Wednesday, September 17, 2025

Patel Claims 'no credible information' that Epstein Trafficked Minors to Others

FBI Director Kash Patel said Tuesday that the bureau has "no credible information" that sex offender Jeffrey Epstein trafficked young women to other individuals beside himself. He also said the "original sin" in the Epstein case was former Trump cabinet member Alex Acosta's handling of it.

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NEW: FBI Director Kash Patel says recent court orders " related to a few dozen pages of grand jury material " are preventing him from releasing the FBI's massive trove of Epstein files. That's not what the courts actually said.

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" Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney.bsky.social) Sep 17, 2025 at 11:57 AM

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From "Trump team finds someone to throw under the bus on Epstein" (www.cnn.com):

Tuesday's Senate hearing featuring FBI Director Kash Patel didn't shed a ton of light on the substance of the Jeffrey Epstein files. But it was hugely significant in another way: It signaled a new political effort by the Trump administration to ascribe blame.

And the target is none other than a former top Trump administration official " one whom Trump very notably once defended.

#1 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-09-17 06:51 AM

Hi Doc Sarvis: Don't mean to throw a monkey wrench in your OP.

FWIW: drudge.com

#2 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-17 07:01 AM

Thanks for that link!

#3 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-09-17 07:14 AM

an even bigger beta than his employer

Didn't he write a children's book fawning over Trump as a king?

#4 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-17 08:45 AM

Also, the dude bruh "rest easy, brother, we have the watch, I'll see you in Valhalla" was the cheesiest cliche ridden nonsense I've heard in a long time. A tacky attempt at the warrior ethos from a guy whose entire experience with it is watching movies and probably video games.

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-17 09:02 AM

That line has to be in contention for 2025 COTY (Cringe Of The Year).

As well as the inspiration for my nu-metal band Hindu Valhalla

#6 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2025-09-17 09:15 AM

The head of the FBI doesn't know who Dylan Roof is.

bsky.app

#7 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-17 01:26 PM

Patel is an unqualified substandard moron.

#8 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-17 01:51 PM

Why is there a crackhead running the FBI? This is just pathetic, America deserves better than this, especially the trumpstein victims.

#9 | Posted by 2020Rocks at 2025-09-17 01:53 PM

Patel is a dipshot!

#10 | Posted by Wildman62 at 2025-09-17 01:55 PM

'the bureau has "no credible information" that sex offender Jeffrey Epstein trafficked young women'

Just release the files.

We'll be glad to evaluate that at no charge.

#11 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-17 01:55 PM

Bugsy Patel is covering up the Trumpstein Files.

www.alternet.org

#12 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-17 01:55 PM

Why is there a crackhead running the FBI?

#9 | POSTED BY 2020ROCKS

My wife thought that he had to be on stimulants.

#13 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-17 01:56 PM

Problem is, beyond being a mess Keystone Kash is a terrible judge of what is and what is not "credible." That's because he lies. A lot.

#14 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-09-17 01:58 PM

This is Patel telling accusers they are not credible. Patel wants to see them kill themselves like Virginia Giuffre.

#15 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-09-17 02:09 PM

I mean to say that is what Patel's statement indicates to me that he desires.

#16 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2025-09-17 02:11 PM

Alex Acosta is scheduled to testify behind closed doors this Friday.

It's obvious there's a coverup going on.
And the identities of some of the cast of characters is, likewise, obvious.
They should just get it over with, lance the boil, cut to the chase and tell us what it is.
That they continue this absurd coverup tells you something.
What it tells us ... no, what it bellows out is this:
The coverup is designed to bury some truly nasty information.
Stuff so bad it might affect the puke reflex even on a lot of MAGAts.
And that's bad.

#17 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-09-17 02:39 PM


Patel is an unqualified substandard moron.

#8 | Posted by Alexandrite

He maybe but, help me out is there any new evidence since he's been in charge?

IOW when Trump DOJ brought him, is there new evidence? Did Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden DOJ miss something?

"The indictment unsealed today alleges that, between 2002 through 2005, EPSTEIN sexually exploited and abused dozens of underage girls by enticing them to engage in sex acts with him in exchange for money."
www.justice.gov

Just seems like the chance of this changing would have happened under Biden if there was evidence.
I get it both sides want some one on the other team to be guilty, but either they are both covering for each other, or there is just nothing there.

#18 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-17 02:49 PM

This is Patel telling accusers they are not credible.

No, it would seem that their evidence isn't credible.

#19 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-09-17 02:50 PM

All of you fckkers who think Patel is lying, you owe the country an explanation as to why Preznit Shower Daddy didn't make it rain perps when he was in office.

You have no credibility. Raetards, the whole lot of you.

#20 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-17 02:51 PM

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#21 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-09-17 02:58 PM

"you owe the country an explanation as to why Preznit Shower Daddy didn't make it rain perps when he was in office."

Isn't a little ironic that with Trump as President we're getting closer to the truth than we were when Biden was president?

Or maybe it's just an illusion we are getting closer, what with these hearings and all the coverage it's getting, the accusers coming forward in interviews, etc.

At the end of the day there is no guarantee we will ever really know more than we do now.

I'd love to see the files released just as much as anybody else. Covering for Trump seems to be the theory but there are folks without a political axe to grind who suggest there are other world figures who were being extorted by Epstein. Not sure where that takes us but I'd love to see the files released.

#22 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 02:59 PM

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Why are you trying to dismiss a fair question?

If you don't have an answer, then just say so.

#23 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 03:01 PM

Re #20

No one here owes you anything you farging gasbag.

#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-17 03:01 PM

#21 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-09-17 02:58 PM | Reply | Flag:

Do you even realize how retarded that is? You're literally saying Biden participated in a coverup.

#25 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-17 03:01 PM

"Isn't a little ironic that with Trump as President we're getting closer to the truth than we were when Biden was president?"

That's what braying at the moon and getting your mob hyped up will do.
Gosh, now the rubes actually want to see what's in those files the yammers were yammering about.
Whodathunkit?
So, either there's nothing there or Trump's covering up for the Democrats Biden was covering up for?
Is that how it runs these days?
Nah.
There's some nasty stuff in there.

#26 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-09-17 03:05 PM

"Isn't a little ironic that with Trump as President we're getting closer to the truth than we were when Biden was president?"

By saying Epstein never trafficked minors and burying the Epstein files.

You're a god-damned idiot, sonny.

#27 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-09-17 03:06 PM

Why are you trying to dismiss a fair question?

Is it really a "fair" question?

Why do you think it's "fair"?

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-17 03:06 PM

No, it would seem that their (victims) evidence isn't credible.

#19 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAU

Jesus. Everyone in the entire world except you knows that Epstein was a rapist and a pimp.

#29 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-17 03:06 PM

Or maybe it's just an illusion we are getting closer

#22 | POSTED BY EBERLY

We don't even have that.

Donald Trump is simply stonewalling because whatever is in those files hurts him, his family, and his friends very badly.

#30 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-17 03:09 PM

#25
I'm not the one who has Biden in some cover up. That's the Trumpies. The line is Biden covered up for Dems. But, if so, why is Trump covering up for the Dems Biden covered up for? Or was there no cover up by Biden, after all?

Nope, the tornado of lies is all coming out of the WH and for some reason Trump is desperate to keep those files in the darkness.

Why?

#31 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-09-17 03:10 PM

You're literally saying Biden participated in a coverup.

#25 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Wouldn't you like to know what part Biden really played in this? If any?

Release the damned files.

Keeping that information secret make Trump look guilty, not Biden.

#32 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-17 03:10 PM

If we're gonna have some fun diagnosing Trump's behavior as evidence of something.....okay, let's play......

Because Trump loves to be hated......I'm not shocked at his behavior even if there is nothing in those files. Pretending he's worried about them, his friends (LOL....friends), anybody the US has a vested interest in NOT seeing them implicated in the banging of 13 year olds, etc.

IOW, if in fact there is nothing in those files.....he would still act this way.

Now, if there is something in those files....then that would explain his behavior.

But it doesn't explain Biden's. At least not to anybody's satisfaction.

remember.....most folks who are so hot to see these files are 100% sure of what's in them.

Of the people who aren't that hot to see them? They don't pretend to know at all......

#33 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 03:11 PM

Do you even realize how retarded that is? You're literally saying Biden participated in a coverup.

#25 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

No he isn't gasbag. And this is why it's NOT A FAIR QUESTION.

Biden did not push for an investigation into the Epstein files because that's not his job.

In the U.S. system, it is a long-standing norm for presidents not to direct the Department of Justice (DOJ) to investigate specific individuals. This practice protects the DOJ's independence and prevents the weaponization of law enforcement for political purposes.

The President has a constitutional duty to "take care that the laws be faithfully executed" but is not meant to control specific criminal prosecutions. Directing the DOJ to investigate particular individuals target political rivals or protect allies is an abuse of that power.

A functional democracy relies on the public's trust that justice is applied impartially, based solely on the facts and the law. Presidential interference could undermine this trust by creating the perception that political loyalty, rather than objective facts, influences legal outcomes.

Trumpy and his minions are obviously not interested in maintaining a functional democracy.

#34 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-17 03:12 PM

Biden-Not in the Epstein Files
Pedo 47-All over the Epstein Files and Lolita Express flight logs

#35 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-09-17 03:12 PM

And when you read the Republican version of the hearings, everything went fine for the worst director in the history of the FBI:
www.judiciary.senate.gov

#36 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-09-17 03:12 PM

Why do you think it's "fair"?

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-17 03:06 PM | Reply | Flag:

Because otherwise, your silence is consent that Biden participated in a coverup.

#37 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-17 03:12 PM

-Is it really a "fair" question?

If you really believe these files contain some "nasty stuff" especially with Trump's name on it.....it IS a fair question to ask why Biden didn't release them

Just pretend to be Zed "Release the damn files"...except go back in time 2 years.

#38 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 03:14 PM

All of you fckkers who think Patel is lying

#20 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS A

We KNOW Patel is lying. We KNOW Trump is lying.

All they have to do to make us look stupid is to release the files.

MAGA has clogged up your mind like sh-- in a toilet.

#39 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-17 03:14 PM

Just pretend to be Zed "Release the damn files"...

#38 | POSTED BY EBERLY

You've got something against releasing the files, EBERLY?

This is an appropriate place to spell that out.

#40 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-17 03:16 PM

-You've got something against releasing the files, EBERLY?

nope. already covered that.

#41 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 03:17 PM

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why is that an excuse for Biden and not Trump?

#42 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 03:18 PM

nope. already covered that.

#41 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Then the role you're playing here is that of village idiot.

#43 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-17 03:18 PM

why is that an excuse for Biden and not Trump?

#42 | POSTED BY EBERLY

The point that's been over and over again is that we're beyond making excuses for anyone.

This a a Soul of the Nation moment.

We can either deal with it or be just as nasty as Epstein and Trump.

#44 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-17 03:19 PM

You people are desperate and shows. This is the type of thing that keeps driving the democrat party to losses. Not just the hypocrisy and the dishonesty, but the fact that there's literally hundreds of things you could start doing to prepare for a decent campaign. But here you are wallowing in the last thing you have to hold on to - the thing you wouldn't even expect from your own President you voted for.

Good luck with all that.

#45 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-17 03:20 PM

-The point that's been over and over again is that we're beyond making excuses for anyone.

Let me introduce you to Donnerboy.

He's not done making excuses for Biden.

#46 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 03:22 PM

You people are desperate

#45 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Then releasing the full Epstein files would show that.

Argument?

#47 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-17 03:22 PM

Because otherwise, your silence is consent that Biden participated in a coverup.

#37 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

No. It isn't. You just made that shat up.

Even in a court of law you can't draw negative conclusions from no response.

You lie and lie and pretend it's normal. Just like Shady JD makes up his statistics without batting an eye or ever apologizing.

Like Trumpy claiming 300 million Americans have been killed by drugs from Venezuela.

It's not normal to lie so much.

Nothing about this administration or its rabid hateful followers is normal.

#48 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-17 03:22 PM

#46 | POSTED BY EBERLY

You're making this about ZED and DONNERBOY.

LFTHNDTHRDS is doing concern trolling for Democrats on how to win the midterms.

I am sure there most be a word for this sort of dishonesty.

#49 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-17 03:23 PM

Well, that clears Prince Andrew. Hahahahaha.

I wonder what thosee 10 girls will testify. I mean 7. The survivors. That we know of.

#50 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2025-09-17 03:24 PM

-You're making this about ZED and DONNERBOY.

Normally I get accused of making it about myself.

Not sure how I managed this....

Is there anybody here who will assert they don't want these files released?

#51 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 03:26 PM

Let me introduce you to Donnerboy.

He's not done making excuses for Biden.

#46 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Let me introduce you to reality.

Reminding you that it's not normal for the President to conspire with the DOJ like this administration does is not an "excuse".

Which of course why it's NOT a "fair question".

Do try harder.

#52 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-17 03:26 PM

Depends on what your definition of 'credible' is.

Covering for your boss? Covering for Bill Clinton? Covering for, say, Hunter Biden? Covering for billionaires? Spies? Not credible.

#53 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-09-17 03:28 PM

Is there anybody here who will assert they don't want these files released?

#51 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Play the man, LFTHNDTHRDS.

#54 | Posted by Zed at 2025-09-17 03:29 PM

-Which of course why it's NOT a "fair question".

So because Trump is a crook and Biden wasn't....that's the difference? Trump should direct the DOJ to release the files, which you admit is wrong and outside the scope of the president's responsibilities, but since he doesn't give a shit anyway....then do it.

But since Biden wouldn't do such a thing.....it's not fair to make him do something unethical and outside the scope of his office.

#55 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 03:30 PM

Trump said releasing the files would be the second thing, after stopping the war in Ukraine, he would do on day one. Now there is nothing credible. Trump lies like a rug.

#56 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-09-17 03:31 PM

So because Trump is a crook and Biden wasn't....

Sure. Can't disagree with that.

But. You ask why Biden did not release the files.

Because Biden respected the rule of law and did not conspire with the DOJ like they were his personal lawyers. He let the DOJ investigations take their natural course. As he should have.

Why don't you ask a reasonable and valid question like why didn't democrats demand their release during the Biden administration?

#57 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-17 03:35 PM

57

you're right. Excellent points.

#58 | Posted by eberly at 2025-09-17 03:37 PM

One thing in common, Pam Bondi and Merrick Garland won't touch those files with Bill Barr's dick.

#59 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-09-17 03:39 PM

Trump should direct the DOJ to release the files, which you admit is wrong and outside the scope of the president's responsibilities, but since he doesn't give a shit anyway....then do it.

Trump already has no respect for norms or the rule of law. But. He does not need to DO anything but tell his people to release the files and get out of the way.

And besides you know as well as I do that Trumpy's the one who fanned the flames of multiple conspiracies and made multiple campaign promises to release the files in order to get himself elected. Biden promised no such thing. The onus is now on him.

#60 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-17 03:41 PM

The onus is on the anus

Couldn't help it

#61 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-09-17 03:45 PM

And it's not even 69!

Yet.

#62 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-09-17 03:46 PM

All of you fckkers who think Patel is lying, you owe the country an explanation as to why Preznit Shower Daddy didn't make it rain perps when he was in office.

You have no credibility. Raetards, the whole lot of you.

#20 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Who won the 2020 election?

#63 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2025-09-17 03:50 PM

When Patel was on Rogan he said he couldn't speak about the files because they were above his paygrade. Now he says there's nothing credible. Coward. He's got J. Edgar sashaying in his grave,

#64 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-09-17 03:51 PM

20 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

Found the pedo.

Apparently pedos always stick together.

#65 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-17 03:53 PM

#65

Don't stop there. You have two more names in your protocol.

Hitler and Nazi. Go on. You know you want to.

#66 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2025-09-17 03:56 PM

Sticky Pedos is a good name for a punk band

#67 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-09-17 04:00 PM

Nazi Punks

#68 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-09-17 04:01 PM

You're not smart enough to be Hitler, Lfthndturds.

#69 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-17 04:01 PM

69!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#70 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-09-17 04:01 PM

Fuck me

#71 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-09-17 04:01 PM

Sticky Pedos is a good name for a punk band

#67 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-09-17 04:00 PM | Reply

Nazi Punks

#68 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2025-09-17 04:01 PM | Reply

How about "Hitler's Panties"?

#72 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-09-17 04:01 PM

Don't stop there. You have two more names in your protocol.

Hitler and Nazi. Go on. You know you want to.

#66 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

You were the stupid f^*%s who called everyone pedo for about a year and a half when you were srupid enough to believe it was only Dems and LiBruLz in the list.

Now you defend the pedos when it's clear your boy is a central player.

So GFY, pedo.

#73 | Posted by jpw at 2025-09-17 04:09 PM

If you really believe these files contain some "nasty stuff" especially with Trump's name on it.....it IS a fair question to ask why Biden didn't release them
Just pretend to be Zed "Release the damn files"...except go back in time 2 years.

#38 | Posted by eberly

Eb,

During Biden's tenure it was an active investigation. During an active investigation that type of information should not be released because it could undermine future prosecutions. But the investigation was closed in July of this year. Once the investigation is closed, there is no reason not to release the files.

On a more pragmatic note, conservatives love to claim lawfare. If Biden had released files saying that Trump was implicated with Epstein, Trump would have claimed it was a "Democrat Hoax" and all the obedient little conservative sheep would have believed him. Biden releasing the files would have made it LESS likely that justice would have been served. But now that it is Trump refusing to release the files even the obedient little conservative sheep are having a hard time going along with it being a "Democrat Hoax" (even though Trump is STILL claiming that is the case).

#74 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2025-09-17 04:17 PM

I've got questions about why the Biden Administration didn't do a lot of things. But since he's no longer POTUS, those questions are mostly irrelevant (a deflection). There's only one party that can release the information at this point. And they should do so.

#75 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-09-17 04:18 PM

I do believe that Biden would have had the power and right to overrule the DOJ and release the files. And maybe you blame him for not doing that. But, to me, the investigation being active during his tenure gives him enough cover so that I do not believe he was wrong for not releasing them.

OTOH, the investigation is officially closed now, so Trump does not have that cover. AND Trump promised to release the files, so him refusing to do so now definitely makes you wonder.

#76 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2025-09-17 04:25 PM

#76

Yes. If Trump has nothing to hide, why hide it?

#77 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2025-09-17 04:27 PM

In May 2025, Attorney General Pam Bondi informed Donald Trump that his name was mentioned multiple times within the Justice Department's files on Jeffrey Epstein.

www.wsj.com

abcnews.go.com

abcnews.go.com

#78 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-09-17 04:36 PM

"Kash Patel says court orders bar him from releasing the Epstein files. Judges have said otherwise.

But Patel appears to be mischaracterizing those recent court orders, which came amid a hurried effort by the Trump administration to ask federal judges for permission to release grand jury materials stemming from the case of Epstein and co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell.

Judges considering the ask said it appeared to be an effort to confuse the public, noting that the materials consisted of only a few dozen pages of hearsay " much of which became public during court proceedings " and were dwarfed by the FBI's massive trove of records."

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"Rep. Dan Goldman (D-N.Y.) pressed Patel on this point, suggesting that the grand jury orders had no bearing on his ability to release more materials. Patel then cited other sealed orders and protective orders from Epstein and Maxwell's criminal cases that he said barred the release of additional information.

"Why are you not going to a court, like you did for the grand jury testimony?" Goldman wondered. "You are hiding the Epstein files, Mr. Patel. You are part of the cover-up."
excerpts

www.politico.com

#79 | Posted by Corky at 2025-09-17 04:45 PM

If there is no credible evidence, why is Epstein dead?

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