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Saturday, June 08, 2024

The fight over which mail ballots should be counted during this year's general election is already well underway.

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Trump puts a guy in charge that guts the post office and now is targeting late arriving ballots? This can't be true! (/snark)

State's Rights! The state is allowing it through laws the state passed. I haven't read any actual legal opinions on it but I personally don't see how it violates federal law. If it does, that law just might be unconstitutional. The vote being cast on time and all.

#1 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2024-06-06 04:29 PM | Reply

Of course they are. The right is always looking to restrict voting. They have to since they've been out of ideas for the majority of my adult life.

#2 | Posted by jpw at 2024-06-07 01:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#1 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE

If you want to look like a third world country allowing ballots after the election date should be an exception not a rule. Meaning the amount should be less than 1% of the tally.

The US, the supposedly greatest country in the world, taking a week to figure out the vote totals is hilariously third world.

#3 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-06-07 01:53 AM | Reply | Funny: 4

"The US, the supposedly greatest country in the world, taking a week to figure out the vote totals is hilariously third world.

#3 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT AT 2024-06-07 01:53 AM | FLAG: "

Yep. Apparently, it's the new normal. It's ridiculous, but here we are.

#4 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-07 04:47 AM | Reply | Funny: 3

Count every vote. Why would anyone have a problem with that?

#5 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-06-07 10:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

@#4 ... Apparently, it's the new normal. ...

"Public opinion" normal, of "reality" normal?

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-07 10:37 PM | Reply

Oh no! A deep-blue state votes by mail and says it is a secure way to vote. ...

Of course, that is just what MAGA wants to hear. But guess what ...

Securing Your Mail Ballot
vote.utah.gov

... Utah has been voting by mail for over a decade, and it has proven to be a secure and accessible way to vote. ...


#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-07 10:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#7 ... accessible way to vote ...

Yeah, that is, imo, why Republicans are so afraid of voting by mail.

It increases the accessibility to voting of those who are eligible to vote, without the difficulties the Republicans want to present towards those voters who tend not to vote for Republicans.

#8 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-07 10:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

@#3 ... allowing ballots after the election date should be an exception not a rule. ...

Were those ballots made on or before the election date and were just delivered after the election date?

#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-07 10:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#7 ... accessible way to vote ...
Yeah, that is, imo, why Republicans are so afraid of voting by mail.
It increases the accessibility to voting of those who are eligible to vote, without the difficulties the Republicans want to present towards those voters who tend not to vote for Republicans.
#8 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Despicably newsworthy.

Well said, la luz.

#10 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-06-07 10:53 PM | Reply

Notice how the cockroaches flee when a little light is shined on them.

#11 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-06-08 01:07 AM | Reply

Well, trump has one of his lakies appointed as head of USPS so that should slow things down, like the mail.

Just another chess piece in position.

#12 | Posted by bat4255 at 2024-06-08 10:15 AM | Reply

If this election is close and is decided by "found ballots", "late arriving ballots", "unusual same day registrations", you will get the rioting that you have been gaslighting us to believe Jan 6 was. That and then some. FJB

#13 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-06-08 10:57 AM | Reply

The reason for the late votes is so the riggers can discover who didn't vote already and vote for them.

#14 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-08 11:51 AM | Reply

Thousands of mail-in ballots routinely arrive without a postmark
www.npr.org

#15 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-08 11:53 AM | Reply

" If you want to look like a third world country allowing ballots after the election date should be an exception not a rule."

Don't be a moron. Things like IRAs can be opened with a postmark by midnight on April 15, regardless when it arrives.

Making this change would create a double standard.

I'm for the same, single standard: Anyone who votes, and gets their vote in the mail in time, should have their vote count.

#16 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-08 12:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I have a mail machine from a previous job. I can postmark any date or time you want. If you want to accept late ballots I can redo the 2020 election for Trump.

#17 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-06-08 01:00 PM | Reply

#17
You're making the case against mail-in voting, right?

#18 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-08 01:27 PM | Reply

Yep. Apparently, it's the new normal. It's ridiculous, but here we are.

#4 | Posted by BellRinger

What's ridiculous are the arbitrary metrics you idiots put up to define greatness.

BTW most third world countries take so little time because the elections are actually rigged. Doesn't take long to determine a predetermined winner.

#19 | Posted by jpw at 2024-06-08 01:36 PM | Reply

It takes time to determine which registered voters have already voted. They don't want to produce duplicates.

#20 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-06-08 02:20 PM | Reply

"If your tax return is postmarked by the filing date deadline, the IRS considers it on time. Mail your return in a USPS blue collection box or at a Postal location that has a pickup time before the deadline."

drudge.com

We should have the same reasonable standard for votes.

#21 | Posted by danni at 2024-06-08 02:54 PM | Reply

" If you want to accept late ballots I can redo the 2020 election for Trump"

Go right ahead. Pretend there are no checks and safety measures. And be sure to do it at a scale that would win elections.

Hope you look good in stripes.

#22 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-08 02:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"deepfake video of a State Department official falsely claiming a Russian city is a legitimate target for Ukrainian strikes using U.S. weapons."

Of course they should be. It's a war but we want Ukraine to accept daily attacks on civillian targets and not retaliate? Insane! Russians need to feel the war threatening themselves, their families, their homes, etc. The real success of the Russian propaganda machine has been hiding the crimes against humanity Putin commits on a daily basis from the Russian people. When Ukrainian missiles blow up their businesses, homes, etc. that pscho won't be able to hide the war from the prople of Russia any longer and they might decide they would live better, safer, lives with him dead! I hope he is killed with an Ameican weapon used by Ukrainians in defense of their nation, his palace should be a target.

#23 | Posted by danni at 2024-06-08 03:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I most always take my mail-in ballot to a drop box.

#24 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-06-08 03:16 PM | Reply

" It takes time to determine which registered voters have already voted. They don't want to produce duplicates."

Except even when given time, THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. At scale, voters would discover votes were cast they didn't make, and even a 99.9% success rate would create a duplicate trail leading right back to the perpetrators.

And since there are NO examples, even given time to investigate, it's clear: it doesn't happen, save the rare, garden variety of voting absentee for a newly-passed family member, or in the old state and the new one.

#25 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-08 03:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

" Apparently, it's the new normal. It's ridiculous, but here we are."

If you'll notice, none of the states which allowed early counting had a problem. It was only the ones, required by the legislatures, which didn't allow counting until all voting had stopped.

The problem is clear. The issue is folks who don't want the problem solved.

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-08 03:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Postmaster General, Louis DeJoy (Trump appointed) is under a court order. He's not allowed to go out smashing sorting machines any more.

And I think there's already a precedent for counting post-election ballots as long as they're date stamped. Case in point: (If I remember correctly) was Military personnel stationed out of the country.

#27 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-06-08 04:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It won't go well if boxes of 100% votes for Biden are found and counted late at night after the observers are sent home. Again.

#28 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-06-08 05:23 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

A Democrat has already proven some time ago mail in ballots are ripe for fraud. The priority should be honest and accurate elections, not ever convenience. Give us paper ballots, indelible ink on thumb after voting, and an official voting day or week end. Electronic voting is never needed except by those who rig elections.

#29 | Posted by Robson at 2024-06-08 06:17 PM | Reply

Black Box voting tried to solve corrupt elections but Dems didnt want it solved. They wanted to rig elections. Most worthless leftist Dems are content with trash elections and dead people voting. Sad but expected. A worthless element of society.

#30 | Posted by Robson at 2024-06-08 06:23 PM | Reply

"It won't go well if boxes of 100% votes for Biden are found and counted late at night after the observers are sent home. Again.
POSTED BY VISITOR_ AT 2024-06-08 05:23 PM"

It won't go well if someone makes an unsupported claim and refuses to accept the adjudicated results when it goes against them. Again.

Of course, IF you have evidence from 2020 that "boxes of 100% votes for Biden are found and counted late at night after the observers are sent home", then present it and notify the authorities. Otherwise, you are guilty of aiding and abetting a serious crime.

So, do you have such evidence?

ROFLMAO!!!

#31 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2024-06-08 06:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

TRUEBLUE

"adjudicated" is a big grownup word. You'll have to tell VISITOR what it means.

#32 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-06-08 06:41 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The US, the supposedly greatest country in the world, taking a week to figure out the vote totals is hilariously third world.
#3 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT AT 2024-06-07 01:53 AM | FLAG: "
Yep. Apparently, it's the new normal. It's ridiculous, but here we are.

#4 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2024-06-07 04:47 AM | REPLY |

Apparently you guys haven't heard that it takes a while for mail- in ballots to be counted. Not to mention those ballots that come from military personnel from overseas. But you aren't here for honesty are you??

#33 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-06-08 07:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The priority should be honest and accurate elections, not ever convenience

It is.

Some people, however; are smart enough to do more than one thing at a time.

#34 | Posted by jpw at 2024-06-08 07:32 PM | Reply

It can't possibly be easy and honest and accurate!
The "arguments" from the right are embarrassing AF.

#35 | Posted by YAV at 2024-06-08 09:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's cute that all of the Ruskie bots here agree with each other.

#36 | Posted by a_monson at 2024-06-08 11:34 PM | Reply

the majority of my adult life.

#2 | Posted by jpw at 2024-06-07 01:14 AM | Reply | Flag:
| Newsworthy 3

About 6 months...ammiright?

#37 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-06-09 01:44 AM | Reply

If you aren't disabled, living in an assisted living facility, blind, or serving the country overseas you have no business voting by mail. If you can't bother giving up an hour of your time to vote in person (of which most companies give time off to do so) then you're lazy and that's just a fact Jack.

#38 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-06-09 09:40 AM | Reply

If you aren't disabled, living in an assisted living facility, blind, or serving the country overseas you have no business voting by mail. If you can't bother giving up an hour of your time to vote in person (of which most companies give time off to do so) then you're lazy and that's just a fact Jack.

POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES AT 2024-06-09 09:40 AM | REPLY

Eff yourself. It should be up to the voter how he or she voted. If they want to do it in person. That's awesome. If they want to vote by mail. That's awesome too. BTW Mail in voting is the smartest way to vote. You get to take your time.you can research each question and person on the ballot and will have an informed completed ballot.

#39 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-06-09 09:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Funny how its only Republicans doing all of
these shennanigans to try and influence how
the vote turns out.

It's come to be expected from the party of CHEATS...

#40 | Posted by earthmuse at 2024-06-09 10:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If you aren't disabled, living in an assisted living facility, blind, or serving the country overseas you have no business voting by mail. If you can't bother giving up an hour of your time to vote in person (of which most companies give time off to do so) then you're lazy and that's just a fact Jack.

#38 | Posted by Bluewaffles

As usual, you're a shining example of why white people are so annoying.

You do know there is a whole wide world of experience past the end of your own nose, right?

#41 | Posted by jpw at 2024-06-09 10:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

" If you can't bother giving up an hour of your time to vote in person (of which most companies give time off to do so)"

A lot of made-up bullschittt for one phrase.

First, you'll have to prove most companies give workers time off to vote. That doesn't pass the smell test.

Second, an hour to vote? What color do you suppose these voters are, white?

From what I've seen, every time there's a long, hours plus line to vote, the line is full of minorities. Meanwhile, at my white person voting place, it took me 11 minutes last time from car door to car door, including two minutes of walking each way ... so 7 minutes, net.

How long did it take you? If it's less than "hours", that's by design.

#42 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-09 10:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

In person voting is the most secure method of voting.

#43 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-09 11:01 AM | Reply

It's amazing to me that for an overwhelming majority of our country's history in person voting worked well. Now the left acts like it's impossible.

#44 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-09 11:02 AM | Reply

In person voting is the most secure method of voting.

POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2024-06-09 11:01 AM | REPLY

The same for mail-in voting Jeff.

#45 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-06-09 11:04 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As posted above Democrats have never ever viewed voting as a civic obligation of democracy that should be done as a citizen with pride in country and of opinion. Not all, but many Democrats are a lazy lot that will not go out of their way to vote unless it already comes in a stamped previously addressed envelope. Most need led around by the nose to vote just like Biden led off the stage by his wife. They save the voter rolls of deceased to use as needed against the opposition. Voting needs to be easy (and crooked) for Dems.

#46 | Posted by Robson at 2024-06-09 11:15 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

It's amazing to me that for an overwhelming majority of our country's history in person voting worked well.
#44 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

Majority ...
When did it not work well?

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-09 11:23 AM | Reply

"As posted above Democrats have never ever viewed voting as a civic obligation of democracy that should be done as a citizen with pride in country and of opinion."

Yeah? When was the last Republican Million Mam March? Democrats since Roosevelt fave represented Civil Rights for all anf the stories are so numerous about voters, who wanted to cast their ballots that they stood for many hous waiting to vote in places where Republicans have tried everything possible to make voting nore difficult; like closing polling places etc. Lately some states have passed laws forbidding anyone from offering them water.

Yhis discussion has been going on in the Ubited States since the Civil Rights era and it is always about Republicans being against anything that makes it easier for poor people tp vote. Republicans have spoken openly about it nany times and their strategy in all elections and especially in Presidential elections is to suppress the vote; they know that the higher the paeticipation in elections the less likely it becpmes that they will win and everyone posting on this thread knows that is true! Only actual liars will deny that,

#48 | Posted by danni at 2024-06-09 12:42 PM | Reply

#38 then have each state mandate their must be an appropriate number of voting places in EVERY voting district.

No? You ready to make sure poor people have to wait 3 or 4 times longer so they get disturbed and leave without voting?

Thought so.

#49 | Posted by ABH at 2024-06-09 01:24 PM | Reply

Sounds to me like the Democrats don't know how to effectively run polling places. If a Republican station takes 11 minutes vs a Democrat station taking 3-4 hours it's a literal perfect example of why Democrats shouldn't be running the administrative state. You guys are showcasing the uselessness of your party and just want to be able to take more of the monetary representation of people's hard work while being lazy bums.

#50 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-06-09 01:39 PM | Reply

" If a Republican station takes 11 minutes vs a Democrat station taking 3-4 hours it's a literal perfect example of why Democrats shouldn't be running the administrative state."

I'll take Ignorance On Parade for $1,600, Ken.

#51 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-09 01:46 PM | Reply

"If a Republican station takes 11 minutes vs a Democrat station taking 3-4 hours it's a literal perfect example of why Democrats shouldn't be running the administrative state."

The long lines are at urban voting places in red states, dumfuq. The kind of state where the governor will order speed traps set up on the major routes to and from "certain" voting places on Election Day.

#52 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-09 01:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sounds to me like the Democrats don't know how to effectively run polling places. If a Republican station ...

Here on earth1 our election stations are nonpartisan. We don't go to "democratic" or "republican" stations to vote in general elections.

Sounds to me like you have no clue how election stations are run or they are very different over there on earth2.

ALL election administrators here in America on earth1 are expected to perform their duties in a nonpartisan manner, even when the elections they administer lead to outcomes they do not personally endorse.

We should be strengthening the firewall between politics and the administration of the voting process not weakening it as maga republicans are continually trying to do.

#53 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-09 01:59 PM | Reply

If the IRS accepts the postmarked date, why shouldn't the election board?

OCU

#54 | Posted by OCUser at 2024-06-09 02:01 PM | Reply

DANFORTH, elections are run by the County which in the situations you describe are Democratic run. But you're clearly want to breeze over that. So if it's not Democrats that are the problem are you saying it's because minorities are incompetent? Because if you are that's pretty damn racist. Almost as racist as Gov Hochul saying black people don't know what a computer is.

#55 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-06-09 02:14 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

" ... elections are run by the County"

Elections are run by the secretary of state. Counties, for example, don't choose their own funding.

#56 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-09 02:21 PM | Reply

" are you saying it's because minorities are incompetent?"

No, I'm saying longer lines aren't their choice.

How long did it take you to vote last time?

#57 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-09 02:29 PM | Reply

If the IRS accepts the postmarked date, why shouldn't the election board?

Because the Democrats aren't reviewing returns to see who didn't file so they can file a return for them?

#58 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-06-09 03:29 PM | Reply

No, I'm saying longer lines aren't their choice.

They voted for whomever administers their polling place, so actually it was their choice. They got what they voted for.

#59 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-06-09 03:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I wouldn't go so far as to say that only landowners should vote, but maybe only taxpayers. Net positive rate taxpayers. They are, after all, the only ones with an actual investment in society.

#60 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-09 03:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

but maybe only taxpayers. Net positive rate taxpayers. They are, after all, the only ones with an actual investment in society.

#60 | POSTED BY LOOK_INWARD

In other words... universal sufferage.

You do realize, EVERYONE pays taxes, right?

#61 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-09 04:01 PM | Reply

maybe only taxpayers. Net positive rate taxpayers.

The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.
Good luck.

#62 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-06-09 04:14 PM | Reply

but maybe only taxpayers. Net positive rate taxpayers. They are, after all, the only ones with an actual investment in society.

#60 | POSTED BY LOOK_INWARD

So when the wealthy pay no taxes, or very little compared to their income that year, they don't get to vote? Interesting plan Comrade!

Good luck with that.

#63 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-09 04:27 PM | Reply

Besides, a lot of rich people, including Trump, manage to go years without paying taxes, and they're proud of the accomplishment.

OCU

#64 | Posted by OCUser at 2024-06-09 05:22 PM | Reply

Had Trump won in 2020 with all the mail in ballots they were so afraid of, this would not be an issue. Visitors lies about Democrats committing voting fraud while providing zero evidence just goes to show how stupid this discussion really is.

Waffles is massively unconvincing, to boot. But they will keep pounding their head against the wall regardless. Begs the question, why bother?

#65 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-06-09 05:53 PM | Reply

" maybe only taxpayers. Net positive rate taxpayers."

Will that include federal subsidies coming back to states?

There goes Mississippi.

#66 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-09 06:17 PM | Reply

@#60 ... I wouldn't go so far as to say that only landowners should vote, but maybe only taxpayers. Net positive rate taxpayers. They are, after all, the only ones with an actual investment in society. ...

Why do you think that those who pay taxes are the only ones who have an actual investment in society?

Is money needed to make an investment in society?

What do you think of the millions of volunteers who contribute their time and effort to society with no moeny exchanged?

#67 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-09 06:32 PM | Reply

Godfathers - Birth, School, Work, Death (1987)
www.youtube.com


#68 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-09 06:35 PM | Reply

- Net positive rate taxpayers. They are, after all, the only ones with an actual investment in society.

You'll know them by the 666 on their foreheads.

They can even use it to scan for Voter ID!

Money has become God for Est Republicans, who now own them enough Trumpers, through fear and intimidation on social and cultural issues, in small population states to make winning the popular vote passe.

#69 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-09 06:50 PM | Reply

"What do you think of the millions of volunteers who contribute their time and effort to society with no money exchanged?"

Suckers and Losers.
~DJT

#70 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-09 06:59 PM | Reply

#50. Yes. Bluewaffles. Good outcome is always based on good planning and good execution. Something the left doesnt grasp.

#71 | Posted by Robson at 2024-06-09 07:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"In person voting is the most secure method of voting."

It's the easiest to control access.

You know...the salient point.

#72 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-09 07:23 PM | Reply

@#71 ... Good outcome is always based on good planning and good execution. ...

Good planning and good execution to get the desired good outcome?

Yeah, that is what the GOP seems to be doing with their elimination of the ability of the ability to vote for those who do not usually vote for Republicans.

Yup.

Good planning and good execution. Such efficiency. Dissent is not allowed. Making it easier for the good execution part.

Just like Nazi Germany.

So efficient.


#73 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-09 07:25 PM | Reply

Thanks for all the responses!
I'd like to point out that all income and sales taxes are antithetical to the constitution as originally conceived. The government didn't need so much money before they decided to Karen up the planet. For what we legitimately need, tariffs and property taxes would be enough. Additionally, the gov having to borrow and pay interest on their money is patently ridiculous. End Game incoming on that shell game. The time of universal loserage and suckerage approaches!

#74 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-09 08:57 PM | Reply

Thanks for all the responses!

Calm down. You're a long way from the coveted Eberly.

#75 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-06-09 09:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

@#74 ... I'd like to point out that all income and sales taxes are antithetical to the constitution as originally conceived. ...

So, quit yer whining and start up a court case that makes it to SCOTUS.

#76 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-09 09:15 PM | Reply

@#74 ... For what we legitimately need, tariffs and property taxes would be enough ...

Please start a new thread showing the budget figures for what "we legitimately need" and how tariffs and property taxes would be enough.

Make sure the thread starts with defining exactly who the "we" are that you refer to.

I'd like to participate in such a thread.

Looking forward to the thread.



#77 | Posted by LampLighter at 2024-06-09 09:18 PM | Reply

- decided to Karen up the planet.

America Firsters, same now as then:

www.theatlantic.com">www.theatlantic.com

#78 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-09 09:20 PM | Reply

www.theatlantic.com

#79 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-09 09:20 PM | Reply

I have a mail machine from a previous job. I can postmark any date or time you want. If you want to accept late ballots I can redo the 2020 election for Trump.

#17 | Posted by visitor_ at 2024-06-08 01:00 PM | Reply | Flag:

Go ahead and mail in 12,000 votes for the demented pedo to GA now. I'll look for you on the news.

#80 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-06-10 01:26 PM | Reply

For what we legitimately need, tariffs and property taxes would be enough.

Show the math.

#81 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-06-10 01:28 PM | Reply

Good outcome is always based on good planning and good execution.

Just like 1/6 and the myriad of frivolous lawsuits that have cost Sydney Powell, Rudy Gooliani, Jenna Ellis, John Eastman, etc their livelihoods and law licenses, hundreds of "good planners" their freedom and thousands and thousands in legal fees, etc.

#82 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-06-10 01:31 PM | Reply

For what we legitimately need, tariffs and property taxes would be enough.

#74 | POSTED BY LOOK_INWARD

Current US Property Tax Income: $600 Billion (all state and local)
Current US Property Taxes going to the Feds: $0
Current US Tariff Income: $100 billion

So you want to drastically increase property taxes? Or you think the Feds should just have $100 billion budget per year?

Typical Uneducated Voter

#83 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-06-10 01:58 PM | Reply

Tariffs were the greatest (approaching 95% at times) source of federal revenue until the federal income tax began after 1913.

Late response because I have other stuff to do.
Google the quote if you cry "source!"
Because it's low now is not a positive. It means we have sold out.

#84 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-10 07:44 PM | Reply

You can't comprehend it becaues frog pot slow boil.
They win; We lose.

#85 | Posted by look_inward at 2024-06-10 07:53 PM | Reply

"Because it's low now is not a positive. It means we have sold out."

Two quick questions:

1. Who do you blame?
2. Who's responsible for the last 4 tax codes?

#86 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-10 10:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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