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Tuesday, May 26, 2026

There are new claims that the US has the remains of four separate species of alien life reported by Dr. Hal Puthoff, a CIA-funded researcher and former Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program advisor.

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Nordics: Bear the most similar resemblance to humans Grays: Believed to be small, massive-eyed, hairless creatures and are the most common Amphibian type: Lizard-like creatures with scales and a long tail, and often walk on two legs Insectoids: Resemble a praying mantis and are bug-like beings. Rarely seen but appear as being "in charge"

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Easier to read:

Nordics: Bear the most similar resemblance to humans
Grays: Believed to be small, massive-eyed, hairless creatures and are the most common
Amphibian type: Lizard-like creatures with scales and a long tail, and often walk on two legs
Insectoids: Resemble a praying mantis and are bug-like beings. Rarely seen but appear as being "in charge"

Sounds like TV cartoon instead of being reported as "news".

#1 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-26 04:01 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Every time I think this isn't rooted in scientific fact, there's Stephen Miller.

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2026-05-26 06:08 AM | Reply | Funny: 3

Every time I think this isn't rooted in scientific fact, there's Stephen Miller.

#2 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis

It's all folklore. But, damn...Stephen Miller.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2026-05-26 07:54 AM | Reply

They're all part of one larger species Epsteinus Distractus.

#4 | Posted by qcp at 2026-05-26 08:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

1. Real life is weirder than any fiction imaginable, particularly since none of us can agree on what real life, truth, or existence entails -- nor do we know how many things happen to or for us the way it does.

If there are aliens among us, or marrying with us, or controlling us, how would that change anything but our assumptions and perceptions? And what "useful" could be done with that information?

At this point no one could agree that there's anything to be done about it, not that there would be any point in doing whatever that is.

Aliens among us, much less their classification (which isn't news, BillJ) seemed much weirder and threatening when more of the human race was tolerable and tolerant. But with freedoms falling away around the world, especially in the US, we now have more important interests.

It only makes sense there are other life forms in the universe. Why are earth inhabitants so damn self-important that they thing life as they recognize it is the only type of life?

We are surrounded every day by things we cannot see. If we could see radio waves, we'd be going through life in a wild array of colors.

As Doc says, ultimately it's folklore, even if it's real. And again, these days, proof means nothing if you don't want to believe it. Headlines and people's responses to them prove it every day.

A short read: Philip Wylie, The Answer, www.amazon.com

Read "alien" for "angel."

In this ingenious and unforgettable twentieth-century parable, a world on the brink of war is thrown into chaos when angels fall from heaven

Major General Marcus Scott is a seasoned veteran of combat, a loyal American, and a skeptic in a volatile world. But amid the aftermath of a nuclear weapons test in the South Pacific, everything Scott believes--and refuses to believe--will be turned upside down.

In a pool of clear water lies a single casualty of the blast, a beautiful winged being certainly not of this earth. And when a second celestial creature is discovered following a Russian H-bomb test, the military establishments of two major powers are thrown into chaos. Sworn enemies, each pledged to the other's destruction, they must now deal with the unthinkable and the impossible: that the Cold War has transcended the boundaries of the world, reaching into heaven to bring down angels.

A provocative tale as beguiling as it is disturbing, Philip Wylie's
The Answer is a captivating fantasy of the nuclear age. Set at the height of the United States-Soviet arms race, it is a page-turning thriller that taps into the anxieties and paranoia of a bygone era, offering a heartfelt plea for peaceful coexistence while decrying the suicidal insanity of war.

#5 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-05-26 10:42 AM | Reply

Sorry: for "folklore," credit to Zed.

#6 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-05-26 10:45 AM | Reply

Heliumrat would love this.

#7 | Posted by madbomber at 2026-05-26 10:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#6 | POSTED BY DBT2

I'm reading about the Cisco Grove Incident (1964).

The aliens in this story are aggressive, stupid, and cowardly.

It's a very weird story with a very weird ring of truth.

#8 | Posted by Zed at 2026-05-26 10:51 AM | Reply

When I was about 10 years old, this book fell into my hands. It's never left my mind.

John Fuller, The Interrupted Journey. The story of Betty and Barney Hill.

www.amazon.com

The book recounts the classic and most carefully documented of the many close encounters that have been reported across the world. Driving home from Canada in September 1961, Betty and Barney Hill of Portsmouth, NH, sighted a flying saucer which left them shaken. When they arrived home, Barney found inexplicable scuff marks on his shoes; Betty noticed rows of mysterious circles on their car. They also realised they could not account for almost two hours of their time on the road. After months of psychic distress dating from that night, the Hills sought medical assistance from Dr. Benjamin Simon, a distinguished Boston psychiatrist and neurologist. Under psychotherapy, including time-regression hypnosis, the Hills gave almost identical accounts of what had happened during the lost two hours of their journey. They told of an encounter with intelligent humanoid beings who took them on board an alien spacecraft, questioned them and submitted to physical examination. After 7 months of treatment, the doctor decided that neither of his patients was psychotic, and that both consciously and under hypnosis they told what they believed to be the absolute truth. Here is the complete account of the Hills' story. It includes the actual transcription of the tapes made under hypnosis, as well as the sketches they drew, both in and out of trance, of the spacecraft and the humanoid creatures. Although there have been other accounts of close encounters since their experience, none has been so closely monitored, and none by a scientist of the standing of Dr. Simon. Yet all of them strikingly coincide with the Hills story. Neither Betty nor Barney Hill would state that the experience could not be challenged; on the other hand, the doctor offered no incontrovertible assessment to discredit their testimony. The book is unquestionably one of the most fascinating stories that the author has ever investigated.

#9 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-05-26 10:55 AM | Reply

By the way, many other sightings in Portsmouth, NH, took place during these precise hours.

The book, after much analysis, comes to four possible conclusions, one of which is that the event was a shared hallucination.

Sounds unlikely, but could make for a fun date night with the proper conditions.

#10 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-05-26 11:10 AM | Reply

"one of which is that the event was a shared hallucination."

Shared hallucinations are a real thing.

Thousands of witnesses at Fatima claimed they saw the sun spin, change colors, and appear to zigzag across the sky or plummet toward the earth.

Of course the sun has never spun and danced and zig zagged across the sky and then crash to earth.

#11 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-05-26 11:15 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Claims are just -------- without evidence, dumbass

#12 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-05-26 11:16 AM | Reply

Also "races"? Really? The Klan doing UFO research?

#13 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-05-26 11:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If these aliens exist, then they're already doing their alien things, and thus their existence (or not) is already baked into our reality.

But I can see why it would be a big deal if true.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-26 11:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

From what I read, Puthoff's early career in physics was promising, but then he became a high level Scientologist, learned 'remote viewing', and then was completely taken in by Uri Geller.

In general, the crazed right's newest thing appears to be that aliens are actually the Nephilim of the bible... proposed by none other than Zechariah Sitchin decades ago.

www.catholic.com

which includes this:

"One of the individuals who called attention to this was Dr. Michael Heiser (1963-2023), a Protestant scholar of the Old Testament and Semitic languages who critiqued Sitchin's work in a variety of venues, including his provocatively named website SitchinIsWrong.com."

www.sitchiniswrong.com

aka HRat homework.

#15 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-26 12:39 PM | Reply

Remote viewing is a CIA thing.

#16 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-05-26 01:01 PM | Reply

"While some proponents argued there was a statistically positive hit rate, the scientific community and the CIA concluded the data wasn't reliable enough or actionable enough for real-world intelligence operations.

The project was shut down that same year, and thousands of pages of documents and training manuals were declassified. You can review these official government records in the CIA Reading Room."

www.cia.gov

www.google.com

remote viewing Scientology

https://www.google.com/search?q=remote+viewing+Scientology&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

#17 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-26 01:10 PM | Reply

www.google.com

#18 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-26 01:10 PM | Reply

Db,

"which isn't news, BillJ"

Are you aware there is a difference between news and "news" when someone refers to it in a post?

That is an important distinction.

Personally, I have always suspected a lot of science fiction may be rooted in a grain of truth.

Some well-known sci-fi writers were highly intelligent, scientifically informed, aware of longstanding rumors, or closely connected to UFO circles.

From my observation, over the last several years, as more personal accounts, government research, and public discussion have emerged, many of the things now being presented as actual "facts" seem to mirror decades old sci-fi themes more than contradict them.

#19 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-26 02:54 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

-- Are you aware there is a difference between news and "news" when someone refers to it in a post? --BillJ

I have no earthly idea what you are talking about. All kinds of words are used in people's postings, and they seem to have no idea of the definition. News has come to mean all kinds of things lately. We've had a generation, at least, lost to fake news and lies.

When someone refers to news in a post, it could mean it's news to them.

#20 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-05-26 04:15 PM | Reply

Looking back, I guess my point is that "new claims" doesn't mean the information was unknown. Just unacknowledged by the official sources.

Again, HRat?

#21 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-05-26 04:20 PM | Reply

I'd also love to hear from Coriolanus on remote viewing.

#22 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-05-26 04:22 PM | Reply

Db,

"I have no earthly idea what you are talking about"

Based on your posts, I'm not surprised.

Ask around.

If none of your friends can tell you the difference between news and "news", you need to find more intelligent friends.

#23 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-26 05:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Db,

Actually, calling something fake news would be in another category altogether.

It's neither news nor "news."

I agree the phrase fake news gets thrown around far too casually anytime someone dislikes what they're hearing.

But some things really are false information disseminated through the media, whether intentionally or because the people spreading it never bothered to verify it first and it actually was false.

If someone puts a word in quotes, it might mean something.

#24 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-26 05:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

How are you, DBT2?

Thanks for thinking of me.

From what I read last century, Soviet intelligence first attempted "Remote Viewing" because of their past Russian imperial experience dealing with mystics and shamans from the Far East. Rasputin had learned from a Mongol shaman which herbs, spices, or poisons worked effectively on the human body-- like stopping bleeding and hence his success with the Romanov family saving the Dauphin during his hemophilial episodes.

When CIA learned in the 1950s what the Soviets were doing, they dabbled with it as well. This led to the notorious MK Ultra experiments to expand human consciousness and led to the Unabomber (Harvard Class of '62).

The "remote viewing" concept was based on the concept of "the Third Eye," where the pineal gland is located behind the forehead. People with the "Third Eye" had an extra-sense, like knowing when someone is behind you and staring at you. Supposedly the "Third Eye" let a person see what what was going on in different places or what someone was thinking.

But the Soviets gave up on "remote viewing" before the USIC did.

One of the reasons why the West was behind the learning curve was the post-WWI craze of seances and talking to departed ones caused by the Great War and Spanish Flu. Harry Houdini debunked this type of "remote viewing" and so this ESP concept fell out of favor. The Soviets did not conduct mystical seances in the 1920s to talk to departed ones.

In a famous episode last century, Johnny Carson debunked Uri Geller on national TV from which the mountebank never recovered. You can Google it. The handsome Ricardo Montalban was also a guest on the show that night.

The "Third Eye" concept may fit into a Jungian sense of "synchronicity," or "meaningful coincidence" if indeed there is a world consciousness. The National Dream Center used to solicit people to submit their dreams every day. The NDC analysts would look for the one common dream that everybody had. In The Illustrated Man by Ray Bradbury, in one story everyone shared the same dream-- so therefore what they saw would come true-- which led to tragedy.

Examples of pro-active "remote viewing" did not work; but coincidentally seeing or learning something was attributed to that "Third Eye" and many people have such experiences.

"Oh, how did you know? That's my favorite flower!"

I did that with a song a few years ago.

Inexplicably on a whim one day I texted "Wedding Bell Blues" to a friend of mine.

Ten minutes later he texted back astonished: "How the heck did you know that's my favorite song?"


#25 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-05-26 05:27 PM | Reply

Cor,

Or how about the idea of religious prophets who have predicted the future or people claim to.

Did they?

A human mind functioning at maximum capacity may be capable of incredible feats.

There are reported cases of people being struck on the head and suddenly having skills they didn't have before.

Or how about mathematical savants?

They do complex math and spit out solutions without proofs or step-by-step explanations.

#26 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-26 05:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Here is an example of synchronicity that Morris provided just today: drudge.com

#27 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-05-26 05:46 PM | Reply

Just shooting in the dark...perhaps...

One of the reasons why the West was behind the learning curve is because the West has been conditioned via it's religions to be primarily associated with left brain activity, while the East has been conditioned by their religions to be primarily associated with right brain activity?

#28 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-26 05:49 PM | Reply

Db,
"I have no earthly idea what you are talking about"
Based on your posts, I'm not surprised.
Ask around.
If none of your friends can tell you the difference between news and "news", you need to find more intelligent friends.

#23 | Posted by BillJohnson

Noted. Based on your posts, I suppose I'm supposed to be offended and now it's time to do the dishes.

Or I'm done with you, until an hour from now.

I'll tell my friends to step up their game.

#29 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-05-26 06:58 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Is "The Lord of the Rings" rooted in "a grain of truth"?
Dracula?
Frankenstein?
Face it Bill, you're a deeply disturbed dumbass that latched onto Trump because you're a ------- moron racist self-hating ---.

#30 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-05-26 07:42 PM | Reply

Legal,

#19
Did you notice the use of the word "some"?

Look it up in a dictionary if you've never seen it used before.

#31 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-26 07:50 PM | Reply

Legal,

I'll help you out. Sorry it was too big a word for you.

Definition of "Some":

"Some" refers to an unspecified amount or number of something that is not clearly defined. It can be used in various contexts to indicate a part of a whole or an approximate quantity.

Usage in Sentences:

Indefinite Quantity: "Can I have some water?"
Approximate Number: "Some 80 people attended the event."
Part of a Group: "Some of the apples are bruised."

I said "some" writers.....that means not all.

#32 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-26 08:09 PM | Reply

Db,

Doesn't sound like you're really offended.

That's good. I like playful jabbing.

Some here are just mean, though.

Probably not very nice people to know.

Legal could have left it at, how about LOTR, for example. That would have been fine.

But he had to add f****** moron and f**.

That was not playful jabbing. That was just pure insults.

But the moderator allows that on this site, if it's aimed at people who aren't liberal.

#33 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-26 08:18 PM | Reply

- I like playful jabbing.

Playful bathhouse jabbing from what I hear.

But you are also OK with a President who's first act this time was to needlessly cause the death's of 100's of thousands of people, most children, mostly by starvation.

All so he could give himself and his friends tax cuts... which was much more important than waiting until other nations could take up the Aid slack in Africa.

Plus, he basically gave Africa to China by doing so.

#34 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-26 08:31 PM | Reply

Corky,

So how would you feel about Trump pulling ships and military assets out of NATO countries in Europe like is being suggested?

Does that mean he's "giving Europe to Russia" the same way you claim aid cuts are "giving Africa to China"?

#35 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-26 09:13 PM | Reply

I think you have no actual response for your Cult Leader murdering 100's of thousands of children by starvation to get tax cuts passed quickly for himself and his friends.

You obviously could not care any less.

And yeah, he likes Dictators like Vlad a lot better than he likes fairly elected Presidents in the EU.

He's a murdering Authoritarian traitor who's VP once called him, "America's Hitler". You know, before Shady V was bought and paid for.

Which is fine by you.

#36 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-26 09:49 PM | Reply

"Insectoids: Resemble a praying mantis and are bug-like beings. Rarely seen but appear as being "in charge""

Yup, definitely Zorak, lone mantis of the apocalypse.

#37 | Posted by sentinel at 2026-05-26 09:58 PM | Reply

Corky,

"You obviously could not care any less."

I'm old enough I've heard this sort of rhetoric over and over.

It's not my decision and not your decision what governments do.

I long since stopped tying my emotions to things I have no ability to do anything about.

There are horrible things happening all around the world.

Your virtue signaling has been noted.

#38 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-26 10:04 PM | Reply

Corky,

Now we are done.

Find someone else.

#39 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-26 10:06 PM | Reply

- rhetoric

It's not rhetoric, it's Facts.

And your vote counts, even if you mail it in.

You spend your time here making excuses for the worst President in American history, twice.

Then you say say what he does has nothing to do with you.

That's downright laughable.

#40 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-26 10:26 PM | Reply

Corky,

You should count your lucky stars you aren't on here desperately trying to defend Kamala for her problems.

#41 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-26 10:36 PM | Reply

It's not rhetoric, it's Facts.
And your vote counts, even if you mail it in.
You spend your time here making excuses for the worst President in American history, twice.
Then you say say what he does has nothing to do with you.
That's downright laughable.
Posted by Corky at 2026-05-26 10:26 PM | Reply

Bears repeating

#42 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2026-05-26 10:42 PM | Reply

#41

Your stupid Whataboutism is stupid.

Nothing Kamala might have done would have given us the corruption and war and high prices and loss of power in the world that Your Lard Saviour has done.

And she wouldn't have lost every swing voter that voted for her and currently putting up among the WORST APPROVAL POLLS of any Pres ever.

#43 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-26 10:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"You should count your lucky stars you aren't on here desperately trying to defend Kamala for her problems."
~BJ

Specifically...her LAUGH!. Disqualifying, wouldn't you say?
~BJ

#44 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-26 11:24 PM | Reply

"Nothing Kamala might have done would have given us the corruption and war and high prices and loss of power in the world that Your Lard Saviour has done."

BillJohnson always seems to believe in theories with no proof.

What's the word for that? Gullible? Schmuck? Slurper?

#45 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-26 11:27 PM | Reply

Gullible? Schmuck? Slurper?

Spreadsheet salesman?

#46 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-05-26 11:35 PM | Reply

Enjoy yourselves.

I'm glad I'm nothing like you miserable people.

#47 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-26 11:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Luke 18:9-14

#48 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2026-05-27 12:34 AM | Reply

True,

I have never claimed to be righteousness.

Just not miserable and full of anger.

Maybe you should read,

Matthew 7:1-2

#49 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-27 01:17 AM | Reply

"I'm glad I'm nothing like you miserable people.
#47 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2026-05-26 11:45 PM"

Thank you for not judging others.

Maybe you should read Matthew 7:1-2.

#50 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2026-05-27 04:19 AM | Reply

True,

Since you're the one who brought up religion pointing the finger at me, does that make you self-righteous?

#51 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-27 04:46 AM | Reply

"There are horrible things happening all around the world."

America used to stand against such things. We were a beacon of light and hope for the world.

Now we just add to the stack of horrible things happening all around the world.

Thanks Trumpy!

#52 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-05-27 10:59 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Yup, definitely Zorak, lone mantis of the apocalypse.

#37 | Posted by sentinel

My thirty-something sons see it now and look back and can't believe how twisted early Space Ghost was.

Brak was incomparable.

#53 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-05-27 11:35 AM | Reply

#25 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS

From my readings I understood remote viewing, more simply, to be a function where the mind could go to other places and see what was there without actually being there. And that the CIA thought this was something they could teach.

Somewhat akin to a lucid dreaming state, where a person can control their movements within that space.

#54 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-05-27 11:41 AM | Reply

Donner,

"America used to stand against such things."

For crying out loud, Trump is trying to keep one of the craziest regimes on earth from getting nuclear weapons.

You don't appreciate that because you've been conditioned by the "we oppose everything" crowd.

They love slogans about spreading love and feeding the poor, but expect someone else to do the heavy lifting.

The whole "love changes everything" movement was huge in the 60s, and after decades of that mindset we still have wars, dictators, terrorism and yes, hatred.

The one thing that never changes is human nature.

There's always people who think they really have the answers that will transform humanity, yet history keeps cycling through the same power struggles, conflicts, corruption, and disappointments over and over again.

#55 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-27 12:00 PM | Reply

54 Yes, that is the concept of "remote viewing," but nothing ever panned out for CIA according to their archives and interviews with former researchers and subjects, except allegedly this strange case from the 1980s: www.todayisamerica.com

I was relating how the Russians got there idea to explore "remote viewing" years before the US and the mindset around it. I don't think they had much success either.

There is a latter Columbo episode where a man who can "remotely view" is being vetted for a position at CIA.

The ESP specialist also happens to kill someone, which is why Columbo is on his trail.

"Columbo Goes to the Guillotine" (1989).


#56 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-05-27 12:08 PM | Reply

"For crying out loud, Trump is trying to keep one of the craziest regimes on earth from getting nuclear weapons."

He can't do that without bombing schools?
You. You believe anything Trump says.

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-27 12:33 PM | Reply

For crying out loud, Trump is trying to keep one of the craziest regimes on earth from getting nuclear weapons.

By attacking them and reminding them that once they get nukes America won't be able to attack them anymore? And you think that's a great plan?

For crying out loud is right. Obama had already successfully negotiated a nuclear agreement with Iran. Without firing a single shot.

No matter how many times Trumpy threatens to obliterate Iran's nuclear facilities and capabilities and bomb their school children they are not going to negotiate a nuclear agreement with him.

This "war" and these "negotiations" could go on for 3 years now or until a more reasonable US president takes the reins.

#58 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-05-27 12:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You don't appreciate that because you've been conditioned by the "we oppose everything" crowd.

What I do not appreciate is being lied to constantly and disrespected and treated like "the enemy" by my own President who is undermining the rule of law and the constitution in order to line his own pockets and those of his allies with taxpayer money.

Sic Semper Tyrannis

#59 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-05-27 12:48 PM | Reply

"For crying out loud, Trump is trying to keep one of the craziest regimes on earth from getting nuclear weapons."

Why is that America's concern, shouldn't, I dunno, Israel be the ones doing that?
Pakistan has nuclear weapons. Pakistan is an Islamic nation. Should Trump take Pakistan's nuclear weapons away?

I ask these questions to highlight that BillJohnson has never even thought about them.

#60 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-27 12:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

For crying out loud, Trump is trying to keep one of the craziest regimes on earth from getting nuclear weapons.

#55 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Poorly. Counter-productively.

The problem was solved and he ripped off the scab.

Stuff it.

#61 | Posted by Zed at 2026-05-27 01:57 PM | Reply

Cool, I get to recount my UFO sighting.

It was 1989, January. I was in the army, and I had just gotten off KP. It was 3 AM in the morning and I decided to blow off some steam doing situps behind the barracks before bed. This was in Ft. Belvoir, right outside of DC.

It came from over the horizon and shot across the entire sky, right overhead, in about three seconds. It looked like a ring of stars interconnected by a bluish filament of light. The circle was slightly irregular, and hollow in the middle. It was about ten times bigger than my outstretched hand against the sky 0 this thing was huge.

Those are "Crown of Light" UFO's and they are very rare.

Anyway, I checked my watch and I wasn't missing any time, so sadly I didn't get to have sex with any of them :(

#62 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2026-05-27 02:23 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

"He can't do that without bombing schools?"

Let's get something straight.

When an enemy deliberately hides among women and children, operates out of schools and hospitals, and uses civilians as shields, they are the ones putting those civilians in danger.

The fact is THEY are the ones killing their women and children when we attack them.

War is ugly, but responsibility does not begin with the people responding to attacks. It begins with the people who intentionally turn civilian areas into military positions.

If you ignore that reality, you're no longer thinking clearly about war, and instead are in bed with the enemy.

#63 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-27 03:15 PM | Reply

"When an enemy deliberately hides among women and children, operates out of schools and hospitals, and uses civilians as shields, they are the ones putting those civilians in danger."

Iran didn't do that.

The school wasn't hidden.
The enemy wasn't hiding among the students.
The enemy didn't operate out of the school.
The enemy didn't use civilians as shields.
There was no military target at the school.

#64 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-27 03:19 PM | Reply

"The fact is THEY are the ones killing their women and children when we attack them."

This is the thinking of a man who hits his wife, and tells her she left him no choice.

#65 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-27 03:20 PM | Reply

The fact is THEY are the ones killing their women and children when we attack them.

Um, it's their ------- country. You're not supposed to be attacking them.

Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune in North Carolina has seven schools in it's perimeter. Are the marines using school children as shields?

#66 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-05-27 03:21 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

"Why is that America's concern, shouldn't, I dunno, Israel be the ones doing that?"

Apparently, you don't understand what America is or what it represents.

Like it or not, America has been the stabilizing force behind much of the modern world for decades.

#67 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-27 03:21 PM | Reply

Snoofy,
"He can't do that without bombing schools?"
Let's get something straight.
When an enemy deliberately hides among women and children, operates out of schools and hospitals, and uses civilians as shields, they are the ones putting those civilians in danger.
The fact is THEY are the ones killing their women and children when we attack them.
War is ugly, but responsibility does not begin with the people responding to attacks. It begins with the people who intentionally turn civilian areas into military positions.
If you ignore that reality, you're no longer thinking clearly about war, and instead are in bed with the enemy.
#63 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-27 03:15 PM

Liar.

#68 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2026-05-27 03:21 PM | Reply

"Like it or not, America has been the stabilizing force behind much of the modern world for decades."

But we're not stabilizing the Middle East. Not any more. Not under Trump.

We are destabilizing the Middle East.
We are destabilizing the global economy.

#69 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-27 03:22 PM | Reply

Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune in North Carolina has seven schools in it's perimeter. Are the marines using school children as shields?
#66 | Posted by REDIAL

Worth repeating.

#70 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-27 03:24 PM | Reply

Redial,

"Um, it's their ------- country."

You're not the Commander in Chief, are you?

Just sit back and watch the show.

The pressure isn't on you and neither will be the fallout should it fail.

#71 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-27 03:24 PM | Reply

Snoofy,
"He can't do that without bombing schools?"

Let's get something straight.
Trump bombs schools, and I support Trump bombing schools.
#63 | Posted by BillJohnson

#72 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-27 03:25 PM | Reply

Doofy,

I don't see anyone attacking America, do you?

I was raised in the Army. There's always a large perimeter of civilians that develops around military posts.

You think you're clever, but you're not.

The difference is deliberately putting the military in the middle of a residential areas.

No more of your stupid trolling tonight.

Shoo...go away.

#73 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-27 03:31 PM | Reply

"The difference is deliberately putting the military in the middle of a residential areas."

That's not a thing that Iran did, BillJohnson.

No more than the United States does by having these things at Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune

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#74 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-27 03:34 PM | Reply

When America does it:
"There's always a large perimeter of civilians that develops around military posts."

vs.

When Iran does it:
"The difference is deliberately putting the military in the middle of a residential areas."

#75 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-27 03:41 PM | Reply

Too much TDS, too little aliens.

Hillary Clinton is a Reptoid. Discuss.

#76 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2026-05-27 03:45 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Like it or not, America has been the stabilizing force behind much of the modern world for decades.

#67 | Posted by BillJohnson

I think you meant 'destabilizing' in that sentence. We get involved where we arent wanted (needed or not) and bring a lot of hate our way. We assume people want to be saved and cant mind our own f**king business.

#77 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2026-05-27 03:49 PM | Reply

Too much TDS, too little aliens.
Hillary Clinton is a Reptoid. Discuss.
#76 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2026-05-27 03:45 PM

Deranged?! You can share BJ's bag of dicks.

The biggest issue is the memory wiping, imo.

Blatant stupidity or willful ignorance?

Obviously there no technological answer... right?

Discuss.

#78 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2026-05-27 04:05 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

"That's not a thing that Iran did, BillJohnson."

Iran does place military infrastructure near already existing civilian areas.

You are absolutely wrong.

Carry their water for them. I'm sure they appreciate it.

#79 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-27 04:44 PM | Reply

"Iran does place military infrastructure near already existing civilian areas."

So what?
The United States does that too.
It doesn't make it "okay" to bomb the civilians because there's military nearby.

If Iran bombed a school, you wouldn't be defending it because the school was near a military base.

#80 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-27 05:57 PM | Reply

"Iran does place military infrastructure near already existing civilian areas."

You mean like this:

Is The Pentagon "Military Infrastructure?"

Whe we built The Pentagon in 1947, did we place it near the already existing civilian areas of Alexandria and Washington, D.C.?

#81 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-27 06:00 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

I actually didn't realize until today just how dense you really are.

#82 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-27 06:09 PM | Reply

"According to figures compiled by the Iranian Ministry of Health, at least 376 children were killed in U.S. and Israeli airstrikes on Iran during the conflict.

Of these casualties, over 100 schoolchildren were killed in a single missile strike on a girls' elementary school in Minab on February 28, 2026, which investigations indicate was carried out by U.S. forces."

www.google.com

One supposes that the other 276 children killed elsewhere don't count, right?

This a war of choice... his way to get the Peace Prize he wants so badly.

Nice play; tear up the then existing Deal, and latter start a fight to get a new Deal... and that Peace Prize.

That's the problem with having a notorious criminal type in the WH.

#83 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-27 06:19 PM | Reply

Snoofy,
I actually didn't realize until today just how dense you really are.
#82 | Posted by BillJohnson

We know you've thrown in the towel when you resort to the ad hominems.

We're pretty sure you know it too.

#84 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-27 06:42 PM | Reply

One supposes that the other 276 children killed elsewhere don't count, right?
#83 | Posted by Corky

BillJohnson is the type of person who says, you have no right whining about dead children when you support abortion.

Because being okay with a mother choosing the outcome of her own pregnancy is pretty much the same thing as being okay with the government bombing a school.

But if course it's not the same, or BillJohnson would be okay with abortion, like he's okay with the government bombing schools.

But those minor details aren't important to him.

#85 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-27 06:48 PM | Reply

Like it or not, America has been the stabilizing force behind much of the modern world for decades.

#67 | Posted by BillJohnson

SE Asians and Central and Latin Americans and Africans any many others who lived through history and didn't have it fed to them as American exceptionalism history and propaganda feel quite differently.

You don't have to like it at all.

#86 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-05-27 07:06 PM | Reply

Snoofy,
I actually didn't realize until today just how dense you really are.
#82 | Posted by BillJohnson
We know you've thrown in the towel when you resort to the ad hominems.
We're pretty sure you know it too.

#84 | Posted by snoofy

Agreed. I always had a sneaking admiration for BillJ to deal with everything thrown at him with a bit of twisted serenity, control, and equanimity, all the content and excuses and religion and Trumpianism and mail-in ballots aside.

More recently, he seems to have become a bit of asshole. Which just throws him into general population around here. Myself included.

Well, at least he is possible of change.

#87 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2026-05-27 07:11 PM | Reply

Like it or not, America has been the stabilizing force behind much of the modern world for decades.

media.cnn.com

#88 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-05-27 07:13 PM | Reply

"Like it or not, America has been the stabilizing force behind much of the modern world for decades."

The irony of BillJohnson saying this is that BillJohnson voted for Trump to end America's leadership role in the world.
Trump explicity stated that's what he was going to do, to the love of Trumpers everywhere. And now, they cheer for a globally destabilizing war with Iran!

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Trump Has Launched a Second American Revolution. This Time, It's Against the World.

Just two months into his second presidency, Donald Trump is revolutionizing U.S. foreign policy. His policies will upend world order by destabilizing and ultimately destroying established institutions and patterns of international cooperation. Since 1945, the United States has been the leading champion, underwriter, and guarantor of an open, rule-bound global system under international law. Now, it rejects the logic of multilateralism, including any self-restraints on the exercise of U.S. power and any responsibilities for global leadership and stability.

In its scope and speed, this wholesale reorientation in U.S. foreign policy has few precedents in American history outside responses to surprise attacks such as Pearl Harbor or 9/11. One analogue is the sudden U.S. embrace of containment during the celebrated "fifteen weeks" of February-June 1947, bookended by the enunciation of the Truman Doctrine and the launch of the Marshall Plan. The difference today is that we are not at the creation but the destruction. American hands are shattering the institutional framework for global cooperation the world has long taken for granted. On the eve of the nation's 250th birthday, Trump has launched a second American Revolution. He is declaring its independence from the world America made.

This revolution in U.S. foreign policy is reverberating globally. Even long-standing U.S. allies are stunned by the speed of the administration's about-face, from its embrace of authoritarian Russia to its snubbing of democratic allies to its dismantling of foreign aid. Like Edmund Burke in his 1790 Reflections on the Revolution in France, they are grappling with the sudden demise of the ancien rgime"and considering how best to escape its upheavals.
carnegieendowment.org

#89 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-27 07:31 PM | Reply

@89

Dummkopf Trumpf Has Launched a Second American Revolution. This Time, It's Against the World.

Just as ICC-indicted war criminal Vladimir Putin has dreamed about since before 2016.

#90 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-05-27 07:40 PM | Reply

DJT is the more than slightly evilly demented criminal old fox in the hen house... I mean WH.

The chickens are in deep shat.

#91 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-27 07:49 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

So Trump is operating by a different set of rules and no longer automatically supporting a system where America pays the largest share while many Americans feel the country is not receiving a fair share of the benefits in return.

#92 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-27 08:32 PM | Reply

Db,

I'm certainly not changing to gain your approval.

You liked me better when I was more detached. Fine.

But I'm still the same person responding to the same crowd.

#93 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-27 08:39 PM | Reply

"So Trump is operating by a different set of rules"

Indeed he is.
War with Iran is operating under Trump's "different set of rules."
You voted for that, BillJohnson.
Do you disagree?

"and no longer automatically supporting a system where America pays the largest share"

Now you're just being shy.
Give Trump the credit he deserves.
Trump is destroying systems America built.
Trump destroyed 25% of cancer research funding.
Trump destroyed USAID. Ended the organization and seized the building.
Ending USAID is widely credited with the ongoing Ebola outbreak being as bad as it is.
You voted for that, BillJohnson.
Do you disagree?

"while many Americans feel the country is not receiving a fair share of the benefits in return."
And what do they think now, that oil is over $4 nationwide?
"Feelings" isn't a legitimate complaint and should not form the basis for how to govern.
Do you disagree?

#94 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-27 08:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Snoofy,

I'm not playing this game.

It's endless and tiresome.

#95 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-27 09:07 PM | Reply

"while many Americans feel the country is not receiving a fair share of the benefits in return."

Those people rejected the benefits.
Because the benefit of all that Pax Americana that Trump is destroying was: Immigration!
Immigration of the smartest and hardest working people from around the world, who actually believe America is the land of opportunity.
Do you know how much richer America is because Jensen Huang is here, and not in some other modern country?
That's an extreme example, but he's one of tens of millions. Historically, hundreds of millions. This nation is 98% immigrants.

The benefits of American foreign policy sold you Slurpees when you were a kid, and their kids are your doctors today.
These immigrants benefit America.

"Many Americans" don't like sharing America with non-white Fresh Off The Boat Americans.
They don't think they should have to.

Do you disagree?

#96 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-27 09:12 PM | Reply

I'm not playing this game.
It's endless and tiresome.
#95 | Posted by BillJohnson

It's not a game.
It's you, refusing to reflect on yourself.

#97 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-27 09:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Snoofy,

Don't ask me questions I won't be answering.

I said this is finished.

I'm not reading your posts.

#98 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-27 09:41 PM | Reply

Don't ask me questions I won't be answering.

GFY. You're the dumbest person here who thinks he's a genius, you mess.

#99 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2026-05-27 09:45 PM | Reply

Snoofy,
Don't ask me questions I won't be answering.
I said this is finished.
I'm not reading your posts.
Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-27 09:41 PM | Reply

Translation:Snoofy has your number and you don't want to admit it.

#100 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2026-05-27 09:46 PM | Reply

For crying out loud, Trump is trying to keep one of the craziest regimes on earth from getting nuclear weapons.

You don't appreciate that because you've been conditioned by the "we oppose everything" crowd.

My god BillJ is one stupid MFer.

#101 | Posted by jpw at 2026-05-27 11:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I actually didn't realize until today just how dense you really are.
#82 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

It's always hilarious when dumbf^*% Trumpers call others stupid because they don't believe a known liar and conman.

#102 | Posted by jpw at 2026-05-27 11:34 PM | Reply

Too much TDS, too little aliens.
Hillary Clinton is a Reptoid. Discuss.
#76 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2026-05-27 03:45 PM

Uh, I owe you an apology.

A photo spread of Hillary sunning her hairy green breasts wouldn't derail Trumps thread, which is every thread.

His effect is more unfortunate than unbelievable.

#103 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2026-05-28 12:14 AM | Reply

Crap. End bold.

#104 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2026-05-28 12:15 AM | Reply

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