Saturday, September 21, 2024

Kamala Agrees to Oct. 23 CNN Debate

Harris tweeted Saturday that she "will gladly accept a second presidential debate -- and that she hopes Trump "will join" her on October 23.

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My prediction, Trump will debate. He's in trouble in the polls and there's nowhere to go but up.

"It's 100 percent that he's going to debate," Scaramucci told CNN's Anderson Cooper on 'AC360,' I'll make that prediction here. He's a wrestler, you know, he's like a UFC thing. He's going to say he's not going to debate. He knows he lost the debate and he knows he's debating her again, but he has to have a buildup," said Scaramucci, who served 11 days in the Trump administration. "He think it's a negotiating chip. He's trying to show his macho flex."
thehill.com 09/13/24

#1 | Posted by censored at 2024-09-21 02:04 PM

How about a debate on Fox, fact check both candidates and no one gets the questions ahead of time? Crickets.

#2 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-09-21 02:26 PM

How about Fox pays Smartmatic billions for being the-------------'s mouthpiece.

#3 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-09-21 02:30 PM

Harris did not get questions ahead of time. They were obvious basic questions anyone running for president should be prepared for. Trump is a moron.

#4 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-09-21 02:31 PM

Sure Jan, and she also didn't give ABC a list of questions not to ask.

#5 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-09-21 02:36 PM

Visiturd's been flailing nonstop since his child-raping hero got trounced.

#6 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-09-21 02:39 PM

one gets the questions ahead of time? Crickets.
#2 | Posted by visitor_

Lol! No crickets here.

Kamala didn't do that amazing of a job. She was nervous, at least at first, and just re-hashed her stump speeches while ducking questions, as is SOP in most debates.

Your guy, on the other hand, defecated himself on stage and started eating it by the handful while muttering about foreigners at our gates and Black people eating pets. Told one ridiculous lie after another, even about the 2020 election that he soundly lost and the 60 court cases on that election which he also lost, many of them on the merits.

#7 | Posted by censored at 2024-09-21 02:49 PM

you gotta love the trumpers position on the debate. trump was cheated but still won but he wont do another debate.

but he will.

its peak incoherence.

#8 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-09-21 02:54 PM

One thing I will say Kamala excelled at during the debate was getting Trump to lash out like a toddler, revealing himself in all his putrescence.

The man has serious mental issues, and his old age has only made them worse. I genuinely worry for our nation if he somehow ends up in the Oval Office again.

#9 | Posted by censored at 2024-09-21 03:04 PM

CNN is a grossly politically biased venue. They refused to even show the invasion of 15 million illegals and they lied, just like the Biden Cabinet...the border is secure. Either go with a neutral (Fair and Balanced) venue like FOX or nothing. Fox showed the illegal invasion from day one and they show a lot of other non biased news that CNN covered up.

#10 | Posted by Robson at 2024-09-21 03:04 PM

How about a debate on Fox, fact check both candidates and no one gets the questions ahead of time? Crickets.

Wasn't the Trumpers' first gripe that Kamala didn't even bother to answer the questions she was asked? If so, then what questions do you think she knew in advance? Crickets.

Trump never gave a single substantive answer to a single question, so it wouldn't do him any good to know all the questions because his lizard brain doesn't do detail, it only spews invectives and non sequitur nonsense along with an endless demented stream of consciousness gibberish never connected to the topic at hand.

Fox never extended an invitation, so your question is moot. They've had weeks to ask both candidates to appear for a debate. Why haven't they?

They're trying to protect Trump from his worst vices. They know he'll only get curb-stomped further by Harris and don't want to get blamed for it afterwards - as Trump is sure to do if the moderators don't actively show every conceivable bias in his favor.

#11 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-21 03:06 PM

Putin's noxious orange bitch says no mas.

x.com

#12 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-09-21 03:09 PM

its peak incoherence.

Total cognitive dissonance.

#13 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-21 03:16 PM

Catturd called out dotard in 2022.

x.com

#14 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-09-21 03:16 PM

From the link in #12...

... The problem with another debate is it's just too late.. Voting has already started. ...

If that is how he really feels, i.e., that it is too late because voting has already started, wouldn't it also be too late for him to hold more rallies because voting has already started?

#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-21 03:20 PM

If Republicans can't shut down the government or even if they can Kamala will be running on who is better at preventing economic catastrophe. She has all the cards for leading us into the future; All she needs to do is keep asking what year MAGA refers to. Most Americans want a great future not a return to the past!

#16 | Posted by danni at 2024-09-21 03:30 PM

Harris did not get questions ahead of time.
#4 | Posted by Alexandrite

The affidavit is evidence there was more than that.

Do you have evidence?

#17 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-09-21 03:32 PM

The affidavit is evidence there was more than that.

What affidavit?

#18 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-21 03:34 PM

IAMRUNT gets duped again.

www.politifact.com

#19 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-09-21 03:35 PM

Fox never extended an invitation, so your question is moot
- TonyRoma

I knew you were lying when I read it.

I wasn't sure but it's so outrageous.

Fox News renews invitation for Harris, Trump debate
thehill.com

#20 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-09-21 03:36 PM

What affidavit?
#18 | Posted by tonyroma

Google is your friend

Living in a bubble is your choice.

#21 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-09-21 03:36 PM

Why is the demented orange pedo going back on his anytime, any place, anywhere pledge?

#22 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-09-21 03:39 PM

IAMRUNT gets duped again.

Of course.

I don't live in a bubble, but I certainly don't frequent the sewers of lies and disinformation that you do. I'd never think to refer to something so stupid from one source on Xitter.

Are you really this disreputable? Stupid question, all anyone need do is read your unsubstantiated posts and they'd learn the simple answer.

#23 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-21 03:41 PM

From the article cited in #19...

... The anonymous account's initial post included no evidence to support its claim.

The affidavit the account later shared, on Sept. 15, was impossible to authenticate and made unsubstantiated claims that it provided no evidence to support.

The affidavit's author claims to have secret recordings of conversations that would prove the allegations, but those have not been released.

Nevertheless, the claims ricocheted around the internet and Trump, his Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance and members of Congress amplified them. ...


#24 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-21 03:43 PM

I stand corrected on Fox News not proposing another debate on their channel, they most certainly did.

But Trump wizzed in that punchbowl by handpicking the moderators he wanted and dismissing those chosen by Fox News itself, saying that he wouldn't participate if Baier and McCallum were the hosts.

#25 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-21 03:45 PM

The affidavits' author claims to have secret recordings of conversations that would prove the allegations, but those have not been released.

Just like the video the Trump campaign swore it would release proving that the female worker at Arlington National Cemetery was the one in the wrong, not the two Trump thugs who physically pushed past her as she was doing her job.

#26 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-21 03:47 PM

Trump doesn't want to look like 1Nut on these pages....

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2024-09-21 03:57 PM

"Fox News renews invitation for Harris, Trump debate."

And with fact checking by Sean Hannity, LOL!

BTW, I've posted here a very long time but that was my first use of LOL! At least as my old memory serves.

#28 | Posted by danni at 2024-09-21 03:57 PM

"Harris did not get questions ahead of time."

In reality, EVERYBODY got the questions ahead of time. Team Trump just wasn't listening.

Abortion, the economy, the border, health care, Afghanistan, etc. In fact, there wasn't a single surprising question.

Trump (and his slurpers) are just whining because the lady on the other team did her homework. NO FAIR! ELECTION INTERFERENCE!!!

#29 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-09-21 04:16 PM

"Trump campaign swore it would release proving that the female worker at Arlington National Cemetery was the one in the wrong, not the two Trump thugs who physically pushed past her as she was doing her job."

And they would also like to rewrite the Insurrection at the Capital, the Iraq war, the Vietnam War The Great Republican Depression of 1929. WWII, Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ, Obama, and now the Future: Kamala Harris. Republicans don't create the future they just try to rewyite it. Hell, Ron Desantis has tried to rewrite slavery; it was really a trade school.

#30 | Posted by danni at 2024-09-21 04:17 PM

"And with fact checking by Sean Hannity"

Might as well get Baghdad Bob.

#31 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-09-21 04:18 PM

In reality, EVERYBODY got the questions ahead of time. Team Trump just wasn't listening.

No he was listening but he just had the wrong answer for everythin; MAGA. turns out.SURPRISE! Most Americans don't want to relive the bad old past!

#32 | Posted by danni at 2024-09-21 04:22 PM

Thing about MAGA; if the past was so great we wouldn't hao great so we changed itve changed anything but it just wasn't so great so we changed it. Which was better? 1929? or 1932?

#33 | Posted by danni at 2024-09-21 04:26 PM

Mike Drop!

#34 | Posted by igashosparks at 2024-09-21 04:32 PM

If Harris and her team were so confident, she would have requested a debate hosted by Fox. Dancing banana headlines would be if Fox / Trump declined that offer.

#35 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-09-21 04:35 PM

The putrid orange pedo won't debate again because he knows he got curbstomped the first time around.

#36 | Posted by Reinheitsgebot at 2024-09-21 04:41 PM

If Harris and her team were so confident, she would have requested a debate hosted by Fox. Dancing banana headlines would be if Fox / Trump declined that offer. #35 | Posted by gracieamazed

Only a fool would be confident when participating in a debate put on by the right-wing nutters at Fox. Or a Republican. I guess there might be some overlap in that Venn diagram.


Speaking of fools, I wonder if Fox News has paid that ~ $800 million settlement for repeating Hair Furor's lies about voting fraud.

#37 | Posted by censored at 2024-09-21 04:55 PM

Either go with a neutral (Fair and Balanced) venue like FOX or nothing.

#10 | Posted by Robson

You really should share what it is that you're smoking...

OCU

#38 | Posted by OCUser at 2024-09-21 04:55 PM

her puppet masters agree to cnn...

lol

illiterate coward !

#39 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-09-21 04:56 PM

Gracie suggests Fox for a debate but why? No ewal Democrat ever watches Foz and no Tepublican would ever watch MSNBC so I suggest the most honest and fair netwoek: PBS, oh wait the truth is biased in favor of Dems. Facts are also unfair advantages. It's almost like reality, outside Fox News, is slanted for Dems. Because Foxfreaks are rarely, if ever, exposed to truth. It is a little harsh when you are still in recovery from Fox addiction, but, hold on....it will get better! Jst remember a day without Hannity is a day without lies!

#40 | Posted by danni at 2024-09-21 04:57 PM

what would be the bigger "joke?"

another debate with moderators made up of members of the "committee to elect a democrat....any democrat ..even one who got zero votes

in presidential primaries ?

or the love fest word salad with Harvey Weinsteins #1 pimp the other day.

that's a tough choice.

#41 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-09-21 05:00 PM

The orange pedo is afraid of getting the VP's high heels jammed up his Putin-gaped keister again. #Trumpisacoward

#42 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-09-21 05:01 PM

#35

What you know about effective political strategy could be printed in full on one of the free tampons Minnesota gives away in schools for transgender biological men to use, Gracie.

If they could only invent one to stop the flow of idiocy memorialized from your wrinkled fingers, the world - and this blog - would be a far better place.

#43 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-21 05:04 PM

I watch a variety of news stations. PBS is not biased, LOL? Most of the liberals, like you, on this site, are glued to Fox news and news about Fox News. Where do YOU get your Hannity news from? Personally, at 9pm I am tuned into Barney Miller for one hour, before Carson comes on.

#44 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-09-21 05:08 PM

I don't care what network any debate would be on if they showed some integrity and respect for their
profession.

for instance if I were a moderator I would read this....

" Just because you legally possess a gun in the sanctity of your locked home doesn't mean that we're not going to walk into that home and check to see if you're being responsible and safe in the way you conduct your affair."

Kamala Harris / district attorney.

I would then ask her why Willie Brown didn't explain the 4th amendment during "pillow talk "

--and that's all I have to say about that...because that comment alone from her disqualifies her

from being even a white house tour guide.

#45 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-09-21 05:12 PM

#43 No one likes your current alias gaslighter failings. Go back to your joyful Legos.

#46 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-09-21 05:12 PM

#46

You ARE my Legos dear, lol. Hit a nerve? You just stepped on one, didn't you?

As with everyone else, it's not gaslighting when it's the truth - documented by a source - not pulled out of a girdle.

#47 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-21 05:16 PM

your current alias

tonyroma

Joined 2005/05/24

You're not very bright, are you?

And stop stealing Lamplighter's schtick. Come up with something original, ie., something invented after the PC.

#48 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-21 05:20 PM

How about a debate on Fox, fact check both candidates and no one gets the questions ahead of time? Crickets.
#2 | Posted by visitor_

Trump nixed a debate on Fox with the closest thing they have to journalists: Baier and MacCallm. He said he'd only debate on Fox if Hannity, Ingram and/or Watters moderated. LOL

#49 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-09-21 05:22 PM

You are accused of Gaslighting because it triggers you, every time. As for alias, everyone that is NOT Lamplighter is an alias. You two bring amusing joy to this community.

#50 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-09-21 05:24 PM

Video at link:

Trump (on Fox News!) says he doesn't want Martha MacCallum and Bret Baier moderating his debate because they didn't praise him enough after last night's debate, adding that he'd prefer "frankly Sean or Jesse or Laura"

x.com

#51 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-09-21 05:27 PM

You two bring amusing joy to this community.

Yeah, we know. We compete to see who can get the most Funny flags from you and Lefthandturds....

Both of you are so easily triggered most of the fun is long gone.

Now you're just tedious, but hey, I love you anyway.

#52 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-21 05:30 PM

OMG Runs to see who flags posts. It's worse than I thought.

#53 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-09-21 05:32 PM

#2 Visitor 1. Fox News supports Trump and so is biased. 2. No one gave either candidate the questions for the debate in advance. 3. Contrary to MAGA and Republicans' opinions, VP Harris is a highly intelligent, capable, and confident woman. 4. Only an idiot wouldn't know that the most probable questions to be asked of the candidates would be about abortion, inflation, taxes, high prices for consumers at the stores. She's not an idiot.

#54 | Posted by Ronnie68 at 2024-09-21 05:33 PM

No one has to run to see who flags serious posts as funny. That's been the SOP for you two for years.

#55 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-09-21 05:34 PM

#53

It's called reading, sweetie. Something I relish doing. Phrase it however you like, but when you look at the Recently Flagged page as I do, you see who flagged.

And the reason I peruse that page is to see what others deem as both Funny and Newsworthy - as the page was designed for. Many times I don't read every single thread and miss something either quite Funny or very relevant to me as well.

Sorry that my habits trigger you so. You should have someone look into that, maybe a laxative might help you feel better.

#56 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-21 05:37 PM

#55 And you know this, how?

#57 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-09-21 05:40 PM

#7 Censored What debate did you watch? It wasn't the debate I watched. She started off by encroaching into his space, greeted him and shook his hand first. She showed she wasn't afraid of him at all. She baited him and he took the bait. He went bonkers, making false claims about Haitians stealing peoples' pets and eating them. He was factchecked multiple times as he stated the same lies over and over again. She answered questions and he didn't. They asked him a question, he then answered by going off on tangents and never answering the question and going off topic every time.

#58 | Posted by Ronnie68 at 2024-09-21 05:42 PM

#1 | Posted by censored

A few weeks ago, Scaramucci shared that Trump's "tell" that Trump is lying is when he does his accordion player hands.

He would know from being acquainted with Trump for decades.

#59 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-09-21 05:44 PM

Gracie: What zone are you in that Carson still comes on at 10pm?

#60 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-09-21 05:44 PM

"She was nervous, at least at first,"

Only at first, i.e., when she was answering the first question, and only, as Ronnie68 points out, after she had made the ballsy move of walking over to him behind his podium and extending her hand for him to shake.

#61 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-09-21 05:47 PM

#60 Antenna TV. Xfinity carries the station and the 'Buffalo Bob' weapon of defense, a TV Antenna, in the bedroom picks it up.

#62 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-09-21 05:48 PM

YOU get your Hannity news from? Personally, at 9pm I am tuned into Barney Miller for one hour, before Carson comes on.

#44 | Posted by gracieamazed

Journalists often write about the crazy ---- hosts and guests say on Fox.

Fox + Fair & Balanced is an oxymoron.

#63 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-09-21 05:48 PM

^Eastern^

#64 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-09-21 05:50 PM

#7 Censored What debate did you watch? [...] #58 | Posted by Ronnie68

Yeah, gave her props for pressing his buttons in #9. Kamala did a good job setting him off. Played Trumpty-Dumpty like a fiddle.

As far as answering questions go, she did what was expected in this type of political "debate." Avoided the tough stuff, didn't go down the "lock box" path of Al Gore or whip out charts like Ross Perot. Most importantly, she did a good job introducing herself to the viewers who were unfamiliar with her. Nothing that relied upon receiving the questions ahead of time.

#65 | Posted by censored at 2024-09-21 05:55 PM

Trump's "Truth Social" is an obvious oxymoron!

#66 | Posted by danni at 2024-09-21 05:55 PM

And stop stealing Lamplighter's schtick. Come up with something original, ie., something invented after the PC.
Posted by tonyroma

Hey, don't bust Gracie's chops too much. You know what they say about imitation being the sincerest form of flatter. What people often don't know is the rest of that quote:

"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness." Oscar Wilde

#67 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-09-21 05:55 PM

@#10 ... CNN is a grossly politically biased venue. ...

Didn't fmr Pres Trump praise CNN and the CNN debate moderators after the Biden/Trump CNN debate?

And wasn't there a surprising lack of criticism of CNN by the MAGA cult after that debate?


So it would seem that fmr Pres Trump and his cult have no issues with CNN conducting a debate.



#68 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-21 06:00 PM

#44 Liberals don't watch Fox News, we don't want to get dumber. We get snippets of Hannity, etc. from Fox when we watch YouTube videos of Brian Tyler Cohen, The Young Turks, et al. They show such snippets to show how idiotic MAGAs, Trump, and Vance are and corrupt. We also watch Stephen Colbert, Seth Myers, and Jimmy Kimmel who show these snippets of Fox along with their commentary.

#69 | Posted by Ronnie68 at 2024-09-21 06:02 PM

Hey Gracie, even though I bust your chops sometimes - and we couldn't be more politically opposite if we tried - I'd never wish you anything but the best, and I mean that from my heart.

I was in your city in late February. My son got married at a vineyard in Callahan and we stayed in J-Ville for 3 nights. As with most people here, if we actually met - and recovered from the shock of seeing the living person doesn't have fire shooting from their eyes - we'd all probably like each other's company.

The reason I started blogging here 20 years ago was to have my ideas and notioned challenged by others with different perspectives. It took months before I'd interact with Tadowe, but I felt I usually held my own. Those days were a lot different than now after social media took off.

Anyway, I used to watch Antenna TV quite a lot years ago when I didn't have Directv Stream, but not so much today. I do watch Grit TV all the time lately which reminds me of my late adoptive father and his love of Westerns as I was growing up.

Sorry to go so off topic, but I needed to say a few things not out of spite, but simply out of human decency. In the immortal words of Dethspud, Be Well.

#70 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-21 06:04 PM

#70 Agreed. I have never wished/hoped for/posted anything bad to happen to others. I do not call for the assassination/harm of people I don't agree with politically. Can no longer get GRIT TV. But am grateful for Antenna TV. Enjoyed Mork & Mindy today while baking. Back at you, in the immortal words of Dethspud, Be Well.

#71 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-09-21 06:21 PM

How does gracie spent every day on this site and not know everyone can see who funny flags?

talk about oblivious ...

#72 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-09-21 06:22 PM

Since we are going off topic a bit in this thread, does anyone remember the handle of the poster who was a woman from PA who worked in healthcare? I haven't seen her post in a while, and I've been wondering what happened to her?

#73 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-09-21 06:28 PM

"Where do YOU get your Hannity news from?"

Late night comedy.

#74 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-21 06:50 PM

@#71 ... Enjoyed Mork & Mindy today while baking. ...

Hey, I was watching that also.

Good to see the first season episodes of that show. The first season was the best.

I always enjoy Ms Dawber trying to react appropriately to Mr Williams non-stop ad libs. Her ability in that area was most excellent.

:)



#75 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-21 06:57 PM

does anyone remember the handle of the poster who was a woman from PA who worked in healthcare? I haven't seen her post in a while, and I've been wondering what happened to her?
#73 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

EarthMuse? drudge.com

#76 | Posted by censored at 2024-09-21 07:49 PM

How about a debate on Fox, fact check both candidates and no one gets the questions ahead of time? Crickets.
#2 | Posted by visitor_

How about a "debate" on a network that has NOT been successfully sued for lying to Americans and who happily repeats Russian propaganda? Crickets.

#77 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-21 07:51 PM

ONE!QIRONY:

An affidavit is not evidence in any court, not even at the level of a joke for a lawyer.
For example, There were hundreds of "affidavits" after the 2020 election swearing there was fraud. NOT A ONE was proven valid because there was no...(wait for it!)...evidence.

My goodness; do try to lie better. Amateur lying is so 2020.

#78 | Posted by e1g1 at 2024-09-21 08:03 PM

Alex,

"Harris did not get questions ahead of time."

I am reading Harris was not fact checked once and Trump was fact checked multiple times and of those some have been proven to be correct although the moderators called him out for being wrong.

Is there is any validity to this claim?

Just answer yes or no.

#79 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-09-21 08:50 PM

Alex,

If you answer no, which of the claims I just made, specifically which ones are lies?

#80 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-09-21 08:54 PM


@#79 ... Is there is any validity to this claim? ...

Well, for starters, maybe post a link of what "you read."


#81 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-21 08:56 PM

@#80 ... which of the claims I just made, specifically which ones are lies? ...

Link needed.

What's yer got?

#82 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-09-21 08:57 PM

Alex,

I didn't watch the entire debate.

She lost me when you avoided the first very question.

So I decided to read about it later.

What I mentioned above is what is being reported on more conservative sites.

Be specific. Which of the claims I made simply didn't happen?

#83 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-09-21 08:57 PM

Lamp,

I just told you what I've read.

Is it correct or not?

Doesn't matter where I read it.

Is it correct? Is there any truth to it?

I don't automatically accept everything I read so I'm asking this site if there is truth to it and which of the points are wrong.

#84 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-09-21 08:59 PM

Lamp,

Don't use the "post a link" routine to deflect my question.

#85 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-09-21 09:01 PM

Just looking for someone who is more knowledgable about the debate to respond to this claim being made on the conservative sites.

#86 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-09-21 09:07 PM

" I didn't watch the entire debate."

go watch it.

#87 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-09-21 09:11 PM

The estimate abc used was harris lied once and was never fact checked by the moderators.

trump lied 33 times and was fact checked 3 times.

#88 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-09-21 09:12 PM

How does gracie spent every day on this site and not know everyone can see who funny flags?

talk about oblivious ...

POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2024-09-21 06:22 PM | REPLY | FLAGGED FUNNY BY GRACIEAMAZED

what a moron.

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#90 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-09-21 09:17 PM

#86

Following the debate, CNN's Daniel Dale reported Trump made at least 33 false claims during the debate, compared with one from Harris.

"This was a staggeringly dishonest debate performance from Trump. Just lie after lie on subject after subject," Dale said.

In fairness, Politifact goes into much more detail about every disputed statement or comment, finding Harris was misleading or false in statements, but that was because she said something like "Trump had the worst deficits" when in fact George W. Bush actually had worst at the end of his Administration. Trump's lies mostly had no validity at all, especially the ones he was verbally fact-checked on in real time.

Harris did not offer any patently false comments in the volume or manner Trump did.

#91 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-21 09:20 PM

Hey Bill, here is an irrefutable fact, not open to interpretation and not the subject of conspiracies.

------- spoke for 14% more time than Harris.

Now, please interpret that as being unfair to -------.

#92 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-09-21 09:24 PM

does anyone remember the handle of the poster who was a woman from PA who worked in healthcare? I haven't seen her post in a while, and I've been wondering what happened to her?
#73 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

EarthMuse? drudge.com
#76 | Posted by censored

I thought her user name had PA in it. I think she worked in a medical lab. Maybe did some kind of medical research.

#93 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-09-21 09:29 PM

And let's be completely clear here on why Trump lies like he does and why he abhors moderators fact checking him on the spot.

He is a master at the Gish Gallop fallacy technique, where one tells so many lies or mistruths in a back-and-forth debate that the other person will spend all of their time responding to what he said, instead of getting their own points and viewpoints across to the audience. It puts Trump's opponent at a disadvantage and him in the dominant position of basically controlling what's being addressed.

Again, this is why fact checking Trump is the equivalent of shining natural sunlight on a vampire. As you saw if you watched the debate, he immolated on live tv.

#94 | Posted by tonyroma at 2024-09-21 09:35 PM

I thought her user name had PA in it. I think she worked in a medical lab. Maybe did some kind of medical research.
Posted by Gal_Tuesday

Hey poster from PA I am thinking of, if you see this, drop in and say, "Hi!" This former yinzer would love to hear from you.

#95 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-09-21 09:40 PM

I thought her user name had PA in it. I think she worked in a medical lab. Maybe did some kind of medical research.
Posted by Gal_Tuesday

Oh, wait, now that I'm thinking about it I think her user name had Keystone in it. PA is the Keystone state.

Why is Pennsylvania called the Keystone State?
www.abc27.com

#96 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-09-21 09:54 PM

I am reading Harris was not fact checked once and Trump was fact checked multiple times and of those some have been proven to be correct although the moderators called him out for being wrong.

Is there is any validity to this claim?

Just answer yes or no.

Yes this is a valid claim. In fact it was part of the affidavit I mentioned above. She was offered No fact check, and no discussion about situation with Biden.
My guess is this was all part of the Harris mics off bid, negotiated.

It's a fact all the negotiations were ABC alone with Harris team, no Trump team at meetings. This is really incredible and looks especially suspicious.

Following the debate, CNN's Daniel Dale reported Trump made at least 33 false claims during the debate, compared with one from Harris.

Harris lied about Trump constantly it was a plethora of hoaxes, one after the other

"bloodbath", "fine people hoax", his stance on a "abortion", dictator on day one.

And I bet she doesn't own a firearm.

Trump's lies mostly had no validity at all, especially the ones he was verbally fact-checked on in real time.

Trump correctly stated crime has rise, the moderator was incorrect. This is the problem with fact checking moderators especially when biased.

Data backs up Trump on crime increase, violence up under Biden-Harris administration
www.washingtontimes.com

Everyone knows the FBI data is incomplete without LA, NYC

#97 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-09-21 11:03 PM

Trump's a weak coward.

Presidential candidates have debated most often in October.

Donald Trump said that it is "just too late" for another debate with Kamala Harris, after the vice president said earlier today that she has accepted CNNs proposal for an Oct. 23 event.

deadline.com

#98 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-09-22 01:33 AM

#97

Do you tire of being a lying idiot?

#99 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-09-22 03:43 AM

Trump correctly stated crime has rise, the moderator was incorrect. This is the problem with fact checking moderators especially when biased.
Data backs up Trump on crime increase, violence up under Biden-Harris administration
www.washingtontimes.com
Everyone knows the FBI data is incomplete without LA, NYC

#97 | Posted by oneironaut

You and the article are literally using a survey only and comparing it to the year everyone was on lock down.

You really are this dumb, aren't you?

#100 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-09-22 03:52 AM

One,

"It's a fact all the negotiations were ABC alone with Harris team, no Trump team at meetings."

What negotiations? Do you mean setting up the terms of the debate or something else?

#101 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2024-09-22 07:10 AM

Oh, wait, now that I'm thinking about it I think her user name had Keystone in it. PA is the Keystone state.
#96 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

Yeah, sounds familiar. Unfortunately, I'm blanking on the handle.

#102 | Posted by censored at 2024-09-22 07:42 AM

Regarding Trump's patently false "it's too late for debates because people have started voting" excuse even as he's holding rallies to win votes (thereby showing that it's not anywhere close to being too late to hold debates), I said a few month's ago he would squirm out of debating Joe giving some lame reason.

"I can't debate, I'm under audit!" was the ludicrous example I came up with. Little did I know he would actually think up one that was even worse.

#103 | Posted by censored at 2024-09-22 07:45 AM

The only fact here is trump is chicken to debate again. It went horribly for him last time and he doesn't want the world to see a woman dominate him again. What an"alpha male", lol.

Harris will win easily no matter if there is another debate or not. While trump embraces the Pervy "black nazi" Harris is taking in hundreds of millions more than the traitor.

Oh he was fact checked as he had some pretty big whoppers he told. Harris did not do this. See, Fox also tells huge whoppers to its viewers who fall for it hook, line and sinker. It's called brainwashing and gaslighting. It's why fox had to pay so much to dominion. For lying about the 2020 election.

Lies and hate are being flushed down the toilet this election cycle and Harris will win in a landslide. It's coming ...

#104 | Posted by NOTGOINGBACK at 2024-09-22 08:23 AM

In reference: #97 | Posted by oneironaut

MAGAts believe that everyone is as stupid and gullible as they are.

And while we might have been born at night, it wasn't last night.

See also: Sh*tposting.

#105 | Posted by Hans at 2024-09-22 09:40 AM

---- off, Jeffy.

#107 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-09-22 11:21 AM

It's time to change the status of places like the babylonbee from satire to organization that showcase

just how ignorant the leftist-dogma klan is today compared to "classic liberalism"

--We can't afford another 4 years of this...

says the running mate of candidate who's been running the country for the last 4 years.

..bragging she's the " last person in the room.'

( go ravens / texans / and Orioles.....MAKE ME MONEY TODAY !!

#108 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-09-22 12:57 PM

god!stop playin' games!!

#106 | POSTED BY BEEF_SUPREME

You first!

Welcome to the Grand illusion
Come on in and see what's happening
Pay the price, get your tickets for the show
The stage is set, the band starts playing
Suddenly your heart is pounding
Wishing secretly you were a star

But don't be fooled by the radio
The TV or the magazines
They show you photographs of how your life should be
But they're just someone else's fantasy

So if you think your life is complete confusion
Because you never win the game
Just remember that it's a grand illusion
And deep inside we're all the same
We're all the same

So if you think your life is complete confusion
Because your neighbors got it made
Just remember that it's a grand illusion
And deep inside we're all the same

America spells competition, join us in our blind ambition
Get yourself a brand new motor car
Someday soon we'll stop to ponder what on earth's this spell we're under
We made the grade and still we wonder who the hell we are
-Styx, The Grand Illusion.

#109 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-22 01:09 PM

Trump landed some blows but Harris won the debate.

Another debate is an advantage for her.

Best thing Trump can do is agree to this debate condoned upon doing a debate on Fox, prior to the CNN debate.

I don't think she'd agree to it and that would give Trump an exit ramp.

#110 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-09-22 01:36 PM

Best thing Trump can do is agree to this debate condoned upon doing a debate on Fox, prior to the CNN debate.

True. It's too close to the election to have another debate but it's not too close to have two.

#111 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-09-22 01:59 PM

" True. It's too close to the election to have another debate but it's not too close to have two.

#111 | POSTED BY REDIAL AT 2024-09-22 01:59 PM | REPLY"

If it weren't for early voting it definitely would not be too close to the election for one or two more debates.

#112 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-09-22 02:03 PM

If tRump doesn't want to debate CNN should turn it into a Harris town hall.

#113 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-09-22 03:12 PM

Lewzer wouldn't even debate on FOX unless they brought Sucker Carlson back to moderate.

#114 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-09-22 03:17 PM

If it weren't for early voting it definitely would not be too close to the election for one or two more debates.

#112 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Too early to make up lies with Kamala ON the stage but not too early to continue to spread lies without her.

#115 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-09-22 05:05 PM

How about a debate on Fox...

#2 | Posted by visitor

No thanks. I'd rather see it on a network that reports actual news.

#116 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-09-22 05:54 PM

Trump is a man. a legend and folk hero. America is fortunate to have him. Multiple American folk and country songs have been written for him many with millions of views as an indication. Why would he waste his time in a fixed manipulated media
debate with a known academic ZERO and a flippant sidekick pretender of rural patriot man in a phony camo cap.

#117 | Posted by Robson at 2024-09-22 06:06 PM

Trump has refused the debate indicating he has a conflict in his calendar.

According to Donald, he is umm...washing his hair that night or something.

#118 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-09-23 10:31 AM

Trump is a man. a legend and folk hero. America is fortunate to have him. Multiple American folk and country songs have been written for him many with millions of views as an indication. Why would he waste his time in a fixed manipulated media
debate with a known academic ZERO and a flippant sidekick pretender of rural patriot man in a phony camo cap.

#117 | Posted by Robson

Millions of views? Wow. There are cat videos with more views.

#119 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-09-23 10:36 AM

In reference: #97 | Posted by oneironaut

Hans

Hans Meyer

Seniority: 24

Party: Democrat

Ideology: Liberal

Private E-mail
No Home Page

Joined 2005/06/16
Visited 2024/09/21

Somewhere there's a tree exchanging CO2 for O2, just for you, oneironaut.

Please find it and apologize.

Also, and just for you, since it appears you're a newbie when it comes to using the Internet.

You're welcome.

#120 | Posted by Hans at 2024-09-23 11:38 AM

#120

lol... 1Nut is to China what Trump is to America; a total embarrassment.

#121 | Posted by Corky at 2024-09-23 12:48 PM

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