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Defense Rests Without Trump taking the Witness Stand
The defense for Donald Trump rested their case after Donald Trump refused to testify in his own defense during his election interference trial in New York.
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"Trump has suggested on many occasions that people who invoke their right against self-incrimination are guilty. 'You see the mob takes the Fifth,' Trump said during a 2016 rally in Iowa. 'If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?'" nymag.com
#1 | Posted by censored at 2024-05-21 02:55 PM | Reply
Onward towards skipping the presidential debates!
#2 | Posted by Zed at 2024-05-21 02:56 PM | Reply
The Cowardly Lyin'. If he only had the nerve...
Yeah, it's sad, believe me, Missy When you're born to be a sissy Without the vim and verve
But I could show my prowess Be a lion, not a mouse If I only had the nerve
I'm afraid there's no denyin' I'm just a dandelion A fate I don't deserve
I'd be brave as a blizzard I'd be gentle as a lizard I'd be clever as a gizzard If the Wizard is a Wizard who will serve Then I'm sure to get a brain A heart A home The nerve!
If I Only Had the Nerve Song by Bert Lahr, Jack Haley, and Ray Bolger
www.youtube.com
(1 min)
#3 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-21 03:12 PM | Reply
I'm kinda like Caesar's wife: I have no bawlz. Thank you, ~ Donald J. (Ya doesn't hasta call me Johnson) Trumpf Charlatan
#4 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-05-21 03:39 PM | Reply
Next he will be whining that he was not allowed to speak.
#5 | Posted by bat4255 at 2024-05-21 09:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 7
... The defense for Donald Trump rested their case after Donald Trump refused to testify in his own defense during his election interference trial in New York. ...
Why is fmr Pres Trump so afraid to help prove his claimed innocence in a Court of Law?
#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-21 09:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
That's not how our justice system is supposed to work.
It just goes to show the corruption of the justice system under Brandon.
It's show trial worthy of a banana republic.
Reap the whorl wind begin after Trump's inauguration.
#7 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-05-21 11:23 PM | Reply
@#7 ... It just goes to show the corruption of the justice system under Brandon. ...
Please me more specific.
How has our Justice System been corrupted under Pres Biden?
(this is the part where the alias I replied to usually just fades away instead of replying to my question. ... )
#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-21 11:45 PM | Reply
It was always a given that Trump would not testify. The media pumped it up as an idea to sell papers. Trump can't tell the truth. He'd lie and be caught in it. One question that would certainly be asked him under oath would have been did he do the payoff.
#9 | Posted by BBQ at 2024-05-22 12:10 AM | Reply
@#9 ... It was always a given that Trump would not testify. The media pumped it up as an idea to sell papers. ...
Or, was the media just giving fmr Pres Trump the attention he craves?
I agree that fmr Pres tTump testifying under oath would be a disaster for this case, cf. the California court case of 2018...
Trump Admits To Authorizing Stormy Daniels Payoff, Denies Sexual Encounter (2018) www.npr.org
... President Trump admitted Thursday to reimbursing his lawyer for a $130,000 payment made on the eve of the 2016 election to porn actress Stormy Daniels as part of a settlement about her alleged 2006 sexual encounter with Trump. ...
Oops. ... There's that "reimbursing" word again.
#10 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-22 12:23 AM | Reply
I don't recall a defendant ever declining to take the stand. He needs to be drawn and quartered.
#11 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-05-22 12:31 AM | Reply
@#11 ... He needs to be drawn and quartered. ...
Why?
#12 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-22 12:41 AM | Reply | Funny: 1
Kudos to the ----- ass bitch's lawyers for getting "orange turd" and "---------------" entered into the court record.
#13 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-05-22 12:45 AM | Reply
The prosecution is missing elements they had to establish in order to convict.
The prosecution needed to prove Trump falsified business records in furtherance of a separate crime.
They failed. They believe they have it in the bag, or at least an appeal, why create the possibility of an unforced error.
#14 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-05-22 12:46 AM | Reply | Funny: 1
@#14 ... The prosecution is missing elements they had to establish in order to convict.
They failed. ...
So that would then indicate a smoother avenue for fmr Pres Trump to testify.
I mean if the prosecution's case is as weak as your current alias asserts, (and, in some respects, as I have posted previously, I do not disagree) then why the fear to testify on the part of fmr Pres Trump?
What is he afraid of?
#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-22 12:57 AM | Reply
It was always a given that Trump would not testify. The media pumped it up as an idea to sell papers. #9 | POSTED BY BBQ
I haven't seen any media reports outside of MAGATS media repeating Trump's claim pushing the idea that he would testify. All other outlets, even MSNBC, has been saying it was extremely unlikely that he would testify.
#16 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2024-05-22 01:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3
#16. He'd be making a huge mistake testifying at this point.
He's is own worst enemy and could easily be prodded into saying something incriminating even if it has nothing to do with this trial.
#17 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-05-22 01:50 AM | Reply
@#17 ...
The second string has arrived?
#18 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-22 01:57 AM | Reply
#16 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce
Clips of Trump pledging to testify in his NY criminal trial, where the state is about to rest their case. pic.twitter.com/vPHhrCkndP - Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) May 19, 2024
Clips of Trump pledging to testify in his NY criminal trial, where the state is about to rest their case. pic.twitter.com/vPHhrCkndP
- Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) May 19, 2024
#19 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-05-22 02:13 AM | Reply
#5 | Posted by bat4255 at 2024-05-21 09:38 PM | Reply | Flag
He already lied that the gag order prevented him from testifying.
Morons will believe it.
Merchan already slapped him around for lying about it and told him publicly nothing in the gag prevents him from testifying in his own defense.
What is preventing him is his attorney realizing that it would be foolish to put a guilty person on the stand to testify. Especially when he is a mental midget with a propensity to open his big mouth and incriminate himself.
#20 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-05-22 08:41 AM | Reply
Reap the whorl wind begin after Trump's inauguration. #7 | POSTED BY VISITOR_ AT 2024-05-21 11:23 PM | REPLY | FLAG:PPPFFFTTTT
Word is he stinks like $#!t so being down wind... already a thing... but more to your point... Maybe we can retry him with a change of venue to an actual banana republic to see if you're right. There's no law saying he can't be president from Honduras, El Salvador... or somewhere like that.
Then we get to say WE are sending them our crazies and criminals... and payback is a pitch.
#21 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2024-05-22 08:57 AM | Reply
He's is own worst enemy and could easily be prodded into saying something incriminating... #17 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER
That's because he's a criminal. And you carry water for him.
#22 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2024-05-22 09:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5
#11 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER
I don't remember Jeff ever knowing what is going on. He needs to stop writing his romantic Trump fan fiction and read the news sometime.
#23 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-05-22 10:03 AM | Reply
The prosecution needed to prove Trump falsified business records in furtherance of a separate crime. They failed.
They believe they have it in the bag, or at least an appeal, why create the possibility of an unforced error.
#14 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT
Tell me you didn't pay attention to the trial without telling me you didn't pay attention to the trial.
#24 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-05-22 10:04 AM | Reply
Reap the whorl wind begin after Trump's inauguration. #7 | POSTED BY VISITOR_
This is now the Republican playbook. Make up a fake grievance (here it's "my obvious crime factory of a president is being unfairly prosecuted"), then use it to justify actual third-world style politics and retributive bad faith prosecutions.
You guys are pulling this country down into hell, and you know it. Utterly traitorous scum.
#25 | Posted by JOE at 2024-05-22 10:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Joe as a lawyer on the internet perhaps you could explain Lamplighter that in our system the defendant doesn't need to prove innocence.
#26 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-05-22 10:44 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
#22 | POSTED BY JOHNNY_HOTSAUCE
Face it DingDong. Your hero Trumpy is a coward.
Only criminals refuse to testify!
This is the Gospel ... According to Trumpy.
"You see the mob takes the Fifth," Trump said during a 2016 rally in Iowa. "If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?"
youtu.be
#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-05-22 10:48 AM | Reply
#26 I don't recall seeing anyone make that claim; Trump is free not to testify and the general public is also free to draw an inference from that.
#28 | Posted by JOE at 2024-05-22 10:52 AM | Reply
#6 "Why is fmr Pres Trump so afraid to help prove his claimed innocence in a Court of Law?"
#29 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-05-22 11:05 AM | Reply
#26 | POSTED BY VISITOR_
Oh that's so cute.
You don't want to address anything said so you fall back to saying something factually accurate but that is utterly meaningless in the conversation.
Do you think it makes you look smart? Do you think a man who bragged that he was going to testify then chickened out plays well with the public? Do you think it makes him look good in court?
The jury is NOT SUPPOSED to draw an inference from the Defendant not testifying...but they do. It's human psychology.
#30 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-05-22 11:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Insufficiently detailed memo fields on checks which may possibly have caused Cohen to pay more taxes than he owed is the crime we're talking about.
#31 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-05-22 11:11 AM | Reply
#31 Ok? If it's totally not a crime i'm sure the jury can figure that out?
#32 | Posted by JOE at 2024-05-22 11:12 AM | Reply
I confess when I paid my contractor I just wrote "new roof" and did not write separate checks for his labor and the reimbursement for the materials. In addition to the materials I'm sure the contractor used some of the money to pay his personal and business expenses, I didn't list them in the memo field either. Don't turn me in.
#33 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-05-22 11:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
" I confess when I paid my contractor I just wrote "new roof" and did not write separate checks for his labor and the reimbursement for the materials."
That doesn't matter one whit.
It's still up to the taxpayer to report honestly, and personal expenses are honestly NOT tax-deductible.
#34 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-05-22 11:30 AM | Reply
#33 | POSTED BY VISITOR_
If you consider your personal accounting comparable to the accounting of a multi-million dollar corporation, you are sorely mistaken.
#35 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-05-22 11:30 AM | Reply
" Insufficiently detailed memo fields on checks which may possibly have caused Cohen to pay more taxes than he owed is the crime we're talking about."
No it's not, you raging dumfuq.
It's about how legal fees are "never grossed up", unless of course you're trying to hide something, or make the attorney "whole" after paying hush money out of his own pocket.
Let me guess: your "news" outlet never showed you the Weisselberg notes.
#36 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-05-22 11:36 AM | Reply
#33 That is not the factual scenario presented in Trump's NY case. The statute at issue there involves a person making a false entry in business records with intent to defraud, and with intent to conceal another crime (in this case campaign finance violations). Come up with a better analogy next time, --------.
#37 | Posted by JOE at 2024-05-22 11:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
"and did not write separate checks for his labor and the reimbursement for the materials." Since you paid for a new roof I bet you got a new roof and the receipts were very detailed and each expense and the labor was clearly spelled out and documented for you before you wrote the final check. And now you will be able to use those receipts legally and properly when you file your taxes.
And congratulations on your new roof!
#38 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-05-22 12:06 PM | Reply
Trump wouldn't be going through this mess if he hadn't had intimate relations with a porn performer while his wife was pregnant. There was a time when morality mattered.
#39 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2024-05-22 01:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3
All Trump does in depositions is invoke his 5th amendment rights. Why would he take the stand?
#40 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2024-05-22 01:06 PM | Reply
There was a time when morality mattered. #39 | POSTED BY LEE_THE_AGENT
Three generations of Conservatives raised on Ayn Rand will do a number on a nation's morality.
#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-22 01:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1
The evangelical support for a "man" who violates EVERY COMMANDMENT and follows NONE of Jesus teachings speaks volumes to their "christian values".
#42 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-05-22 01:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
#31 | POSTED BY VISITOR_
If you are going to lie, you should do it on a topic that everyone isn't already informed on.
Cohen's payment to Daniels broke the law. Trump's payment to cover it up was falsified and illegal.
Get over it.
#43 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-05-22 02:12 PM | Reply
"Cohen's payment to Daniels broke the law." She was extorting Trump but no legitimate legal source has made the claim that an NDA is illegal.
"Trump's payment to cover it up was falsified and illegal." Encoding a payment to a lawyer as a legal expense seems pretty legit. Was Trump supposed to break out Cohen's other expenses in the memo field? What are the legal requirements for the memo on check?
#44 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-05-22 03:13 PM | Reply
Fat Donnie Loser the COWARD.
#45 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-22 03:25 PM | Reply
"Cohen's payment to Daniels broke the law." She was extorting Trump but no legitimate legal source has made the claim that an NDA is illegal. "Trump's payment to cover it up was falsified and illegal." Encoding a payment to a lawyer as a legal expense seems pretty legit. Was Trump supposed to break out Cohen's other expenses in the memo field? What are the legal requirements for the memo on check?
#44 | POSTED BY VISITOR_
1. The payment by Cohen to Daniels was an illegal campaign contribution for which Cohen pleaded guilty already. 2. There was no memo line on the checks. It was how the checks were recorded in the business system records when they were cut. www.politico.com 3. And it's far more than just the checks.
11 for invoices from Michael Cohen 9 for general ledger entries for Donald J. Trump 9 for checks from Donald J. Trump 3 for general ledger entries for the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust 2 for checks from the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust
We done here or do I need to ---- check you into oblivion on anything else?
#46 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-05-22 03:39 PM | Reply
Was Trump supposed to break out Cohen's other expenses in the memo field?
As to this specifically, YES!
It was a campaign expense.
I'm not sure on the law, but he may even have been required to cut checks from a separate account entirely.
#47 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-05-22 03:42 PM | Reply
Trump is a criminal and a poosy
#48 | Posted by cbob at 2024-05-22 11:10 PM | Reply
@#9 ... It was always a given that Trump would not testify ...
That may be true.
If so, why did fmr Pres Trump say he would testify?
#49 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-23 01:23 PM | Reply
Trump wouldn't be going through this mess if he hadn't had intimate relations with a porn performer while his wife was pregnant. There was a time when morality mattered. #39 | POSTED BY LEE_THE_AGENT
Correction. There was a time when Republicans pretended morality mattered. Now they don't even pretend, because they hitched their wagons to the dumbest most brazenly immoral POS imaginable.
#50 | Posted by JOE at 2024-05-23 01:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
It's always been a given that if anyone ever got Trumpy under oath he would perjure himself because every time Trumpy opens his KFC hole a lie poops out.
Trumpy runs his mouth and lies with impunity outside the courthouse. But inside the court house he is as quiet as a mouse fart and has nothing to say in his own defense.
#51 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-05-23 08:07 PM | Reply
Rumor is that Trumpy didn't testify because he wrote himself a $130,000 check to keep quiet.
-Stephen Colbert
#52 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-05-23 08:09 PM | Reply
@#50 ... Correction. There was a time when Republicans pretended morality mattered. Now they don't even pretend, because they hitched their wagons to the dumbest most brazenly immoral POS imaginable. ...
I want to disagree with that statement about a fmr Pres of the Country.
I really want to disagree.
But I cannot.
My memory is not exact on this, but back in the summer of 2016, I remember asking Republicans why they are supporting this low-life sleazy NYC real-estate developer. I had known fmr Pres Trump from the late 80's and 90's because I am in the NYC media marketing area. So, since the late 80's I had read about [private citizen] Trump.
#53 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-05-23 08:23 PM | Reply
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