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Tuesday, May 05, 2026

Conservative broadcaster Ben Ferguson drew criticism from his fellow CNN panelists when he said April 27 that more conservatives will be killed "if the Democratic Party doesn't wake up and realize that words had meaning and they light the fuse." "Twenty-five percent of the Democratic Party believes that political violence is appropriate," Ferguson said.

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The Marquette poll found fully one-quarter of self-described "very liberal" respondents agreed that it is "justified for Americans today to resort to violence in order to achieve political goals." "Very conservative" respondents agreed at a lower rate, 10%.

Since 2021, Democrats have become more comfortable with political violence while Republicans have become less comfortable, according to Public Religion Research Institute polling.

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I'd beat the ---- out of you, you coward.

#1 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-05-05 03:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I figured this would be a pedoringer thread.

#2 | Posted by jpw at 2026-05-05 03:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

It's always hilarious when the people who for decades commit by far the most Domestic Terrorism in this country, according to the FBI and DHS, Rwing white nationalists... try to blame the violence on Dems.

Funny and stupid.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-05 03:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Who will fill this empty box next?

#4 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2026-05-05 03:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Who will fill this empty box next?

#4 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS

BOAZ V1 & V2

#5 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-05-05 04:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

BOAZ without white makeup:

#6 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-05-05 04:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 5

I think we need to build a small, 1 table ballroom for each and every MAGA wuss that worries about reaping the bitter harvest from the seeds their cult leader has sown.

And then go to the Dollar Tree and buy a bunch of flimsy, shiny ---- to decorate each one.

#7 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2026-05-05 05:06 PM | Reply

I'd beat the ---- out of you, you coward.

#1 | Posted by LegallyYourDead

Name the time and place, bitch.

#8 | Posted by boazreborn at 2026-05-05 06:53 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

And this is a foot thread. Stop spamming the thread. Stay on topic.

Rcade used to ban people for that.

#9 | Posted by boazreborn at 2026-05-05 06:57 PM | Reply

What's comrade Boazo's opinion of the violence of his peeps on January 6th

#10 | Posted by a_monson at 2026-05-05 06:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#9

Hey idiot, look at the ------- headline. You get confused on who you're supposed to be?

#11 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-05-05 08:52 PM | Reply

Two Words.....

Timothy McVeigh.

Terry Nichols.

267 dead Children and Adults.

GTFOH with this Nonsense.

#12 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-05-05 09:58 PM | Reply

Looks like I ran off that fake-ass mother ------- ----- coward.

#13 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2026-05-05 10:02 PM | Reply

If you're a conservative male and-------- nightly to the idea that the application of violence is the only solution to a vast majority of society's ills then it's fairly easy for you to join the US military and fulfill your murderous fantasies.

So if you look at RamBOZO's question objectively and take the above fact into consideration, right wingers perpetrate the vast majority of violent acts of social and political violence.

A left-wing ideologue living in his mother's basement who has memorized Carlos the Jackal's biography could only dream of committing the level of violence as his counterparts on the other end of the political spectrum.

#14 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2026-05-06 10:16 AM | Reply

The Trump administration is using ICE to murder Americans on our own streets and is carrying out murders in international waters and expects the world to take the word of this lying White House that they are running drugs (as if that is justification for murder).

I'm not saying I support political violence. I'm just saying MAGATS look like the disingenuous --------- that they are when they fake surprise after people push back against murderous fascists.

#15 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2026-05-06 10:24 AM | Reply

I didn't read anywhere that democrats are committing more political violence.

This is about democrats accepting political violence. Approving it.

Not committing it.

Now that we've dispensed with the lack of reading comprehension issues.....let's move onto what was actually asserted.

Are democrats more accepting of political violence?

Here is my 2 cents.....I don't give a ---- what they accept. They aren't the ones committing it and it's nothing but an accusation anyway.

Everything else is crap

#16 | Posted by eberly at 2026-05-06 10:33 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2


It's always hilarious when the people who for decades commit by far the most Domestic Terrorism in this country, according to the FBI and DHS, Rwing white nationalists... try to blame the violence on Dems.

I didn't read anywhere that democrats are committing more political violence.

Depends upon who makes the graph as to where the cutoff is, and whats included.

For instance
Skin head in prison commits a crime - RightWing violence.
Go back to the 1970's and its 1000s of bombings by left wing activists.

Its toss up, but overall the language of the lefts main characters is "violence", and thus its acceptance. Todays left even accepts/defends illegal immigrant violence against citizens with aplomb.

Also basic definitions would indicate this is true, "progressives" want change (how would that come about?), and "Conservatives" don't, why would they need violence to keep things the same?

#17 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-05-06 10:45 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Are democrats more accepting of political violence?"

Whether you commit it or support, elevate and worship those committing it, you accept it and approve of it, --------.

#18 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2026-05-06 10:49 AM | Reply

Here is my 2 cents.....I don't give a ---- what they accept. They aren't the ones committing it and it's nothing but an accusation anyway.

Its only a matter of time. The idea that its acceptable by a large percentage then eventually it becomes defendable and actionable, see the 1960's. Even for instance nonviolent campaigns that mobilize at least ~4% of a population have been successful in changing or overthrowing governments. Actual violence? much less.

If the latest attempts on Trump's life don't give you pause, nothing will.

#19 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-05-06 10:50 AM | Reply


Whether you commit it or support, elevate and worship those committing it, you accept it and approve of it,
#18 | POSTED BY NERFHERDER

This is the sort of response supposed intellectuals claim is "intellectual"

#20 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-05-06 10:52 AM | Reply

Conservatives want to change things back to the way they Used to be not keep things the same.

Example; The recent SCOTUS decision on voting rights and minority districts. They want to Remove existing protections claiming Racism is "Over".

Or the Recent Wetlands Decision that opens up Non Riverine Wetlands to Destruction. They stripped Existing protections to make Development easier.

This is not keeping things the same.

It's a Radical change in direction accomplished by Judicial Fiat.

The very thing Conservatives used to cry about as "So Unfair". Judicial Activism.

Hypocrisy comes easy to these -----.

#21 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2026-05-06 10:54 AM | Reply

- Its only a matter of time.

Yeah! Rwingers have created the vast majority of Domestic Terrorism for decades in this country according to the FBI and DHS, but you just wait! Dems will do the same. Some day. Maybe.

- the latest attempts on Trump's life

What a shame that rwingers are such terrible shots, eh? And this last incident has all along been said by Law Enforcement to have targeted Cabinet Members not Dirty John Trump.

But keep posting, 1Nut. You may eventually get at least one thing right... aw, who am I kidding?

#22 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-06 10:56 AM | Reply

"We see, therefore, that war is not merely a political act, but also a real political instrument, a continuation of political commerce, a carrying out of the same by other means."
-Clausewitz

Those who support or have supported America's endless series of foreign wars over the past 75+ years have, in effect, accepted the use of mass violence as a means to achieve political ends.

And by and large those supporters are from the right-side of the political spectrum.

#23 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2026-05-06 11:05 AM | Reply

-Whether you commit it or support, elevate and worship those committing it, you accept it and approve of it, --------.

why didn't you just save me the time of reading your nonsense and just call me a -------- and be done with it?

It's not like you have anything else to offer.

-If the latest attempts on Trump's life don't give you pause, nothing will.

not sure what my "pause" matters to anyone. There are so many unanswered questions regarding these attempts on his life that I don't know what to think.

I could join the club of those who need to believe it's all staged. No thanks.

I could join the club of those who see it as out of control political violence that supported and carried out by the Democratic Party. No thanks.

#24 | Posted by eberly at 2026-05-06 11:08 AM | Reply

"why didn't you just save me the time of reading"

If the world really did revolve around you like you think it does, I might have.

#25 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2026-05-06 11:12 AM | Reply

25

LOL

#26 | Posted by eberly at 2026-05-06 11:18 AM | Reply

Rcade used to ban people for that.

Posted by boazreborn

You've been banned. So, Why TF have you come back under a different though similar name?

#27 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2026-05-06 11:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

There's a few on here that would def like to hang out with this guy and have a beer...

www.nbcnews.com

#28 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-05-06 11:53 AM | Reply

Thread title: "Are Democrats more accepting of Political Violence?"

one of the first comments by a far left dem: "I'd beat the ---- out of you, you coward."

Pretty much sums it up.

#29 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2026-05-06 11:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

One Comment out of 30 sums it up?

Cool. Now we can forget the real world stats about Rwing Domestic Terrorism, eh?

#30 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-06 11:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"One Comment out of 30 sums it up?"

Don't push your luck-- for the average MAGAt usually ZERO comments out of 30 sum it up.

#31 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2026-05-06 11:58 AM | Reply

Corky, the problem with that is this.

Here is a made up example that is a rough analog.

If we look at the past 15 years and accept for arguments sake that the Rwing was the driver of accepting or enacting violence to reach political ends, but it's shifted to the left over the past 5...

I'm not going to care about the first 10. In the now, it's the left, and we need realize and address it. It wasn't right 10 years ago, and it's not right now. Whataboutism isn't going to improve the situation, and letting it continue will definitely get us to a worse place. If this has all been a back and forth wave, it feels as though that wave amplitude is increasing. At some point something will snap. For the good of all of us, ignoring it now because it's this teams turn to do it can't be acceptable.

#32 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2026-05-06 12:02 PM | Reply | Funny: 6

#17 | Posted by oneironaut

Why does this stupid pile of s*&^ even both posting this nonsense?

#33 | Posted by jpw at 2026-05-06 12:06 PM | Reply

#32 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2026-05-06 12:02 PM | Reply | Flag:

You should ask Corky what Maxine Waters and Heels-up Harris were telling the BLM terrorists while they were burning down US cities..

#34 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-05-06 12:07 PM | Reply

but it's shifted to the left over the past 5...
#32 | POSTED BY KWRX25

I'd ask what you're actually talking about.

But you never provide examples for your assertions.

You just post bullshht and lies.

#35 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-06 12:08 PM | Reply

Maxine Waters and Heels-up Harris
#34 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTURDS

Black Women scare the shht out of you.

Women in general you're not too fond of.

But black women you've only seen on the TV and in the magazines.

You'd fall over and piss yourself if you ever saw one in real life.

#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-06 12:10 PM | Reply

If the latest attempts on Trump's life don't give you pause, nothing will.

#19 | Posted by oneironaut

The only thing that gives me pause is the fact that we have a government staging assassination attempts.

And misinfo spreading s*&^heaps like you trying to sell it.

#37 | Posted by jpw at 2026-05-06 12:14 PM | Reply

Facts were posted on this thread already Clown, I shouldn't have to and won't summarize the entire thread on each post I make.

But... recent polls showing a marked difference in the percentage of people who are accepting of political violence, and I'll add a cnn link below this that basically speaks to Corky's point. Yes the right owned this perception in the past, but as of more recently the left has erased that margin, making them the driver of the violence as of late.

www.cnn.com

So let's see you call this -------- and lies. You know it's okay to support a "team" and still acknowledge if that team has a problem right? It doesn't have to be 100% blind allegiance.

#38 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2026-05-06 12:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

If the latest attempts on Trump's life don't give you pause, nothing will.
#19 | POSTED BY ONETRUMPER

You mean the one that's been completely debunked as absolute bullshht?

It makes sense you'd bring that up.

#39 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-06 12:19 PM | Reply

Here is a made up example that is a rough analog.

Rough? Can you describe something that's entirely incorrect and not comparable at all as "rough"?

'I know you asked for a BMW, but please consider this roughly the same Toyota Yaris as an option...'

#40 | Posted by jpw at 2026-05-06 12:19 PM | Reply

while they were burning down US cities..

#34 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Wow. US cities were burned down and it wasn't even on the news!?!?! Inconceivable!

Idiot.

#41 | Posted by jpw at 2026-05-06 12:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

-Wkwrx25P in Cincinnati

"As of early 2026, the primary domestic terrorism threat in the U.S. stems from lone offenders or small cells motivated by white supremacist, anti-government, or anti-authority ideologies.

While right-wing extremism has historically dominated, recent data indicates an increase in incidents from left-wing extremists."

Key Data Trends (2024-2026)

Primary Perpetrators: Racially- or ethnically-motivated violent extremists (specifically white supremacists) have been responsible for the most lethal attacks."

www.google.com

There has been some increase from the Left in response to Trump's Fascism, but you guys are still the Champs.

#42 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-06 12:22 PM | Reply

Facts were posted on this thread already Clown

No they weren't of you would have pointed them out.

recent polls showing ...
#38 | POSTED BY KWRX25

So you have zero examples of the left engaging in political violence.

Like I said. You post nothing but lie and bullshht.

You're a worthless poster.

You're a liar.

#43 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-06 12:22 PM | Reply

Yes the right owned this perception in the past, but as of more recently the left has erased that margin, making them the driver of the violence as of late.

No, dumba&&, they haven't. You are so desperate to try and push the narrative that left wing violence dominates, even making patently absurd leaps like the one above.

#44 | Posted by jpw at 2026-05-06 12:23 PM | Reply

Pretty sure what idiots are complaining about is the fact that the left is protesting and push pushing back against ICE.

They're calling that "politically motivated violence".

Meanwhile, the right is blowing up Planned Parenthood, shooting up schools, threatening school teachers, murdering politicians, and acting like none of that matters.

#45 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-06 12:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

threatening school teachers

Oh please. Don't you remember how people like pedoringer responded to parents threatening teachers and school board members during COVID? They called efforts by federal law enforcement to cooperate with local law enforcement to investigate these occurrences as government overreach and "political targeting" of conservatives for simply expressing their 1A rights.

#46 | Posted by jpw at 2026-05-06 12:30 PM | Reply

-I'm not going to care about the first 10. In the now, it's the left, and we need realize and address it.

Address it how?

The left wants 1 thing.....the death and/or removal from office of Trump.

Other than that, what would be given in exchange for less political violence?

#47 | Posted by eberly at 2026-05-06 12:34 PM | Reply

I definitely remember.

He commended efforts by idiotic parents to form a mob and attack the PTA meeting.

All because some high school boy kissed a high school girl in the girls bathroom.

He was demanding the boy get arrested and sent to prison for life.

#48 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-06 12:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The left wants 1 thing.....the death and/or removal from office of Trump.

Nope.

What the left really wants is to see Trump held accountable for all his fraud and crimes and locked away in prison for the rest of his life.

That would be the most satisfying consequence for the entire Trump family.

#49 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-06 12:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

what would be given in exchange for less political violence?
#47 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Step one is to identify what this so called "political violence" is.

I asked KWRX to provide an example. So he provided an opinion poll.

Maybe someone else with a better understanding of what they're talking about could provide actual examples.

Hell, I literally provided the only answer I can think of, protesting against ICE.

Anyone else?

#50 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-06 12:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Black Women scare the shht out of you.

Women in general you're not too fond of.

But black women you've only seen on the TV and in the magazines.

You'd fall over and piss yourself if you ever saw one in real life.

#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-06 12:10 PM | Reply | Flag:

First of all, Kammy ain't black.

Secondly, If I woke up and the first thing I was was Maxine's face, you damn right it would be scary.

I don't have any issues with black people, but I did take note when them two mentioned above started chimpin' out during the riots telling rioters they needed to do more.

#51 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2026-05-06 01:01 PM | Reply

-That would be the most satisfying consequence for the entire Trump family.

That would be icing on the cake. But the cake is resigning or dropping dead. We'll take it.

Since at least the OKC bombing, the right has held the title of the more politically violent.

But the accusation hasn't mattered much. The GOP still wins elections and controls government everywhere.

So....keep that in mind when being on the other side of the finger.....it doesn't matter much on election day.

#52 | Posted by eberly at 2026-05-06 01:01 PM | Reply

-I asked KWRX to provide an example. So he provided an opinion poll.

Opinion polls are used as evidence all the time here.

It's nothing to worry about.

#53 | Posted by eberly at 2026-05-06 01:02 PM | Reply

#32 Here's a made up example ...

A made up lie?

#54 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-06 01:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"But... recent polls showing a marked difference in the percentage of people who are accepting of political violence"

Hey KWRX25.

You are so dumb, you can't figure out that what ICE is doing, rounding up people and sending them to camos, is political violence.

ICE mass detention is Political violence.

All Republicans support it.

You don't care.

#55 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-06 01:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Meanwhile, the right is blowing up Planned Parenthood, shooting up schools, threatening school teachers, murdering politicians, and acting like none of that matters.
#45 | Posted by ClownShack

Republicans here including Eberly can't understand that Trump's War with Iran is Politically Motivated Violence.

That idea has never occurred to them.

#56 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-06 01:22 PM | Reply

Two examples, the reactions to the killing of Charlie Kirk, and the CEO of United Health.

Not the actions, the celebrations.

#57 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2026-05-06 01:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump's War with Iran is Politically Motivated Violence.

Fact.

#58 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-06 01:50 PM | Reply

the reactions to the killing of Charlie Kirk,

Agreed, Erika Kirk doing backflips during Magapalooza was a bit overboard.

#59 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-06 01:54 PM | Reply

CEO of United Health

Free Luigi!

#60 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-06 01:55 PM | Reply

No one celebrated the death of Charlie Kirk more than Trump and Netanyahu.

#61 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-06 02:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What the left really wants is to see Trump held accountable for all his fraud and crimes and locked away in prison for the rest of his life.
That would be the most satisfying consequence for the entire Trump family.

#49 | Posted by ClownShack

Bingo. The right just can't stop with the accusations as admissions, even projecting their own violent tendencies onto "the left."

Meanwhile, the right is, as usual, obtuse to the notion that their standing in the way of Trump receiving his right consequences for his life of crime and unethical behavior reflects poorly on them and is a significant contributor to the feelings of revulsion and disgust many of us feel towards them.

#62 | Posted by jpw at 2026-05-06 02:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"I love that ---- CEOs are ---- afraid right now. You should be! By and large, you're all a bunch of selfish, greedy, ---- pieces of s---, and a lot of you are mass murderers. You just don't pull the trigger. That's why it looks clean"

- Bill Burr

#63 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-06 02:18 PM | Reply

Two examples, the reactions to the killing of Charlie Kirk, and the CEO of United Health.
Not the actions, the celebrations.

#57 | Posted by kwrx25

Both of which came from a minority of those deemed "left."

Funny, though, that in order to see what you want to see you're switching from actual violence to perceptions of "celebrations."

I guess you will take that Toyota Yaris as a "rough" BMW...

#64 | Posted by jpw at 2026-05-06 02:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

The thread is directly related to polls of both parties being asked if they approve of violence for political means. The percentages for both parties was not the majority, for either side. The lefts numbers were larger though, and had increased.

That is the topic, I know sticking to a topic is rare here, but that's what I was doing.

#65 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2026-05-06 03:25 PM | Reply

"The thread is directly related to polls of both parties being asked if they approve of violence for political means."

Are you capable of entertaining the concept of fighting fire with fire, that the numbers on the left are a reflection of and a reaction to all the political violence Republicans have unleashed in Trump's second term?

Maybe discuss the topic a little bit. Is that in your wheelhouse?

Two examples, the reactions to the killing of Charlie Kirk, and the CEO of United Health.
Not the actions, the celebrations.
#57 | Posted by kwrx25

You seem to want to judge the reactions, without ever mentioning the actors being reacted to.
Without contextualizing the reactions in the milieu of the life's work of a CEO who let people die for profit. A hate preacher who said gun murders are a fair price to pay for living in America.

Charlie Kirk preached political violence.
Being happy he's dead isn't preaching political violence.
It's being happy a preacher of political violence is dead.
That's pretty much the opposite of endorsing political violence.

I'm not aware of anyone on the Left who said Charlie Kirk needs to be murdered. It was Nick Fuentes who said that. And that's what Trump says about his political opponents too. Charlie Kirk was a a political opponent of Trump on both the Epstein Files and the Gaza Ethnic Cleansing.
What we on the left said, and still say, is that by Charlie Kirk's beliefs, Charlie Kirk believes Charlie Kirk's murder was justified.
If you can't understand that, you're unfathomably stupid and I'll just stop wasting my time on you. Deal?

#66 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-06 03:38 PM | Reply

" The lefts numbers were larger though, and had increased."

You were asked about the incidents.

If you want to complain about changing the subject, start with your mirror.

Meanwhile, do you have links to increased leftist violence?

#67 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-06 03:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"The thread is directly related to polls of both parties being asked if they approve of violence for political means"

So why do you think right-wingers are so tolerant of all the political violence Rpubilcans are doing right now, even as they say to the pollsters they don't approve of political violence.

Are they lying?
Do they not understand it's political violence when their side does it?

You're a right winger. What's your answer? Why are you so tolerant of all this violence, why do you not see the kiliings of Goode and especially Pretti as creeping fascism? Or maybe it's because you do approve of political violence. You do approve of what the UnitedHealth CEO does to maximize profits, right?

#68 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-06 03:43 PM | Reply

Meanwhile, do you have links to increased leftist violence?
#67 | Posted by Danforth

Best he can do is leftists reacting to right-wingers getting murdered.
It should go without saying: None of the murders were done by leftists.

There's certainly been a few instances of what's portrayed as "leftist" violence targeting ICE and DHS. An easily understandable reaction to the state-sponsored right-wing violence that's defined Trump's domestic legacy.

The violence will be more bipartisan when the energy and food shortages really kick in.

#69 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-06 03:52 PM | Reply

"Twenty-five percent of the Democratic Party believes that political violence is appropriate,"

This is why I either laugh at or dismiss polls such as this. There is way more to the story.

But for most folks, if it tells you what you want to hear, then go with it. If it's absolutely something you're aghast at...then pretend you didn't see it and/or obfuscate.

I think it might be correct....but it's the accusation that matters to the sychophants....not the accuracy.

-Both of which came from a minority of those deemed "left."

that's all you need in order to have fun with this. A vocal minority speaks for the majority. I've seen that asserted here many many times.

#70 | Posted by eberly at 2026-05-06 04:18 PM | Reply

The lefts numbers were larger though, and had increased.
That is the topic, I know sticking to a topic is rare here, but that's what I was doing.

#65 | Posted by kwrx25

Except the data is a bit all over and doesn't really add up to me.

79 to 91% are against political violence. Automatically, we're talking about small minorities.

One poll drives the appearance of the left being more open to violence (Marquette) while the other two are within margins.

The real money graph is one you're apparently ignoring, the one where we see 27-35% of Repubs supported violence from March '21 through Sep '24. Now I'm sure it's pure coincidence that this was during Biden's term and the numbers only dropped to be comparable to the left's numbers once Trump won the election...right?

Even by your own thoughts your narrative is incorrect.

#71 | Posted by jpw at 2026-05-06 04:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I figured this would be a pedoringer thread.
#2 | POSTED BY JPW

Are you assuming they're different people?

BullBringer admitted his account was a shared account.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out it is much the same with the "Boazreborn" account.

You know how I know it's not the real Boaz? He only posted threads from DailyMail.uk.

#72 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-06 04:30 PM | Reply

that's all you need in order to have fun with this. A vocal minority speaks for the majority. I've seen that asserted here many many times.
#70 | Posted by eberly

They don't speak for the majority; they just give the opposition something to glom on to to broadbrush the other side with.

Which is why actual actions matter when it comes to this conversation. Certainly far more so than polls.

#73 | Posted by jpw at 2026-05-06 04:32 PM | Reply

79 to 91% are against political violence.
#71 | Posted by jpw

No they aren't.
Not really.
Ask those same people if they supported World War Two or the American Revolution.
Ask them if they Support The Troops and Thank Them For Their Service.
Ask them if the military is an institution of political violence
Ask them if the police is an institution of political violence.

#74 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-06 04:39 PM | Reply

"Twenty-five percent of the Democratic Party believes that political violence is appropriate"

Look, Ma!
It's the poll numbers Emperor Hirohito used to decide we wouldn't fight back after he bombed Pearl Harbor!

#75 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-06 04:43 PM | Reply

Rwingers are Shocked!

Shocked! I tells ya, that some on the Left are for fighting back against Herr Drumpf's Corrupt Fascist Takeover of America!

Why would ANYONE oppose Hair Fuehrer?

Hopefully the Dope in Chief gets the same treatment his hero Oban got in Hungary last month in the coming BLUE WAVE.

#76 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-06 04:55 PM | Reply

when violence is promoted repeatedly daily from the news to democrat politicians

to blue haired UGLY WHITE GUILT BROADS....idiot children who seem to always have a ring

through their nose AND VIRTUALLY ALWAYS screaming with charles Manson eyes..

calling half the country.......well YOU PEOPLE HERE know what they're called because

YOU'RE GUILTY TOO !!.

--this is not a both sides issue....that's what dumb phk crooks like pansy arse tampon

Tim say to keep the truth from coming out.

the bullets fly from the left.....except if a punk tries to come through my locked

door...then they'll fly straight and true ending with an empty magazine.

#77 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2026-05-06 06:55 PM | Reply

who bombed tesla after the owner was called a nazi ?

who has had attempts at his life three time after years of being called hitler etc.

I could go on and on but since "you people" are prime examples, there's no need.

------IF and WHEN the violence comes from the right.....you'll know it....trust me.

#78 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2026-05-06 06:58 PM | Reply

PERFECT EXAMPLE......Leftist judge apologized THREE TIMES...to the turd who tried to kill Trump
at the WH dinner for his being in jail .

the guy who set the fire in California....that's the one that the mayor and newsome
chose to allow instead of proper maintenance of a reservoir...was enamored
with the coward who shot the United health care ceo in the back...

none of those are maga....those are leftist fanatics....killers / murderers and

reasons why other leftist kill....those people are you.

#79 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2026-05-06 07:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Leftist judge apologized THREE TIMES."

That never happened.

You're welcome, failed high school "band" teacher.

#80 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-06 07:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Great discussion, KWRX25.

#81 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-06 08:36 PM | Reply

Shocked! I tells ya, that some on the Left are for fighting back against Herr Drumpf's Corrupt Fascist Takeover of America!

Is that why assaults against U.S. Jews are at a 46-year high? Because of Trump?


"Leftist judge apologized THREE TIMES."
That never happened.

He did say "I'm sorry", then said "Whatever you've been through, I apologize for the prior week", the concern was that he was being treated like grand ma from Jan6th.

#82 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-05-06 08:59 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

No they aren't.
#74 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Thats just because you aren't.

#83 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-05-06 09:00 PM | Reply

Is that why assaults against U.S. Jews are at a 46-year high? Because of Trump?

You gotta give Netanyahu some credit.

#84 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-06 09:03 PM | Reply

-They don't speak for the majority; they just give the opposition something to glom on to to broadbrush the other side with.

Exactly. But there is still the fun of accusing everyone on the other side of being a racist, a nazi, or a pedophile or in this case....a jubilant celebrant and supporter of political violence.

It's only the 7,000th time I've seen it done here over the past 20 years.


#85 | Posted by eberly at 2026-05-06 09:04 PM | Reply

the turd who tried to kill Trump

Good reminder for you all to get colonoscopies and cancer screenings regularly.

#86 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-06 09:05 PM | Reply

"other side"

both sides, then?

Got it.

#87 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-06 09:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No one wants Trump dead more than Melania.

#88 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-06 09:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Real political violence, circa 2026 ...

#89 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-06 09:27 PM | Reply

"Twenty-five percent of the Democratic Party believes that political violence is appropriate," Ferguson said."

I wonder what effect recent Republican political violence contributed to the percentage.

#90 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-06 09:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Is that why assaults against U.S. Jews are at a 46-year high? Because of Trump?"

I blame those individuals who insist upon conflating all Jews with the ethnofascist Zionist psychopaths in Israel currently perpetrating genocide.

#91 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2026-05-06 10:16 PM | Reply

#91 "I blame those individuals who insist upon conflating all Jews with the ethnofascist Zionist psychopaths in Israel currently perpetrating genocide."

Yep.

Exactly like blaming those individuals who insist upon conflating all Americans with the ethnofascist MAGA psychopaths in Washington DC currently letting Bibi continue his perpetrating genocide in Gaza.

#92 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-06 10:27 PM | Reply

The difference being that the vast majority of those most vocal in conflating all Jews with ethnofascist Zionism (and vice-versa) are those who actually support ethnofascist Zionism.

How antisemitic of them.

#93 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2026-05-06 10:42 PM | Reply

"Twenty-five percent of the Democratic Party believes that political violence is appropriate"

The vast majority of Americans who support bombing brown people overseas in order to achieve political aims never actually had a bomb dropped within the vicinity of their own homes.

Funny how that works!

#94 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2026-05-06 10:45 PM | Reply

none of those are maga....those are leftist fanatics....killers / murderers and

reasons why other leftist kill....those people are you.

#79 | Posted by shrimptacodan

This stupid pile of s*&^ struggled to come up with three examples. Meanwhile, we have a single event on a single day that gives us thousands - January 6.

So show it up your a&&, pedosupporterdan.

#95 | Posted by jpw at 2026-05-06 11:11 PM | Reply

Good reminder for you all to get colonoscopies and cancer screenings regularly.

#86 | Posted by ClownShack

I wish I could get the prep solution at least once a month.

It wasn't nearly as bad as I was told (except the fake lemon flavor and extreme saltiness) but I felt great for like 3 weeks afterwards.

#96 | Posted by jpw at 2026-05-06 11:14 PM | Reply

I wish I could get the prep solution at least once a month.

You are a sick man. I'm due for the 5 year dose.

#97 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-05-06 11:19 PM | Reply

I dunno man. Afterwards, I felt like the Red Bull guy, just without the s*&^ty energy drink.

#98 | Posted by jpw at 2026-05-07 12:24 AM | Reply

Are Negroes more accepting of violence?

#99 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-07 02:00 AM | Reply

That drink was gross.

I'm glad you had a positive reaction. But drinking that stuff was gross.

My step mom said she felt good afterwards as well.

#100 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-07 02:17 AM | Reply

That drink was gross.

Without a doubt. Volume. Pace. Saltiness. Fake flavor. Mine, at least, was warm IIRC.

But yeah...I felt great after. I'd opine on whether it was the flush or the tube up my butt, but that might send lfthndcuck to places he'd never recover from.

#101 | Posted by jpw at 2026-05-07 02:28 AM | Reply

Saltiness. Fake flavor. Mine

There was also a weird viscosity to it too.

Like saliva.

Like I was drinking a bottle of salty, fake lemon spit.

And I know people who are really into spit.

Not me as much, as I prefer the normal amount of spit.

#102 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-07 02:34 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

reasons why other leftist kill....those people are you.

#79 | Posted by shrimptacodan

Amazing how Liberal snowflakes became hardened terrorists practically overnight!

Yup. We are coming for you!

You personally should Be Afraid. Be very very afraid! You will soon have to return to hide under Rock from which you came.

Because ... Accountability is coming.

#103 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-05-07 10:18 AM | Reply

#81, I'm assuming was sarcastic since I hadn't responded.

work issues. haven't been able to catch up on this thread.

#104 | Posted by kwrx25 at 2026-05-07 10:56 AM | Reply

I accept that violence begets more violence.

As a liberal I do not approve of political violence or violence of any kind.

As a Marine I also realize much blood has already been spilt and more blood will be spilt on our the way to a more perfect Union.

Some of was my friends. Some of it was mine. And I still have some more blood left to give for this country.

If necessary.

#105 | Posted by donnerboy at 2026-05-07 11:20 AM | Reply

Accepting my ---!

They're promoting it now.

Their leaders are even calling for it. They want to stay in power and get rich in the process.

I think Democrats have become so desperate and see they are losing the war to normal people, their heads are about to explode.

They're in denial and can't understand why their exception moral values and wisdom aren't pulling in more people who want to be enlightened.

Democrats are mostly attracting people who want more free stuff and don't want to work or be personally accountable.

Read this site for a while.

You'll see it.

#106 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 03:10 PM | Reply

-- Bill Johnson, signed Laura

Shut up Bill Johnson, signed by any one of some posters here.

Go die...I've seen that before.

#107 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 03:13 PM | Reply

They're promoting it now.
#106 | Posted by BillJohnson

Meanwhile, back in reality;
Republicans are doing it now.

#108 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-07 03:15 PM | Reply

#107 And now, your award for bravery, bj boi:

You're welcome.

#109 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-07 03:19 PM | Reply

Republicans are literally murdering Democratic politicians while crying about how mean Democrats are.

ICE is arresting and killing Americans while Republicans cry about Democrats protesting Trumps private Gestapo.

Everything Trump post and says is divisive hateful rhetoric meant to further separate Americans from one another and Republicans cry about comedians talking out against Trump.

The Republican Party is a worthless cult

#110 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-07 03:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Also in reality... millions of people peacefully protested in No Kings marches all around the country; record numbers turned out against the corrupt Fascism Rwingers have foisted on us all.

But they don't want to talk about, or the Fact that the still now this year, the most violent attacks are from the same rwing white nationalists that have held the Record for the Most Domestic Terror Attacks for decades now.

#111 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-07 03:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Corky,

"by far the most Domestic Terrorism in this country, according to the FBI and DHS, Rwing white nationalists"

It depends on the type of violence being discussed.

Some acts are carried out by isolated white individuals with mental illness, drug problems or dysfunctional upbringings. That exists and nobody should deny it.

But there are also many other forms of violence, extremism and politically motivated attacks that people conveniently minimize or ignore because they don't fit the preferred narrative.

That's the problem with reducing a complicated issue into a single political talking point.

It frames the conversation in a way that leaves out everything people don't want to discuss.

#112 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 03:40 PM | Reply

#112 bj boi states, with a straight face, I presume: "It depends on the type of violence being discussed."

Ah, the "type of violence", as you put it, has very little meaning to the victims of said violence.

Is this part of your "Christian" theology?

#113 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-07 03:43 PM | Reply

Corky,

Obviously, you are fixated which makes your opinions biased and not to be taken seriously.

You don't want to discuss anything.

You just want to blame.

#114 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 03:44 PM | Reply

Fiend,

You were on my time out list but I took you off.

Attacking my family or my religious beliefs, things I hold dear, gets you back on.

#115 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 03:47 PM | Reply

Fiends,

btw...you totally distorted what I wrote anyway...and then insulted my Christian beliefs.

#116 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 03:51 PM | Reply

#115 Is this part of the "turn the other cheek" routine I've heard about?

Oh, and as for things you hold dear, I notice how your integrity isn't one of those things.

Noted.

Oh, and just a bit of advice:

Don't want people "attacking" your "family" or "religious" beliefs, well then, here's a dime, buy a clue...

Here's a dime, buy a clue

Never talk about your family and/or religious "beliefs" on an anonymous message board on the Internet.

Problem solved.

You're welcome.

#117 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-07 03:59 PM | Reply

I do blame you, BJ... and everyone else who decided that Dems were worse than a President who, according to his own DOJ, ordered them to Rig the Election, so at traitor to the Constitution and the People.

And who you knew was a convicted sex offender, victim defamer, and business fraud.

#118 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-07 03:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#118 Perfect ... and thank you, Corky!

#119 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-07 04:00 PM | Reply

then insulted my Christian beliefs.
#116 | POSTED BY BULLJOHNSON

You don't hold any Christian beliefs.

You're a MAGA cultist, you worships an adulterous pedophile.

#120 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-07 04:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#119

I'm just still hoping that DJT will finger-rape me, then defame me, too... so that I can then be stiffed by him for the 83 million he owes me!

I mean, with those tiny fingers, how much could it hurt?

That appears to be the Rwing excuse for his woman abusing.

#121 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-07 04:04 PM | Reply

They're promoting it now.
Their leaders are even calling for it. They want to stay in power and get rich in the process.
I think Democrats have become so desperate and see they are losing the war to normal people, their heads are about to explode.

LOL you think you're normal?

#122 | Posted by jpw at 2026-05-07 04:10 PM | Reply

Corky,

"ordered them to Rig the Election"

I don't believe anyone thought the election could realistically be overturned.

Least of not me.

And...it's wasn't so much expecting to overture the election (with what Army), as it was it was commonly believed by many people that mail-in ballots created an environment where the election results were unreliable. I'm not going any further into that.

I didn't vote for Trump based on accusations or business ethics.

I voted for Trump because Kamala was a joke (and really just a third term for Obama) or a second for Biden (no...I don't think Biden even did a first term)

Don't put out your beliefs and attribute them to me and claim I voted for Trump even though I thought like you...because I would never think like you.

#123 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 04:12 PM | Reply


You're a MAGA cultist, you worships an adulterous pedophile.
#120 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

As a Muslim, so do you....

#124 | Posted by oneironaut at 2026-05-07 04:12 PM | Reply

Jpw,

Relatively speaking, yes...conservatives are normal, liberals are not.

Don't make it about me.

#125 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 04:13 PM | Reply

Meanwhile your president is justifying his illegal war of aggression (ineptly executed) to children talking about shooting women in the forehead

Your so sick you can't even conceive how messed up your beliefs and movement is

#126 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-05-07 04:19 PM | Reply

Conservatives are the most hateful selfish people imaginable

The essence of conservative belief is selfish self interest

I've met few conservatives I would trust around my children

#127 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-05-07 04:21 PM | Reply

- I don't believe anyone thought the election could realistically be overturned.

He ordered his DOJ to send letters to States telling them they could legally change the election results; that they could change the winner from Biden to Trump.

His own DOJ testified that they threatened to quit when he did that, so he pulled back on it, and instead sent a violent mob to, for the first time ever, try to stop the Peaceful Transfer of Power in this country.

But that accurate history doesn't matter to you at all.

#128 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-07 04:23 PM | Reply

Conservatives cheered the dismantling of USAID causing untold harm through out the poorest people in the world

#129 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-05-07 04:24 PM | Reply

Bill is the worst kind of scum. A hypocritical "Christian " wanting to impose his vile beliefs on the rest of us

#130 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-05-07 04:27 PM | Reply

Corky,
"ordered them to Rig the Election"
I don't believe anyone thought the election could realistically be overturned.
Least of not me.
And...it's wasn't so much expecting to overture the election (with what Army), as it was it was commonly believed by many people that mail-in ballots created an environment where the election results were unreliable. I'm not going any further into that.
I didn't vote for Trump based on accusations or business ethics.
I voted for Trump because Kamala was a joke (and really just a third term for Obama) or a second for Biden (no...I don't think Biden even did a first term)
Don't put out your beliefs and attribute them to me and claim I voted for Trump even though I thought like you...because I would never think like you.

#123 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 04:12 PM | Reply

Whatever you say traitor to the United States of America. That's what happens when you support a traitor to the United States of America.

#131 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2026-05-07 04:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I don't believe anyone thought the election could realistically be overturned."

So the Brooks Brothers Riot and Bush v Gore never happened, in your world.

The Brooks Brothers riot was a demonstration led by Republican staffers at a meeting of election canvassers in Miami-Dade County, Florida, United States, on November 22, 2000, during a recount of votes made during the 2000 United States presidential election, with the goal of shutting down the recount. After demonstrations and acts of violence, local officials shut down the recount early.
en.wikipedia.org

#132 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-07 04:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If we look at the past 15 years and accept for arguments sake that the Rwing was the driver of accepting or enacting violence to reach political ends
#32 | Posted by kwrx25

That's not "for arguments sake."
That's the reality we live in.

Right wingers want to arm teachers.
That's accepting of violence for political ends.
You don't seem to be able to figure these simple things out.

#133 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-07 04:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As a Muslim, so do you....
#124 | POSTED BY ONETRUMPER

Who's a Muslim? You?

I'm agnostic, raised Christian.

Religion is a business used to control, manipulate and divide people.

#134 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-07 05:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

BullJohnson heard Trump raped children and he decided he's okay with it.

I'm not too sure what more you're expecting from that pedophile supporter.

#135 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-07 05:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Clown,

Don't make it about Trump either.

He's not your more typical conservative either, in my opinion.

#136 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 05:28 PM | Reply

Trump is the logical and natural endpoint of conservative philosophy a selfish narcissistic sociopathic grifter

#137 | Posted by truthhurts at 2026-05-07 05:36 PM | Reply

Clown,

"Religion is a business used to control, manipulate and divide people."

That just shows you don't know enough about the people themselves who believe in God. You likely believe they're weak. Far from it. At this point I'm referring to Christians who are true believers.

Organized religion has always been used by some in deceitful ways for various goals, by some people who mean well and others for just pure greed.

#138 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 05:37 PM | Reply

Truth,

My take on Trump.

He's become a leader.

A leader isn't just speaking for themselves.

You have to have been a leader to understand that.

#139 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 05:44 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

"Right wingers want to arm teachers."

Your normal sensible conservative doesn't think like that.

Just feed your head with garbage and believe it.

I'm done. I've read enough garbage.

#140 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 05:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#140 100% oops:

Tennessee: In 2024, the state House passed a bill (SB 1325) allowing faculty or staff to carry concealed handguns on campus after receiving police approval, a psychological evaluation, and 40 hours of annual training.

Iowa: Governor Kim Reynolds signed legislation in 2024 that allows school employees to carry weapons on school grounds, requiring they meet a "strict training regimen" and annual background checks.

Ohio: A 2022 law (HB 99) reduced the training hours required for teachers to carry guns from over 700 hours to a minimum of 24 hours, giving local school boards the authority to implement the policy.

Wisconsin: As of January 2025, Republican lawmakers proposed a bill that would make it legal for teachers to carry guns and waive fees for gun licenses and background checks for those who apply.

West Virginia: Lawmakers have considered similar proposals to arm teachers and retired law enforcement to address shortages in school safety personnel.

#141 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-07 05:52 PM | Reply

#140 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 05:49 PM

You cant be serious. There is no other explanation for your persona than a troll. No one person could be as incredibly stupid as you post.

#142 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2026-05-07 05:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

" as it was it was commonly believed by many people that mail-in ballots created an environment where the election results were unreliable."

It's been five and a half years.

Show a single example of election results being unreliable.

As usual, you have a cockamamie theory, and ZERO proof, even into the sixth year.

And the folks who told you it was unreliable ... They have zero proof as well.

Again, prove me wrong: post a single example of unreliable election results.

#143 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-07 05:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#142 He does provide a wonderful example of the depravity to which so-called "Christians" will twist their beliefs into claiming that Jesus was interfering with capitalism when he overturned the money-changing tables in Temple.

Republican Jesus would never do that.

#144 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-07 05:55 PM | Reply

Your normal sensible conservative doesn't think like that.

#140 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

You and your friends have been eating normal conservatives alive.

Pick your teeth, for decency's sake.

#145 | Posted by Zed at 2026-05-07 06:00 PM | Reply

" Your normal sensible conservative doesn't think (to arm teachers)"

Clueless, to the nth power.

#146 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-07 06:03 PM | Reply

#138 | POSTED BY BULLJOHNSON

You support pedophiles.

You most likely are a pedophile.

The only part of Christianity you support is that part where Mary was 12 when she was pregnant with Jesus.

#147 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-07 06:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Your normal sensible conservative doesn't ...

... exist.

#148 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-07 06:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#147 Oh, Clown, be very careful.

Don't you know that you're treading on joining bj boi's time out list!

You wouldn't want that, would you?. LOL! :-)

#149 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-07 06:11 PM | Reply

I've supposedly been on the list several times.

BullJohnson is a troll.

He can't help himself but to respond.

#150 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-07 06:16 PM | Reply

Clown,

Ahh...I can't help myself.

I like writing responses and forming my thoughts. I started journal writing at 19 years old.

I don't hate anyone here.

Just disagree.

About my journal. Reading old entries. One day I wrote that I dreamed last night I married my wife. We were no where remotely talking about getting married.

It was a spur of the moment get the license and find the Justice of the Peace and get married kind of thing when we did. Now decades ago.

Then I noticed in my journal we got married the same month and day I dreamed it. Just discovered that last year.

Hmmm..

#151 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 06:32 PM | Reply

-12 when she was pregnant with Jesus.

Just for clarity's sake; she was somewhere between 12 and 16, at a time when marriage at 12 to 14 was the norm.

It's not like they were going to be living long at all, and having kids at 40...

"Around 2,000 years ago, during the Roman era, average life expectancy was low, estimated in the 20s to mid-30s, largely driven by high infant and childhood mortality.

While maximum lifespans were similar to today (~100+ years), many died young from diseases, with many adults, especially in cities, often living into their 40s or 50s.

Records from Roman Egypt show an overall life expectancy in the 20s, but for those who survived childhood (past age 5), life expectancy increased significantly, sometimes to the 40s."

www.google.com

#152 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-07 06:58 PM | Reply

Dan,

It's not a theory that at the time, in the middle of COVID, mail-in ballots were used in a much larger scale and the results were too close for comfort in the states that mattered.

That's not a theory

That's a fact.

You keep dragging out the same old strawman about the election results. Claims of fraud and such when I'm not directly talking about that. We do talk about it sometimes, but the circumstances at the time led to a lot of people questioning if Biden actually won. That led to Jan 6.

You post the same stuff and appear to skip right over what was the prevailing circumstances at the time.

I'm kind of tired of reading you talk about what happened months later when I am referring to that moment in time right after the election.

Admit it. At the time the circumstances did not encourage confidence in the election results. Biden voters didn't care but Trump voters naturally did.

If you can accept the idea that Trump voters aren't just a bunch of brainless idiots, perhaps you might see the circumstances at the time created a lot of doubt.

#153 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 06:58 PM | Reply

Oh, and a large part of that infant mortality rate in Roman Empire was dads telling their wives to kill the girl children; they usually were left outside to die of exposure.

Something that lasted until Rome was Christianized.

www.google.com

#154 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-07 07:02 PM | Reply

- If you can accept the idea that Trump voters aren't just a bunch of brainless idiots

They should stop proving it on a daily basis then.

#155 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-07 07:05 PM | Reply

Corky,

You're without hope.

#156 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 07:06 PM | Reply

No, I hope one day that you learn to see beyond your own nose.

Short and snubby as it might be.

It appears that, after several disappointments, you clamped onto the worst sort of corrupt government policies that the world has seen since... 1930's Germany.

#157 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-07 07:09 PM | Reply

And TOTALLY anti the sayings of JC, and the rest of the bible.

There are atheists here who agree more with his sayings than so some of the self-proclaimed believers.

#158 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-07 07:12 PM | Reply

Speaking of atheists (and agnostics) this kid is one of my favorite honestly intellectual atheists; he says he used to be an, 'edgy' New Atheist, but that he grew up.

#159 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-07 07:19 PM | Reply

www.youtube.com

top of the list

#160 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-07 07:21 PM | Reply

Corky,

Agreeing with His sayings doesn't get you saved.

#161 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 07:36 PM | Reply

BJ,

You don't get to say who gets God's love or why or how.

Judge not that you be not judged... because the judgement you use will be used on you.

Here's yet another chance to learn something new for you; what your claimed religion is really about.

www.youtube.com

Somehow I don't think you are man enough.

#162 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-07 07:42 PM | Reply

restart it

#163 | Posted by Corky at 2026-05-07 07:43 PM | Reply

Snoofy,
"Right wingers want to arm teachers."

Your normal sensible conservative doesn't think like that.
#140 | Posted by BillJohnson

There aren't any "normal sensible conservatives" any more, BillJohnson.

The closest you'll get is Eberly, whose only claim to fame is he didn't vote for Trump three times in a row, because he's not a cowed idiot like you.

#164 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-07 07:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Agreeing with His sayings doesn't get you saved.
#161 | Posted by BillJohnson

The void shouldn't scare you. It's where we all came from.

#165 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-07 07:47 PM | Reply

Corky,

In my youth I voted Republican.

Then I changed to Democrat for about 20 years.

Then back to Republican voting for Trump first term.

I think I have a pretty good understanding of both parties. I could vote Democrat if a few things changed.

Now someone will tell me what those things are. But they'll be right on some things and wrong on others.

#166 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 07:47 PM | Reply

If you can accept the idea that Trump voters aren't just a bunch of brainless idiots, perhaps you might see the circumstances at the time created a lot of doubt.
#153 | Posted by BillJohnson

You've never demonstrated above high school intelligence in any topic whatsoever.

Go ahead, pick a topic that isn't installing accounting software that you think you are an expert on.

#167 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-07 07:48 PM | Reply

"It's not a theory that at the time, in the middle of COVID, mail-in ballots were used in a much larger scale and the results were too close for comfort in the states that mattered."

Too close for comfort isn't a number, or a percentage, or anything data driven.

This is why you're such a bad person. You reject actual data, and replace it with feelings.

You're a Flat Earther, when it comes to this mail in ballot thing.

#168 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-07 07:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Snoofy,

"Go ahead, pick a topic that isn't installing accounting software that you think you are an expert on."

Does that mean you are accepting my information systems expertise now?

#169 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 07:57 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

"feelings"

No...that's liberal schtick.

"I feeeeellll"....whatever.

That's their go to defense a lot of the time.

Just listen to them. "I feel that....."

Just do it.

#170 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 08:01 PM | Reply

#170 Your "beliefs" are "feelings."

And that's a "liberal schtick"?

Really, bj boi?

#171 | Posted by A_Friend at 2026-05-07 08:06 PM | Reply

" ... at the time, in the middle of COVID, mail-in ballots were used in a much larger scale and the results were too close for comfort in the states that mattered."

Name the states where this happened.

Neither you, nor the folks who lied to you about the efficacy of mail-in ballots have ANY proof of ANY shenanigans, after five and a half years.

And as we all know ... the folks who lost were lied to so much, they stormed the Capitol on J6.

But tens of thousands had their ballots taken by housemates and NOBODY came forward, back then, or since?!? That's statistically impossible. Your theory violates common sense, human nature, and macro math.

You're just a sore loser who can't handle the truth Trump lost.

Just like the idiot himself.

#172 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-07 08:13 PM | Reply

" Then back to Republican voting for Trump first term."

You left out the part about Democrats getting gay marriage made legal.

That was when you left the Democratic Party. Trump came later. The timing had nothing to do with Trump, and everything to do with Democrats saying your life choices weren't needed for you to get equal rights.

And you'll never forgive them.

#173 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-07 08:17 PM | Reply

"feelings"
No...that's liberal schtick.

Then post PROOF.

You'd think after 5 1/2 years, you'd actually have some.

If it existed.

#174 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-07 08:19 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

I was told once by a consulting company that knew me pretty well that my greatest strength was being well-rounded.

I had good business sense. I could lead, teach, setup and troubleshoot.

I taught part time for at least half my working years and full time for three. Students loved me.

I was good at finding problems. Hardware, network, software, application, accounting setup, general ledger, modules.

Or just human error.

I started in the 80's and 90's moving companies over from manual to automated accounting systems performing all the work and training. Used Novell servers then.

I built reports a variety of ways. I never really moved into HTML because I was having too much fun with Crystal Reports and VBA programming using relational databases.

I was always a little old school, but it carried me right into retirement.

True story.

A user called and said he couldn't log on because he had a "dead key" on his keyboard.

I walked over to his desk and started tapping on the key because sometimes that gets it working again.

A drop of water fell out of the left front corner of the keyboard.

What do you say that won't make them feel defensive?

So I just said,

"Oh...I see the keyboard is leaking. I'll get you a new one."

#175 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 08:28 PM | Reply

Dan,

"Then post PROOF.
You'd think after 5 1/2 years, you'd actually have some.
If it existed."

How did anybody share any ideas or information before the Internet and hyperlinks?

You'd think the world was in the dark ages prior to 1995.

#176 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 08:34 PM | Reply

" How did anybody share any ideas or information before the Internet and hyperlinks?"

Not only is that no excuse, it actually makes the fact you can't produce any proof even worse.

But thanks for admitting that, even after 5 1/2 years, you still don't have the first piece of proof which any scientist would require to continue believing their own theory.

#177 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-07 08:36 PM | Reply

Dan,

"Not only is that no excuse, it actually makes the fact you can't produce any proof even worse."

Here's how it works.

If you don't agree with something I say, prove I'm wrong.

If your logic is just faulty and you can't comprehend something I wrote, that's on you.

I think I write clearly (most of the time) and unless you have a particular bias and are incapable of putting it aside...well...again that's on you.

If my logic is faulty, show me.

#178 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 08:43 PM | Reply

Dan,

Dull as rusty knife, aren't you.

#179 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 08:44 PM | Reply

That's their go to defense a lot of the time.
Just listen to them. "I feel that....."
Just do it.
#170 | Posted by BillJohnson

That's beside the point.
The point is:
That's what you say about mail in ballots.

You feel that they are insecure, but you don't have any proof.

#180 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-07 08:54 PM | Reply

Dan,

I am talking about when the election was held in 2020.

Just that....soon after the election was held.

All the justification after the fact is pointless. It's not the time frame I am referring to and haven't been.

You can not prove with absolute certainty that zero irregularities or fraud occurred, and the final results of the election will never be known...ever.

The odds of Trump actually winning? I've never claimed he won.

Again...is my logic over your head?

Sorry I don't have a hyperlink.

#181 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 08:56 PM | Reply

If you don't agree with something I say, prove I'm wrong.

If you don't have any evidence for what you're saying, how can we prove you wrong?

#182 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-07 08:57 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

"That's what you say about mail in ballots.
You feel that they are insecure, but you don't have any proof."

Shhhh...the adults are talking.

#183 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 08:58 PM | Reply

But you aren't saying anything.
You only have feelings.
No evidence.

#184 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-07 08:59 PM | Reply

Dan,

Time for me to change gears and work on something else.

Done.

#185 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 09:00 PM | Reply

"You can not prove with absolute certainty that zero irregularities or fraud occurred, and the final results of the election will never be known...ever."

And?

What's the relevance of you saying that?

You can say that about every election.

You can not prove with absolute certainty that zero irregularities or fraud occurred in any Presidential election.

#186 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-07 09:01 PM | Reply

"Then I noticed in my journal we got married the same month and day I dreamed it. Just discovered that last year."

It was exactly one year later....wierd...

#187 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 09:03 PM | Reply

BillJohnson,

Furthermore, even if that could be proved, there's no immediate legal remedy. The election results have already been certified. So even if Trump or Bush did steal the election, it's already a done deal.

What happened to you is that your disbelief that Trump lost has caused you to conclude the election itself was fraudulent. Just like a Flat Earther decides his equipment is faulty when it records the earth's curvature.

There were many other baits you could have taken. You could have blamed illegals voting, for example. You could have blamed insecure voting machines. You could have blamed 2,000 Mules. Point is, they kept baiying you until they found the formula that worked on you.

It's hard to admit you got conned. That's actually the arc of your life's struggle, from my vantage point.

#188 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-07 09:11 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

"You can not prove with absolute certainty that zero irregularities or fraud occurred in any Presidential election."

You are absolutely correct.

However, for 2020 you have to step back and look at the bigger picture.

Mail-in ballots being used on such a massive scale during COVID greatly amplified the potential for problems.

Some concerns were already known from states that had experience with large-scale mail-in voting, but now everything was compounded nationwide.

And there were also new procedures and processes being implemented in real time that had never been tested on this scale before.

All elections have irregularities.

Absentee ballots have always been controversial because of late arrivals and verification issues can create disputes. Historically, though, it usually was not enough to seriously question the outcome of the election.

2020 was very different to many people because the scale, circumstances and uncertainty were unlike anything seen before.

That is why many Trump voters questioned the results at the time even if they cannot prove Trump actually won or any fraud.

My opinion is this was exactly what led to the actual Jan 6 break-in.

We need public confidence in our elections.

#189 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 09:15 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

"What happened to you is that your disbelief that Trump lost"

Take your ball and go home.

#190 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 09:16 PM | Reply

I have to work on something else....done...really.

#191 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 09:17 PM | Reply

" If you don't agree with something I say, prove I'm wrong."

I did. With common sense, human nature, and math. You're just too stupid to understand the proof, or realize the requirement for proof is on you.

You're the one making the cockamamie claim. I'm stating the FACT no one has come forward corroborating your theory, EVER.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

You, sir, have none. No proof whatsoever. And no one who has ever claimed your theory has any proof whatsoever. You were lied to, and weren't smart enough to realize you were lied to.

Anyone dealing with facts, and not feelings, would admit they have no proof for their theory after 5 1/2 years, and drop the bullllschittt claim.

#192 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-07 09:19 PM | Reply

"Mail-in ballots being used on such a massive scale during COVID greatly amplified the potential for problems."

"Greatly amplified."

By how much?
What's the baseline risk?
How much did risk go up?
What alternative risks were avoided by using mail in ballots, in other words, what were the trade-offs made by States that chose to use mail-in ballots vs not using them.

You can't say.

That's what makes this all just a bunch of rambling nonsense.

What you're arguing isn't originating in the part of your brain that makes decisions based on facts.

#193 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-07 09:23 PM | Reply

" You can not prove with absolute certainty that zero irregularities or fraud occurred"

Oh, I'm sure there was the regular garden variety. But you're talking about tens of thousands of votes stolen, with nobody coming forward. That just doesn't happen, especially after a close election.

Simply stated, if your theory was correct, there would be hundreds, if not thousands of people coming forward claiming the same thing. The fact that after 5 1/2 years, there have been zero coming forward, simply proves it didn't exist at scale, and certainly not enough to affect the outcome.

Lots of proof for my statement; no proof at all for your theory.

#194 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-07 09:25 PM | Reply

"Some concerns were already known from states that had experience with large-scale mail-in voting"

You're lying!

You invented that fact because you think it should be true.

But that didn't happen.

You can't actually name these concerns, you can't tell us which States had them, and you especially can't tell us how each State addressed it.

#195 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-07 09:26 PM | Reply

"My opinion is this was exactly what led to the actual Jan 6 break-in."

Yes, because Trump knows milliohs of people like you will believe what he says.

Trump was saying the elections were suspect months before they happened, never with any evidence, and failing in every court case because of no evidence.

But you believed him then, and you still do.

It's really just that simple.

#196 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-07 09:29 PM | Reply

" Absentee ballots have always been controversial"

Feel free to link to the military complaints, or the state of Oregon's complaints, or any other state with mail in ballots and their problems.

The fact is, you're claiming problems exist, when none of the people with the systems are claiming problems exist.

Bottom line, you're just a sore loser. You wouldn't be complaining about any of this stuff had your party won.

And you've still never explained how down ballot Republicans won.

#197 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-07 09:30 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

"Trump was saying the elections were suspect months before they happened"

Actually, I was posting on here a month before the 2020 election as soon as I heard how voting was going to be done that we are looking at the potential for a disaster.

I think I nailed it.

#198 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 09:38 PM | Reply

Dan,

"Bottom line, you're just a sore loser"

That's right.

You figured me out.

#199 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 09:39 PM | Reply

" You figured me out. "

Oddly, that's your first honest post on this thread.

If you had proofI was wrong, you'd post it.

#200 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-07 09:46 PM | Reply

"I was posting on here a month before the 2020 election as soon as I heard how voting was going to be done that we are looking at the potential for a disaster."

The "disaster"is folks lied to you about the efficacy of mail-in ballots, and you were gullible enough to fall for a statement with ZERO evidence, even five and a half years later.

When down-ballot Republicans win where Trump lost, your theory disintegrates.

#201 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-07 09:54 PM | Reply

" I was posting on here a month before the 2020 election as soon as I heard how voting was going to be done that we are looking at the potential for a disaster."

That's a "feeling".

Have any actual facts???

Because the folks on the inside of it, state after state after state, all reported fair, safe, and secure elections.

#202 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-07 10:00 PM | Reply

Dan,

"If you had proofI was wrong, you'd post it."

In my world, my career...I was my own proof (most of the time).

CPA's took my work, usually no questions asked except end of fiscal year.

Mgt ran companies based on my numbers.

Not mickey mouse financials.

I don't talk about where I worked or the industries.

#203 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 10:12 PM | Reply

Dan,

Anyone in technical types of jobs eventually develops a kind of sixth sense, if they're any good, about where to start looking when something goes wrong.

It comes from experience, pattern recognition, years of troubleshooting and just basic knowledge.

If someone has never worked at that level in anything, it can be hard to understand what that feels like.

#204 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 10:18 PM | Reply

It's getting pretty deep in here.

#205 | Posted by REDIAL at 2026-05-07 10:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Dan,

2020 felt too squishy holding elections so soon, after reading the proposed plans for large scale mail-in voting.

Some states started preparing in March, but many were still writing procedures toward the end of the summer and even into the fall, trying to avoid bottlenecks and have some degree of accuracy.

I don't believe it was a direct federal mandate. It was more that the CDC and COVID pushed states in that direction and states started scrambling to prepare.

Yahoo...

Keep in mind, it's the larger scale that changes everything.

You can't simply take the same processes designed for smaller numbers and assume they will function the same way at larger numbers.

Bottlenecks and weaknesses that weren't obvious before, suddenly become very obvious.

#206 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 10:34 PM | Reply

Redial,

"It's getting pretty deep in here."

Are you actually reading it?

Does it make sense to you what I am saying?

I won't insult you whatever you say.

#207 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 10:36 PM | Reply

Redial,

Or correct me...that's always fun...

Find holes in my logic.

Dan did that once. I won't tell him where it was.

#208 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 10:38 PM | Reply

shutting the computer down.

damn...i'll be up late now...

#209 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2026-05-07 10:40 PM | Reply

" Dan did that once."

Dan has done it every time.

You're just not smart enough to address the math, human nature, and basic logic.

#210 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-07 11:05 PM | Reply

" Some states started preparing in March, but many were still writing procedures toward the end of the summer and even into the fall, trying to avoid bottlenecks and have some degree of accuracy."

And what were the post-election report reports from those states?

(Check notes ... ) Oh, all the states reported fair, safe, and accurate elections. So did the director of the FBI.

Where's YOUR PROOF to the contrary?

Without proof, your claims are merely a reflection of your hurt feelings.

#211 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-07 11:08 PM | Reply

" Find holes in my logic."

Human nature: there's no way in heaven, hell, or anywhere in between, where tens of thousands of people could've had their ballots taken from them, yet nobody came forward.

If you think tens of thousands of victims, with ZERO coming forward is "logical", you're a fricking moron.

#212 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-07 11:11 PM | Reply

Absentee ballots have always been controversial

Only if your notion of "always" started on November 4th, 2020.

Before then no one cared.

#213 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-07 11:19 PM | Reply

The fact is the Republican Party was cheating in 2020.

But voter turned out blew them out of the water.

Which is why Trump continuously blamed Biden for cheating.

He couldn't figure out how, after four years of tormenting America, a full year of laughing at people dying from Covid, Americans could turn against him in such large numbers.

This time he's openly cheating in order to prevent losing.

Using farmland districts to silence urban voters.

#214 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-07 11:22 PM | Reply

Find holes in my logic.

Translation: "Entertain Me!"

#215 | Posted by ClownShack at 2026-05-07 11:23 PM | Reply

"You can't simply take the same processes designed for smaller numbers and assume they will function the same way at larger numbers."

But that isn't a thing that happened.

The mail handles so much mail that adding ballots to the mail doesn't create much more volume. One more piece of mail to and from every voter in every household, it's not a scale problem at all. Voting by mail is perfectly scaled to the mail.

Nothing new had to get invented. All the states already had systems to handle mail in ballots anyway. Managing the increased volume of mail-in ballots isn't difficult to accommodate.

#216 | Posted by snoofy at 2026-05-07 11:25 PM | Reply

" Keep in mind, it's the larger scale that changes everything."

Nonsense.

If that were the case, every single state who does mail in ballots would be echoing your statement.

So ... Once again, you're making claims without a single iota of evidence.

#217 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-07 11:27 PM | Reply

Are we STILL on mail-in voting?? Seriously. Bwhahahaha that's so freaking hilarious. Someone shoot me and get it over with.

#218 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2026-05-07 11:35 PM | Reply

" 2020 felt too squishy"

Felt.

Thanks for admitting this is about feelings, not facts.

#219 | Posted by Danforth at 2026-05-07 11:37 PM | Reply

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