"The American dream, it's more reality in the Nordic countries than in America."

Yup. I'm moving to Europe at the end of the month because it's a better deal there for me.

Sure, regulations and taxes are higher but I've done the math and it still works out in my favor while giving me more time with my family and, most likely, more money to do things with them.

For the vast majority of people, the American dream in the US is dead. One has to be particularly gifted or a f*&^ing sociopath to really boost themselves in America these days.

Good. Hopefully you never come back.

#18 | Posted by BellRinger

It's no surprise you want your betters gone.

People like you are turning our once great Republic into a failed state that is the butt of endless jokes.

You're a stupid pile of s*&^ who wants people like me gone because we're simply better than you in every way. And you can't stand that.

Where to?

I think you're going to like it.

The Netherlands.

Everything I've read in the job offer, expat groups on FB ect suggests we're going to love it.

My pay is basically the same (slight raise), just converted to Euros. Rent, health insurance, food, transportation (outside of gasoline) are all going to be cheaper.

Sure, taxes are higher as everyone likes to point out as if I didn't already know, but when I did the math I'm going to end up with the same net I have in the states because I maxed out pre-tax deductions like retirement, HSA ect. All of those will be covered as well in the Netherlands but with better services and additional perks not available here, namely I'm going on a high skill visa that will put me in a position to get in a program where 30% of my income is tax free.

I get more holidays. More PTO. A cool bonus intended to pay for holidays during the summer break from school. I could go on and on.

It's going to be amazing.

A suggestion, if you have time, check out Albania before the summer ends. Karaburun. Best beaches on this planet.

#21 | Posted by madbomber

That, unfortunately, won't be possible this summer due to work start date and trying to get the family settled.

But I've been building a list of places we want to go since European once a lifetime bucket list type items are no longer bucket list, once in a life time events.

I've been reading good things about Eastern Europe as cheap, off the beaten path sort of destinations (Albania and Croatia being the two most frequently mentioned), so I'll add that to the list.

It doesn't have stupid piles of s*&^ like you.

You're probably the kind of fat a&&, dumbf&*^ American who walks into a restaurant or store in Europe and they groan.

Your kids will never want to leave. Mine didn't. The oldest just did it for college.

If you don't mind my asking, how old were they when they moved there? Mine are very young, so I'm expecting they'll be more Dutch/European than American, although we're taking a ton of US history books to make sure they learn it.

You're a younger dude. You have your whole life ahead of you. You're going to LOVE it.

#28 | Posted by madbomber

Thanks! I might hit you up here for some suggestions or recs on places to go and things to do. I'm really looking forward to having Europe as my back yard to see as much as we can, touristy and, most importantly, not so touristy.

Wish you could talk the rest of your ilk to go with you.

#29 | Posted by fortfisher

And leave the country populated with the same caliber of people running it? You really want it to sink, don't you?

Face it, sport, people like you are dead weight. Turning it entirely over to you is like letting the special needs ------- run the grocery store.

why is bag gers censored?