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Sunday, May 12, 2024

Jersey Shore was swamped with MAGA supporters as Donald Trump hit the stage in Wildwood for a sunset rally on the beach. The former president arrived around an hour and a half late on Saturday at about 6.30pm for the event which was attended by 80,000 supporters, according to his campaign.

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"the event which was attended by 80,000 supporters"

lmao... some people will believe anything.

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#1 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-12 11:09 AM | Reply

Looks like the smelly orange pedo's inflating numbers again. Sad!

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#2 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-05-12 11:10 AM | Reply

Also ... can Biden even get that many people to show up when he speaks? Everyone here knows he can't bc he had the damn staff clap for him to make it seem like there's more people at his events rofl.

#5 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-05-12 11:36 AM | Reply

"According to [Trump] spokeswoman Lisa Fagan, the capacity for the rally is 20,000." nj1015.com

So the same people claiming 80K attended previously said that total capacity was one-quarter of that number, at most.

Video of the crowd: www.youtube.com

#6 | Posted by censored at 2024-05-12 11:36 AM | Reply

I'm just reporting news that multiple agencies are reporting on. If you have a problem with the numbers they're claiming contact the news agencies and bitch.
#3 | Posted by Bluewaffles

Seriously? Even your article admits that they were just repeating Trump's claims: "which was attended by 80,000 supporters, according to [Trump's] campaign."

#7 | Posted by censored at 2024-05-12 11:39 AM | Reply

By report, people at this rally were leaving early and deserting the back areas of the venue and then those in front.

Given Trump's performance was addled, emphasizing the progress of dementia, I am not surprised.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2024-05-12 11:59 AM | Reply

Gotta start lying about crowd sizes now if you want to claim the election was stolen in November.

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-12 12:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump's Wildwood, NJ rally in 95 seconds pic.twitter.com/8J23RukyZY" The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) May 12, 2024

#11 | Posted by qcp at 2024-05-12 12:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Everyone knows the 80,000 crowd estimate is wildly inaccurate -- even the right-wing publications spreading it.

#13 | Posted by rcade at 2024-05-12 12:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Censored, I think we can all agree the Daily Beast is NOT a right leaning website.
Agreed!

The estimate of 80,000 came from someone within the city. www.thedailybeast.com
#8 | Posted by Bluewaffles

OK, but when you click on the Daily Beast link it takes you to an article that says "The MAGA shindig along the beach drew a crowd estimated to be between 80,000 and 100,000 people, according to a spokesperson for the city."

The link to that 80-100K number in the article is a tweet that says "Lisa Fagan, spokesperson for the city of Wildwood, told The Associated Press that she estimated the crowd represented between 80,000 and 100,000 attendees, based off her own observations on the scene Saturday, having seen "dozens" of other events in the same space."

So the same Lisa Fagan who was spokeswoman for the rally (as seen in the rally promo ad I posted earlier: https://nj1015.com/trump-rally-wildwood-new-jersey/ ) as stating capacity was 20,000 and works for the MAGAt mayor of Wildwood says that attendance was quadruple/quintuple the capacity she claimed three days before the event.

Does that crowd look anywhere close to quadruple/quintuple capacity to you? But who are you going to believe, the MAGAt spokesperson or your lying eyes?

#14 | Posted by censored at 2024-05-12 12:19 PM | Reply

"Why was my link to the Daily Beast taken down"

Because you're a victim, BlueWaffles.
Because you're a victim.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-12 12:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 7

Why was my link to the Daily Beast taken down that shows the figure was direct from someone who worked for the city stating there were between 80-100k people who came to the city that day for the rally? That's not from the campaign but from the municipality itself. #15 | Posted by Bluewaffles

It appears so. No idea why. You didn't use any offensive language and just linked to the Daily Beast article which links to the MAGAt spokesperson's tweet that is the basis for that incorrect number.

The Daily Beast could have done a better job calling that number out for what it is, MAGAt lies. But that's the kind of incisive reporting that allowed voters to elect famous Jew-ish, Horace Mann, Baruch College, Goldman Sachs, Citi Group person George Santos as a representative to Congress.

#18 | Posted by censored at 2024-05-12 12:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

BlueSniffles, lmao...

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-12 12:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

80,000 what? Grains of sand?

#20 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-05-12 12:39 PM | Reply

#17 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

You really need it to be 80.000, don't you?

But in the end it doesn't matter. MAGA (you) are quite comfortable with another coup attempt if Donald Trump doesn't prove to be as wildly popular on election day as his nasy ego demands him to be.

#21 | Posted by Zed at 2024-05-12 12:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Also ... can Biden even get that many people to show up when he speaks? Everyone here knows he can't bc he had the damn staff clap for him to make it seem like there's more people at his events rofl.

#5 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

Donkey shows in Tijuana draw large crowds too, I wouldn't want those jackasses in the white house either.

#23 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-05-12 12:56 PM | Reply

Everyone knows the 80,000 crowd estimate is wildly inaccurate -- even the right-wing publications spreading it.

#13 | POSTED BY RCADE

And if a billion flies eat crap we should all eat crap?

Also if Trumpy could only get 11,780 more of the uneducated to attend Trumpy's rallies then maybe Trumpy could be a winner like Biden, too!

#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-05-12 01:03 PM | Reply

News is reporting that over half the people walked out about mid-speech.

#25 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-05-12 01:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Poor Corky and Rein getting their panties in a twist. I'm just reporting news that multiple agencies are reporting on. If you have a problem with the numbers they're claiming contact the news agencies and bitch.

#3 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

I'm just repeating what I want to hear without actually thinking first! Don't make fun of me, please?

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#26 | Posted by jpw at 2024-05-12 01:26 PM | Reply

"Donald Trump drew the largest audience ever to witness a beach rally, period."

~Sean Spicer

#27 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-05-12 01:32 PM | Reply

To the municipal worker with the front-end loader (Waffles source) to clean up the mess, it probably DID look like 80,000 people were just there.

#28 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-05-12 01:34 PM | Reply

Family Guy - Trump supporters

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#29 | Posted by Corky at 2024-05-12 02:14 PM | Reply

To the municipal worker with the front-end loader (Waffles source) to clean up the mess, it probably DID look like 80,000 people were just there.

#28 | POSTED BY TWINPAC

If you weighed everyone who was in attendance, there was probably 80,000 average humans worth of weight in attendance.

#30 | Posted by jpw at 2024-05-12 03:20 PM | Reply

I apologize for Calling out Rcade for censoring a perfectly acceptable left leaning link that validated the initial non-partisan article I posted. Also I apologize for pointing out that Zed who loves calling Republicans fascists, while he himself is in fact a non American Zed ... Americans use 80,000 not 80.000.

It's very clear that the return of Trump began this weekend, and that strikes a nerve for some.

#31 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-05-12 04:00 PM | Reply

"This Trump crowd size story is a lie based on the laziness, shadiness and carelessness of Steve Peoples' reporting about the Trump rally, which claims that 80,000 - 100,000 people were in attendance. The AP must retract this baseless number that is a lie passed on by a county official of one of the most MAGA-friendly counties in America, without vetting, measurement or credible secondary sourcing--let alone common sense."

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#32 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-05-12 04:10 PM | Reply

RiotWomenn
@riotwomennn

Same venue on the right ... City of Wildwood said this was 35,000 people at the event, a country music festival

From Trump's plane yesterday on the left. Taken at 3:57

There is no line of people trying to get in.

That estimate by the City is nonsense

Reporters smh

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#33 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-05-12 04:14 PM | Reply

Surely there's a plane or helicopter or drone shot...

I know someone who knows someone who went to the rally. Went there from Pennsylvania. The attendee was surprised that my friend didn't think it was cool. Friend went on to say Trump is a rapist. Attendee said, oh I guess you prefer illegal immigrants and open borders.

It was just like talking to the Deplorables here.

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-12 04:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Donald Trump's Crowd Size Raises Questions

But social media users compared aerial photos of the crowd in Wildwood with other events that drew huge amounts of people to question the size of Saturday's crowd.

One X account posted a photo of a Taylor Swift concert with more than 70,000 attendees with the Trump rally, writing: "Trump in Wildwood, crowd NOT EVEN CLOSE TO 73,000."

www.newsweek.com

#35 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-05-12 04:18 PM | Reply

------- succeeded in wasting everyone's day on nonsense.

#36 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-05-12 04:25 PM | Reply

Gal, regardless of the size for those in the event. Apparently both the Municipality and the County are saying 80,000+ showed up to town to see the man. The fact that the media isn't backing down from this number says one of two thing: 1) The number is correct or 2) The media has turned against Biden and is all too happy to report the 80k number.

My question to those of you who lean left would be this ... Which of those two scenarios should be more concerning to Democrats?

#37 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-05-12 04:27 PM | Reply

Yep, people talking about crowd size rather than. . .insert your choice of more important issues.

#38 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-05-12 04:27 PM | Reply

#37 All of the links I posted in this thread have photos of Trump's crowd size as well as photos of what 80,000 people look like. Trump didn't have 80,000 people there.

#39 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-05-12 04:30 PM | Reply

The same Lisa Fagan who claimed there were 80,000 to 100,000 people there, also said before the event that the venue where Trump was speaking had a capacity of 20,000:

I need a ticket?

Yes. You can register for a maximum of two free tickets at the Trump campaign website. The digital ticket you receive will be scanned before you can get onto the beach. According to spokeswoman Lisa Fagan, the capacity for the rally is 20,000. The Trump campaign has not disclosed when ticket registration will end.

Read More: Going to the Donald Trump rally in Wildwood? Here's what to know | nj1015.com

#40 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-05-12 04:36 PM | Reply

Before the rally, the mayor claimed the space held 30,000 to 40,000:

Wildwood Mayor Ernie Troiano told NJ Advance Media on Wednesday the rally will be held between Schellenger and Spicer avenues, a stretch of beach between two amusement park piers. He said the city is preparing for a crowd size of between 30,000 and 40,000.

www.nj.com

Hard to believe a space said to hold between 20,000 and 40,000 held between 80,000 to 100,000. See photos at post #33 for a comparison between a country music festival that held 35,000 and Trump's rally in the exact same location.

#41 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-05-12 04:41 PM | Reply

They probably came up with that 80,000 plus figure because they wanted to support Trump's boast that he drew a bigger crowd than The Boss:

Springsteen Fans Roast Trump For Bizarre Boast About Size Of New Jersey Crowd

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#42 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-05-12 04:46 PM | Reply

it's very clear that the return of Trump

Wait, when did he ever go away?

#43 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2024-05-12 04:49 PM | Reply

Wait, when did he ever go away?
#43 | POSTED BY TAOWARRIOR

When he lost the election.

#44 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-05-12 05:21 PM | Reply

#42

Gal you know and I know those angled images are not reliable.

I am still looking for overhead shots.

One I did see was hours before the event.

I wonder if drones were TFRd after a certain time.

#45 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-05-12 05:23 PM | Reply

Hard to believe a space said to hold between 20,000 and 40,000 held between 80,000 to 100,000.

That's because it didn't. What's Lewzer's lie count up to now?

#46 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-05-12 05:33 PM | Reply

The left is a pic of 50K people to see @Pink on the beach in Atlantic City ... .the right a pic of what MAGAs are saying is 80-100K people in Wildwood to see Trump pic.twitter.com/w9JAQlQMJC" Wu Tang is for the Children (@WUTangKids) May 12, 2024

#47 | Posted by qcp at 2024-05-12 06:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

MAGATS lie. About everything.

#48 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-12 06:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Legally, then why is the media all too happy to report the number?

Unless ... they too have turned on Biden.

#49 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-05-12 06:28 PM | Reply

News is reporting that over half the people walked out about mid-speech.
#25 | POSTED BY TWINPAC

That's been the case for years. The same old shtick from an increasingly disturbed individual doesn't play well. Too bad millions of Americans can't admit to a gross mistake, pun intended.

#50 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2024-05-12 06:29 PM | Reply

Trump can't stop talking about anything but his victimhood.

#51 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-05-12 07:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

'Rio de Newjersio': Trump friend mocked for using Brazilian photo to lie about rally size

www.rawstory.com

LOL

#52 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2024-05-13 12:28 AM | Reply

REIN

I guess that means only 200 people showed up and half of them got bored and (it's told) left in mid-speech.

#53 | Posted by Twinpac at 2024-05-13 07:12 AM | Reply

Posted by Bluewaffles

Horse manure defines this person's existence.

#54 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-05-13 07:41 AM | Reply

A theme park rally? fitting. Next one should be at a circus. Even if there were 1,000,000 people, nobody should care about crowd sizes. Crowd sizes went out with the caveman. We have the internet and only people who vote count.

#55 | Posted by Brennnn at 2024-05-13 11:33 AM | Reply

Gal, regardless of the size for those in the event. Apparently both the Municipality and the County are saying 80,000+ showed up to town to see the man. The fact that the media isn't backing down from this number says one of two thing: 1) The number is correct or 2) The media has turned against Biden and is all too happy to report the 80k number.
My question to those of you who lean left would be this ... Which of those two scenarios should be more concerning to Democrats?

#37 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

He just can't get away from the lie. So he doubles down on it. Then triples down it.

#56 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-05-13 02:30 PM | Reply

Syco, the media has stood by 80,000 people showing up to town to see the man. How many of them got in remains to be seen. It's literally why I worded the title the way I did. With that said, why is it the media didn't change their number?

#57 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-05-13 02:39 PM | Reply

"the media has stood by 80,000 people showing up to town to see the man."

The lamestream liberal media that lies about everything?

The media that Trump said is the enemy of the people?

That media?

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-05-13 02:48 PM | Reply

The lamestream liberal media that lies about everything?
- snoofy

Are you implying it was greater than 80,000?

I have seen som overhead drone shots, imo it's more like 40,000 tops.

#59 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-05-13 03:11 PM | Reply

the media has stood by 80,000 people showing up to town to see the man.

The media has stood by the Trump administration's claim that 80,000 people showed up.

FTFY.

BlueSniffles loves being lied to.

#60 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-13 03:14 PM | Reply

MAGA ain't got nothing without lies. They're all liars. Every single one of them.

#61 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2024-05-13 06:13 PM | Reply

It's obvious Trump's rallies draw substantially larger crowds than Biden, whose crowds are risible.

But at the end of the day crowd size and votes don't matter. Ballots matter. Nothing else.

#62 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-05-13 06:53 PM | Reply

and votes don't matter. Ballots matter. Nothing else.

#62 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

wait wut?

#63 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2024-05-13 06:54 PM | Reply

#63, what are you questioning?

#64 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-05-13 07:00 PM | Reply

It's obvious Trump's rallies draw substantially larger crowds than Biden, whose crowds are risible.

This is true. Perhaps that's why there is so much focus on the number.

But at the end of the day crowd size and votes don't matter. Ballots matter. Nothing else.

I kind of agree, but disagree, IMO I would find it hard to believe someone with low turnouts, would actually have more votes, than someone with high turnouts.

#65 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-05-13 07:07 PM | Reply


MAGA ain't got nothing without lies. They're all liars. Every single one of them.

#61 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT

You sound jealous, it's not like there is a comparison of a Trump rally to a Biden rally.

#66 | Posted by oneironaut at 2024-05-13 07:09 PM | Reply

Crowd size is meaningless. Trump had large crowd sizes too in 2020. He still lost.

#67 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-05-13 07:10 PM | Reply

Trump's rallies draw substantially larger crowds than Biden,

Watching Trump is entertaining.

It's what made him such a successful game show host.

#68 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-13 07:11 PM | Reply

crowd size is what you talk about when youre in a cult for a very insecure manchild.

#69 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-05-13 07:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

For Trump, lying about size is just habit.

#70 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-13 07:11 PM | Reply

His 2017 inauguration crowd was yuge!!!

#71 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-13 07:12 PM | Reply

I still can't believe that he is even allowed to run for POTUS. After trying to overthrow the Constitution and trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of political power. In a perfect world he wouldn't be. But I digress.

#72 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-05-13 07:17 PM | Reply

still can't believe that he is even allowed to run for POTUS.

Half the country thinks the confederacy is alive and well.

#73 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-05-13 07:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I was naive to think that half our country couldn't possibly be that stupid, but then they nominated the orange turd in 2016

#74 | Posted by hamburglar at 2024-05-13 07:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Watching Trump is entertaining.

That's what he is... an entertainer.

What he isn't, is a competent businessman or president.

#75 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-05-13 07:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Fox News Jesse Watters tells the truth about Trump's crowd size. LOL (video at link):

Polly Sigh
@dcpoll
Even Jesse Watters doesn't believe Trump's crowd size claims.

Acyn
@Acyn
Watters says he sent someone to Trump's rally and it wasn't 100k in attendance. He says it was more closer to 30k

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#76 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-05-13 08:08 PM | Reply

How do thousands walking out in the middle of Trump's speech translate into voter turnout on eleection day? Inquiring minds want to know:

Donald Trump Rally Video Shows Mass 'Walking Out' During Speech

www.newsweek.com

#77 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-05-13 08:16 PM | Reply

Walter Masterson
@waltermasterson

Here is 35 unedited minutes showing thousands of MAGA walking out on Trump while he's still talking.
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#78 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-05-13 09:03 PM | Reply

Fat Donnie Loser is a colossal bore.

#79 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2024-05-13 09:56 PM | Reply

Watching Trump is entertaining.

So entertaining that the crowd was walking out halfway through his manifesto of victimhood.

#80 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-05-14 07:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Here is 35 unedited minutes showing thousands of MAGA walking out on Trump while he's still talking.
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#78 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-05-13 09:03 PM | Reply

No way that is anywhere near 80,000.

Some of the people leaving the rallies were interviewed and they all had the same thing to say....he's boring.

#81 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-05-14 07:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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