Sitz, are you aware that Iran is inflicting economic harm on the world by restricting traffic in the strait of hormuz? You understand that that is their primary strategic objective-to inflict enough economic hardship that the US and Israel offer a ceasefire.

You understand that correct?

You do understand that the hardship imposed by Iran can ONLY be relieved by not only opening the SoH but also having the Gulf states pumping and loading the oil at levels similar to what they were pumping before the war.

You get that, right? That victory for Israel and America is not measured by blowing up equipment but by imposing their will sufficient to clear that "pipeline" of oil and LNG and fertilizer and helium etc.

You understand that, right?

That if you blow up 98% of Iran's rockets and missiles and drone and artillery and mines and boats and submarines, Iran can STILL close that pipeline, because private companies need to be convinced to move their ships through and the Gulf states need to be able to pump oil into said ships.

You understand that, right?

Are America and Israel days away from destroying 100% and VERIFYING said 100% of Iranian weapons such that private companies will risk their ships?

If the answer is no, then we are looking at a massive world wide recession that will make 2008 and 2020 look like child's play.

US VP Vance says we know we got a problem' with petrol prices
US Vice President JD Vance has acknowledged that "we got a problem" when it comes to rising petrol prices amid the US-Israel war on Iran.

"Gas [petrol] prices are up. We know they're up, and we know people are hurting because of it," he said during a speech at a manufacturing facility in Michigan.

"We got a problem " we know that we got a problem," he continued, adding that "we're working on couple things that will be announced in the next 24, 48 hours".

The vice president did not elaborate, saying he did not want to get ahead of President Donald Trump.

LOL

Ya think?!!

Oh noes, my solar excess is profitable again.

#8 | Posted by sitzkrieg

You think the only thing that will be impacted are people's energy rates you are, well, stupid.

So, apparently we attacked Iran's nuclear power plant and largest natural gas field

So, umm not good, as Iran is going to escalate

Iran responded by hitting Qatar's oil fields/

This is very very bad

The killing of Ali Larijani shows that Israel is not interested in a negotiated peace.

Larijani, while despicable was a key figure in negotiations. He is the guy that Whitkoff supposedly had back door contact with.

So, umm, killing him shows that negotiations are not on the table.

Again, America is LOSING this war. At some point Piggy will realize that and ask for a ceasefire.

the ONLY question is how much the cost will be before Piggy comes to that realization.

Fortunately, Piggy is well known for his level headed decision making and deep knowledge on middle east politics and nuclear disarmament.

Iran warns will destroy Gulf energy sector if its own attacked again
The IRGC has warned that Iranian forces would destroy the oil and gas industry of its Gulf neighbours, it its own energy sector is attacked again.

"We warn you once again that you made a big mistake in attacking the energy infrastructure of the Islamic Republic, the response to which is being implemented," a statement carried by Iranian media said.

"If it is repeated again, further attacks on your energy infrastructure and that of your allies will not stop until it is completely destroyed, and our response will be much more severe than tonight's attacks."

Abu Dhabi gas facilities shut down due to falling debris after missile interception
The Habshan gas facilities in Abu Dhabi have been shut down over an incident caused by falling debris from the interception of missiles, the Abu Dhabi Media Office has said.

Authorities are responding to incidents at the gas facilities and the Bab oilfield.

"Operations at the gas facilities have been suspended, and no injuries have been reported," the media office said.

this is not good

It's great for the environment.

#19 | Posted by sitzkrieg

You are not very smart

If all you think the world faces is "inflation" you are not very intelligent.

it's literally raining oil over there. What are you smoking?

#21 | Posted by Alexandrite

I suspect he is trolling.

It is amazing how many trolls there are around here.

Oh no! Food is more expensive in.. the fattest nations on earth.

#26 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Yeah who cares about the famine that will sweep the globe, amirite!

To be absolutely clear Israel is pursuing a course of action designed to prevent any negotiated ceasefire. They are assassinating the decision makers in the government and are targeting civilian infrastructure including Iran's oil production. These attacks are designed to escalate the conflict

Is Israel ignoring Piggy? Is Israel controllable?

Is Israel leading the US into a quagmire?

We need to cut off Israel IMMEDIATELY

Iran attacks wipe out 17% of Qatar's LNG capacity for up to 5 years
QatarEnergy CEO Saad al-Kaabi says Iran's attacks have damaged facilities that produce 17 percent of the company's liquefied natural gas (LNG) exports and it will take three to five years to repair them.

---------- thinks this is no big deal

F35 $100 million down the toilet

3 weeks into the war, when our secretary of defense is telling us we have air supremacy a top of the line fighter gets shot down

It's funny that the Strait of Hormuz is shut down.

Pretty amazing amount of damage caused by such a ------ military power, isn't that so ----------?

Hilarious that Iran destroyed 17% of Qatar's LNG production that won't be fixed for 3 to 5 years, at best. That will cause gas prices to rise for decades

Hilarious how no amount of destruction wrought by A-10s and helicopters and 5,000 lb bombs can stop that. that is pretty darn funny.

Maybe a nuke or 2 will get Iran to surrender, or maybe not, maybe they will send a few missiles and destroy multiple desalination plants

Now, THAT would be funny

Hilarious that Iran destroyed 17% of Qatar's LNG production that won't be fixed for 3 to 5 years, at best. That will cause gas prices to rise for decades

Hilarious how no amount of destruction wrought by A-10s and helicopters and 5,000 lb bombs can stop that. that is pretty darn funny.

Maybe a nuke or 2 will get Iran to surrender, or maybe not, maybe they will send a few missiles and destroy multiple desalination plants

Now, THAT would be funny

So far this has been an almost unprecedented military success. Will that translate to a desired outcome? That's where I get skeptical. However to act like this is anything other than a complete massacre. It would be like Cumberland scoring a late garbage touchdown to make the score 222-7.

#74 | Posted by BellRinger

If you were sincere, you would not understand what is going on. But you're not sincere cause you're a troll.

How much destruction to the world's economy can Iran inflict?

How many people will pay the price for that destruction?

What will be the impact in the loss of 35% of the world's fertilizer at the start of the growing season for 70% of arable land?

What will be the impact on developing nations when the lights go off because they run out of fuel?

What will happen to inflation when the supply chain shortages start building up?

Since you're a selfish -----, what will be the impact to America from the massive refugee flow that will inevitably occur?

If you were to honestly answer ANY of those questions, the next question I would ask you is "Will this massacre you describe have any effect on preventing the damage Iran is causing?"

I know you won't respond with any level of sincerity or honest

Because you are a troll, IOW a lying piece of ----.

This is what our Israeli & Gulf regional allies wanted. They knew what would happen. Do you rip off the bandaid before or after that same regime is nuclear capable?

#71 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Iran wasn't pursing a nuke

is the world safer for Iran NOT having a nuke?

Would this or any war be happening if Iran HAD a nuke?

Israel is learning that MAD can be achieved even without a nuke.

Here's hoping that if Israel uses a nuke that Iran successfully destroys Israel's nuclear and desalination plants.

We get it. You're heavily invested in oil & gas stocks lol. Should have bought futures.

#72 | Posted by sitzkrieg

Soon, the magat scum like you will be whining about their egg investments due to inflation.

I'll do this for you. Let me summon all my sympathy for 17% of Qatari LNG exports being temporarily interrupted.
Speaking of Qatar, whatever happened to them expelling the Hamas leadership? "It's complicated".

#73 | Posted by sitzkrieg

I don't give a flying ----.

Why do you support a genocidal maniac?

Let me guess, I'm antisemitic for pointing out that fact.

The premise underpinning those questions is stupid. You are making predictions. None of which are even remotely likely to happen. You have a history of apocalyptic predictions that never even come close to materializing.

#80 | Posted by BellRinger

It is already happening dumbass

Oil up 50%

China is stopping exporting of fertilizer increasing the world wide loss in coming food production.

And Piggy is not 1 step closer to opening the strait.

Maybe you could explain to us TDS suffers how Iran will open the strait based on all of this bombing?

" Iran wasn't pursing a nuke"
Barack Obama would like a word.

#82 | Posted by BellRinger

They weren't that is why Iran agreed to allow inspectors to confirm their ongoing commitment to that.

One thing is guaranteed, Iran WILL be pursuing nukes now.

Genocidal.
Once again Twoothy using words that he has no idea of the actual definition.

#83 | Posted by BellRinger

Sure, dumbass, explain again your metric. Population increase from 2000 to 2026, even though the genocide started and evolved with Israel's response to October 7

You're a ------- idiot lying troll

Here is a simple question.

Is Iran's closing of the Strait of Hormuz causing significant damage to world economies?

Even broader terms, is the War on Iran causing significant damage to world economies?

Can you honestly answer those questions?

Here's another question.

What are America's goals in the war on Iran?

They already suffered a major setback months ago. A number of their key scientists were killed. Good luck finding replacements willing to put their lives at risk. They need a lot of money and are almost having to start over from scratch. And prior to that strike several months ago they were actively pursuing nukes.

#90 | Posted by BellRinger a

No, they weren't per Tulsi Gabbard and the guy who quit yesterday. You are simply lying, no surprise there.

BTW Iran has 335,000 STEM graduates per year, so

" Sure, dumbass, explain again your metric. Population increase from 2000 to 2026, even though the genocide started and evolved with Israel's response to October 7"
Oh, so now: war=genocide.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

#92 | Posted by BellRinger a

No troll, war is NOT genocide. Israel's genocide is genocide

you know the collective punishment, forced famine, forced relocation, destruction of homes, destruction of infrastructure, restriction on food and medicine, land theft, mass incarceration.

You know, genocide stuff

Stuff the Israeli government acknowledges doing

You've been told that. You lie.

I'm a borderline Hall of Fame troll, Alexandrite. I easily elicit multiple responses with a single post. And it doesn't take any effort.
#27 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-04-06 05:42 PM

But that is who you are, a soulless nihilistic troll.

Scum of the earth.

Reminder jeff, NO ONE around here has ANY respect for you.

Iran has a stem graduate rate of 360 graduates per 100,000 population

America has a stem graduate rate of 205 graduates per 100,000 population

Jeff is an ignorant turd

I'm a borderline Hall of Fame troll, Alexandrite. I easily elicit multiple responses with a single post. And it doesn't take any effort.
#27 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-04-06 05:42 PM

Look at the loser claim victory

Now run away ----

You can tell jeff is losing the debate because he refuses to answer questions and tries to insult me and, well, he always loses, so there is that

Iran is NOT what propaganda says they are

While certainly repressive, they are no worse than many other ME countries and much of that repression comes from reaction to sanctions and ostracizing from the world

Iran and it's governance, while certainly religious, is also highly rational.

Iran is primarily Shia and does not have the suicidal end of times beliefs that the radical sunni/wahabbi muslims do.

America would be far better off if we had spent the last 47 years trying to forge relations with Iran instead of well what we have been doing. ---- we have good relations with Viet Nam

"land theft"
LOL

#105 | Posted by BellRinger at

Only an ignorant ---- would laugh at that given the West Bank and Syria and Gaza and now South Lebanon, but you do you.

No, you stupid ---- I insult you because you are a lying piece of ---- troll, but I ALSO defend all of my arguments

YOU troll, cause you're a ----

the measure is not the amount of insults dumbass; the measure is the argument made and it's supporting evidence.

You post troll ---- then insult when called on it

Cause you are a ---- troll

Self-admitted ---- troll.

Now declare victory and piss off ----

Another day of mostly one sided strikes to no useful end awaits us.

#122 | Posted by sitzkrieg

FTFY

Trump calls NATO allies cowards' over reluctance to join Iran war
The US president has lashed out at fellow members of the NATO military alliance, saying they are "cowards" for failing to join the Iran war or deploying forces to help secure the Strait of Hormuz.

"Without the U.S.A., NATO IS A PAPER TIGER!" Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform. "They didn't want to join the fight to stop a Nuclear Powered Iran."

He added: "Now that fight is Militarily WON, with very little danger for them, they complain about the high oil prices they are forced to pay, but don't want to help open the Strait of Hormuz, a simple military maneuver that is the single reason for the high oil prices."

"So easy for them to do, with so little risk. COWARDS, and we will REMEMBER!," Trump said.

This is obviously not the sign of a madman.