threaten the use of a nuclear weapon you are an ignorant fool

Since you have repeatedly shown yourself to be an ignorant fool then this belief further confirms that.

#27 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 01:07 PM | Reply

Truth,

Personal insults don't answer the question.

What is the solution to a regime that openly calls for Israel's elimination and chants "Death to America"?

#28 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 01:08 PM | Reply

Jpw,
"Iran can blab all it wants about death to anyone it wants."
Is "blabbing" all they have done the last 40 years?
Is "blabbing" all they have been doing just the last few years?

#26 | Posted by BillJohnson

is assassinating a country's leader evil?

is attacking a country TWICE in the midst of negotiations without warning or declaration evil?

is overthrowing a country's government evil?

We did all of that

#29 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 01:09 PM | Reply

Israel has something between 100 and 200 nuke warheads... so what if Iran gets nukes?

Are they going to use them? NO! That would be MAD; mutually assured destruction.

Israel is tired of having Iran finance terrorists against them, but conventional warfare can settle that if it must.

#30 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-17 01:10 PM | Reply

What is the solution to a regime that openly calls for Israel's elimination and chants "Death to America"?

#28 | Posted by BillJohnson

Asked and answered you stupid fucking cunt.

You were schooled and eventually ran from the thread, and as predicted you are here presenting the same lie

You're scum because you lie and support evil.

GFY

#31 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 01:10 PM | Reply

Bill:
WTF do you think WE have been doing since the 1950s?
spoiler alert:
regime change
terrorism
funding subversives to get the leaders we want
spying
propaganda
torture
spouting anti-Islam while embracing genocide in Pro-Israel hoopla
invading countries and killing many thousands, far more than Iran has done

#32 | Posted by e1g1 at 2026-03-17 01:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

The stupid fuck doesn't realize Iran has MAD WITHOUT a nuke as evident by the destruction they are inflicting how.

He dumbass do you realize that Iran could drop a bomb or 2 into Israel's nuclear plant and cause a nuclear explosion similar to what ever Israel could do? that that nuclear explosion would destroy Israel.

#33 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 01:12 PM | Reply

No one should take bill's question seriously. I did last week and had a discussion with him over 2 days. I honestly took the question seriously. I ripped his question to shreds-he could offer absolutely zero justification or support for his position, could not even explain his position and finally fell back on some religious nonsense. His position and the question changed significantly throughout the debate. FWIW I was respectful for most of the debate as I assumed good faith on his side.

Bill, like jeff is not a good person.

#34 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 01:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

is assassinating a country's leader evil?

is attacking a country TWICE in the midst of negotiations without warning or declaration evil?

is overthrowing a country's government evil?

We did all of that

#29 | Posted by truthhurts

We assassinated their leader TWICE.

Leave it to republicans to try the exact same thing that didn't work last time.

They're still saying tax cuts for the rich will help the working class.

#35 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2026-03-17 01:15 PM | Reply

Truth,

You're just venting now.

I understand why you're frustrated.

It's a frustrating problem that has frustrated leaders for decades.

Why be angry at me for asking this question?

#36 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 01:15 PM | Reply

What is the solution to a regime that openly calls for Israel's elimination and chants "Death to America"?

#28 | Posted by BillJohnson

Whats the solution to russia? Whats the solution to north korea?

Containment and isolation has prevented war for decades.

Then trump needs a distraction from the epstein files and suddenly we must start a war immediately.

#37 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2026-03-17 01:17 PM | Reply


#@22 ... Is Iran eventually having "the bomb" acceptable to you? ...

Apparently, it was acceptable to Pres Trump when he cancelled the treaty during his first term.

Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action
en.wikipedia.org

... The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA...),[5][6] also known as the Iran nuclear deal or Iran deal, was an agreement to limit the Iranian nuclear program in return for sanctions relief and other provisions. The agreement was finalized in Vienna on 14 July 2015, between Iran and the P5+1 (the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) -- China, France, Russia, the U.K., U.S. -- plus Germany)[a] together with the European Union. ...
[emphasis mine]


#38 | Posted by lamplighter at 2026-03-17 01:17 PM | Reply

Again bill be a man and take a stand

If that "problem" is real as you frame it
What do YOU propose as a solution?
You won't answer that cause you're a cunt

#17 | Posted by truthhurts a

Be a man and explain your argument. Be a man and make a declarative statement

Be a man

#39 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 01:17 PM | Reply

Speak,

"They're still saying tax cuts for the rich will help the working class."

That's not the question I asked.

If you want to deflect, that's your choice. I won't be responding to it.

#40 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 01:18 PM | Reply

Respond to #30, BJ.

#41 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-17 01:20 PM | Reply

Truth,

"Be a man and explain your argument. Be a man and make a declarative statement"

I'm the one asking a question.

#42 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 01:21 PM | Reply

Bill is the type of asshole who farts on a crowded elevator as he leaves and door closes.

#43 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 01:21 PM | Reply

Truth,

Why don't you "be a man" and offer an idea instead of insults?

#44 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 01:22 PM | Reply

Truth,
"Be a man and explain your argument. Be a man and make a declarative statement"
I'm the one asking a question.
#42 | Posted by BillJohnson

See, I told you you are a cunt

You asked a question, based on a world view

Defend that world view

Declare your position.

If you were a man you would do that

You won't cause you're a cunt.

#45 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 01:22 PM | Reply

Truth,
Why don't you "be a man" and offer an idea instead of insults?

#44 | Posted by BillJohnson a

I did you lying piece of shit.

I spend 2 days answering your series of questions, despite the question changing

And here you are again.

You aer a shitty human being.

#46 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 01:23 PM | Reply

Truth,

"Bill is the type of asshole who farts on a crowded elevator as he leaves and the door closes."

That's colorful.

Do you have something to say, or just more insults?

#47 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 01:26 PM | Reply

Truth,
"Bill is the type of asshole who farts on a crowded elevator as he leaves and the door closes."
That's colorful.
Do you have something to say, or just more insults?

#47 | Posted by BillJohnson a

Read the previous thread you pustule

You are unworthy of honest discussion

Because you cannot be honest

You cannot honestly defend your position

You are clearly a troll you fuck

#48 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 01:28 PM | Reply

Truth,

Will get back later...time for errands.

#49 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 01:28 PM | Reply

Bernie Sanders
@berniesanders

Joseph Kent, a top counterterrorism official under Trump, just resigned.

Kent and I don't agree on much, but he is right:

"Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation, and it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby."

#50 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-17 01:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Truth,

"You cannot honestly defend your position"

What position?

You just accused me of not declaring my position?

Make up your mind already.

#51 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 01:30 PM | Reply

What is the solution to a regime that openly calls for Israel's elimination and chants "Death to America"?
#28 | POSTED BY BULLJOHNSON

So.

You're saying we started a war with Iran, because of what some Iranians said?

Thats your best argument for an unnecessary, expensive war?

You pedophile protecting cultists are morons.

#52 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-17 01:32 PM | Reply

"You cannot honestly defend your position"
What position?
You just accused me of not declaring my position?
Make up your mind already.

#51 | Posted by BillJohnson

the position underlying your question stupid

You are truly dumb yet you think you are not

#53 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 01:34 PM | Reply

Will get back later...time for errands.
#49 | Posted by BillJohnson

Fuck u cunt

#54 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 01:34 PM | Reply

As damning as this resignation is for the Trump regime this guy was a Tucker Carlson protege and I'm glad he's out of our government.

#55 | Posted by qcp at 2026-03-17 01:35 PM | Reply

Clown,

"Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation"

It's not "imminent"...so you're in the kick-it-down-the-road camp?

Pass the buck...Not my problem...

That's a legitimate approach that's been done for years.

Trump is taking a different approach, whether you agree or not.

#56 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 01:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Trump is taking a different approach, whether you agree or not.
#56 | Posted by BillJohnson

Do you support that different approach?

See I can be respectful when you make a declarative statement

#57 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 01:38 PM | Reply

Trump is taking a different approach, whether you agree or not.
#56 | POSTED BY BULLJOHNSON

He's taking the approach that he needs to distract from the fact he raped children.

You're an idiot who supports Trump raping and murdering children.

#58 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-17 01:46 PM | Reply

By the way,

Neve realized BullJohnson was a NeoCon warmonger.

Just like Jesus wanted.

#59 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-17 01:48 PM | Reply

Truth,

This is the internet. Everything is monitored.

You may notice I try not to get too angry or overly detailed about certain subjects here, especially anything involving violence.

#60 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 01:49 PM | Reply

The most common answers I read were some variations of Israel and the US should "build trust" with Iran.
But how does that work when the regime continues to call for Israel's elimination and chants "Death to America"?
#19 | Posted by BillJohnson

You ask them what their complaint is.

"Is it prudent to trust someone who says that?"

It's about as prudent as trusting someone who says we didn't send a Tomahawk to blow up your school, you stole a Tomahawk and blew up your own school in a false flag attack.

#61 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-17 01:51 PM | Reply

@#56 ... Trump is taking a different approach ...

Lying about the reason he started this war?

#62 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-03-17 01:51 PM | Reply

Clown,

"Never realized BullJohnson was a NeoCon warmonger."

Whoever said Christianity is supposed to be a passive religion?

Jesus taught "turn the other cheek" and "forgive seventy times seven."

But He never taught that wrongdoing should be ignored.

#63 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 01:57 PM | Reply

Israel has something between 100 and 200 nuke warheads... so what if Iran gets nukes?
Are they going to use them? NO! That would be MAD; mutually assured destruction.
Israel is tired of having Iran finance terrorists against them, but conventional warfare can settle that if it must. from #30

to which BJ nor his Lard Trump have no response

#64 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-17 02:00 PM | Reply

Clownshack: "Never realized BullJohnson was a NeoCon warmonger."

BillJohnson: "Whoever said Christianity is supposed to be a passive religion?"

So your only concept of being "active" is to be a warmonger.

Who Would Jesus Bomb?

#65 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-17 02:05 PM | Reply

Whoever said Christianity is supposed to be a passive religion?

Here comes the daily bible study thread derailment.

#66 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-03-17 02:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- Who Would Jesus Bomb?

www.youtube.com

#67 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-17 02:18 PM | Reply

@#52 ... You're saying we started a war with Iran, because of what some Iranians said?

Thats your best argument for an unnecessary, expensive war? ...


An argument that is retroactive in nature, i.e., trying to justify Pres Trump's decision after the decision was made.

The implication is along the lines of ~whatever Pres Trump decides to do is OK.~

#68 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-03-17 02:20 PM | Reply

69!!!

CorkytheAgent

#69 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-17 02:30 PM | Reply

Responding to the garbage poster who calls itself "billjohnson" is a fools errand.

WTF do you clowns think you are going accomplish by indulging this complete idiot?

#70 | Posted by Angrydad at 2026-03-17 02:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Related ...

Trump was warned of likely Iranian retaliation on Gulf allies, sources say
www.reuters.com

... President Donald Trump was warned that attacking Iran could trigger retaliation against U.S. Gulf allies despite his claims on Monday that Tehran's reaction came as a surprise, said a U.S. official and two sources familiar with U.S. intelligence reports.
Pre-war intelligence assessments did not say that Iran's response was "a guarantee, but it certainly was on the list of potential outcomes," said one source, who like the other two requested anonymity to discuss the issue.

The president twice on Monday said that Iran's retaliatory strikes against Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and Kuwait were a surprise, the first time at a Kennedy Center board meeting in the White House.

"They (Iran) weren't supposed to go after all these other countries in the Middle East," he said. "Nobody expected that. We were shocked."

Trump's assertion followed other administration claims that have not been backed by U.S. intelligence reporting, such as that Iran would soon have a missile capable of hitting the U.S. homeland and that it would need two to four weeks to make a nuclear bomb and would then use it.

Those allegations and an imminent threat posed by Iran to the U.S. and its forces in the region have been among varying reasons that Trump and some top aides have given to justify his decision to join Israel in launching their air war against Iran on February 28. ...



#71 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-03-17 02:36 PM | Reply

Responding to the garbage poster who calls itself "billjohnson" is a fools errand.
WTF do you clowns think you are going accomplish by indulging this complete idiot?

#70 | Posted by Angrydad at 2026-03-17 02:33 PM | Reply

100% true.

#72 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-03-17 02:42 PM | Reply

Iran is blowing up oil tankers.

Any response to that?

#73 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 02:46 PM | Reply

Yes. You're stupid.

#74 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-03-17 02:51 PM | Reply

Iran is blowing up oil tankers.
Any response to that?

#73 | Posted by BillJohnson

A country is taking offensive action after being attacked by another country? No one would have thought that would ever happen and we asked the greatest experts.

#75 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2026-03-17 02:56 PM | Reply

Responding to the garbage poster who calls itself "billjohnson" is a fools errand.
WTF do you clowns think you are going accomplish by indulging this complete idiot?

#70 | Posted by Angrydad

fwiw sometimes countering the trolls allows me to clarify my understanding of an issue.

#76 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 03:00 PM | Reply

Iran is blowing up oil tankers.
Any response to that?

#73 | Posted by BillJohnson

Yes, America should apologize to Iran for starting a war of aggression and killing their country's leaders.

America should pay reparations and lift sanctions (as will be required by Iran).

Trump should be impeached and removed from office.

Trump and Netanyahu should be tried and convicted and jailed for crimes against peace.

You don't find that answer satisfactory?

#77 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 03:02 PM | Reply

America should apologize to Iran for starting a war of aggression and killing their country's leaders, during negotiations for peace and nuclear disarmament .

#78 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-03-17 03:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#73 ... Any response to that? ...

After the fact attempt to justify Pres Trump starting the Iran war.

#79 | Posted by LampLighter at 2026-03-17 03:12 PM | Reply

Truth,

So you condone Iran's actions as justified?

All I've done is ask questions.

#80 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 03:16 PM | Reply

Bill Johnson will defend anything Trump does. Even stupid not planned at all wars.

Waste of time. 20 years here and you're clueless, and stuck in a cult.

#81 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-03-17 03:26 PM | Reply

Truth,
So you condone Iran's actions as justified?
All I've done is ask questions.
#80 | Posted by BillJohnson

Did I say that you lying cunt?

You asked what MY response was to Iran targeting tankers.

I answered with the truth. this war is a crime

Iran is defending itself

Iran is acting in their own best interests in the most effective way possible.

Whose fault is it that Iran is targeting tankers? Trump and Netanyahu because they attacked Iran without warning and without justification.

All you've done is ask questions

Like a punk. Like a cunt. Like a troll.

Be a man

Take a stand

Express a definitive opinion.

Do you support Israel and America attacking Iran without warning, in the midst of negotiations, targeting and assassinating Iran's leaders?

Well, do you?

Me opinion is that they shouldn't have. That that act was illegal and immoral.

What say you?

#82 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 03:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

All I've done is ask questions.
#80 | Posted by BillJohnson

The epitaph of a cultist.

#83 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-03-17 03:31 PM | Reply

Me opinion is that they shouldn't have. That that act was illegal and immoral.
What say you?

#82 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 03:30 PM | Reply | Flag

That's sort of default human response to trumps insanity. Watch Bill dodge.

"Well, we did it whether I agree or not so now we have to finish the job and support the troops" or some such garbage will be his response, if he has one at all.

#84 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-03-17 03:32 PM | Reply

Alex,

You forget I voted democrat all that time until Trump.

It was posters on this site who showed me I was no longer one of them.

#85 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 03:33 PM | Reply

I have zero respect for adults who refuse to take a stand on stuff like this.

#86 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 03:34 PM | Reply

You forget I voted democrat all that time until Trump.
It was posters on this site who showed me I was no longer one of them.

#85 | Posted by BillJohnson

Dodge

#87 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 03:34 PM | Reply

You forget I voted democrat all that time until Trump.

You voted for anti gay centrists. Because you're a punk. The party moved to pro gay rights, and you ran to trump.

#88 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-03-17 03:34 PM | Reply

How many cubans will die because Piggy stopped them from getting oil?

How immoral is it if Piggy invades and takes control of Cuba?

See just asking questions.

#89 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 03:37 PM | Reply

Hi Clownshack

Special envoys Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner came friendly and smiling to the Iranians before the nasty surprise hit job, just like mafioso.

Nobody intelligent on the planet trusts those two super-wealthy dirtbags.

as2.ftcdn.net

#90 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-03-17 03:37 PM | Reply

DON'T FEED THE TROLL HE JUST NEEDS ATTENTION.

LIKE A VAMPIRE NEEDS BLOOD.

Exorcism is the answer.

Bill Johnson feeds on Human Blood and the Horrors of Unjust War.

Total Ignore.......

#91 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-03-17 03:42 PM | Reply

"You forget I voted democrat all that time until Trump."

Not true. You left at Obergefell. That was 10 days after Trump came down the escalator; no way you'd decided on Orange Julius Caesar by then.

#92 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-03-17 03:45 PM | Reply

Truth,

Your claim that Iran was negotiating in good faith isn't something either of us can really prove or disprove.

You and I don't know. But if history is any indication, they have not shown much sincerity.

Whether Israel's attack on Iran was illegal or immoral is a separate debate, but it appears justified to me.

The US had a president willing to fight for peace, and I believe in that concept. I don't automatically oppose what Israel and the US are doing.

However, now that things have gone this far, we should be in it to win it.

#93 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 03:51 PM | Reply

Dan,

I voted for Obama twice complete with yard signs.

#94 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 03:51 PM | Reply

Truth,
Your claim that Iran was negotiating in good faith isn't something either of us can really prove or disprove.
You and I don't know. But if history is any indication, they have not shown much sincerity.
Whether Israel's attack on Iran was illegal or immoral is a separate debate, but it appears justified to me.
The US had a president willing to fight for peace, and I believe in that concept. I don't automatically oppose what Israel and the US are doing.
However, now that things have gone this far, we should be in it to win it.

#93 | Posted by BillJohnso

Dodge

#95 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 03:52 PM | Reply

Your claim that Iran was negotiating in good faith isn't something either of us can really prove or disprove.
You and I don't know. But if history is any indication, they have not shown much sincerity.

LOLOLOLOLO

Yes, the country that was negotiating and was attacked TWICE without warning, without a declaration of war DURING NEGOTIATIONS was the one not negotiating in good faith.

You would have to be a special type of idiot to believe that the country that had already entered an agreement which Piggy withdrew from unilaterally was not negotiating in good faith

You need to get your head examined. I would say you also need to speak to a priest about your morality but that has failed you to date.

#96 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 03:58 PM | Reply

Eff,

Troll, vampire, possessed by evil spirits.

You left out space alien and just plain crazy.

But all that in one movie, you'd have a blockbuster.

#97 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 04:00 PM | Reply

Whether Israel's attack on Iran was illegal or immoral is a separate debate, but it appears justified to me.

You can't even frame shit correctly

NOT Israel's attack

ISRAEL AND AMERICA's attack

and let's be clear there are objective measures of the justification for a war

Legality most importantly of all but morally as well

Provide justification for America and Israel attacking Iran

Then provide justification for doing so without warning during negotiations

Then provide justification for murdering Iran's leaders

I bet you can't

I bet you won't

You want know why I think that?

#98 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 04:01 PM | Reply

Just an Attention Whore.

#99 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-03-17 04:01 PM | Reply

Nah just a cunt

#100 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 04:02 PM | Reply

It's hilarious that Piggy is condemning the counterterrorism czar as terrible

The guy he put in there

Does piggy accept responsibility for anything?

#101 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 04:03 PM | Reply

Truth,

Sometimes you just have to pick a side and go with it.

I see which side you've chosen.

#102 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 04:03 PM | Reply

Truth,
Sometimes you just have to pick a side and go with it.
I see which side you've chosen.

#102 | Posted by BillJohnson a

what an incredibly stupid thing to say

#103 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 04:06 PM | Reply

Truth,

You need to read up on why Trump acted when he did concerning Isreal.

#104 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 04:06 PM | Reply

Iran is blowing up oil tankers.
Any response to that?
#73 | Posted by BillJohnson

Did Iran start doing that
before or after
the United States started blowing up Iran?

#105 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-17 04:07 PM | Reply

You don't even understand how stupid you sound.

Really well and truly pathetic.

I mean deeply, disturbingly ignorant.

Seriously, you should not participate in public forums, not even vote.

#106 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 04:07 PM | Reply

Truth,
You need to read up on why Trump acted when he did concerning Isreal.

#104 | Posted by BillJohnson

HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Now that gave me a belly laugh

Son, I doubt anyone on this board is more informed than I am on this whole Iran war thing

I am curious why do YOU think Piggy acted when he did "concerning Israel", which is in of itself is an odd framing.

#107 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 04:09 PM | Reply

Truth,

"what an incredibly stupid thing to say"

You're on one side or the other.

"Be a man" and pick a side.

Though I already know who you support and who you don't.

#108 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 04:10 PM | Reply

You need to read up on why Trump acted when he did concerning Isreal.
#104 | Posted by BillJohnson

When you read up on, what did you learn?
Please share with us what you learned.

#109 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-17 04:10 PM | Reply

Truth,
"what an incredibly stupid thing to say"
You're on one side or the other.
"Be a man" and pick a side.
Though I already know who you support and who you don't.

#108 | Posted by BillJohnson

I do not nor will I ever side with a fascist.

I have learned enough to know that is the moral choice.

I unequivocably stand in opposition to Piggy and Netanyahu.

I wonder about the souls of those who don't agree with me.

#110 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 04:13 PM | Reply

Truth,

"I doubt anyone on this board is more informed than I am on this whole Iran war thing"

And you still are opposed to the actions of US and Isreal?

#111 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 04:13 PM | Reply

However, now that things have gone this far, we should be in it to win it.
#93 | Posted by BillJohnson

Why throw good money after bad?

And: Win what? You can't even tell us what victory looks like.
But here's what it looks like to you:
Iran is permanently erased from the map.

#112 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-17 04:15 PM | Reply

And you still are opposed to the actions of US and Isreal?
#111 | Posted by BillJohnson

Conducting an illegal war of aggression, attacking a nation during negotiations without warning or declaration, murdering the leaders of that nation? Oh and conducting and funding a genocide?

And conducting said war stupidly, without any recognizable object (at least for Piggy) and threatening the global order?

Yeah, I am pretty comfortable with my stance.

You being comfortable with the opposite says a lot about you

#113 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 04:17 PM | Reply

Truth,

"I wonder about the souls of those who don't agree with me."

Hmmm....

We'll leave it at that.

#114 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 04:17 PM | Reply

Truth,

You need to read up on why Trump acted when he did concerning Isreal.

Posted by BillJohnson

Which reason? There have been so many reasons given ...

First it was because they were "two weeks away from having a nuclear weapon" although Trump declared last June it's ability to enrich uranium was "decimated." Whatever they had is under mountains of rubble, and none of it was weapons grade, anyway.

"Iran was going to attack us" is another. There have been at least 12 different reasons given.

So, spell it out, Bill. Which of the many stated reasons is true?

I can think of only ONE that's true: Netanyahu talked him into it.

#115 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-17 04:18 PM | Reply

However, now that things have gone this far, we should be in it to win it.
#93 | Posted by BillJohnson

To win one must have objectives

What are America's objectives?

Can YOU explain them? in 104 you implied you know them

Once you state them we can discuss how they will be achieved

You won't state them though.

#116 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 04:18 PM | Reply

Truth,
"I wonder about the souls of those who don't agree with me."
Hmmm....
We'll leave it at that.
#114 | Posted by BillJohnson

You don't see a problem with the souls of those who support fascism?

#117 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 04:19 PM | Reply

I would LOVE for Bill to state what he thinks the objectives of this war are.

I would love to have that debate, seriously.

#118 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 04:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Truth,
Your claim that Iran was negotiating in good faith isn't something either of us can really prove or disprove.

BJ

In 2018, Trump blew up the 2014 nuclear agreement Iran was abiding by. Inspectors, 24/7 cameras, and other methods were assuring compliance.

The agreement was formally activated on 20 January 2014. That day, an IAEA report stated that Iran was adhering to the interim agreement, including stopping enrichment of uranium to 20%, beginning to dilute half of the stockpile of 20% enriched uranium to 3.5%, and halting work on the Arak heavy-water reactor.

#119 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-17 04:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

DING DING DING DING AU, well noted

#120 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 04:24 PM | Reply

As I predicted Bill refused to answer my question.

#121 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 04:30 PM | Reply

"I wonder about the souls of those who don't agree with me."

BJ

Ours are doing just fine. Christ was a messenger of peace. You aren't.

#122 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-17 04:36 PM | Reply

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the sons of God (Matthew 5:9)."

#123 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-17 04:41 PM | Reply

BJ Boi; I side with people who abide by Agreements, people who don't commit Perfidious Murders of Negotiating Parties.

Even Hitler himself didn't do this, Bibi and Lewser did it TWICE.

Morally they are worse than Hitler.

Think about that. I've picked my side.

Iran, including the Ayatollah and the "Mullahs".

Trump went in, Attacking Civilians,Bombing Hospitals,everything they say Russia did in Ukraine, but Russia didn't have Apparently "successful" Negotiations and then attack and Murder the Supreme Leader of a Religion without any Warning. ZELINSKY has never be targeted.

Followed by a Massive Air Attack on the Entire Country.

Trump is Worse than Attila,Attila had Morals. Caligula more like Trump. EVIL,Psychotic, Self Aggrandizing.

If there's a Hell, Trump and Bibi will Burn There.

No Question.

It's not Ambiguous, there is No Excuse...

#124 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-03-17 04:41 PM | Reply

BJ Boi. Stick your "concern" For people's Souls straight up Your Ass.

You would make an Excellent Inquisitioner, Burning Old Women or Compelling Retractions from great Scientists would suit you Well.

A man of Ignorance, Violence and Moral Turpitude.

Blinded by a Faith you've Never Known.

May ALLAH THE MOST MERCIFUL, have mercy on your Soul.

I Won't.

#125 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-03-17 04:52 PM | Reply

"You would make an Excellent Inquisitioner"

He's got the right mindset for it.

He would like to gently stroke your cheek and wipe away your tears as he puts the noose around your neck.

#126 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-03-17 04:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Eff,

You read wrong.

It's Truth worrying about souls.

#127 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 05:01 PM | Reply

#126 | Posted by snoofy

I call 'em "Torquemada 'Christians' "

#128 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-03-17 05:01 PM | Reply

American,

Reread.

It's Truth who is worried about souls who don't agree with him.

#129 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-03-17 05:05 PM | Reply

Here ya go, BJ.... a third chance to repond:

Israel has something between 100 and 200 nuke warheads... so what if Iran gets nukes?

Are they going to use them? NO! That would be MAD; mutually assured destruction.

Israel is tired of having Iran finance terrorists against them, but conventional warfare can settle that if it must.
#30 | Posted by Corky

#130 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-17 05:08 PM | Reply

Israel and AIPAC are tired of having Iran finance resistance fighters against them when Israel ethnically cleanses Palestinians in the Gaza Strip and the West bank, as well as Shia Muslims in southern Lebanon, but conventional warfare can settle that if it must.
#30 | Posted by Corky

#131 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-03-17 05:18 PM | Reply

I can always use a good Editor.... mine sucks.

#132 | Posted by Corky at 2026-03-17 05:31 PM | Reply

I see bill refuses to answer my question

#133 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-03-17 05:39 PM | Reply

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