End of Rule of Law in America

Thursday, May 15, 2025

J. Michael Luttig: The 47th president seems to wish he were king -- and he is willing to destroy what is precious about this country to get what he wants.

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If Kilmar Abrego Garcia is guilty of the crimes he is accused of, then the Trump administration could simply follow the law and prosecute him within his due-process rights, Adam Serwer writes. Why won't it?[image or embed]
" The Atlantic (@theatlantic.com) May 14, 2025 at 8:15 PM

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After these first three tyrannical, lawless months of this presidency, surely Americans can understand now that Donald Trump is going to continue to decimate America for the next three-plus years. He will continue his assault on America, its democracy, and rule of law until the American people finally rise up and say, "No more."

From across the ages, Frederick Douglass is crying out that we Americans never forget: "The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."

#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2025-05-14 04:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"After these first three tyrannical, lawless months of this presidency, surely Americans can understand now that Donald Trump is going to continue to decimate America for the next three-plus years. He will continue his assault on America, its democracy, and rule of law until the American people finally rise up and say, No more,'"Luttig concludes his excellent essay. "From across the ages, Frederick Douglass is crying out that we Americans never forget: The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.'"

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-05-14 04:38 PM | Reply

#2: Hi Doc: The two lions of that faraway age would be appalled today: hips.hearstapps.com*

#3 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-14 04:48 PM | Reply

... The 47th president seems to wish he were king ...

Well, yeah.

It seems to be quite obvious at this point.

Asked differently ...

Why does Pres Trump seem to want to suck up to the autocrats and dictators of the world, all the while castigating our long-term Democracy-promoting allies?

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-14 08:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Why does Pres Trump seem to want to suck up to the autocrats and dictators of the world, all the while castigating our long-term Democracy-promoting allies?

Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-14 08:04 PM | Reply

I think it has to do with the fact that he suffers from very low self esteem. He figures if he were a dictator that would compensate for his many ummmmmmm short comings. Just a thought that I had.

#5 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-05-14 08:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#5 ... I think it has to do with the fact that he suffers from very low self esteem. ...

Possibly.

But his apparent allowance of autocrats and dictators to purchase him helps his self-esteem, how?

My guess is that those actions further reduce his importance, not increase it.

Stated differently, he may be purchased for a transactional reason.

The President of the United States may be purchased for purely a transactional reason.

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-14 08:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As stated back in 2022, I wrote on here to leave the man be and he'd go away. Couldn't help yourselves lol, but then again Joe Biden got you guys into this mess since the buck stopped with him.

#7 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-05-14 08:47 PM | Reply

"As stated back in 2022, I wrote on here to leave the man be and he'd go away"

Go away?

Trump was two years into his 2024 Presidential Campaign in 2022.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-14 09:06 PM | Reply

@#7 ... I wrote on here to leave the man be and he'd go away. ...

A statement that your current alias really has no clue about Pres trump.

Good to see it finally admit that.

#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-05-14 09:49 PM | Reply

At the time there were rumblings of Biden sicking the DOJ on him DeSantis was winning in the polls and then you morons went after him. Feel free to look at these polls prove it.

Before indictment: fivethirtyeight.com

After indictment: thehill.com

Not necessarily directed at you Lamp, but you guys were ------- ------- for going after him.

#10 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-05-15 12:45 AM | Reply

Trump and his band of pirates have been plotting this for the last 4 years. They've figured out how to circumvent the court. Congress should be pressing their constitutional will, but they make more $$$ being the opposition, especially the Democrats. Trump will get his way until Father Time intervenes. By the looks of Trump, it shouldn't be long.

#11 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-05-15 08:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Roberts and the corrupt kangaroo court are to blame.

We deserve this.

#12 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-05-15 09:06 AM | Reply

As stated back in 2022, I wrote on here to leave the man be and he'd go away. Couldn't help yourselves lol, but then again Joe Biden got you guys into this mess since the buck stopped with him.

#7 | Posted by Bluewaffles

This is probably the stupidest take I've seen on Trump in a long time.

#13 | Posted by jpw at 2025-05-15 09:27 AM | Reply

I told you so.

#14 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-05-15 09:31 AM | Reply

Trump was two years into his 2024 Presidential Campaign in 2022.

#8 | Posted by snoofy

To keep from having dozens of more felonies on his record.

#15 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2025-05-15 09:35 AM | Reply

heh heh.....
ahahahaha
chuckle....STOP IT>>...I can't laugh much more..
my side hurts...
AAHHHH HAHAHAAHH
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

rule of law....like jeffries threatening the police if they arrest felons.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

rule of law....like demanding that wife beating gangbanger illegals are allowed back in

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

oh please stop...laughing at you pukes so much my side hurts even more...

rule of law....celebrating firebombers and destruction of private property

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA yeah rule of law....yada yada yada....

--oh DAYUM IT BOYS.....I get it though
I read this morning people of your ilk and lack of intelligence railing against
the potus FOR LOWERING PHARMA BILLS.

--SO FAR we have England / France and Germany talking about and doing things like
securing their borders....and yes again I read people blaming trump for that .

I better go before my neighbor comes to check and make sure I"m not drunk....with laughter.

#16 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-05-15 10:32 AM | Reply

oh yeah...rule of law....like dems committing felonies by breaking into
a federal facility and then democrat fatso mama body slamming...ASSAULTING>..a
federal officer....

and for you sticklers for sources....here ya go....choke on it.

AOC DEMANDING....that biden IGNORE a judge's ruling and another biden dope saying that the
judge overstepped his bounds.....THIS IS YOUR 'RULE OF LAW"/////BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

www.youtube.com

German Chancellor Merz rejects criticism of border controls

www.dw.com

#17 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-05-15 10:49 AM | Reply

Trump will get his way until Father Time intervenes. By the looks of Trump, it shouldn't be long.

Never underestimate just how long a piece of ---- like that can live.

#18 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-05-15 10:56 AM | Reply

The rule of law didn't end, but was severely damaged by Democrat persecution of Trump and his supporters.

#19 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-15 11:02 AM | Reply

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#20 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2025-05-15 11:07 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#19

Oh ---- off you idiot.

#21 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-05-15 11:14 AM | Reply

rule of law....like demanding that wife beating gangbanger illegals are allowed back in

No, you stupid piece of s*&^. Law and order like not violating constitutional rights and sending people to a foreign prison on a "trust us."

You have zero proof beyond their claim that they are criminals of any sort. That is the reason for due process you brainless f*&^.

#22 | Posted by jpw at 2025-05-15 11:17 AM | Reply

but was severely damaged by Democrat persecution of Trump and his supporters.

#19 | Posted by visitor_

Never happened you delusional, worthless pile of s*&^.

#23 | Posted by jpw at 2025-05-15 11:18 AM | Reply

Couldn't help yourselves lol, but then again Joe Biden got you guys into this mess since the buck stopped with him.

#7 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

"You guys"?

Americans voted for this and Americans are the ones who will end it when they get tired of it.

But first we will have to "go through some things".

Meanwhile ... GFY traitor.

#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-05-15 11:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Nice of STD to ---- up the page format. Again.

#25 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-05-15 12:07 PM | Reply

Funny(sad) how King Dotard XIV who got a super maximum amount of due process is seen as a victim, yet those yanked off the streets and sent to a foreign prison with no due process at all are seen as criminals.
MAGAts are seriously stupid.

#26 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2025-05-15 12:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

I'll say Trump got the super maximum due process. Charged with imaginary crimes, temporary extensions of statute of limitations, made up rules that only applied to Trump.

#27 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-15 01:36 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I'll say the demented orange pedo got a pass for inciting the J6 insurrection.

#28 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-05-15 01:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In a Sane Country Trump would have been banned from running again after 01/06/21.

Just Sayin'.

The Dems won the Election and did Nothing about the Insurrection.

Big Mistake. Possibly Fatal.

#29 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-05-15 01:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Inflation down, stock market up, job participation up, yep, fatal.

#30 | Posted by visitor_ at 2025-05-15 03:10 PM | Reply

Layoffs Surged In February To Highest Level Since 2020

www.forbes.com

Stinky's track record is impressive.

#31 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-05-15 03:14 PM | Reply

Charged with imaginary crimes, temporary extensions of statute of limitations, made up rules...
#27 | Posted by visitor_

It's amazing that King Dotard XIV's army of lawyers (that he was allowed under due process) couldn't counter any of this.
But the fact that the super duper Biden secret scammers (that could rig the election while KDXIV was in power, yet couldn't when they had power) was able to get past thousands of jurors, judges, investigators, lawyers, etc. was able to get indictments and convictions but not actually lock him up, is wild.
The logic pretzels you must be able to bend yourself into every day, as a yoga teacher, I find truly impressive.

#32 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2025-05-15 04:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That came out a bit glib, but you get the point.

#33 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2025-05-15 04:03 PM | Reply

#32: Welcome back, TFD Nihilist. Weren't you in Colombia recently?

#34 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-15 04:10 PM | Reply

Still am, going home next week.

#35 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2025-05-15 04:33 PM | Reply

#35: Enjoy the food and good luck with CBP when you arrive home.

#36 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-15 04:35 PM | Reply

I'm at a Yoga school with a private vegetarian chef. The food has been amazing, but I still have to sneak in town every couple of days for some rotisserie chicken or a hamburgesa..

#37 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2025-05-15 04:52 PM | Reply

the end of the rule of law came when biden was declared mentally deficient but still okay to
be potus

the end of the law came when you know who...can't see her name in print or I'll puke...left Americans to die in Benghazi for political reasons / deleted 33k emails after she was subpoenaed / stole billions from Haiti / sold russia uranium / and lies like a rug.

--and she's sill walking around...probably looking for bill and a broad wearing
his favorite color dress...blue.

--but those are facts and I know how "you people" hate those.

#38 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-05-15 04:55 PM | Reply

#37: Sounds good. I eat meat three or four times a month. We're called 'flexitarians.' My wife and I go to a resto where they make a bacon-infused pizza-- real slabs-- which bakes in nicely into the pie: cdn.trendhunterstatic.com

#39 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-05-15 05:02 PM | Reply

There are countless studies linking eating meat and meat products to cancer.

There are zero studies linking a vegan diet to cancer.

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 05:04 PM | Reply

Nice of STD to ---- up the page format. Again.
#25 | POSTED BY REDIAL

Block him.

The moron has never posted anything worth reading.

Besides. He's got other SockPuppets he posts under.

ChiliGordo and itchyP being two others.

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-05-15 05:09 PM | Reply

You have zero proof beyond their claim that they are criminals of any sort. That is the reason for due process you brainless f*&^.

#22 | Posted by jpw

BWaaaaaa....THE PLAN....to make you have a truthurts stroke

#42 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-05-15 05:12 PM | Reply

post 42 uut off what else I wrote..

after 'stroke" I wrote "not really" to show that I"m not like many posters here like legallysapunk
and reins-a-goober.
and if you were expecting me to get nuts like you ...well you'not gonna get it..
but keep talking because with every word you show the midterm electorate
that "you people haven't learned anything from 2024
WHEN YOU COULDN'T EVEN BEAT 'HITLER'

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

#43 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-05-15 05:18 PM | Reply

41 | Posted by ClownShack

I have NEVER celebrated the swift execution of babies by beheading.

something you can't say...

#44 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2025-05-15 05:22 PM | Reply

Yup, wayward judges blocking deportations is the end of the rule of law in America.

#45 | Posted by THEBULL at 2025-05-15 06:37 PM | Reply

I agree STD, it's a shame Biden was so senile that he couldn't see what a dangerously criminal threat to Democracy and America that KDXIV was and lock him away for good.

#46 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2025-05-15 06:49 PM | Reply

I'll say Trump got the super maximum due process. Charged with imaginary crimes, temporary extensions of statute of limitations, made up rules that only applied to Trump.

#27 | Posted by visitor_

More s*&^ that didn't happen. Do you put effort into being this stupid?

#47 | Posted by jpw at 2025-05-15 07:15 PM | Reply

BWaaaaaa....THE PLAN....to make you have a truthurts stroke

#42 | Posted by shrimptacodan

I love it when the shrill MAGA terards act like they're the ones causing others to stroke.

Your entire premise is misery and bitter whining.

#48 | Posted by jpw at 2025-05-15 07:16 PM | Reply

Yup, wayward judges blocking deportations is the end of the rule of law in America.

#45 | Posted by THEBULL

Another ball sucking stupid f*&^ who has no idea what our Constitution says or means.

#49 | Posted by jpw at 2025-05-15 07:16 PM | Reply

- made up rules that only applied to Trump.

Yeah! And then there were those dozens of Dem Crisis Actors that pretended to be Trump's closest, hand-picked Aides and Lawyers and Co-Conspirators who all testified to his crimes under Oath.

Of course, they are in hiding now waiting for Trump's Revenge.

#50 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-15 07:23 PM | Reply

If you're an illegal alien, the only right you have is to GTFO.
That's the law, judges are blocking enforcement of the law.

That's the end of the rule of law.

#51 | Posted by THEBULL at 2025-05-15 09:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"If you're an illegal alien, the only right you have is to GTFO."

If the Constitution doesn't apply to them, they can do anything they want and nothing they do is illegal.

You're good at ignoring that little fact about where laws come from.

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 09:22 PM | Reply

He's pretty funny really... in a totally unaware sort of way.

#53 | Posted by Corky at 2025-05-15 10:02 PM | Reply

I read a post by one of our resident morons just the other day laughing about all us stupid libs talkings out food shortages. Last week local Whole Foodsran. Out of rivals, this week i'sromaine. OK not an emergency but it is a hint of the coming shortages of fresh veggies,; thanks to Trump's insane views about immigrants. Any posters here want to pick lettuce??? No. I didn't think so.

#54 | Posted by danni at 2025-05-15 10:41 PM | Reply

That's the law...
#51 | Posted by THEBULL

No it's not. Here's the actual law...

Fifth Amendment

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
constitution.congress.gov

Why do you hate the Constitution?

#55 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2025-05-15 10:52 PM | Reply

When it comes to this I wish Trump had taken the high road. At the same time, abusing the system to persecute political adversaries has been SOP for a Dems for at least a decade. None of you who cheered it on then, are in a position to cry like a little girl now.

JPW implies that those who entered illegally with minimal vetting and were then released deserves years of "Due Process" ... not to be
Prosecuted for a crime, but simply to be returned back.

#56 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-05-15 10:55 PM | Reply

JPW implies...
#56 | Posted by BellRinger
Actually, the Constitution is quite clear about it, no implication necessary.
See...
#55 | Posted by TFDNihilist

#57 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2025-05-15 11:01 PM | Reply

I wish Trump had taken the high road.
#56 | Posted by BellRinger

Hahahahahhahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...
You're twice as stupid than I ever thought if you think that has, or will ever happen.

#58 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2025-05-15 11:03 PM | Reply

JPW implies that those who entered illegally with minimal vetting and were then released deserves years of "Due Process" ... not to be
Prosecuted for a crime, but simply to be returned back.

You're really intent on missing it.
You added all those extra words to muddy the waters.
JPW implies people deserve "Due Process"

The Constitution explicitly states they are deserving of Due Process.
What the hell happened to you, JeffJ? You used to love the Constitution.

#59 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-05-15 11:17 PM | Reply

" abusing the system to persecute political adversaries "

For the 30th time, if you can't name a single indictment of Trump which you or I could do without fear of legal repercussions, you don't get to make that BS claim.

Can you finally name one, or should you STFU?

#60 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-05-16 12:58 AM | Reply