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Did the decedent's firearm go off as the officer removed it turned with it in hand.

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No, it was an execution.

#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2026-01-26 12:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Was it a negligent discharge.

Nonsense.

As I posted elsewhere, there's closeup video showing the ICE officer shooting him in the back after he saw that the gun had been taken away:
Just watched this analysis of the shooting, including
some video I hadn't seen before.

Male nurse had no gun in his hands, and didn't draw his gun.

The agent shot him after he saw that the gun had been taken away, as it probably didn't even register with him that the guy was now disarmed even though he was looking right at it.

#2 | Posted by censored at 2026-01-26 12:19 PM | Reply

I stated this PoV in my initial post on the topic.

Did the decedent's firearm go off as the officer removed it turned with it in hand.

My understanding is that particular weapon has a twitchy trigger, meaning slight top of barrel touch and the weapon can discharge.

IMO it was handled with care, so its not negligent discharge, its an accidental accidental (gun defect).

Some lawyers have mentioned SIG might be culpable in this case.

#3 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-01-26 12:36 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You're a ------- ------.

#4 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-01-26 01:58 PM | Reply

LOL. imalumpertoo going with the Alec Baldwin defense. Too funny.

#5 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-01-26 02:05 PM | Reply

It does look like execution. It does look like he wasn't holding any weapon.

If that firearm went off, what do you do? What do the officers think is happening?

There's no ignoring the reaction to a weapon discharge. If that shot isn't from that gun, then ballistics should confirm if that weapon was even fired.

If you are the defense attorney,you will look at this possibility.

If it happened,the grand jury would too.

#6 | Posted by Petrous at 2026-01-26 02:19 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

then ballistics should confirm if that weapon was even fired.

Assuming anyone checks it, or even knows where it is now.

If you are the defense attorney,you will look at this possibility.

Assuming anyone is ever charged and there is a trial.

#7 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-01-26 02:26 PM | Reply

A stabilized zoomed in slow motion version.
old.reddit.com

There is zero doubt what happened, 54 seconds in.

Add in the video where we see the gun was taken from the male nurse right in front of the agent's eyes, and there is no chance this shooting was defensible.

I don't think this was murder, though. Agent was in over his head and made an error.

#8 | Posted by censored at 2026-01-26 05:00 PM | Reply

"I don't think this was murder, though. Agent was in over his head and made an error."

That's an absurdly generous assessment.

#9 | Posted by Angrydad at 2026-01-26 11:19 PM | Reply

He thinks dead Palestinian children had it coming because reasons. ---- him.

#10 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-01-26 11:35 PM | Reply

The guy was shot multiple times.

Was there a discharge of his gun by the officer holding it?

Without that discharge, then did someone think he was reaching for a weapon?

Someone started the shooting. One pull is all that was needed for them all to shoot.

It comes down to why?

Prosecutors and defense attorneys will need those facts.

It looks like cold blooded murder. As we wait, more comes out.

There has been more analysis of the potential discharge of that gun. The history of that gun is still recent.

As a juror, what would you do if that gun went off and that happened?

The last jury I was on, one juror felt someone had to pay, despite self defense was established. That's the attitude that must park outside the deliberation room.

#11 | Posted by Petrous at 2026-01-27 09:38 AM | Reply

That's an absurdly generous assessment.
#9 | Posted by Angrydad

Maybe.

Brain/limb interaction is tricky, and sometimes the hands do stuff once set in motion before the brain has a chance to process current events and tell them to stop. Although in this case, male nurse never even drew the gun and no indication he was going to do so, so no basis for the use of deadly force.

#12 | Posted by censored at 2026-01-27 10:33 AM | Reply

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