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Tuesday, March 05, 2024

Children are dying of starvation in northern Gaza, the World Health Organization (WHO) chief says.

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... Dr Tedros reported "severe levels of malnutrition, children dying of starvation, serious shortages of fuel, food and medical supplies, hospital buildings destroyed" in northern Gaza, where an estimated 300,000 people are living with little food or clean water.

"The lack of food resulted in the deaths of 10 children," he posted on X, formerly known as Twitter.

The visits were the WHO's first in months "despite our efforts to gain more regular access to the north of Gaza", he wrote.

"The situation at Al-Awda Hospital is particularly appalling, as one of the buildings is destroyed," he added. ...


#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-05 12:05 AM | Reply

Israel accused of opening fire on Gaza civilians waiting for food as Hamas says war death toll over 30,000 people
www.cbsnews.com

... Witnesses and medics said Israeli forces opened fire Thursday on thousands of Palestinians who had gathered in an open area of Gaza City hoping to receive food and other desperately needed humanitarian aid.

Hamas, which controlled the Gaza Strip for almost two decades before it sparked the current war with its Oct. 7 terror attack on Israel, said Israeli forces "targeted a gathering of thousands of citizens while they were waiting to receive food aid." ...



#2 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-05 12:08 AM | Reply

"Mission Accomplished" - Israel

#3 | Posted by qcp at 2024-03-05 09:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

CENSORED is celebrating.

#4 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-03-05 10:15 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

CENSORED is celebrating. #4 | Posted by Sycophant

Yup! Here's a video.

#5 | Posted by censored at 2024-03-05 11:10 AM | Reply

While you cry crocodile tears over Gaza.

Under Joe Biden, Have 85,000 Undocumented Children Gone 'Missing'?
www.newsweek.com

Mission Accomplished" - Joe Biden

#6 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-03-05 11:16 AM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

These kids are in such a consolidated place, almost concentrated. Maybe concentration is a better word. The area is larger than a camp.

#7 | Posted by Brennnn at 2024-03-05 01:20 PM | Reply

"is celebrating." People are dumb and celebration is not the same as starvation.

#8 | Posted by Brennnn at 2024-03-05 01:34 PM | Reply

Pull. The. Plug. On. Israel.

#9 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-03-06 05:49 AM | Reply

I wonder,

Were they starving before Hamas's attack on innocent festival kids? Was it before or during the rapes of peace festival women?

#10 | Posted by boaz at 2024-03-06 08:37 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

So all of those in Gaza, even the children, the babies, those being born and dying from malnutrition - are all guilty and deserve death for the actions of the Hamas terrorists?

#11 | Posted by YAV at 2024-03-06 08:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#11,

That's up to Hamas.

Evidently, they dont care about the people.

#12 | Posted by boaz at 2024-03-06 08:55 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#5 | POSTED BY CENSORED
#12 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Did you both just admit Israel and Hamas are equally terrible?

#13 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-03-06 10:28 AM | Reply

While you cry crocodile tears over Gaza.
Under Joe Biden, Have 85,000 Undocumented Children Gone 'Missing'?
www.newsweek.com
Mission Accomplished" - Joe Biden

#6 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Idiot.

Your own article is fact checking the 85,000 missing kids and saying it's BS.

How stupid are you?

#14 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-03-06 10:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Palestinians: "Well, well, well ... if it isn't the consequences of my own actions."

#15 | Posted by censored at 2024-03-06 11:57 AM | Reply

You really have zero shame.

I always wondered how the so called normal Germans approved of the actions of the Nazis.

You've been a wonderful example.

#16 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-06 12:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Palestinians: "Well, well, well ... if it isn't the consequences of my own actions."

#15 | POSTED BY CENSORED A

ummm are you saying that Hamas has 2 year olds on their terrorism planning committee?

#17 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-03-06 12:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Palestinians: "Well, well, well ... if it isn't the consequences of my own actions."

^
Which actions by Palestinians are you referring to here.
Is it handing out sweets to children again?

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-03-06 12:15 PM | Reply

ummm are you saying that Hamas has 2 year olds on their terrorism planning committee? #17 | Posted by truthhurts

Yeah, exactly what I'm saying.

I wonder if the Palestinian approval rating for the October 7th attack targeting Jewish civilians and murdering about 1,000 of them in cold blood has budged from 72%.

Must be nice to imagine living in a no-consequence zone, where they get to murder and rape whomever they want and hide behind their own civvies. And cry, cause that's part of the model (see #5).

#19 | Posted by censored at 2024-03-06 12:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Posted by censored

LOL!

Joe South sez: Walk a mile in their shoes!

#20 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-03-06 12:41 PM | Reply

The dire consequences of their dastardly actions have been repaid now by at least twenty fold.

It's way past time to call off the dogs, as Dark Brandon has implored them to do.

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2024-03-06 12:44 PM | Reply

The dire consequences of their dastardly actions have been repaid now by at least twenty fold.
Sure, if you think that vengeance was the point. But not so much, if the purpose was to ensure that Hamas can't go for a repeat performance two years for now.

It's way past time to call off the dogs, as Dark Brandon has implored them to do. #21 | Posted by Corky
Has Hamas admitted defeat and sworn of acts off violence? No? I didn't think so.

Up to Israel to decide, since it's the safety of their people that's in question.

"We are free to choose our actions. But we are not free to choose the consequences of these actions." -Stephen Covey.

#22 | Posted by censored at 2024-03-06 12:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#21 | Posted by Corky

Nope.

Those damn Palestinians have had over 80yrs to assimilate.

Time's up!

Eradication now!

---Censored

#23 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-03-06 12:58 PM | Reply

Almost three in four Palestinians believe the Oct. 7 attack by Hamas on Israel was correct,

I can see it now.

It's October 8th.

Israeli journalists are flooding Gaza asking Palestinians about their opinion on the October 7th attack.

The children don't seem to know what they're being asked. But those smiles on their faces tell the Israelis more than words ever could.

The horror!

Let's exterminate all Palestinians.

We must have a pure Israel.

Jesus needs it so he can start his rapture.

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-06 01:04 PM | Reply

Palestinians: "Well, well, well ... if it isn't the consequences of my own actions."
#15 | POSTED BY CENSORED A
ummm are you saying that Hamas has 2 year olds on their terrorism planning committee?

#17 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

You know he'll never give you a real answer.

He thinks all Palestine is Hamas.
He enjoys hearing about Palestinian kids being killed.
He ignores anything Israel has done to Palestine.

And as soon as he gets that ankle monitor off, he'll be out protesting against Palestine! ...but not within 300 yards of a school...

#25 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-03-06 01:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

[...]Eradication now! [...] #23 | Posted by Angrydad

Not my words.

Maybe you got me mixed up with the Palestinians who would like to see Israel eliminated. As opposed to Israel, where 20% of its citizens are Muslim.

#26 | Posted by censored at 2024-03-06 01:26 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The leadership, and their funding, of Hamas in Qutar could be taken out over the weekend if that was the goal.

This is turning into genocide. Hamas has been set back for a decade already.

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2024-03-06 01:28 PM | Reply

Not my words.

Words aren't necessary.

The actions of isreal are sufficient.

#28 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-06 01:30 PM | Reply

I wonder if the Palestinian approval rating for the October 7th attack targeting Jewish civilians and murdering about 1,000 of them in cold blood has budged from 72%.
#19 | POSTED BY CENSORED

Thank you for clarifying that you do in fact support killing 30,000 Palestinian civilians because you don't like how 21,600 of them think.

Not much else to talk about, but that won't stop you from talking about it.

#29 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-03-06 01:35 PM | Reply

"Maybe you got me mixed up with the Palestinians who would like to see Israel eliminated."

No, that's not it.

We fully understand you are with the Jews who wanted Yitzhak Rabin eliminated.

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-03-06 01:37 PM | Reply

If only these starving kids could just get to the US Southern border.

#31 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-03-06 01:41 PM | Reply

I have an idea on how this can be settled once and for all.

They should fight for it.

#32 | Posted by censored at 2024-03-06 01:42 PM | Reply

"once and for all"

The preferred terminology is Final Solution.

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-03-06 01:56 PM | Reply

#31

Your ilk would wrap them in razor wire and drown them in the Rio Grande.

#34 | Posted by Corky at 2024-03-06 05:07 PM | Reply

Collective Punishment is a War Crime... Targeting civilians is a war crime...The use of starvation and untreated medical issues as weapons against civilians is a War Crime... Bombing Hospitals is a war crime... Israel has killed more civilians in Gaza in 5 months than Russia has killed in the entire Ukraine war.Gaza is twice the size of the District of Columbia. Israel is the size of New Jersey. The Frontline in Ukraine is more than 600 miles long. Ukraine is bigger than Texas.

Censored was So Upset about Ukrainians being killed by Russians, hospitals being bombed. War crimes being committed...

But when it's Israel,commiting war crimes of much greater severity against Palestinians...He's all in for the War Criminals!

The Palestinians can't BE civilians as far as he's concerned.

So if Hamas behaves in similar fashion against Israelis, would that be justified?

If Hamas or some other actor were to get sufficient military means to bomb and massacre Israeli civilians would that be Okay? Would Collective Punishment of Israeli's be justified?

Censored is a Bigot and Genocidaire. He's the Lowest and most Hypocritical person on this Forum. The only person here I genuinely feel Bottomless Contempt and Utter Loathing for.

Just Die in your own Vomit already.

#35 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-03-06 06:05 PM | Reply

Come on the Effete, don't be so hard on Censored, he's simply a typical establishment liberal who supports Israel so much that he's willing to cede this autumn's presidential election to Trump so that Israel can keep murdering Palestinian women and children.

Remember, he said he'll laugh when it all happens!

#JillStein2024!

#36 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2024-03-06 07:16 PM | Reply

Censored is the most convincing of the Astro Turf Brigade.

Censored is the Osama bin Laden to EffetePoser's Mohammad Atta.

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-03-06 07:19 PM | Reply

Your ilk would wrap them in razor wire and drown them in the Rio Grande.
#34 | POSTED BY CORKY AT

And your ilk would shoot them directly in the face.

Twice.

Because "isRAEl liek iZzzzZz teh dEzzzZzzervzzZzzz teh RIGHT is teh toOo00000 dEAFINd ItzzzZzzzZzzelf!!!!!!!!!eleven!!!!!"

#38 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 07:28 PM | Reply

I'm Tactical Evil, He's Strategic Evil.

I can live with that....

Can He?

#39 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-03-06 07:31 PM | Reply

Donald Trump is slightly to the left of every liberal poster of the DR on this issue.

#40 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 07:34 PM | Reply

Donald Trump would have sent American Troops to assist the Israelis.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot.

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-06 07:36 PM | Reply

The liberals on the DR want every Palestinian dead.

Donald Trump thinks this is terrible and that it all could have been avoided if only he was in charge.

He's an absolute peacenik compared to you,,,,,

"People"

#42 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 07:37 PM | Reply

Crushed it in only 5 minutes. You go, Mehdi:

Debunking Top 7 Israeli Lies About Gaza

#43 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2024-03-06 07:38 PM | Reply

Mohammed Atta,wasn't afraid to Die. Or kill. He was a Zealot. Not a Coward

Osama bin Laden hid behind a woman to try to save his own life...

The comparison is complimentary to ME.

#44 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-03-06 07:39 PM | Reply

The liberals on the DR want every Palestinian dead.

Are you speaking for yourself?

Donald Trump thinks this is terrible

Oh yea. Absolutely.

"Former President Donald Trump declared Tuesday that Israel must "finish the problem" in its war against Hamas ... "

www.nbcnews.com

#45 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-06 07:42 PM | Reply

Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot.

#41 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Yeah?

How many times since early October have you read the ---- about how Hamas simply can't be reasoned with from a liberal here?

Ole Dementia Don wants to reason with them.

The liberals here cheer when the Israelis bomb hospitals.

#46 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 07:42 PM | Reply

#45 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

From the article you, yourself, posted:

"That should never have happened. Likewise, Russia would never have attacked Ukraine," he said.

Now.

How many times have you read on this site from one of the liberals who lives on it that no one can reason with Palestinians?

I can already tell that honesty isn't your thing.

Not real sure why I'm asking...

#47 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 07:45 PM | Reply

Here's a popular one amongst the liberals here:

"Other Arab states won't even take them because they're sssssooooooooo violent...."

Not so violent that Donny Dollhands won't negotiate with them though.

Or at least try to.

The liberals here just want them all dead.

#48 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 07:48 PM | Reply

@#35 ... He's the Lowest and most Hypocritical person on this Forum. ...

Projecting? Yet again??

#49 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 07:48 PM | Reply

Crushed it in only 5 minutes. You go, Mehdi:
Debunking Top 7 Israeli Lies About Gaza
#43 | POSTED BY PUMPKINHEAD

Thanks for sharing these inconvenient truths.

I don't believe many will watch and I doubt those who blindly support Israel will change their opinions based on these facts.

#50 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-06 07:49 PM | Reply

@#47 ... How many times have you read on this site from one of the liberals who lives on it that no one can reason with Palestinians? ...

I dunno. How many times? You apparently seem to have kept count.

And, fwiw, does your appellation of "Palestinians" include or exclude Hamas?



#51 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 07:52 PM | Reply

How many times since early October have you read the ---- about how Hamas simply can't be reasoned with from a liberal here?

From who? I haven't seen you on most of the threads.

It's always a mixed bag. But I'd say the majority of liberal posters on the DR are opposed to the genocide Israel is carrying out.

Ole Dementia Don wants to reason with them.

Thankfully, "Ole Dementia Don" isn't our president.

So he can say whatever he wants to.

The liberals here cheer when the Israelis bomb hospitals.
#46 | POSTED BY TRES_FLECHAS

Again. You're wrong.

There are some posters on the DR who are adamant supporters of Israel and have turned a blind eye to the genocide.

But the majority of us do not support the actions of Israel.

#52 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-06 07:56 PM | Reply

From who? I haven't seen you on most of the threads.

#52 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT

Yeah.

I don't live on my phone.

I'm sorry that you do.

---- near every liberal on this site wants every Palestinian dead.

And you know it.

#53 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 08:00 PM | Reply

From the article you, yourself, posted:
"That should never have happened. Likewise, Russia would never have attacked Ukraine," he said.

Yea. Donald Trump likes to make up lies and he talks a big game.

Looks like he's caught you in his net.

You'd be delighted with the world under Trump.

Russia would have seized the Ukraine and Israel would have exterminated all of the Palestinians with American soldiers standing side by side with the IDF.


How many times have you read on this site from one of the liberals who lives on it that no one can reason with Palestinians?

I've read it more from the DR Trumpers.

Many have openly expressed their desires to see all of Gaza turned into glass.

I can already tell that honesty isn't your thing.

Projection.

Not real sure why I'm asking...
#47 | POSTED BY TRES_FLECHAS

Not really sure why you're posting either.

You're clearly a moron.

#54 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-06 08:03 PM | Reply

I don't live on my phone.
#53 | POSTED BY TRES_FLECHAS

You don't know what the fkkk you're posting about either.

Guess you woke up from your stupor and decided to share your stupidity.

What a dumb fkkking moron you are.

#55 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-06 08:04 PM | Reply

POSTED BY TRES_FLECHAS

This idiot is really stupid.

What a waste of time.

#56 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-06 08:06 PM | Reply

Not really sure why you're posting either.

#54 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK A

I'd say that I'm sorry you got a wiff of your ---- and realized it stinks when you realized that Donald ------- Trump is to the left of you, or at least your retarded brethren, but I'm not.

You'll all reap what you've sewn.

#57 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 08:06 PM | Reply

What a waste of time.

#56 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

But here you are,,,,

Still "wasting your time."

How many posts later?

A hit dog will definitely holler.

#58 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 08:08 PM | Reply

---- near every liberal on this site wants every Palestinian dead.
And you know it.
#53 | POSTED BY TRES_FLECHAS

You're willfully ignorant. And I'm not even a Leftist.

Just shut the ---- up already, dip ----.

#59 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-03-06 08:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#57 #58

What a fnkcin' troll. Not worth it.

Flushed.

#60 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-03-06 08:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Not worth it.

#60 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11

But, again,,,, here we are.

Suck on it.

And don't be mad when I pull to in and make you swallow.

I'll kiss you afterwards, babe.

#61 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 08:29 PM | Reply

@#59 ... You're willfully ignorant ...

So... I'm not the only one here who has noticed that apparent aspect.

#62 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 08:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#60 ... What a fnkcin' troll. Not worth it. ...

Yup.

The lack of any attempt of a discussion, coupled with the insults hurled for the slightest disagreement, convinced me that there is little to nothing to learn by trying to have a discussion with that alias.

#63 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 08:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

slightest disagreement,

#63 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT

The "slightest disagreement", in this instance, means I don't think every Palestinian should be slaughtered and this liberal does.

#64 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 08:37 PM | Reply

Many have openly expressed their desires to see all of Gaza turned into glass.
- ClownSlut

Citation necessary.

#65 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-03-06 08:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

insults hurled

#63 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT 20

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You have been cheerleading Genocide Joe's bloodthirsty ass on since early October.

I'm "not nice", in your oh so very humble
opinion, though???

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#66 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 08:44 PM | Reply

"slightest disagreement", in this instance, means I don't think every Palestinian should be slaughtered and this liberal does.

#64 | POSTED BY TRES_FECEs

You don't subscribe to the unified political dogma, you're a splitter.

Most liberals here are Lumpers.

#67 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-03-06 08:45 PM | Reply

---- near every liberal on this site wants every Palestinian dead.

And you know it.

#53 | POSTED BY TRES_FLECHAS AT 2024-03-06 08:00 PM | FLAG:

I don't know any that have said anything like that. I certainly don't feel that way. I haven't seen any on this thread say anything like that, either. You are trolling or a complete moron, or more likely, both.

#68 | Posted by YAV at 2024-03-06 08:45 PM | Reply

Citation necessary.

#65 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

You've only, personallyposted it here a few hundred times in the last few months.

I'll bet your god king Trunk will set your retarded ass straight, though.

#69 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 08:46 PM | Reply

Equal opportunity, though, so there is that.

#70 | Posted by YAV at 2024-03-06 08:47 PM | Reply

@#66

Do try harder to present your opinions.

Valid as they may or may not be, your current presentation of those opinions lacks a willingness to discuss. Indeed, it seems to actively want to avoid discussion. Why?

Yer up.

#71 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 08:47 PM | Reply

on this thread say anything like that, either.

#68 | POSTED BY YAV

Oh....

So they stopped today?

And that makes me wrong?

Jesus Harold Christ.....

---- off, ------.

#72 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 08:47 PM | Reply

POSTED BY 1LUMPER2

You're a bigger waste of time than he is.

But it is fun watching you get kicked around.

#73 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-06 08:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#68 ... I don't know any that have said anything like that. I certainly don't feel that way. I haven't seen any on this thread say anything like that, either. You are trolling or a complete moron, or more likely, both. ...

Yeah.

At this point I am wondering why that alias seems to want to destroy any discussion.

What does it seem to be afraid of?

#74 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 08:50 PM | Reply

I don't know any that have said anything like that. I certainly don't feel that way. I haven't seen any on this thread say anything like that, either. You are trolling or a complete moron, or more likely, both.
#68 | POSTED BY YAV

Yea. He's throwing around completely baseless accusations. If anything, the majority of liberal posters on the DR are opposed to the actions of Israel.

It's odd because in the past I found myself agreeing with that poster.

But to simply show up and accuse us all of nonsense and then make claims about how much better Trump would have handled the past 4 years is insane.

#75 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-06 08:54 PM | Reply

-He's throwing around completely baseless accusations.

LOL

Annoying, right?

#76 | Posted by eberly at 2024-03-06 08:59 PM | Reply

Anyone who thinks Trump, who sent Jared to make "peace" between Israel and Palestine, is going to be better on Gaza than Biden is, is either lying or stupid or both:

Trump breaks silence on Israel's military campaign in Gaza: 'Finish the problem'

The former president has largely avoided weighing in on Gaza as President Joe Biden has faced criticism from within the Democratic coalition over his support for Israel.

Former President Donald Trump declared Tuesday that Israel must "finish the problem" in its war against Hamas, his most definitive position on the conflict since the terror group killed 1,200 Israelis and took more than 200 hostages on Oct. 7.

www.nbcnews.com

#77 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-03-06 09:01 PM | Reply

You don't subscribe to the unified political dogma, you're a splitter.
Most liberals here are Lumpers.
#67 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT

Anyone remember what 1Lumper2's schtick was before he learned the term "lumper"?

#78 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-03-06 09:03 PM | Reply

@#76 ... Annoying, right? ...

No, not annoying.

The aspect I have raised as a concern is the apparent lack of an ability of that alias to engage in a discussion without sinking to the hurling of insults.

I have tried to have discussions with it and, in return, I received little more than insults.

imho, the alias is a degrading aspect of this message board. The alias acts like a troll. Nothing more, nothing less.





#79 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 09:08 PM | Reply

I wonder why Joe Brandon won't go out in public right now...

Is he -------- his pants like the rrrrriiiiiiggggghhhhttttttt says, or is he afraid of the left heckling his ass on how much he loves watching babies and grandmas get butchered?

Now that Dementia Don has said they all need to die you can count on Joe Brandon going and murdering a few babies with his bare hands.

Just look at his border policy.

He simply has to appease the republicans. White guys in diners in Ohio will probably vote for him if he does.

#80 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 09:08 PM | Reply

how much better Trump would have handled the past 4 years is insane.

#75 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Yeah,,,, speaking of baseless.

#81 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 09:12 PM | Reply

Trump will sanction the complete destruction of the Palestinians.

Root and Branch.

Trump will give the Israeli's ANYTHING THEY NEED to kill them all.

I'm still voting for Biden in November.

I hate his policies toward Israel.

On This issue Trump is Far WORSE.

Lesser Evil is still Lesser.

I hate the System that makes these kind of Choices Unavoidable.

But it's clear to me, that Biden is more stable and Humane than Trump, and not a would be Dictator.

#82 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-03-06 09:16 PM | Reply

-I have tried to have discussions with it and, in return, I received little more than insults.

And that's not annoying?

#83 | Posted by eberly at 2024-03-06 09:17 PM | Reply

#83s wife's boyfriend must be in town, she let him have his phone.

#84 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 09:18 PM | Reply

Somebody's gotta shoot the pictures.

#85 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 09:19 PM | Reply

Trump will sanction the complete destruction of the Palestinians.

#82 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER AT

Why,,,, that's been US policy for roughly the last 100 years.

#86 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 09:21 PM | Reply

Trump is A Rabid Animal. He Needs to be put down for the good of everyone.

His followers are like Hitler's SA... Too stupid to know they will be the first to die when Trump consolidates his position and removes judicial constraints on executive power.

Industry -------- like Elon and Jeff will be the big Winners.

They'll be like Krupp Steel and AG Farben in the New Order.

#87 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-03-06 09:29 PM | Reply

Ralph Nader believes that the number of deaths reported by BOTH Hamas and Israel is too low:

Stop the Worsening UNDERCOUNT of Palestinian Casualties in Gaza

#88 | Posted by pumpkinhead at 2024-03-06 09:29 PM | Reply

Trump is directly beside or slightly to the left of just about every who posts here on this issue.

#87 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER AT

Fixed.

#89 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 09:37 PM | Reply

Annoying, right?
#76 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Look who showed up.

Couldn't resist being a victim?

Yes. Yes. I get your point.

Here's all my sympathies.

Hope you recover.

#90 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-06 09:37 PM | Reply

speaking of baseless.
#81 | POSTED BY TRES_FLECHAS

Don't worry.

As soon as Donald Trump wins the election he'll kill all those Palestinians you hate so much.

#91 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-06 09:41 PM | Reply

Curious that the EffetePoser alias has chimed in on this thread.


:)

#92 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 09:43 PM | Reply

The liberals who post here would be in quite the spot if he did that, wouldn't they, #91?

I'd see no reason why they wouldn't openly support a 3rd Trunk term if he did.

They already wish Joe Brandon was strong enough to implement his border policy.

Alas, Joe Brandon has publicly stated that only Donalt Trunk is strong enough to do that.

#93 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 09:46 PM | Reply

The liberals who post here would be in quite the spot if he did that, wouldn't they, #91?

Nah. Most of us have realized who Biden and Trump are.

But you?

You seem to be enamored by Israel.

#94 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-06 09:49 PM | Reply

Nah. Most of us have realized that Biden and Trump both love slaughtering Palestinian grandmothers.

We just prefer the way Biden has been doing it since October.

Either will do, but why change horses in the middle of the stream??

#94 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

Fixed.

#95 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 09:59 PM | Reply

Israel is raining white phosphorus on Lebanese villages right now.

His "close ally" has crippled the Robinette. The Zionist project is too late. :]

#96 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-03-06 10:01 PM | Reply

-Yes. Yes. I get your point.

Right ... .

#97 | Posted by eberly at 2024-03-06 10:03 PM | Reply

Israel is raining white phosphorus on Lebanese villages right now.

#96 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT

Which nation keeps stopping the UN from holding Israel accountable for such things?

Who is currently running the nation who keeps stopping the UN from holding Israel accountable for such things?

#98 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 10:04 PM | Reply

Also, #96.

Who is in charge of the nation that refuses to stop providing weapons, such as white phosphorus, to the Israelis?

#99 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 10:07 PM | Reply

@#98 ... Which nation keeps stopping the UN from holding Israel accountable for such things? ...

For starters, thank-you for changing your approach towards discussion and away from insults.


The US blocked that UN resolution because it interfered with the side diplomacy efforts being done to help resolve the war.

US signals it will block proposed Gaza ceasefire resolution at UN (February 18, 2024)
www.aljazeera.com

... The envoy said the resolution could "run counter" to the goals that Washington says can be achieved through diplomacy in talks between Israel and Hamas that Qatar and Egypt are also mediating. ...

#100 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 10:12 PM | Reply

@#99 ... Who is in charge of the nation that refuses to stop providing weapons ...

Biden admin carefully ramps up criticism of Israel over the Gaza war but stops short of cutting off military aid
www.nbcnews.com

... The White House has asked the Pentagon for more options to get additional humanitarian aid to Gaza's hungry civilians by air, land and sea.

President Joe Biden is trying to ramp up political pressure on Israel's government to allow in more humanitarian aid and rein in its offensive in the Gaza Strip but has stopped short of cutting off weapons deliveries to America's main ally in the Middle East, current and former officials say.

Reluctant to enter into a full-blown confrontation with Israel, the Biden administration instead has airdropped humanitarian aid for Palestinian civilians and held talks in Washington with a political rival of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Benny Gantz. It has also stepped up public criticism of Israel's tactics in Gaza " though, as NBC News has reported, apparently not as much as Vice President Kamala Harris would like.

Dismayed at the plight of Palestinian civilians and with no letup in the Israeli campaign, the White House National Security Council asked the Pentagon in recent weeks for possible options to get more aid into Gaza by air, land and sea, two administration officials told NBC News.

Based on the Pentagon's advice, the president opted for airdrops of aid, and U.S. aircraft over the weekend began dropping pallets of food and other supplies on parachutes just off Gaza's coast. On Tuesday, three U.S. Air Force planes dropped 60 bundles with 36,000 meals, accompanied by four Royal Jordanian Air Force planes that dropped additional supplies, a U.S. official said, and more deliveries are expected. ...


#101 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 10:15 PM | Reply

The US blocked that UN resolution because it interfered with the side diplomacy efforts being done to help resolve the war.

#100 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Oh....

So they refused to stop the Israelis from murdering babies and grandmas because they wanted to stop the Israelis from murdering babies and grandmas?

Yeah....

#102 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 10:15 PM | Reply

the war.

#100 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

I wonder how ------ in the head you'd have to be to call what we've all been looking at since early October a "war"....

#103 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 10:19 PM | Reply

#104 | Posted by censored at 2024-03-06 10:19 PM | Reply

Busy rubbing one out to IDF snuff tik Tok, #104?

#105 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 10:22 PM | Reply

@#103 ... I wonder how ------ in the head you'd have to be to call what we've all been looking at since early October a "war".... ...

... and back to the insults.

Why am I not surprised.

#106 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 10:24 PM | Reply

@#102 ... So they refused to stop the Israelis from murdering babies and grandmas because they wanted to stop the Israelis from murdering babies and grandmas? ...

As I have said multiple times before.

Citing individual incidents does no good in the conflicts in the Middle East.

The problem the Middle East faces goes back centuries. Such a long term problem will not be resolved by trying to rationalize any specific incident.

Egypt took the right approach with Israel. They talked and came to an agreement.

Israel and Saudi Arabia were on a similar path towards an agreement (fostered by the US).

But Iran apparently was most concerned about those discussions. Fearful of them.

So then the Iran-sponsored Hamas launched an attack upon Israel.

Take a step back, what is the real problem in the Middle East that needs to be resolved?

Put your insults aside ...


#107 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 10:32 PM | Reply

AIPAC has Joe a tremblin'.

He's too scared of the Israel Lobby.

They might call him "Anti-Semitic or pay Trump's bills and fund his campaign or something.

It's just Too Risky to Say NO to Israel.


#108 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-03-06 10:32 PM | Reply

For any idiot who thinks this is a "war",,,,

Ask yourself if the Ukranians laid down their weapons and surrendered today what how would they be treated by the Russians?

They'd be welcomed in with open arms.

The IDF slaughters their own civilians who are waving white flags if they look a little bit too tan for their liking...

#109 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 10:33 PM | Reply

And, rest assured, the good ole US of A will always give em the bullets they use to do it right back.

Joe Brandon is a Zionist.

You don't even have to ask him.

He'll just tell you.

#110 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 10:39 PM | Reply

I saw one Israeli captive, filmed by Hamas, with copious discharge staining her jeans, that forcibly suggested sexual abuse.

Rape is common in war. And in Comanche raids, which Hamas closely imitated.

#24 | POSTED BY ZED

This moron investigated a rape and found enough evidence to convict someone of it.

The New York Times sent someone to the Israel with a limitless budget and they couldn't find any evidence of it.

Just think of the money they could have saved if only they'd create an account here.....

#111 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 10:45 PM | Reply

He found all of the evidence he needs from a photograph...

#112 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 10:49 PM | Reply

@#109 ... Ask yourself if the Ukranians laid down their weapons and surrendered today what how would they be treated by the Russians? ...

Interesting that you bring that into this discussion.

My first question, did Ukraine invade Russia as Hamas invaded Israel?

What say ye?

#113 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 10:53 PM | Reply

Trump moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem. Trump recognized the annexation of the Golan heights. Trump gave aid and succor to the settlers.

At least Biden Sanctions a few really ------ settlers.

He's too scared to do anything else.

Trump is the real Zionist... Opportunistic, Calculating, Quick to force unjust Realities on helpless people.

Israel and Trump working together will defy International Law and Basic human decency.

More than Biden in his Tepid fears of being sidelined and defined by others.

Israel under Bibi with Trump feeding the slaughter would be a never forgotten Stain on US credibility.

Biden is almost as bad. He just whines a little more than Trump would.

But make no mistake...Trump would finish it if the Israeli's themselves had the stomach for it.

He would be an active and eager participant in Genocide.

Not a whiny excuse maker enabling the same result.

#114 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-03-06 10:55 PM | Reply

@#11 ... The New York Times sent someone to the Israel with a limitless budget ...

Limitless? Do get a grip.

If you want to make unsubstantiated wild assertions, do try, at a minimum, to make them believable.

(and I do note you seem to be slipping back into the insult mode of replying. Again.)



#115 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 10:56 PM | Reply

why change horses in the middle of the stream??

Because one is worse than the other.

This event isn't the only thing that matters.

Trump has shown numerous times he doesn't value human life, or anything other than himself.

Try to step outside of your hyperventilating bubble of hyperbole and think about it.

#116 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-06 10:57 PM | Reply

Hamas invaded Israel?

#113 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER AT

What country does Hamas operate out of?

#117 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 10:57 PM | Reply

@#114

Are Effeteposer and tres_flechas aliases the same troll farm?


Curious. ...

#118 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 10:58 PM | Reply

I mean, lay aided the fact that this is a ridiculous attempt to change the subject,,,

What country does Hamas operate out of?

#119 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 10:59 PM | Reply

Curious. ...
#118 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHT

Yeah.

Sure.

It's a troll farm.

He sits next to me.

We give each other handies all the time.

Now.

Which country does Hamas operate out of?

#120 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 11:01 PM | Reply

Hamas invaded Israel?

#113 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

What do you think happened Oct7th?

Seriously, there is no way in objective reality you were a software manager.

#121 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-03-06 11:04 PM | Reply

From which country did Hamas launch this invasion of Israel from?

One of the other trolls who posts here who works at the same troll farm as the rest of us do told me to ask that before he went down on me.

#122 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 11:04 PM | Reply

Is the alias Lamplighter really a software engineering manager?

Curious. ... doesn't seem possible.

#123 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-03-06 11:05 PM | Reply

I wish clownshack was still here to let us all know what a firm grip on this situation every liberal who posts here has and how ------- ignorant I am about it all.

If only.....

#124 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 11:10 PM | Reply

@#121 ... What do you think happened Oct7th?

Seriously, there is no way in objective reality you were a software manager. ...

Wow, can you say, "trolling?"

I knew you could.

#125 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 11:12 PM | Reply

@#122 ... From which country did Hamas launch this invasion of Israel from? ..

You don't know?

#126 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 11:14 PM | Reply

Wow, can you say, "trolling?"
I knew you could.

#125 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Yes.

Because the vicious terrorists from Hamas launched their invasion of Israel from Hamasistan.

And the US has only given the defenseless Israelis delicious taffy to respond to thelis vicious attack on their own soil...

#127 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 11:16 PM | Reply

Dude,if you think Trump is more rational and competent than Biden on this or any issue, you are STUPID.

Trump is going to get everyone killed if he wins.

He doesn't care about anything but his own narrow interests,he has no sense of Humility... or even humor that isn't vindictive.

And Trump is above all Stupid. That's why the stupid love him.

He gives them permission to be vicious and idiotic at the same time.

Good Times.

#128 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-03-06 11:18 PM | Reply

You don't know?

#126 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTE
Nope.

Where did they invade Israel from?

#129 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 11:18 PM | Reply

Trump is going to get everyone killed if he wins.

#128 | POSTED BY EFFETEPOSER

And we will deserve every bit of it.

#130 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 11:19 PM | Reply

@#129 ... Where did they invade Israel from? ...

Good to see your alias admit it hasn't a clue behind its assertions.

#131 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 11:23 PM | Reply

Right, #131

I'd like for you to explain it to me.

From which country did Hamas invade Israel from?

#132 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 11:25 PM | Reply

@#128 ... Dude,if you think Trump is more rational and competent than Biden on this or any issue, you are STUPID. ...

Following Pres Putin's current comments about Pres Biden. Almost in lock-step.

Hmmmm...

#133 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 11:25 PM | Reply

#133 wonders why no one wants to have a conversation with her.

#134 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 11:27 PM | Reply

@#132 ... From which country did Hamas invade Israel from? ...

Do the Hamas have a country?

That would be my first question.

But I suspect you may be getting towards whether or not Palestinians should have a Country.

My view, currently, is yes.


The elusive Two-State solution.


But that is an aside here.

Does it justify what Hamas has done?

And has Israel's response only strengthened the resolve of the Hamas?

As I have said many times before, this war will not be resolved with arms.

For example, I ask again, why was Iran, apparently, so aghast of Israel and Saudi Arabia talking about peace that Iran may have prompted Hamas to do the October 7 attack?


#135 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 11:34 PM | Reply

Do the Hamas have a country?

That would be my first question.
~ Gaslighter

Did the Nazis have a country?

#136 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-03-06 11:39 PM | Reply

#135 | POSTED

So,,,,,,

If the Ukranians, citizens of another country, laid down their arms tomorrow what would happen to them?

They would be welcomed with open arms.

If Israeli citizens, Jewish ones even, hostages no less, with a little too much melanin tried to surrender themselves the IDF would spray them with bullets.

And then Joe Brandon would smooth it over with the UN.

To stop it from happening, of course.

#137 | Posted by tres_flechas at 2024-03-06 11:39 PM | Reply

As I have said many times before, this war will not be resolved with arms.

After 60yrs of talk.

It will only be solved with arms. Only one of the two will survive.

The two state solution is fantasyland, when both want the destruction of the other.

#138 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-03-06 11:41 PM | Reply


For example, I ask again, why was Iran, apparently, so aghast of Israel and Saudi Arabia talking about peace that Iran may have prompted Hamas to do the October 7 attack?

What you know about Sunni vs Shia relations?

#139 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-03-06 11:43 PM | Reply

This pattern of IDF bombing food convoys and the media lies about mass rape and beheaded babies should alert you that something is amiss with sending $14 billion and 2000 lb depopulation weapons.

Lebanon towns are now being depopulated, too.

Lamplighter, what Biden supports appears to be evolving from a genocide into another invasion.

#140 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-03-06 11:45 PM | Reply

Also, IDF are using robots, not just AI to target civilians.

#141 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-03-06 11:47 PM | Reply

Hamas has agency.

They didn't need Iran to approve or even know about this before they did it.

That is just conspiracy type nonsense.

Hamas had ample reason to want to stop other Muslim states from normalizing relations with Israel.

The Palestinians were becoming an invisible problem. They were slowly being strangled in the dark.

Normalizing relations would have increased their isolation and the apathy of the world.

This was Hamas going Big. Making the world see in Real Time the True Face of Israel.

Implacable in the Methodical administration of Oppression and Death to those they wanted to Disappear.

Iran was perhaps involved but this was Hamas doing things for their own reasons.

Just like the Houthis.

#142 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-03-06 11:48 PM | Reply

Woof, the Russian troll farm seems to be out in full force tonight.

:)

#143 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 11:54 PM | Reply

@#142 ... Hamas has agency.

They didn't need Iran to approve or even know about this before they did it....

I never said they "needed" Iran to approve what they did.


Do try harder.


#144 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-06 11:55 PM | Reply

@#140 ... the media lies about mass rape and beheaded babies should alert you that something is amiss ...

Yeah, as soon as I see the "blame the media" stuff, I know something is amiss.

A U.N. report finds 'reasonable grounds to believe' attacks in Israel included rapes
www.npr.org

... A report by the United Nations has found "reasonable grounds to believe" that the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attacks on Israel included sexual violence " including rape and gang rape " and that some Israeli hostages experienced such violence while in captivity in Gaza.

The long-awaited report is not a full-fledged U.N. investigation, according to its author, the U.N. special representative for sexual violence in conflict. Israel has blocked such an investigation by the U.N.'s human rights office over what the country's leaders allege is anti-Israel bias.

Still, it represents the most extensive report yet on the subject of sexual violence on Oct. 7 conducted by an independent body based outside of Israel. ...


#145 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-07 12:02 AM | Reply

"although circumstantial" and "unable to interview" provides nothing.

Dig deeper, imho.

#146 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2024-03-07 12:13 AM | Reply

Hamas resisted being oppressed. By an occupying power.

The one legal exception to aggressive war.

Israel has no right to defend itself from people they are actively persecuting and committing ongoing thefts from. Harming People they treat as less than human on a daily basis for decades. Just because it's become routine doesn't make it less Oppressive and Illegal.

Israel is the main driver of this. They could have stopped Usurping land and water. They could have defined their borders. They could give all citizens equal rights regardless of religion or ethnicity.

They chose to be Oppressors. They got PAID to be such.

This isn't over even if the Palestinians are purged from Gaza and the West Bank.

Israel Bears the Mark of Cain.

It doesn't Wash Off, even in an Ocean of Blood.

#147 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-03-07 12:17 AM | Reply

@#147 ... Hamas resisted being oppressed. By an occupying power. ...

If your alias had said Palestinians, instead of Hamas I'd agree.

To me, Hamas does not represent Palestinians, it represents and does the bidding of Iran.


But, may I ask that your troll farm just use one alias here?


I mean, really.

It is too obvious...


#148 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-07 12:21 AM | Reply

@#146 ... Dig deeper, imho. ...

I'll ask that of your comments.

#149 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-07 12:22 AM | Reply

You're so Dumb,...it's truly breathtaking.

Almost unbelievable, but there it is.

Hamas was elected by Palestinians. They are representing them.

Democracy can messy. Resisting an illegal occupation is not a crime.

Being a Genocidal Oppressor is.

If the Jews in Europe had resisted the Nazis,up to and including actual massacre....

Would they be Heroes... Or Monsters?

That's the Conundrum.

#150 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-03-07 12:28 AM | Reply

@#150 ... You're so Dumb,...it's truly breathtaking. ...

Projecting? Yet again?

As I have said so many times before, the problem in the Middle East is not so simple.

It is complex.

Palestinian Politics Timeline: Since the 2006 Election (2019)
www.usip.org

...

Palestinian politics have been rife with divisions since the pursuit of an independent state began in the 1960s. But the national movement formally split"politically, geographically and strategically"after Hamas, an Islamist party, beat Fatah, a secular movement, in the 2006 Palestinian Legislative Council elections. Factional fighting erupted after the two parties failed to reach a power-sharing agreement. Hundreds died. The Palestinian Territories divided into two polities: Hamas ruled Gaza, and Fatah led the Palestinian Authority (PA) in the West Bank.

Between 2007 and 2018, seven reconciliation efforts floundered. The split had rippling repercussions: Diplomatic efforts between the Palestinians and Israel stalled. Israel and Gaza engaged in three major armed conflicts"the three-week war over the new year in 2008-9, the eight-day war of 2012, and the two-month summer war of 2014. Gaza faced blockades from both Israel and Egypt due to both countries' security concerns. Conditions in Gaza deteriorated, with rampant poverty, growing unemployment and deepening public health problems.

The 2011 Arab uprisings inspired demonstrations in the Palestinian Territories. Both the West Bank and Gaza witnessed protests by Palestinians fed up with the years-long strife between Fatah and Hamas. The main flashpoints, however, were economic policies and living conditions; protesters did not call for the ouster of the major parties, as in other Arab states. Fatah and Hamas responded to public pressure by signing a unity deal that brought together 13 factions. But it was short-lived.

Conditions deteriorated further in Gaza, where two million people live in an area only twice the size of Washington, D.C. A 2012 U.N. report questioned whether the enclave would be livable by 2020, given the existential challenges to its water, electricity, health, and education infrastructures.

The rise of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood in 2012 boosted the profile of Hamas, as with other Islamist parties in the Middle East. But the momentum soon dissipated; the Brotherhood was forcibly ousted in mid-2013. Hamas was further isolated.

Between 2012 and 2017, tensions escalated internally between Fatah and Hamas and regionally among Hamas, Israel and Egypt. In 2014, Israel launched Operation Protective Edge after rocket attacks from Gaza. More than 2,100 Palestinian and over 70 Israelis died during the seven-week conflict. ...



One of the better descriptions I have read about the issue.


But as I have said many times, this problem will not be resolved by war, it will be resolved by diplomacy.

And Saudia Arabia and Israel were on the way to resolving an issue between them. Iran, apparently, was aghast of those discussions for peace and prompted Hamas to strike.


#151 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-07 12:51 AM | Reply

(had to split the comment to stay under to 4000 character limit. Here's the second half.... )

I look forward to the possible US (et alia) brokered cease-fire and any discussions that may subsequently occur.


U.S. pushes for initial Gaza ceasefire without return of hostages - report
www.i24news.tv

... The latest push reportedly seeks to avoid fighting during Islam's holy month Ramadan, while some are concerned Hamas wants to inflame the region instead.

While holding out for Hamas to accept a ceasefire and hostage release proposal, U.S. and Arab negotiators floated a potential short pause to hostilities in the Gaza Strip while the larger deal gets ironed out, according to The Wall Street Journal.

Israeli media were quick to pick up on the U.S. shift away from conditioning any ceasefire on the release of hostages abducted during the Hamas-led October 7 attack, reading in between the lines of official statements, as well as through sources.

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken released a statement alongside the Qatari prime minister, saying a ceasefire would enable a hostage release rather than being a precondition. A political source told Israel Hayom that was indeed a shift in the American position.

Just last night, U.S. President Joe Biden said "The Israelis are cooperating, and it's now up to Hamas to agree to a ceasefire." ...



#152 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-07 12:52 AM | Reply

Did the Nazis have a country?
#136 | POSTED BY 1LUMPER2

The Nazi Party?

Yes. Idiot. They were a political party in Germany.

Educate yourself, stupid.

#153 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-07 01:20 AM | Reply

Educate yourself, stupid.
#153 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

What was it in response to?

Rhetorical question moron.

You can't be as stupid out here, as you are on the nooner.

#154 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-03-07 01:23 AM | Reply

POSTED BY TRES_FLECHAS

Hey, genius.

Newsflash.

Regardless of party, the United States of America will defend Israel to the bitter end. Against the rest of the world if necessary.

Cutting off your nose won't change a damn thing.

Stop hyperventilating.

Seriously.

You're sounding like a hurt child who just found out the world isn't fair.

#155 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-07 01:25 AM | Reply

#154 | POSTED BY 1LUMPER2

You still don't get it do you?

Let's find out.

It should be easy for you to answer.

Does Hamas have a country?

Yes or no?

#156 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-07 01:29 AM | Reply

@#154 ... What was it in response to?

Rhetorical question moron. ...

So, when someone answers the question your current alias asks, with a valid answer, your current alias' response is little more than insults.

Hmmmm... what other recent trolling alias does that sound like?


#157 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-07 01:29 AM | Reply

He's too dumb to be a troll.

#158 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-07 01:31 AM | Reply

I'd proffer that you just illustrated my point.

:)

thx.

#159 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-07 01:36 AM | Reply

@#158

Looks like their shift ended. They all went away.

A low-level operation, imo.

Anything with adequate funding would provide trolls 'round the clock.

So that seems to beg the question... who, or what, is funding them?

:)


#160 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-03-07 02:04 AM | Reply

Claudio must have taken the night off.

#161 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-03-07 02:06 AM | Reply

CLOWN

"Claudio must have taken the night off."

Even Trump's livery boys need time off occasionally.

#162 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-03-07 06:36 AM | Reply

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