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Monday, December 09, 2024

A man in Altoona, Pennsylvania, was stopped with a fake ID and is being held for questioning in connection with the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in New York City, law enforcement sources told ABC News.

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BREAKING: Authorities are questioning a man in central Pennsylvania who was found with a gun similar to the one used in the shooting of healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, law enforcement sources say.[image or embed]

-- NBC News (@nbcnews.com) December 9, 2024 at 11:30 AM

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Meanwhile, none of the world's worst people are being hunted down, or on trial, or in prison.

Our society is fed a steady diet of movies and television shows depicting masked superheroes fighting villains who abuse and murder people in illegal ways. Billions of dollars are made on these spectacles.

But then real life shows up and we see that the actual villains of our society murder people in ways that are completely legal. None of their abuses are against the law, or if they are, they somehow escape trial or punishment.

Those that wear masks and protest or try to even try to hunt them down become themselves the hunted. There's no money to be made in Truth, Justice and what's touted as "The American Way"

#1 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-12-09 12:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

He'll never be as popular as Killer Kyle was... guns being much more popular than health care.

Had he shot an immigrant rather than a CEO, he might qualify for a Cabinet spot now, though.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-09 12:13 PM | Reply

Why would he have to show ID in a McDonalds? I'm sure there a many people at McDonalds with guns, knives and writing manifestos. Why single him out?

#3 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2024-12-09 12:20 PM | Reply

"Why would he have to show ID in a McDonalds? I'm sure there a many people at McDonalds with guns, knives and writing manifestos. Why single him out?"

Because it will make for a suspenseful scene (and convenient product placement $$$) when they finally make a movie out of all this. It's all part of the narrative. Play along with it.

#4 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-12-09 12:24 PM | Reply

#3

He ordered the 12 pounder Big Mac, and those are reserved for the Once and Future President.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-09 12:28 PM | Reply

Had he shot an immigrant rather than a CEO, he might qualify for a Cabinet spot now, though.

#2 | POSTED BY CORKY

If he shot an immigrant on 5th Ave he could be President!

#6 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-09 12:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The news is reporting that the guy had a handgun with a silencer and a number of fake IDs.

#7 | Posted by Tor at 2024-12-09 01:06 PM | Reply

If he's the actual shooter and is convicted before Jan 20 Biden will probably pardon him.

#8 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-12-09 01:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

If he's the actual shooter and is convicted before Jan 20 Biden will probably pardon him.

#8 | Posted by BellRinger

Why is this a partisan issue?

And...do you have any idea how many people on BOTH SIDES of the aisle would support the pardon?

#9 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-12-09 01:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

If he's the actual shooter and is convicted before Jan 20 Biden will probably pardon him.

The smelly------------- you adore is going to pardon the filth-smearing degenerates responsible for the deaths of 5 DC cops.

#10 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-12-09 01:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Biden will probably pardon him.

#8 | Posted by BellRinger

Trolling.. trolling.. trolling!

Keep them doggies trolling, raw dog!

#11 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-12-09 01:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

While I don't condone his execution, the dead insurance CEO was probably responsible for FAR more deaths than his executioner. Even if the killer is tried and convicted, justice will not be served until there is significant change to the system that most likely inspired the killing.

#12 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-12-09 01:47 PM | Reply

Why would he have to show ID in a McDonalds? I'm sure there a many people at McDonalds with guns, knives and writing manifestos. Why single him out?

#3 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2024-12-09 12:20 PM | Reply | Flag:

In the U.S.V.I. they sell beer at McDonalds.

#13 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2024-12-09 01:48 PM | Reply

If he's the actual shooter and is convicted before Jan 20 Biden will probably pardon him.

#8 | Posted by BellRinger

OH! I figured it out.

You get all your views from Ben Shapiro.

EVERYTHING you say literally all matches up perfectly with his podcast.

You listen to him and then come spout his nonsense here.

#14 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-12-09 02:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yep. Looks like ol' boy's been caught:

apnews.com

#15 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-12-09 02:18 PM | Reply

I don't listen to Ben Shapiro and I don't visit the Daily Wire site. I do sometimes read something Shapiro has written but I'm no follower of his. Try again

#16 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-12-09 02:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Suspect is named in breaking stories as one Luigi Mangione.

#17 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-12-09 02:30 PM | Reply

30 min ago
"It had to be done," says document found on person of interest
From CNN's John Miller
Among the lines in the two-page document found on "strong person of interest" Luigi Mangione are the following two quotes: "These parasites had it coming" and "I do apologize for any strife and trauma, but it had to be done," a police official who has seen the document told CNN.

In the note, Mangione says he acted alone and that he was self-funded.

The document railed against the health care industry and suggested violence is the answer, according to the official.
www.cnn.com

#18 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-12-09 02:38 PM | Reply

"Suspect is named in breaking stories as one Luigi Mangione."

Three alleged co-conspirators were also apprehended close by: Exclusive Photo

#19 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-12-09 02:43 PM | Reply

More ...

37m ago
14.04 EST
On what appears to be Mangione's GoodReads account, the 26-year-old reviewed the Unabomber's book, giving it four stars out of five.

In his lengthy review, Magnione described Ted Kaczynski's "In Industrial Society and Its Future" as a book "clearly written by a mathematics prodigy" adding that it "reads like a series of lemmas on the question of 21st century quality of life."

"It's easy to quickly and thoughtless write this off as the manifesto of a lunatic, in order to avoid facing some of the uncomfortable problems it identifies" the review reads. "But it's simply impossible to ignore how prescient many of his predictions about modern society turned out."

He adds: "He was a violent individual - rightfully imprisoned - who maimed innocent people. While these actions tend to be characterized as those of a crazy luddite, however, they are more accurately seen as those of an extreme political revolutionary."

Later in the review, he states:

These companies don't care about you, or your kids, or your grandkids. They have zero qualms about burning down the planet for a buck, so why should we have any qualms about burning them down to survive?
We're animals just like everything else on this planet, except we've forgotten the law of the jungle and bend over for our overlords when any other animal would recognize the threat and fight to the death for their survival. "Violence never solved anything" is a statement uttered by cowards and predators.

www.theguardian.com

#20 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2024-12-09 02:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#17

And he was carrying a gun. No wonder Mario hates him.

#21 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2024-12-09 02:44 PM | Reply

#20

Kids a product of his environment, as are we all more or less. Psychotic, perhaps, but not unintelligent. Murder is hard to justify, and I won't try it here, but Elon shook in his boots a little when he read the News, and that's a contribution of sorts to society; albeit a shout in a dark, empty well.

I would have preferred he capture the guy and hung him naked from a flagpole with his dirty deeds written all over his body. But that's just me.


#22 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-09 02:58 PM | Reply

If he's the actual shooter and is convicted before Jan 20 Biden will probably pardon him.

#8 | Posted by BellRinger a

IMMA just gonna put this here:

Military personnel accused or convicted of war crimes
Trump granted executive clemency to three court-martialed U.S. military officers who were accused or convicted of war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan.[27] Trump granted the pardons against the advice of senior military and Defense Department leadership, as well as U.S. military lawyers.[27] Critics state that Trump's pardons of the officers undermined military discipline, constituted an inappropriate interference in the U.S. military justice system, and called into question the U.S. commitment to the law of armed conflict.[28][29][30] Tensions between Trump and the Defense Department regarding Trump's interventions in the military justice system culminated in the firing of Secretary of the Navy Richard V. Spencer.[27][31][32] Two ex-military officers pardoned by Trump appeared with the president at campaign events in 2019.[32]

#23 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-12-09 03:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Man. Can't get away with anything anymore.

He should run for president and pardon himself.

#24 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-12-09 03:36 PM | Reply

I don't listen to Ben Shapiro and I don't visit the Daily Wire site. I do sometimes read something Shapiro has written but I'm no follower of his. Try again

#16 | Posted by BellRinger

"I don't follow ben shapiro we just get our false propaganda from the same places."

#25 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-12-09 03:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Military personnel accused or convicted of war crimes
Trump granted executive clemency to three court-martialed U.S. military officers who were accused or convicted of war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan

#23 | Posted by truthhurts

*at the urging of pete hedgeseth

#26 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2024-12-09 03:39 PM | Reply

He is not as smart as they made him sound if he still had all the evidence on him.
He should have dumped everything in some river a long time ago.

#27 | Posted by eightfifteenpm at 2024-12-09 03:41 PM | Reply

#26. I'm quite confident my news sources are more diversified than yours.

#28 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-12-09 03:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

He may have wanted to be caught, have a trial, do interviews, write books... spread his message.

Had he gotten away, he would just be an unknown quantity like D. B. Cooper.

Or not.

#29 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-09 03:54 PM | Reply

26. I'm quite confident my news sources are more diversified than yours.

#28 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2024-12-09 03:44 PM | FLAG:

So you came up with your stupid comment about Biden pardoning him all on your own. Congratulations.

#30 | Posted by cbob at 2024-12-09 04:06 PM | Reply

I was scrolling through the apparent shooter's Twitter account, in which he praised or retweeted people like Peter Thiel, Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk and Alex Jones. Trying to remember, are those guys left wingers?

#31 | Posted by cbob at 2024-12-09 04:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Can't get away with anything anymore"

There are still those in the world who will willingly sacrifice their lives in order to make others pay for their heinous crimes.

#32 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2024-12-09 04:51 PM | Reply

" So you came up with your stupid comment about Biden pardoning him all on your own. Congratulations.

#30 | POSTED BY CBOB AT 2024-12-09 04:06 PM | REPLY | FLAG:"

It obviously wasn't a serious comment.

#33 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-12-09 04:55 PM | Reply

It obviously wasn't a serious comment.

"Posted by BellRinger" is a dead giveaway.

#34 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-09 05:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

My armchair analysis of Mangione's politics, based on his social media activity, is that of an antiestablishment guy who is not easily branded liberal or conservative. I imagine he views himself as a pragmatist, a doer, and clearly, as someone not content with the status quo.

#35 | Posted by cbob at 2024-12-09 05:04 PM | Reply

so this guy really took off his mask in a starbucks so he could flirt with some dingbat

no wonder he's a hero to the leftist-dogma KLAN.

#36 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-12-09 05:50 PM | Reply

dingbat.....I've been watching too much "all in the family"

#37 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-12-09 05:51 PM | Reply

Did you mean meathead? I love AntennaTV!

#38 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-12-09 06:05 PM | Reply

Don't go to
McDonald's.

It's filled with
Snitches!

#39 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-09 06:34 PM | Reply

He learned how to shoot his victim in the back from his repug nazi cousin.

www.newsweek.com

#40 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-12-09 06:37 PM | Reply

Time for more people to follow in his footsteps.

Time for billionaires to start fearing the people they're exploiting.

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-12-09 06:40 PM | Reply

Would that change anything?

Or just bring on more repression of innocent people to protect the terrified elites?

Rich people can buy policy and the problems don't affect them directly in most cases.

This CEO was just unlucky.

HE was the first victim and so not protected by his assets.

Only if enough of the truly exploitive rich get taken out by multiple assailants will anything change and probably not even then.

#42 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-12-09 07:40 PM | Reply

"Elon Musk now travels with up to 20 bodyguards who refer to him by the code name 'Voyager,' report says

And "Voyager" doesn't go very far without his bodyguards, flanked by as many as 20 security personnel, some armed " plus a medical professional " wherever he goes, according to the outlet."

more

www.aol.com

'

Could be more CEO attacks, I guess, as people realize the Oligarchs are back in charge with Trump as their Front Man.

Of course, had they realized this fairly obvious fact a bit earlier, we might have been spared the coming Trump the Sequel, where Oligarchs again get tax cuts paid for by cutting social services and loading debt onto taxpayers.

Other than themselves, of course.

#43 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-09 07:58 PM | Reply

Like Voyager 1 Elon Musk was created in the 1970's and lives in deep space.

#44 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-12-09 08:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

He's like Will Robinson grew up to be an az-hol.

He says he's a Christian, apparently. With 3 wives and what 5 kids, I heard. No one's perfect, I guess.

#45 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-09 08:12 PM | Reply

What self-respecting, anti-corporate CEO assassin goes to McDonald's for Chrissake?

#46 | Posted by cbob at 2024-12-09 08:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

What self-respecting, anti-corporate CEO assassin goes to McDonald's for Chrissake?

I'm surprised they're not calling it another assassination attempt on Lewzer.

#47 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-09 08:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

What self-respecting, anti-corporate CEO assassin goes to McDonald's for Chrissake?

#46 | Posted by cbob at 2024-12-09 08:12 PM

One that wants to be caught.

If he didn't want to be caught he'd have used DoorDash.

#48 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2024-12-09 08:42 PM | Reply

- One that wants to be caught.

Yeah, that was my first thought. No use shooting the CEO and wasting the Media Circus, if you happen to be a certain sort of person with a message you want to send.

Shooting down a stranger in the street from behind requires a certain psychological detachment that not everyone has. Thank God. Or whomever you want.

#49 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-09 09:09 PM | Reply

Free Luigi!

#50 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2024-12-09 09:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Pardon Luigi!

lmao...

#51 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-09 09:17 PM | Reply

Shooting down a stranger in the street from behind requires a certain psychological detachment that not everyone has.

Chapman did the same thing to Lennon just over a mile away.

#52 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-09 09:29 PM | Reply

That close? wow

#53 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-09 09:39 PM | Reply

That close?

Google says 1.3 miles from the Hilton to The Dakota.

#54 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-12-09 09:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Good luck finding a jury to try this guy.

Voir dire: "Have you or a family member ever been treated unfairly by a health insurance company?"

#55 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-12-10 08:11 AM | Reply

"Shooting down a stranger in the street from behind requires a certain psychological detachment that not everyone has."

I can't imagine but maybe all it takes is one bad experience.

#56 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2024-12-10 08:40 AM | Reply

'Mangione's X account reposted the quote, "It is no measure of health to be well-adjusted to a profoundly sick society," by J. Krishnamurti at least twice, most recently in January 2024."

#57 | Posted by Corky at 2024-12-10 11:01 AM | Reply

Per the NY Times:

"The family also owned the radio station WCBM, which airs politically conservative programs and has other real estate holdings. A cousin, Nino

Mangione, is an elected member of the Maryland House of Delegates."

So it turns out, he was an educated, upper class, privileged, ideologue, who was rebelling against his family's political beliefs. He was NOT

some innocent father whose kid was left to die of cancer, as so many assumed.

--sorry / not sorry to disappoint you jerk offs...

#58 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-12-10 11:45 AM | Reply

Most Revolutionary people are not poor wretches, he's like the Russian anarchists or the Socialists of the early 20th century.

Most people who actually Do It are acting on principle, not emotional trauma.

Chergrosz shot McKinley, it was a principle thing with him too.

True Political Violence is more frightening and of greater impact than mere revenge murder.

Just as effed up tho'

#59 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2024-12-10 06:29 PM | Reply

So many errors by this guy but the most egregious might be interacting with a woman while on the run. Women have some pre born uncanny ability to remember faces.

Surprised he didn't dump his fake IDs after escaping NY and then keeping the murder weapon, just total stupidity.

#60 | Posted by THEBULL at 2024-12-10 07:49 PM | Reply

My guess is he felt some sort of omnipotence. It had been a few days and he still hadn't gotten busted, and he was wondering if he ever would get the fame that he deserved.

#61 | Posted by cbob at 2024-12-11 06:27 AM | Reply

The ACA was supposed to make health care more affordable by limiting insurance companyprofits and rebating excess proceeds to patients.

On the day that ACA was passed the CEOs got together
and decided to make all their dreams come true,
so they hired more accountants to hide the gold
And cook the books until they were in the red.

That is why, that boy from Hawaii
Followed you, all over town.
Just like me, he longed to be
Cancer free.

#62 | Posted by Miranda7 at 2024-12-11 11:36 AM | Reply

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