Alex,

"Trump ended the crisis he created by chickening out."

You think so?

I think he's a lot smarter than you think.

For example, when he spoke at Liberty University and was referring to 2nd Corinthians he said "Two Corinthians" rather than "Second Corinthians".

The media got all over that making fun saying he's trying to act like he's one of them and saying it was a terrible blunder.

It was brilliant is what it was.

That was his way of making it clear he will not position himself as their enemy, like liberals are doing, yet it was abundantly clear he is not pretending to know Christianity.

Even now he manages to stay several steps ahead and is controlling the narrative.

I believe liberals underestimate him, which is to his advantage.

Laura,

What could Trump do with it?

Do you think Trump isn't mortal?

Zed,

"Does Trump think he's mortal?"

I would say he does.

However, he's been told by so many Christians that he is blessed and God is using him and protecting him, he may very well believe he's on an ordained mission from God. He may well believe he's been chosen by God for some purpose.

I certainly believe God has chosen people in the past to do His work if they are willing.

I won't get into a debate or reply to the angry responses. I personally do believe God has in the past and will again in the future.

What about now? We certainly need someone at the helm willing to serve. Why should I question who He has chosen? A sinner? Who else is there?

That doesn't make someone Godlike or superior.

It just makes them willing to be a servant to God's will.

Corky,

You've mentioned before you think Trump is the anti-Christ.

I always ask you....so who is Christ?

Where is Christ?

You brush off my question but it still remains. If Trump is the evil response to Christ, where or who is Christ?

Corky,

If you are taking Bible scripture serious enough to suggest Trump is the anti-Christ, it only stands to reason you accept the rest of the story and are professing to believe Jesus is Christ.

Is that wrong?

jpw,

"Convincing yourself that your politics is a "mission from God" is not only a sign of mental illness"

Try rereading what I wrote.

Did I at any point specify my personal beliefs? People here misread my posts all the time where I don't specify my personal beliefs and they assume I did. I will be clear when I say what I personally believe.

Actually, the whole believing in God routine some would consider a sign of mental illness.

Corky,

Where is Christ?

Corky,

If you look at a coin and call it tails...well...you can't act like there's no heads on the other side, which is what you're trying to do.

Where is Christ if Trump is the Anti-Christ?

Corky,

"Behind you!!"

What if He is?

Zed,

"CORKY is a Christian, BILL."

I prefer not to talk about other posters with someone unless I have to say something about Laura or Snoofy or Clown.

Ok Corky....who is Christ?

If you are a Christian you will openly profess your faith.

Now's your chance.

Snoofy,

"So you think Trump is a Christian"

Is that what I said?

Snoofy,

"So you think Trump is a Christian"

Is that what I said?

Zed,

"There's something wrong with you, BILL."

I will agree I function at a different frequency.

But sonething wrong with me?

Maybe there's something right with me but its off your radar?

Snoofy,

"Say whether Trump is a Christian.
Say it right now."

You just don't understand how it works.

I've never heard him claim to be a Christian but I don't pay attention to everything he says.

But...if he did say he was a Christian, I still wouldn't know for sure if he is. That's not up to me.

There's many people who believe they are, but actually aren't. Again, I wouldn't know for sure who is or isn't.

You're wanting something from me I won't pretend I know the answer, however there are plenty of people who do claim to know the truth.

I know this is disappointing for you but I won't go that route. I can't....sorry you don't understand. It is impossible for me to say for certain.

I don't have such knowledge.

Snoofy,

If you look at the Bible as a whole, I believe the takeaway is that God will use anything for His purposes and that God is in control.

While God doesn't approve of evil, He can use your hatred for good within His plan.

Keep in mind God the Father used the hatred of the Jewish religious leaders to see Jesus betrayed, arrested, tortured and killed, all within in God's plan.

Snoofy,

My point is, whether or not Trump is a Christian doesn't matter if God is using him for a greater good as part of His plan.

Alex,

"Trump, confirmed a Presbyterian, now identifies as non-denominational Christian"

Whether or not Trump is a Christian, at least he isn't deliberately mocking God and His followers like many liberals do.

Alex,

"You knew he was before I posted the proof. You still know.
Dishonest cult member."

The same thing I said to Zed. Apparently what I'm writing is at a different frequency that's off your radar.

I explain things and you still can't see.

I guess that's what Jesus was talking about.

Matthew 13:13 (NKJV)
"Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand."

I don't have a Messiah Complex....I'm just quoting something He said that seemed to fit this thread.

Jpw,

"You have no idea how mentally ill you sound, do you?"

I'm well aware how mentally ill I probably sound to you.

My experiences as a Christian didn't start last year. I've been offending people long before you.

I've been angry, wrestling with God, and fighting Him for decades. And He's still forgiven me.

Honestly, I'm more worried about the day I stop wrestling altogether, because indifference would be worse than anger.

Alex,

"Why would you buy a bible from a non Christian, bill?"

I have many Bibles and collect the ones that interest me.

A "Trump Bible" is unique and not something you'll see at stores. Maybe in a yard sale.

Actually, the "Trump Bible" used Lee Greenwood's name and brand for the "God Bless the USA Bible" by Lee Greenwood.

Trump promoted and endorsed it.

Alex,

"it isn't the Christianity that offends. It's the lying."

You've nailed it, but probably not the way you think.

I've said before all Christians are hypocrites. We believe in higher ideals and goals we can't achieve.

Even the Apostle Paul said he knows what is wrong and does it anyway.

Yes...the lying offends us personally. We get tired of being who we are and want to be more pleasing to God but we are mortal men.

Thankfully, we have Jesus to fall back on and be reassured His forgiveness will not falter.

I think you were coming from the angle that the non-Christians are offended by the lying Christians.

But...really we offend ourselves.

Jpw,

"And the convenient frequency with which a "Christian's" opinion aligns with God's.
It's the ultimate arrogance."

John 14:6 NKJV
"Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."

I see people post on here saying they only like the red letter parts of the Bible.

Fair enough...here's one. Jesus is quoted as saying He is the ONLY pathway to God.

All other Gods are false.

Now THAT'S the "ultimate arrogance" by your standards.

That should provide you with some insight why Christians believe as they do.

Alex,

"He's been posting stupid ---- for 20 years. I know, I've read it. He's genuine in his MAGA filth."

I know you're not talking about me. Up until Trump I supported democrats.

Dan,

"Up until Gay Marriage became legal you supported Democrats."

The timing is correct but I've explained the context numerous times.

Obviously you don't care about that.

You just want to twist things around like you do.

Jpw,

"Also, I know how Christians work. I grew up in a religious household. Knowing how they work is why I'm not one."

Your comment is very ambiguous.

I've known several Christian households. All the way to giving tracs instead of candy on Halloween, or parents who believe video games are evil and wouldn't let their children play them, all the way to God is love. They believe in the Spirit of Jesus but not really the significance of repentance and salvation.

Another family I knew elevated the Bible and literally put it on a pedestal and worshipped around it. Oddly, it felt like idol worship the way it was propped up.

And I've known families that believe in repentance and being saved. Each person has their own walk with Christ. Not a lot of judging among each other. Parents assumed a role in educating and providing support.

So you know how "religious households" work.

I'm curious. What church or denomination was your family?

Jpw,

btw ... the "other gods are false" part is not part of the quote I posted as Jesus' words.

Jesus simply said that no one comes to the Father except through Him.

Sounds to me like Jesus is making a claim that anything or anyone else people worship as "god" isn't the same "God the Father" Jesus speaks of.

My interpretation?

We will be pulled, pressured, and tricked on this earth into worshiping other "gods" in many different ways but they are not Him.

Another trick will be people claiming "We're all worshipping the same God."

I see people on this site treat the Beatitudes (Matthew 5:3"12) as especially significant because they're red-letter words and because they conveniently fit the narrative Democrats want and are the version of Christianity they are expecting.

Dan,

Are you slow on the uptake?

My point is that some people love the red-letter words that fit the liberal narrative but don't accept other red-letter words where Jesus says that He is the only...only path to God the Father.

My implication is all other Gods we claim to believe in are illusions.

Corky,

I've seen a lot of different videos and ideas.

Christianity can be interpreted in different ways.

I might check it out...or I might not.

I'll read about James Talarico for sure.

Corky,

I read about him. Sounds like I would agree with much of what he says.

The mistake is you are thinking I am a "MAGAnite White Nationalist Christian"

I believe in nationalism but not because I'm a Christian.

I believe in Christianity but don't want to see the Bible be made into laws.

Certainly I can vote for someone because they are a Christian and someone running for office can openly profess his beliefs.

But...just can't make laws based on the the Bible. I might decide I like someone because he/she is a Christian. That's perfectly acceptable.

Actually, I've always believed mixing religion and politics, neither end up functioning well.