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#1 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-04-26 07:54 AM | Reply

If America wins in November, if we fight off the forces of autocratic fascism, the Supreme Court will have to be handled; torn down and remodeled. We can't have it sniping at our democracy hoping to kill it as it now does. We can't have it sanctimoniously handing us legally over into the clutches of a madman. It needs to be packed at minimum.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2024-04-26 07:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

I disagree whole heartedly "we" have not been suffering under an illusion, just pompous fools who have refused to recognize the blatant disregard by the majority of the need for the court to appesr fair and impartial. These corrupt openly, with grins on their faces, accept free trips and gifts which are obviously bribes to everyone except the most extreme psrtisan right wing hacks. The "liberal establishment" is so unwilling to call out the obvious bias of Justices that I wonder if they have been sleeping while hearing cases. What will it take to get these Justices for sale to notice that the American people do not think the present Supreme Court values justice when they are deciding about the lawlessness of Trump. I'm thinking pitchforks in front of the Supreme Court held by huge mobs of normal Americans angry about the court's apparent unwillingness to take the 14th amendment seriously. That amendment isn't vague and we watched as Trump encouraged his crazed MAGA upporters to g which turned out to be a lieo to the Capital and orevent the certification of the election he had clearly lost, even promising he would be thee too which turned out to be a lie but it was clear that he wanted them to prevent Congress from doing their Constitutional duty. The GQP keeps threatening Civil War and the Supreme Court is telling us they won't fairly hear cases about an insurrection we all watched on live national TV so the GQP may get their wish but if that happens the members of the Supreme Court will be responsible because they are making legal remedies useless and allowing insurrectionists to prevent legal elections to have more importance than liars who value their Party over democracy.

#3 | Posted by danni at 2024-04-26 08:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Live by the sword, die by the sword. People were happy to treat the Supreme Court Justices like Kings and the final arbiters of Law and Reality as long as they agreed with them and did exactly what they wanted. Now they're yelling at the sky.

On the other blade, anything that Trump gets immunity for will be a green light for Biden to do the same to stay in power.

#4 | Posted by sentinel at 2024-04-26 08:18 AM | Reply

I have a question for the U.S. Supreme Court.

Let's switch the words around a little bit. So far, they've been talking about immunity for assassinating political rivals or opponents and if that would fall under official duty.

Here's my question:

If a sitting president was unhappy with the way a U.S. Supreme Court Justice was voting, could he have that Justice assassinated under the new immunity clause Trump's lawyer is proposing?

OK, I really have two questions:

If President Biden is re-elected could he have Donald Trump and all his co-conspirators, arrested and executed for treason?

Jus' askin'.

#5 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-04-26 08:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

anything that Trump gets immunity for will be a green light for Biden to do the same to stay in power.

#4 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

It will be a green light for Biden to to the same to stay alive.

If Trump has this sort of immunity it becomes entirely rational for his enemies to kill him. They would be flatly stupid should they not.

#6 | Posted by Zed at 2024-04-26 08:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Two words. The only two words, that seemingly count anymore.

'Partisan Hacks'. No justice in the highest court in the land...

#7 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-04-26 08:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

News flash: Biden wins 2024 election, thanks to (1) voters in the country, or (2) VP Harris nullifying the electoral votes presented to her in January, 2025. What's anyone going to do about #2, since presiding over the electoral college votes is an official act of the VP?

#8 | Posted by catdog at 2024-04-26 09:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

anything that Trump gets immunity for will be a green light for Biden to do the same to stay in power.
#4 | POSTED BY SENTINEL
It will be a green light for Biden to to the same to stay alive.
If Trump has this sort of immunity it becomes entirely rational for his enemies to kill him. They would be flatly stupid should they not.
#6 | Posted by Zed at 2024-04-26 08:51 AM

A totalitarian from day one onward.

#9 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-04-26 09:24 AM | Reply

The big question/trouble lies in another split decision.

Say Biden wins the popular vote (as seems likely given the GOP's track record
over the last 25 years or so on the matter), and say Trump edges
out Biden in a close match in the Electoral College. Also say
Trump has already be convicted as a felon by NY in court, and is due
to go to prison.

How will the nation react then if the Supreme Court tries to wade in
and settle everything in Trump's favor, so as POTUS again he can just
toss aside any convictions and go after his detractors?

If it is close, it WILL get ugly again. I need to save some leave time
for around election time I can see, so I can be out of WV and the crazy
loons that will be itching to start trouble.

#10 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-04-26 09:48 AM | Reply

#5
That is the EXACT wording that the special prosecutor's representative should have used! Instead, he and the Justices wanted to address the issue in the abstract; not the reason that the court was convened in the first place. A lost opportunity.

#11 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2024-04-26 11:24 AM | Reply

Omg...the same ridiculous drivel that both parties do whenever they don't get their way. But when the SCOTUS gives the other party a victory, all of a sudden they are the best thing since pockets. How do any of you actually continue to fall for this crap?

#12 | Posted by humtake at 2024-04-26 11:59 AM | Reply

No, no, no. Please take your whataboutisms and shove them up your ass, you pathetic hack.

#13 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-04-26 01:30 PM | Reply

#4 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

Lazy bothsiderism.

This court has systematically subverted precedence to entrench their extremist "originalism" philosophy.

Whereas before it was just opposing views of how to analyze case law, they're now wiping slates of case law clean by inserting their philosophy in law. For examples, overturning Roe and the recent gun control case both push "historical" requirements that give preference to what laws existed when the constitution was ratified or in common law that the FFs used when drafting the constitution while selectively ignoring historical case law in favor of their own opinions when it suits them.

This scotus is literally subverting the electorate and are remaking the country in the eyes of their billionaire overseers.

#14 | Posted by jpw at 2024-04-26 01:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

Just Another Brick In The Wall.

#15 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-04-26 01:53 PM | Reply

Idiot.

#16 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-04-26 03:38 PM | Reply

If Merrick Garland had pursued this case when he should've, it would already be over.

#17 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2024-04-26 04:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I decided a long time ago that there is nothing "Supreme" about this Trump stacked court.

I'm hoping now that President Biden gets a comfortable lead in both the House and Senate so impeachment proceedings can begin . . in earnest.

Not because they're Republicans but because they've breached their oath of office.

#18 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-04-26 06:09 PM | Reply

Fire all SCOTERS start ober wid jiss leftwhang judges. Watch furor die.

#19 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2024-04-27 11:42 AM | Reply

I have some copium available for the lot of you.

#20 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-04-27 12:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

If it is close, it WILL get ugly again. I need to save some leave time
for around election time I can see, so I can be out of WV and the crazy
loons that will be itching to start trouble.

#10 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-04-26 09:48 AM | Reply | Flag:

Yep, because that is where all the trouble is gonna be. West Virginia.

#21 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-04-27 03:36 PM | Reply

I guess there is no point in waiting and actually READING the opinions the justices will write. Much more fun to overreact right now based on pundit analysis.

#22 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-04-27 03:39 PM | Reply

You think there's a case to be made that the president should be immune to the law?

#23 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-04-27 03:44 PM | Reply

I guess there is no point in waiting and actually READING the opinions the justices will write. Much more fun to overreact right now based on pundit analysis.
#22 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-04-27 03:39 PM

Based on their use of historic precedence there won't be any "opinion" to write in seven months.

#24 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-04-27 03:58 PM | Reply

I guess there is no point in waiting and actually READING the opinions the justices will write. Much more fun to overreact right now based on pundit analysis.
#22 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

Of course we will wait. But the fact that Trump's theory in this case wasn't universally mocked by all 9 justices during oral arguments is a matter of significant concern, right now. Between 3-6 of them appear ready to sign onto the most obscene abuse of the Constitution in several decades, and possibly ever. We don't need to pretend that isn't happening.

#25 | Posted by JOE at 2024-04-27 04:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Mocking is really not proper courtroom decorum. Sorry if that disappoints you.

#26 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-04-27 08:02 PM | Reply

Mocking is really not proper courtroom decorum. Sorry if that disappoints you.

#26 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

I take it you've never seen an episode of Judge Judy

#27 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-27 08:15 PM | Reply

Well, we know Clarence is NOT giving back the RV or the trips to his rwing friends....

#28 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-27 08:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Any one of the 9 justices could turn in their robes tommorrow and increase their income ten fold in their first year off the bench. The corruption alleged (RV, resort stays, book deals, etc) is a pittance compared to the financial opportunities available to each and every one of them if they chose to step down. For this reason, I believe they are all dedicated jurists not "partisan hacks". If you take the time to read their well reasoned opinions, you may see views that are closely aligned with one party or another, which is likely why they were selected, however, I believe their views are their own convictions, and they are not "owned" by any party or candidate. They have a lifetime appointment, and no need to stay loyal to the President who appointed them.

That's my opinion, buttressed by the well reasoned opinions each of them presents for the court., that most people don't bother to read. I read each one, and I may not always agree with the conclusions they reach, but I have a deep respect for every last one of them.

#29 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-04-27 08:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"Weird" indeed:

Asha Rangappa
@AshaRangappa_

Weird. In 2009, Kavanaugh wrote a law review article specifically contemplating criminal prosecutions for Presidents after they leave office, and noting that this possibility provides a check on a "bad-behaving or law-breaking" President. I guess he just changed his mind for some reason

www.minnesotalawreview.org

twitter.com

#30 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-04-27 09:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

If they choose to step down, they can do what they like, but as long as they are on the highest Court in the land, the appearance of honesty and fairness and non-political independence has eluded the rwingers on the bench.

#31 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-27 09:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Brett Kavanaugh's 'Jarring' Supreme Court Remarks Stun Legal Experts

Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh has described President Gerald Ford's pardon of Richard Nixon as "one of the better decisions in presidential history""drawing the ire of legal analysts."

"One of the many jarring observations floated by some Supreme Court Justices at oral argument on immunity was the one by Brett Kavanaugh that Ford's decision to pardon Nixon looks better and better as time goes on. In fact, many historians and observers attribute that pardon to Trump's present sense of actual immunity," Lisann wrote."

"As a young lawyer, Brett Kavanaugh was part of Ken Starr's team that investigated Bill Clinton. He's a political hack. He's always been a political hack. He'll always be a political hack," he wrote."
excerpts

www.newsweek.com

#32 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-27 09:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Team Trump Is Ready to Lose the Supreme Court Immunity Case. They're Celebrating

Trump's lawyers don't expect the Supreme Court to bless his absurd immunity claims. "We already pulled off the heist," says a source close to Trump

Donald Trumps inner circle doesn't expect the Supreme Court to go along with his extreme arguments about executive power in the immunity case before the justices. But what the high court does now is almost beside the point: Trump already won.

www.rollingstone.com

#33 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-04-27 09:42 PM | Reply

Any one of the 9 justices could turn in their robes tommorrow and increase their income ten fold in their first year off the bench. The corruption alleged (RV, resort stays, book deals, etc) is a pittance compared to the financial opportunities available to each and every one of them if they chose to step down. For this reason, I believe they are all dedicated jurists not "partisan hacks". If you take the time to read their well reasoned opinions, you may see views that are closely aligned with one party or another, which is likely why they were selected, however, I believe their views are their own convictions, and they are not "owned" by any party or candidate. They have a lifetime appointment, and no need to stay loyal to the President who appointed them.
That's my opinion, buttressed by the well reasoned opinions each of them presents for the court., that most people don't bother to read. I read each one, and I may not always agree with the conclusions they reach, but I have a deep respect for every last one of them.

#29 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

Since you are so learned in the SC and their decisions perhaps you could answer a few questions:

1. Where in the Constitution is the Major Questions Doctrine?
2. Who was the injured party in the student debt case? What was their injury?
3. At what point following Senate hearing did Alito concluded that Roe vs Wade was "egregiously wrong"? What lead him to change his opinion?
4. How was Masterpiece Cakeshop injured when they never had a gay customer request a wedding cake for a gay wedding?
5. How come the Supreme Court had to lie about evidence to justify their decision in Kennedy vs Bremerton School District?
6. Please explain how Originalism does anything but create a second-class citizenry for women and people of color?
7. How come Loving vs Virginia is not problematic vis a vis the 14th Amendment when Obergfell, Lawrence and Griswold are?
8. How come the textualists on the court will overturn the January 6 convictions under Sarbanes-Oxley?
9. Why does the current SC over the past few years seem to be basing most of their decisions on a desired outcome instead of applying stare decises?
10. Why did Thomas seem to cherry pick past decisions in the Bruen case? Where in the Constitution is the concept of History and Tradition when it comes to court rulings?

I predict you won't answer

#34 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-27 10:18 PM | Reply


but as long as they are on the highest Court in the land, the appearance of honesty and fairness and non-political independence has eluded the rwingers on the bench.
#31 | POSTED BY CORKY

This should go for everything in the Government.

But it isn't honest, fair and is completely on the take. Just look at the net worth rise after elected.

All this complaining is purely political.

#35 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-04-27 11:32 PM | Reply

All this acceptance of corruption as the norm is purely disgusting.

Because others do it is not justification, it is obfuscation.

#36 | Posted by Corky at 2024-04-27 11:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

My prediction was correct.

Any chance you will answer the following simple question:

11. What standing does the plaintiff in the mifepristone case have? Since they do not appear to have standing, how can the SC review their case?

#37 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-28 12:58 AM | Reply

The way the SC is acting is not normal, it is unprecedented. They are legislating from the bench, they are grabbing immense power at the expense of the legislative and executive branches and that is just beginning.

Major questions is NOT a thing.

The court should only be hearing cases where the plaintiffs have standing, otherwise they are legislating!

The SC is legislating a highly unpopular agenda that could never pass congress.

The financial corruption is only part of it.

The SC is enacting a radical, fringe theory of governance not in any way tied to precedence or the wishes of the vast majority of Americans. They are ignoring basic tenets of judicial review.

And they will be in control for at least the next 30 years.

#38 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-28 01:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Revolute.

This is Oligarchy. The cover is Off. It has been since Trump. If not earlier.

The wetlands decision, abortion, Citizens United, etc. They are being openly purchased by the same "donors" who own both parties .

I see no peaceful outcome long term.

Sometimes, I'm glad I'm Old.

#39 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-04-28 03:35 AM | Reply

Mocking is really not proper courtroom decorum. Sorry if that disappoints you.

That's a copout. Terms like "laughed out of court" are the norm, and many judges will absolutely deride someone for raising an absurd legal position. But either way, you're latching onto one word i said in order to avoid the larger point i made.

#40 | Posted by JOE at 2024-04-28 07:30 AM | Reply

GAL

I read the Rolling Stones article and it seems to me that Trump and his legal team are betting all their chips on Trump winning the 2024 election ~ which would make a yea or nay decision by the SC moot.

Unless I missed something, if the SC rejects Trump's immunity claim (as the lawyers laughingly predict) and Trump DOES NOT win the election, then he, Trump, remains subject to prosecution in all the other cases that have been on hold, waiting for the immunity decision.

In which case, shouldn't Trump and his legal team be desperate to win their immunity case, either whole or in part, to protect Trump from convictions in the eventuality of Trump losing the 2024 election?

#41 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-04-28 07:33 AM | Reply

JOE

Rather than literally, I always thought "laughed out of court" related to the embarrassment of losing which is an expression the media might use to accentuate their own opinion.

If it was ever apparent that a judge used raucous laughter in his or her courtroom to influence a decision, I believe a re-trial would be in order.

#42 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-04-28 07:52 AM | Reply

#42 Do you really not understand it is a euphemism for a judge not taking stupid arguments seriously? Comments like "come on counsel, you can't be serious" are the norm in American courtrooms, and the intensity with which judges press (or don't press) particular litigants has always been an indicator of how well taken the arguments are. My initial point here was that the blanket immunity theory should have been met with frank, but professional, criticism, and the fact that it did not receive that treatment from all 9 justices is cause for alarm, and not something we need to wait for written opinions to be concerned about.

#43 | Posted by JOE at 2024-04-28 02:21 PM | Reply

JOE

"My initial point here was that the blanket immunity theory should have been met with frank, but professional, criticism, and the fact that it did not receive that treatment from all 9 justices is cause for alarm, and not something we need to wait for written opinions to be concerned about."

The Supreme Court justices are not judges and don't adjudicate from their position on high.

If they wanted to "laugh it out of court" (so to speak), the professional means to an end would be to reject hearing case all together.

What they'll probably do is take the heat off themself and create an insurmountable delay, which appeared to be the original intent from the git-go.

#44 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-04-28 06:24 PM | Reply

Actually, the only time I've ever heard spontaneous peals of laughter in the courtroom was in a traffic court when the defendant responded to a judge's ruling against her. She said "I THOUGHT GOD WORE A WHITE ROBE."

Of course, that was back in the 70's. I've grown up a lot since then.

#45 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-04-28 06:40 PM | Reply

Judge Caprio for the Supreme Court

Do yourself a favor and spend a while in his courtroom. He is enough to restore one's faith in th us justice system

www.google.com

#46 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-28 06:57 PM | Reply

youtu.be

#47 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-28 07:04 PM | Reply

www.google.com

#48 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-28 07:05 PM | Reply

@#6 ... So far, they've been talking about immunity for assassinating political rivals or opponents and if that would fall under official duty. ...

I still wonder why this case was not a quick decision, like keeping fmr Pres Trump on the Colorado ballot.

Why is SCOTUS stalling so much here?

#49 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-04-28 07:09 PM | Reply

An aside...

Views of Supreme Court Remain Near Record Lows (September 2023)
news.gallup.com

... As the Supreme Court's new term approaches, Americans continue to view it negatively in two long-term Gallup trends -- job approval and confidence -- with the latest readings similar to their historical low points.

The 41% of U.S. adults who currently approve of how the Supreme Court is handling its job is statistically similar to the 40% to 43% ratings over the past two years. The court's approval rating first fell to the record-low 40% in September 2021 after it declined to block a controversial Texas abortion law, a precursor to its 2022 Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization decision that overturned Roe v. Wade.

While majority-level approval of the Supreme Court was typical for all but two readings between 2000 and 2010, it never rose above 49% from 2011 to 2017. Then, after three years when majorities again expressed approval, ratings fell to their lowest point in September 2021, where they remain mired today. ...


#50 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-04-28 07:17 PM | Reply

What does it mean when the ultimate arbiter of disputes in the Country is losing respect and approval?

#51 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-04-28 07:19 PM | Reply

#34, #37 Are you sitting in front of your computer 24/7? Because I am not so spare me the "I predict you won't answer..(4 hours later).."My prediction was right" BS.

I have never claimed to be an expert in Constitutional Law, merely that I read all the Supreme Court opinions. Your questions have nothing to do with my post and I don't have the time or inclination to play your games. If your intent is to impress the class with your superior knowledge, why don't you simply answer them yourself?

1. Where in the Constitution is the Major Questions Doctrine?
2. Who was the injured party in the student debt case? What was their injury?
3. At what point following Senate hearing did Alito concluded that Roe vs Wade was "egregiously wrong"? What lead him to change his opinion?
4. How was Masterpiece Cakeshop injured when they never had a gay customer request a wedding cake for a gay wedding?
5. How come the Supreme Court had to lie about evidence to justify their decision in Kennedy vs Bremerton School District?
6. Please explain how Originalism does anything but create a second-class citizenry for women and people of color?
7. How come Loving vs Virginia is not problematic vis a vis the 14th Amendment when Obergfell, Lawrence and Griswold are?
8. How come the textualists on the court will overturn the January 6 convictions under Sarbanes-Oxley?
9. Why does the current SC over the past few years seem to be basing most of their decisions on a desired outcome instead of applying stare decises?
10. Why did Thomas seem to cherry pick past decisions in the Bruen case? Where in the Constitution is the concept of History and Tradition when it comes to court rulings?
11. What standing does the plaintiff in the mifepristone case have? Since they do not appear to have standing, how can the SC review their case?

I predict YOU won't answer.

#52 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-04-28 10:10 PM | Reply

"That's my opinion, buttressed by the well reasoned opinions each of them presents for the court., that most people don't bother to read. I read each one, and I may not always agree with the conclusions they reach, but I have a deep respect for every last one of them."

You tout yourself as an expert on the "well reasoned opinions". I ask you for your proof of said "well reasoned" in the form of 11 questions that would demonstrate an understanding of some of the more well-known decisions from recent years in conjunction with how their "well reasoned" decisions satisfy stare decis, standing, Article III issues.

You are choosing not to.

I can only conclude that you are not an expert on the "well reasoned opinions". So, if you are not an expert (or even a knowledgeable amateur) your conclusion vis a vis whether the decisions are "well reasoned" or not is suspect. I would just like you to admit you were talking out your ass.

#53 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-28 10:27 PM | Reply

Are you sitting in front of your computer 24/7?

I do sit at my computer frequently, the benefit of being semi-retired.

#54 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-28 10:28 PM | Reply

If your intent is to impress the class with your superior knowledge, why don't you simply answer them yourself?

1. Where in the Constitution is the Major Questions Doctrine? It doesn't exist, it is a made up thing that the conservative majority uses to bypass the legislative branch and dictate policy. A blatant, unconstitutional power grab and corrupt.
2. Who was the injured party in the student debt case? What was their injury? There were no injured parties in this case. Therefore, the case should have been thrown out for lack of standing. That is BASIC judicial review. Lacking a party with standing means the court was legislating. That is basic.
3. At what point following Senate hearing did Alito concluded that Roe vs Wade was "egregiously wrong"? What lead him to change his opinion? He committed perjury in his senate hearing.
4. How was Masterpiece Cakeshop injured when they never had a gay customer request a wedding cake for a gay wedding?They were not, thus did not have standing and the case should not have been heard-there was not constitutional controversy to be heard. Since there was no controversy to be heard, what the SC did was legislating not adjudicating.
5. How come the Supreme Court had to lie about evidence to justify their decision in Kennedy vs Bremerton School District?Because they wanted a decision and made up evidence to support their decision-specifically when the court justified their decision on Kennedy's prayers being subtle and quiet, when photographic evidence proved the opposite.
6. Please explain how Originalism does anything but create a second-class citizenry for women and people of color? It is self evident that decisions based on laws passed when women and PoC did not have any rights means their current status is based on them having less power.
7. How come Loving vs Virginia is not problematic vis a vis the 14th Amendment when Obergfell, Lawrence and Griswold are? Because the author of that opinion (Thomas) is married to a white woman and he is African-American.
8. How come the textualists on the court will overturn the January 6 convictions under Sarbanes-Oxley? They will be overturning convictions that for actions that clearly meet the written text of the law, thus they are being hypocritical.
9. Why does the current SC over the past few years seem to be basing most of their decisions on a desired outcome instead of applying stare decises?Because they have a radical partisan agenda that could NEVER be passed legislatively and have stacked the courts to enact it through massive power grabs.
10. Why did Thomas seem to cherry pick past decisions in the Bruen case? Where in the Constitution is the concept of History and Tradition when it comes to court rulings? It isn't in the Constitution, he cherry picked so he could ignore Stare Decisis to reach a foregone conclusion-again power grab and legislating from the bench.
11. What standing does the plaintiff in the mifepristone case have? Since they do not appear to have standing, how can the SC review their case? They don't have standing and the case should have been thrown out based on that. This is yet another example of legislating from the bench, in this case overturning the experts at the FDA who have studied the issue for decades. Overturning based on, well nothing. Again a complete ignoring of judicial process.

See that is someone who has ACTUALLY studied the SC decisions.

#55 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-28 10:39 PM | Reply

Oh and see, I have the balls to answer questions directed to me.

Just saying.

#56 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-28 10:39 PM | Reply

@#52 ...#34, #37 Are you sitting in front of your computer 24/7? Because I am not so spare me the "I predict you won't answer..(4 hours later).."My prediction was right" BS. ...

imo, why is that a concern on this thread?

If I may say, you are usually more direct in answering the concerns presented.

But in this response, well, it seems evasion is the purpose.

Why?

#57 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-04-28 10:44 PM | Reply

#57 If I were "evasive" I wouldn't be here. I am always interested in respectful discussion and happy to answer questions that relate to my post, which was my personal opinion, not expert testimony on a 12 different court cases.

Truthy has absolutely no respect for the opinions of others, which he deems automatically invalid if they differ from his own. So he moves the goalposts, or in this case, sets up a brand new playing field, introduces 12 different balls and then ask me to chase them. To what end? He won't be satisfied until he forces capitulation.

#58 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-04-28 11:24 PM | Reply

#55 I appreciate you taking the time to answer them and expressing YOUR personal opinions on these cases. I don't agree with some of your conclusions, but do appreciate your analysis.

#59 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-04-28 11:33 PM | Reply

I simply asked you to defend your assertion with specifics.

You choose not to.

"That's my opinion, buttressed by the well reasoned opinions each of them presents for the court., that most people don't bother to read. I read each one, and I may not always agree with the conclusions they reach, but I have a deep respect for every last one of them."

You wrote that, not me.

I am asking you to defend this opinion, because, believe it or not, the SC is a rather important issue at the nonce.

Or you can choose to pretend I am not arguing with YOUR stated opinion.

#60 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-28 11:34 PM | Reply

Truthy has absolutely no respect for the opinions of others, which he deems automatically invalid if they differ from his own. So he moves the goalposts, or in this case, sets up a brand new playing field, introduces 12 different balls and then ask me to chase them. To what end? He won't be satisfied until he forces capitulation.
#58 | POSTED BY MIRANDA7

I live in eternal hope that when shown facts that people will change. Very Democratic Party of me unfortunately.

#61 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-28 11:40 PM | Reply

I tend to not be wrong very often, and when I am I admit it.

Because I only comment on issues that I know something about.

#62 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-04-28 11:41 PM | Reply

@#58 ... #57 If I were "evasive" I wouldn't be here. I am always interested in respectful discussion ...

What led me to the "evasive" comment was your #52 comment where you said, "...Are you sitting in front of your computer 24/7? ..."

At best, to my view, that seems less than positive.

OK, that aside.

... I am always interested in respectful discussion and happy to answer questions that relate to my post, ...

Yup. That is a reason why I enjoy having discussions with you. We do not always agree, but we do discuss.

That's A Good Thing.

OK, I'll go away quietly now.

:)


#63 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-04-29 12:24 AM | Reply

"I simply asked you to defend your assertion with specifics."
Nope you didn't.

"That's my opinion, buttressed by the well reasoned opinions each of them presents for the court., that most people don't bother to read. I read each one, and I may not always agree with the conclusions they reach, but I have a deep respect for every last one of them."

"You wrote that, not me."
Yep I did

"I am asking you to defend this opinion"
But you didnt ask me to do that at all. You brought up a bunch of constitutional questions concerning many cases, some of which haven't yet been decided, therefore there have been no Supreme Court opinions written, for me to have an opinion about.

It appears that, as usual, you are reading more into my post than what is actually there. If you could narrow it down to something specific in my post, perhaps I could respond.

"Or you can choose to pretend I am not arguing with YOUR stated opinion."

Nope, I'm not pretending that. What you were doing was arguing with me about things I had expressed no opinion whatsoever about. That is one of your favorite tactics, setting up little strawmen.

#64 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-04-29 01:03 AM | Reply

#63 You are right, that was less than positive, because it was in direct response to something that was less than positive that you may have missed.

#65 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-04-29 01:07 AM | Reply

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