Alarm on Disney Vacations Amid Florida Anti-Vax Move

Thursday, September 04, 2025

Renowned infectious diseases expert Michael Osterholm on Wednesday warned of the potential fallout from Florida's move to end all vaccine mandates in the state, most notably including shots for schoolchildren.

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Osterholm commented: "We basically are losing all the safety nets that we had with the public health system and vaccines are at the heart of it and of course this administration is doing everything it can to eliminate or if not totally eliminate vaccines for people. We are really at the point where we can either go with science and what we've accomplished over 100 years in improving public health or we can go with magic, smoke and mirrors and that's what this is really all about."

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#1 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-04 06:23 AM | Reply

The Petri Dish State

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-09-04 06:23 AM | Reply

Florida may as well have a law where it is forbidden for people to wipe their rear ends after having a bowel movement.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-04 07:07 AM | Reply

Vaccines are a victim of their own success.

Idiots today are so used to a world without rampant childhood illness that they think ground flowers and tea are a better option.

Until they have to watch a grandchild die of whooping cough or measles encephalitis. Then I'm sure they'll be all "why isn't this stopped!?!?!"

#4 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-04 10:04 AM | Reply

#4 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-04 10:04 AM | Reply | Flag:

And exactly what did you have to say about millions of undocumented people from 3rd world countries simply walking into this country? Just stop with your virtue signaling and faux outrage. You're a hypocrite and this is all political to you - nothing more.

#5 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-04 10:54 AM | Reply

millions of undocumented people from 3rd world countries simply walking into this country?

Tell us brother! Let the fear consume you!

Tell us you hate humanity without saying you hate humanity.

So when will Congress address this issue?

And how do to know they walked? Many flew in legally and just never left.

About two-thirds of unauthorized adult immigrants had been living in the U.S. for at least a decade which suggests a large number of overstays have become long-term residents.

And in modern civilized states like California ALL students need to be vaccinated to attend public schools.

Carry on with your maga loon whine of the day snowflake.

#6 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-04 11:16 AM | Reply

#5 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Always bigotry first.

This is always the first go to for you idiots.

Why? Because you're stupid and uninformed.

#7 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-04 11:38 AM | Reply

Look up the most commonly imported diseases.

Here's a hint - they're not vaccine preventable ones. They're chronic diseases like Tb, Malaria ect.

#8 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-04 11:43 AM | Reply

" Look up the most commonly imported diseases."

Doesn't change the fact that you had no problem with those diseases being imported into this country.

#9 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-04 12:22 PM | Reply

Anti mandate is not anti vax. It's amazing how much the left loves coercion.

#10 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-04 12:23 PM | Reply

"I went to Disney World and all I got was"

#11 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2025-09-04 12:23 PM | Reply

Anti mandate is not anti vax. It's amazing how much the left loves coercion.

#10 | Posted by BellRinger

Because the people ending the mandate and support ending the mandate are all pro vaccination, right?

#12 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2025-09-04 12:26 PM | Reply

Doesn't change the fact that you had no problem with those diseases being imported into this country.

#9 | Posted by BellRinger

Doesn't change the fact that you are completely full of s*&^ as usual.

#13 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-04 12:26 PM | Reply

Anti mandate is not anti vax. It's amazing how much the left loves coercion.

Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-04 12:23 PM | Reply

It's amazing that Jeff wants a unhealthy society. Vaccine mandates have served us quite well over the decades.

#14 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-09-04 12:27 PM | Reply

" Doesn't change the fact that you are completely full of s*&^ as usual.

#13 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2025-09-04 12:26 PM | FLAG: "

I don't recall you ever being critical of Biden's open border policies.

If you were then I'll retract and apologize for misattribution.

#15 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-04 12:35 PM | Reply

Really? And what if, in 10 years time, there is zero fallout from this? What if removing the mandates causes no disruption or increases in anything?

I'm not saying they won't. I think it's really freaking stupid to legislate a blanket statement about all vaccines. But the point still stands, what if it doesn't cause problems? It's a lot easier to just keep your mouth closed and let reality prove you right than it is to make partisan statements that do nothing but create more hatred. If it is going to have a big negative impact, the data will speak for itself. We don't need conjecture to spread hate. In fact, we should really strive as Americans to get rid of that from our society.

#16 | Posted by humtake at 2025-09-04 12:37 PM | Reply

It's amazing how much the left loves coercion.

Posted by BellRinger

Like illegally putting masked armed military on the streets of our cities and snatching residents and citizens off the streets without due process?

Yeah. It's time. To GFY.

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-04 12:37 PM | Reply

" Like illegally putting masked armed military on the streets of our cities and snatching illegal aliens off the streets"

FTFY

#18 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-04 12:47 PM | Reply

And exactly what did you have to say about millions of undocumented people from 3rd world countries simply walking into this country?

Trafficking in the bigoted trope of "those diseased brown people" and counting on people, like Bellringer, to be as ignorant as you? Sadly it's a viable tactic in the American culture. Your bigotry rests in "those people" not being vaccinated. That the places they come from don't vaccinate.

Do you know Mexico's vaccination rate for polio is 98.39% - higher than the United States?
The rate for MMR vaccinations has dropped from 86% to near 80% recently, but it's dropped in the US, too. Where I live we're in the mid 80's now. Utterly disgusting, horrible, and not that much different than Mexico.
Guatemala? the same as Mexico.
El Salvador? 96%.

Perhaps you'd like to better identify these "disease carriers" and where they are coming from?
They have you scared shhtliess. Maybe by knowing we can better understand your terror?

#19 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-04 12:47 PM | Reply

BTW - ICE isn't military.

#20 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-04 12:47 PM | Reply

" you had no problem with those diseases being imported into this country."

Meanwhile, you have no problem embracing science which does not exist.

When did the dormancy go from days to months?!?

#21 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-04 12:50 PM | Reply

#19. People from 3rd world countries were trafficked into this country by the millions. Unless you are going to try and make the case that healthcare in places like Venezuela is comparable to healthcare in the US.

#22 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-04 12:50 PM | Reply

I don't recall you ever being critical of Biden's open border policies.

Probably because there was no such thing as an "open door policy".

America has never had an "open door policy". By Biden or any American President.

Just another Trumpy lie you eagerly slurped up.

The United States has never had a completely "open door" border policy, although for its first century, immigration was largely unrestricted. The idea of open borders is considered a myth by many historians and immigration experts.

But I am curious and since YOU brought it up please explain how you think Biden had an "open door policy".

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-04 12:52 PM | Reply

Really? And what if, in 10 years time, there is zero fallout from this? What if removing the mandates causes no disruption or increases in anything?

#16 | Posted by humtake

Did you know there was a time when there were no vaccine mandates? Millions of people died every year.

Medical experts know what will happen. But people like RFK Jr, a lawyer and politician, say we need to stop listening to them. Stopping the spread of COVID, polio, measles, smallpox etc. just isn't working. We need to start listening to the people who claim that vaccines are bioweapons with 5G tracking microchips.

#24 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2025-09-04 12:56 PM | Reply

" People from 3rd world countries were trafficked into this country by the millions."

They also returned from travel in the millions.

You have no science, so you lie.

Again ... when did dormancy change from hours to months?

If you have no proof, have the class to admit it.

#25 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-04 12:58 PM | Reply

"ICE isn't military."

Moot point, when it comes to rights.

Are those here illegally, "persons" ... ?

If not, when did THAT change???

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-09-04 01:02 PM | Reply

Did you know there was a time when there were no vaccine mandates? Millions of people died every year.

You are asking an awful lot of him.

That would require reading a history book and thinking for himself.

It's easier to just believe Dear Leaders lies and do what he says like a gutes Deutsch.

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-04 01:02 PM | Reply

#22 - So now you want me to run all the numbers for Venezuela? Venezuela

I gave you the top locations for immigration coming to the US. Venezuela didn't make that cut. It's not even listed.

All you're doing is hyperventilating trying to keep your bigoted view alive. That bigotry drips through your "try and make the case that healthcare in places like ___ is comparable to the US" - but I suspect you can't even see it.

BTW - it's a flashing red sign I addressed in my post: Your bigotry rests in "those people" not being vaccinated. That the places they come from don't vaccinate.

Whether they do better or not than the US in vaccinating their populations shows in the numbers. I have no need to get into a debate about the mechanics and who has the bigger dick. Especially with that lunatic Kennedy and Ladapo. It is getting far worse for the US under Trump. Watching Kennedy has been absolutely horrifying. Watching what's going on in Florida is terrifying.

#28 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-04 01:02 PM | Reply

Really? And what if, in 10 years time, there is zero fallout from this? What if removing the mandates causes no disruption or increases in anything?
#16 | Posted by humtake

What if the unvaxxed kids stop getting 'autism'?

#29 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-09-04 02:51 PM | Reply

EPCOT (Experimental Pokes Community of Torment) - Trump lurks in the "Warp-Speed Monorail," bragging he made the jab faster than Space Mountain, but also shrugs when anyone asks about side effects. Kennedy pops up in the gift shop whispering: "Don't trust the mouse. Or the needle."

Hollywood Studios (Health Spectacle) - Trump stars in the blockbuster "The China Virus" (directed by himself, naturally). Kennedy does indie films like "My Body, My Choice (But Only For Me)" " both battle for airtime in a cinematic universe nobody asked for.

Animal Kingdom (Ailment Keepers) - Kennedy gives TED-Talks-on-safari about mercury in vaccines while Trump waves from a jeep shouting: "We're gonna make malaria great again!"

Magic Kingdom (Corporate Fairy Tales) - Trump and Kennedy try to storm Cinderella's Castle together but bicker too much over who's the "true savior of freedom." Spoiler: Pfizer Princess kicks them both out.

(Thought I'd play with ChatGPT a bit!)

#30 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-04 02:54 PM | Reply

#28 so it's bigoted to oppose illegal immigration?

#31 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-09-04 03:02 PM | Reply

Look up the most commonly imported diseases.
#8 | Posted by jpw

Commonly imported diseases, often contracted by travelers, include gastrointestinal infections, malaria, dengue fever, influenza, and hepatitis A, as well as diseases like tuberculosis and HIV, which spread through migration.

Although measles was declared eliminated from the United States in 2000, measles cases and outbreaks continue to occur, resulting from importations of the disease from countries where it remains endemic.

Imported Infectious Diseases: The Impact in Developed Countries
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

"Imported polio" refers to polio cases caused by a poliovirus strain that traveled into a country or region from another location. These cases serve as reminders that polio transmission can occur across borders, even in areas where wild poliovirus is no longer endemic

"Doesn't change the fact that you are completely full of s*&^ as usual", #13 | Posted by jpw

#32 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-09-04 03:02 PM | Reply

"It's not right that my VACCINATED child is at risk because your child is UNVACCINATED"

Peak leftist logic.

#33 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-09-04 03:05 PM | Reply

#28 so it's bigoted to oppose illegal immigration?

It is when you base it on "those brown people carrying all those diseases!"

#34 | Posted by YAV at 2025-09-04 03:07 PM | Reply

Magic Kingdom (Corporate Fairy Tales)

"safe and effective" - pharmacorp and dependently-funded "government" entities

#35 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-09-04 03:08 PM | Reply

too easy. so long and thanks for all the plonks.

#36 | Posted by easy_meat at 2025-09-04 03:31 PM | Reply

"It's not right that my VACCINATED child is at risk because your child is UNVACCINATED"
Peak leftist logic.
#33 | Posted by easy_meat

You don't know what herd immunity means, do you?

It's okay to just admit that you don't understand things, rather than just knee-jerk oppose them.

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-09-04 04:32 PM | Reply

"Stupid peak leftist logic!"

#38 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-04 04:37 PM | Reply

"It's not right that my VACCINATED child is at risk because your child is UNVACCINATED"

Peak leftist logic.
#33 | POSTED BY EASY_MEAT

Makes sense to me.

Perhaps you should explain what you find illogical about it.

Ask Grok.

#39 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-04 04:37 PM | Reply