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Thursday, June 13, 2024

The court found that anti-abortion doctors who questioned the FDA's easing of access the pill did not have legal standing to sue.

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More: The court found unanimously that the group of anti-abortion doctors who questioned the Food and Drug Administration's decisions making it easier to access the pill did not have legal standing to sue. As a result, the lawsuit will be dismissed.

By throwing out the case on such grounds, the court avoided reaching the legal merits of whether the FDA acted lawfully in lifting various restrictions, including one making the drug obtainable via mail, meaning the same issues could yet return to the court in another case.

Another regulatory decision left in place means women can still obtain the pill within 10 weeks of gestation instead of seven.

Likewise a decision to allow health care providers other than physicians to dispense the pill will remain in effect.

#1 | Posted by qcp at 2024-06-13 10:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

By throwing out the case on such grounds, the court avoided reaching the legal merits

Profiles in courage.

#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2024-06-13 10:16 AM | Reply

Thwy must be realizing the people are grabbing their pitchforks; Americans do no want to be ruled by the Chridtian Taliban!

#3 | Posted by danni at 2024-06-13 10:21 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 6

wonderful.

you can still kill babies.

but I do support abortion ....in liberal homes.

the fewer the better.

#4 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-06-13 10:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Thwy must be realizing the people are grabbing their pitchforks

#3 | POSTED BY DANNI

I've been thinking the same thing. They've been testing wind direction. NOT what I'd expect in objective judges. But at least when the wind is right thay can still do something decent.

#5 | Posted by Zed at 2024-06-13 10:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

interesting opinion from Kavenaugh.

talked about "democracy" and how it's the way to settle this......that's that thing that people like him are going to

destroy..... right ??

--idiot liars

#6 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-06-13 10:30 AM | Reply

I think you give them too much credit Danni. They found a way to punt and ensure this will still have the chance to come back up in a year without a presidential election.

#7 | Posted by qcp at 2024-06-13 10:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

#3 Somehow you missed all the posts regarding votes by conservative justices the left did not agree with. Hint, they were not kind and involved violence against them and their families.

#8 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2024-06-13 10:31 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

why are you so mad this pill is still legal?

maybe mind your own uterus?

#9 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-06-13 10:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

#5 | Posted by Zed '
on
according to a legal "expert" on ABC ....hard to type that....there is another case in the "pipeline" brought

by the states....that's most likely going to be something they will consider according to them.

-30-

#10 | Posted by shrimptacodan at 2024-06-13 10:33 AM | Reply

Texas-based U.S. District Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk loses yet again.

#11 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-06-13 10:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

interesting opinion from Kavenaugh.
talked about "democracy" and how it's the way to settle this......that's that thing that people like him are going to
destroy..... right ??
--idiot liars
#6 | POSTED BY SHRIMPTACODAN

Exactly.

"Democracy" as you say. Not Democracy.

#12 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-06-13 10:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#10 | POSTED BY SHRIMPTACODAN

The only way you people will eliminate abortion and birth control is by massive state repression.

Prison and execution for doctors and women.

Even prison for people like me, since my opinions could be construed as "facilitating" abortion for others.

I never under-estimate your insanity, or your cruelty.

#13 | Posted by Zed at 2024-06-13 11:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

wonderful.

you can still kill babies.

No. No you cannot kill "babies". Not in America. You must be confused. Again. Do they still allow that in China?

That is a very sick fantasy you got going there. You don't seem to be adjusting well to your new country.

Seek help comrade.

#14 | Posted by donnerboy at 2024-06-13 12:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

" Somehow you missed all the posts regarding votes by conservative justices the left did not agree with. Hint, they were not kind and involved violence against them and their families."

And what do you think all these so called "right to lifers" would do if the same court upheld a ban one the number one tool used to intentionally kill people in the United Hello States? The threats of violence would be so many that our law enforcement officers wouldn't be able to protect the court members. Do you think there were no threats when Civil Rights Bills were upheld? I remember the cheering in the South by white people on the day John Kennedy was shot! Those red necks would have pinned a medal on Pswald Hello if Jack Ruby hadn't killed him before they got the chance.

#15 | Posted by danni at 2024-06-13 12:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Wow! the SC realizes that standing is a thing! Whodathunk

Keep in mind this is the distraction to make the SC seem reasonable. Oh how the Overturn window has shifted

#16 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 12:43 PM | Reply

The treasonous 6 on SCOTUS must have gotten the memo from the ruling elite that own the Republican party that they need to protect the tax cuts and deregulation by making sure the people don't win big in November and install more Democrats.
So better to let this medication continue for the time being.
And if they could get Trump to win and get the Senate and keep the house, they could remove the filibuster and then make it so that only white males who are rich can vote, like the founders intended.

So let this ride and continue to manipulate the masses until we irrevocably destroy the power of those masses.

#17 | Posted by prius04 at 2024-06-13 12:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

This ruling is one that could have been made at the trial court level, or at the appellate level. The case arriving at SCOTUS is indication of the far-Right tilt of many judges and courts in the US. The issue of standing is one of the most basic that an attorney must overcome. That plaintiffs made it this far is not good...

#18 | Posted by catdog at 2024-06-13 12:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Big pharma wins again. Pills are okay, doctors not much.

#19 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2024-06-13 01:39 PM | Reply

Does this mean states like Texas can't jail women for getting them by mail from another state?

#20 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2024-06-13 01:49 PM | Reply

The entire religiously inspired anti-abortiion and anti=gay rights crowds are both the same. They are not harmed by either thing but just think God empowers them to stick their noses into everyone else's private decisions. We used to expect people to mind their own business but today that is just too much to ask.

#21 | Posted by danni at 2024-06-13 01:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

My God, Zed proves to be more off the wall than Legally with what gets typed ...

#22 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2024-06-13 02:00 PM | Reply

My God, Zed proves to be more off the wall than Legally with what gets typed ...

#22 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES

He's not wrong.

#23 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-06-13 02:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

He's not wrong.

#23 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

Zed I mean. Bluewaffles/Jeff is a nutjob.

#24 | Posted by Sycophant at 2024-06-13 02:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

That it's a procedural ruling doesn't leave me feeling any better than before.

There's no real decision here and seeing as the court is an objectively political body at this point, I think the others before me that stated this is a political punt until after the election are correct.

#25 | Posted by jpw at 2024-06-13 02:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

And two points for IveNeverTouchedAWomanDan,

I couldn't care less about what Kavanaugh said. People's medical decisions aren't and shouldn't be up for a vote.

Second, there are legit reasons to use this medication outside the scope of your mouth breathing idiocy about KiLlInG BabIeZ!!

So GFY you blue balled pile of s%**.

#26 | Posted by jpw at 2024-06-13 02:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"did not have legal standing to sue."

The past 40 years have seen significant erosion of who has standing to sue the Federal government.

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-13 02:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Does this mean states like Texas can't jail women for getting them by mail from another state?

#20 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY

well that depends on whether you think states will listen to a SC ruling they don't like

#28 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 02:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The past 40 years have seen significant erosion of who has standing to sue the Federal government.

#27 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

MOHELA says what?

#29 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 02:52 PM | Reply

I've said this before, and I'll say it again:

I have a deeply held belief that women are entitled under any and all natural laws to govern what happens within, to and on their bodies, be it with sexual expression, sexual performance, reproduction and all other forms of bodily autonomy. This Supreme Court denies my right to these deeply held beliefs.

#30 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 02:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"A pregnant woman or child has no rights that the white man is bound to respect."

---Breed Stock Decision

#31 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 02:56 PM | Reply

#30 Jews believe life begins at birth and thus abortion is legal in just about every circumstance you can think of.

The Supreme Court denies Jews their deeply held religious beliefs on abortion, but allows Hobby Lobby to impose their deeply held religious beliefs on abortion to the women who work there.

This Court has become a de facto legislature for religious fanatics.

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-13 02:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I condemn any man who has a woman in their life, be it mother, spouse, child, aunt, niece, cousin or simply friend, who supports any infringement on that woman's inalienable right to full bodily autonomy. I cannot conceive of how a man justifies that to themselves. Me? Personally? I would do anything for my daughter.

#33 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 03:30 PM | Reply

#21 POSTED BY DANNI

I'm not in any sense religious...I support a womans right to choose...I support gay marriage. I'm adamantly opposed to biological males being allowed in places/sports designated for biological women...I support Israel
So where would I fit on your political spectrum?

#34 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-13 03:59 PM | Reply

You're voting for Trump.

Which is all that matters.

#35 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-06-13 04:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#35 POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

I don't believe I've ever done more than intimate that the possibility of voting for trump...given the weak conniving alternative we seem to be faced with.
Maybe RFK as a spoiler
Frankly, I don't see how I'm better off after almost 4 years of biden...would 4 more of trump been better? probably not.
It's like my support for Israel....Go Bibi, do whatever you think needs to be done. I have no sympathy for the Palestinians

#36 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-13 04:13 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

You have a solemn duty to keep ------- out of office.

Full
Stop

#37 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 04:25 PM | Reply

That's a lot of trolling points for one post.

#38 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-06-13 04:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Every other policy falls to the importance of protecting the simple fact of democracy.

Abortion
Gay rights
Taxation
Israel-Gaza
State's Rights

Anything you can think of is less important than preventing a fascist dictator from taking office and surrounding himself with lunatics.

There will little or no guard rails preventing him and those lunatics around him from implementing the most vile despicable policies and, oh yeah, deciding elections are antithetical to his concept of democracy.

Even the most rabid trolls on this site will be sadly disappointed with an America that he envisions. Cause you will be surprised at who he conceives as enemies and that includes you.

#39 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 04:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That's a lot of trolling points for one post.

#38 | POSTED BY REDIAL

Jeff is a fan of compound words in his sock puppet names

#40 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 04:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You have a solemn duty to keep ------- out of office....#37 POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

I'd assume you mean via the ballot box

so do you doing anything above and beyond, door to door...max contributions...yard signs...DR posts..?

#41 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-13 04:34 PM | Reply

I spend my time in the most profitable way possible, stamping on Jeffj (the lying PoS)'s troll lying posts. Kicking his ass is a singular good in politics.

#42 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 04:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#39 POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

and that's why I asked yesterday, what would be the issue that would spark civil disobedience?

#43 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-13 04:39 PM | Reply

You have a solemn duty to keep ------- out of office....#37 POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS
"I'd assume you mean via the ballot box"

I will NEVER advocate violence. I will observe that the world would be a different place had Georg Elser set his clock a 15 minutes earlier than he did.

#44 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 04:42 PM | Reply

#39 POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS
and that's why I asked yesterday, what would be the issue that would spark civil disobedience?

#43 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT

Define civil disobedience.

#45 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 04:45 PM | Reply

#45 POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

well that encompasses everything from Gandhi to Jefferson Davis...I worry about tyhe states that have a large militia presence and at least a semi supportive government, Idaho, Texas etc.
will it be homeless encampments or illegal immigrants...power outages?
I'm surrounded by trump supporters, and they're all armed. some of the things they say are radical to say the least. AND...social media, more important this time around, and not in a good way IMO

#46 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-13 04:59 PM | Reply

Frankly, I don't see how I'm better off after almost 4 years of biden...

#36 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT

Have you examined your life choices?

#47 | Posted by Zed at 2024-06-13 04:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Jeff is a fan of compound words in his sock puppet names
#40 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

Such as BellRinger, BlueWaffles, BillJohnson ...

#48 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-06-13 05:00 PM | Reply

Have you examined your life choices?.....#47 POSTED BY ZED

I love funny...thrive on sarcasm...laugh, but consider criticism, but pointless rhetoric is a waste of every ones time.
try to do better

#49 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-13 05:06 PM | Reply

I have no sympathy for the Palestinians

#36 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT

And I have zero respect for people who have no sympathy for children being blown up and starved to death.

#50 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 05:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"Frankly, I don't see how I'm better off after almost 4 years of biden"

Do you see how you're better off because of any President?

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-13 05:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I think you give them too much credit Danni. They found a way to punt and ensure this will still have the chance to come back up in a year without a presidential election.
#7 | POSTED BY QCP

Absolutely:

Lis Power
@LisPower1

Seconds after Fox's legal correspondent noted several states will now sue over Mifepristone, Fox anchor questions "Dems are trying to make abortion the front and center issue ... will this Supreme Court decision take one part of that off the table?"

x.com

#52 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-06-13 06:06 PM | Reply

Unkle Thomas tries to renege on his Pill Vote.

"Justice Thomas wrote a concurring opinion, in which he agreed the plaintiffs, the Alliance for Hippocratic Medicine, lacked standing but also questioned whether the court should revisit a ruling from 47 years ago.

Thomas raised concerns about the court's ruling in the 1977 case Hunt v. Washington State Apple Advertising Comm'n.

"One of the most disturbing elements in the Supreme Court's mifepristone decision is Clarence Thomas's gratuitous concurring opinion that he wants to eliminate 'associational standing' for organizations like the NAACP to be able to sue for their members," posted author Keith Boykin.

"SCOTUS 9-0 throws out abortion pill challenge bc plaintiff group lacks standing. Kavanaugh writes majority. Thomas (right grab) concurs to attack all forms of associational standing, most often used by left-side civil rights plaintiffs," wrote lawyer Mike Sacks." excerpts

www.newsweek.com

#53 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-13 06:41 PM | Reply

"well that encompasses everything from Gandhi to Jefferson Davis"

This clown just called the Civil War "Civil Disobedience."

Where do we find these schmucks?

#54 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-13 07:16 PM | Reply

After Rogers exiles them, they just show up with newer, dumber handles.

I've prolly killfiled the same dozen lame arsewipes a dozen times each, lol.

#55 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-13 07:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I've prolly killfiled the same dozen lame arsewipes

Ever wonder how many there actually are? Some are one weekend fly-by-nighters and some seem to linger for months at a time.

#56 | Posted by REDIAL at 2024-06-13 07:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

they just show up with newer, dumber handles.

Yep.

#57 | Posted by ClownShack at 2024-06-13 07:38 PM | Reply

" I've prolly killfiled the same dozen"

Same here, including our newest sock puppet.

#58 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-13 07:44 PM | Reply

#50 POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

yeah it's easy to be sympathetic when it costs you nothing. and you feel so good about yourself. and the DR gadflys that reinforce your holier than thou positions.
do you feel sorrier for the Hamas babies or intercity american black kids?
let me guess...you love all god's chillun'.
you mentioned George Elser ....would he have been necessary if it hadn't been for weak ass Chamberlin
the jews have done everything they could...dead babies are a result of trying to deal with fools
I didn't realize that this was a popularity contest

#59 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-13 07:52 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I love funny...thrive on sarcasm...

#49 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT

Well, then. You've grown a foot taller today.

#60 | Posted by Zed at 2024-06-13 07:55 PM | Reply

"do you feel sorrier for the Hamas babies or intercity american black kids?"

Which kind are you?

#61 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-13 08:03 PM | Reply

50 POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS
yeah it's easy to be sympathetic when it costs you nothing. and you feel so good about yourself. and the DR gadflys that reinforce your holier than thou positions.
do you feel sorrier for the Hamas babies or intercity american black kids?
let me guess...you love all god's chillun'.
you mentioned George Elser ....would he have been necessary if it hadn't been for weak ass Chamberlin
the jews have done everything they could...dead babies are a result of trying to deal with fools
I didn't realize that this was a popularity contest

#59 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT

Your perception of the world is both cynical and boring.

Your philosophy is devoid of empathy or humanity, it is nihilism, nothing more.

I have sympathy, because my parents raised me right. And that allows me to feel superior to people like you. And as a byproduct I have self-respect which leads to feeling good about myself. You should try it (after years of therapy)

You are lost and you don't even know it. It's sad really.

Are you a Chamberlain for -------? For Netanyahu? For Putin? Authoritarian -------- are a dime a dozen, often they are broken people lacking sympathy, sound familiar?

When you can't see the moral calculus of starving children to death, you are lost.

And you mix that with tedium.

#62 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 08:13 PM | Reply

Which kind are you?....#61 POSTED BY SNOOFY

and there in a nut shell is your woke liberal virtue signaling transgender militant who has a purity test agenda.
in pre war germany you'd have been one of those demanding the Juden sew on the yellow star...so you'd know which kind they were
I'm a blue eyed white boy and consider myself a proud American and am ashamed to see what it's becoming due largely to self serving idiots on both sides of the aisle

#63 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-13 08:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"in pre war germany you'd have been one of those demanding the Juden sew on the yellow star"

Say what?

#64 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-13 08:23 PM | Reply

"I'm a blue eyed white boy and consider myself a proud American and am ashamed to see what it's becoming due largely to self serving idiots on both sides of the aisle"

As one White Boy to another,
Tell me,
What is America becoming?

#65 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-13 08:24 PM | Reply

"I'm a blue eyed white boy and consider myself a proud American"

No surprise you're a proud boy.

#66 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-13 08:28 PM | Reply

I'm a blue eyed white boy and consider myself a proud American and am ashamed to see what it's becoming due largely to self serving idiots on both sides of the aisle

#63 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT

So, you're an iniquity signaling magat militiatant?

Now, now brerbabbitt, there is self-serving and then there is SELF-SERVING. I'd take messy democracy to malignant narcissistic fascistic authoritarianism every day of the week and thrice on Sunday

#67 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 08:31 PM | Reply

What is America becoming?

#65 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

We are on the knife's edge of American fascism. Which side are you on?

#68 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 08:31 PM | Reply

In Germany circa 1943 you'd have been one of those watching through the gas chamber window as the Zyklon-b was dropped in. most certainly with a tiny chubby in your feldgrau breeches

#69 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 08:34 PM | Reply

#62 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

Lots of heat...not much light
A koom-bye-ahh political speech worthy of one of the Squad

"When you can't see the moral calculus of starving children to death" this is as idiotic a statement as the pro-life people make when they say that its a baby AT conception.

yeah.. dead babies are a subject difficult to discuss dispassionately....but there's dead babies all over the world. how many are you willing to take in and care for? you know, before they're dead

#70 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-13 08:36 PM | Reply

#66 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

I am but not what you're trying to insinuate. but there's a lot of them around here

#71 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-13 08:39 PM | Reply

As one White Boy to another,
Tell me,
What is America becoming?....#65 POSTED BY SNOOFY

I think the best overarching example would be to compare our public school system today with say 1965.
To me, public education is one of the major factors that certified us as a great nation and the system has been perverted by folks with an agenda other than to give our children the best education available.
It would be nice to include public health insurance but we just can't seem to get there
the rule of law is taking a helluva' beating
and the homeless
that's what it's becoming

#72 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-13 08:50 PM | Reply

yeah.. dead babies are a subject difficult to discuss dispassionately....but there's dead babies all over the world. how many are you willing to take in and care for? you know, before they're dead

#70 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT

Cross that bridge when we get to it, right now I'd like to stop providing bombs that are being dropped on the heads of toddlers, you may feel differently. I'm glad I am the way I am, you seem empty.

#73 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 09:03 PM | Reply

"...public school system today with say 1965"

The segregated one?

The one where priests were raping young boys?

The one where jews were not allowed?

The one where the working women teachers didn't have the right to hold a credit card or own land?

The one where the gay teachers were arrested for who they loved?

The underfunded schools that served black kids?

nah, I prefer the messy system we have today where we are striving for a just and equitable system (against regressives btw)

#74 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 09:12 PM | Reply

#73 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

this is BS rhetoric...neither of us are in a position to do anything toward furthering that desire.

I wish the discussion concerning that area of the world would be focused on militant islamists.

I see that group as the biggest existential threat in the world today

#75 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-13 09:15 PM | Reply

Then you'd be wrong. The biggest existential threat in the world is Climate Change, followed by wealth inequity.

In America the biggest existential threat is ------- and the Magat movement

As for killing children, there is something that can be done, the students at Columbia have the right idea. they are just up against powerful forces.

But "this is BS rhetoric...neither of us are in a position to do anything toward furthering that desire." is the nihilist.

Go touch grass, go talk to a therapist, find meaning in life.

#76 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 09:24 PM | Reply

#76 POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

you are entertaining. students at Columbia huh.

you like that word nihilist ... not to be confused with realist

and you wish for world peace too, I bet

#77 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-13 09:31 PM | Reply

You're a pitiable worm, really.

I would hate to live in a world where I couldn't dream of peace.

That would make me a cynical -------.

And god forbid I was...common... that would be boring.

Get out and get a beautiful woman to smile at you. It will do you good.

#78 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 09:36 PM | Reply

Posted by brerrabbit

Jesus wept.

What a --------.

Plonked!

#79 | Posted by Angrydad at 2024-06-13 09:43 PM | Reply

#78 POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

And dream is what your kind always do. and that's pretty much all you do. for you to be a cynical ------- you'd have to be truly committed to something and you're not. it's which ever way the blows for folks like you. what ever the feel good du jour is.
you are a phony

married 43 years and my wife and I live here on the farm with our cats and dogs and horses

#80 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-13 09:46 PM | Reply

- self serving idiots on both sides of the aisle

One side of the aisle is supporting a candidate for Pres who tried his best to overturn an election he knew he had lost, according to the sworn testimony of his own people.

First with a Fake Ballot scheme that his own DOJ thwarted by threatening to resign en masse... and then the back-up treachery, a Fake Elector and violent mob scheme that almost worked.

So that side of the aisle, the traitor/criminal and all those who support him, isn't really the same at all as the other side, uninspiring as they might be.

Your 'parties are the same' cop out is an obfuscation for said criminals and their enablers... of which you seem to be a party.

In this election, if you aren't against the criminals, you are for them.

#81 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-13 09:46 PM | Reply

#81 POSTED BY CORKY

I don't disagree with what you say...I think I'm suffering from trump overkill. I have never seen the apprentice, but, I did biz with folks in NYC in the 70's and they knew people who'd had dealings with him. he'd be in the news and they'd tell me about what a crook him and his family were. so he runs for president and you know the rest. I still can't believe he won. Now, looking back on the last 10 years...starting with McConnell not honoring Obama's supreme nomination and the lie he told about future nominations. Trump will be trump if he's allowed and it's those folks on both sides of the aisle that are facilitating his ability to remain viable. I'd think not electing trump would be a given and these threads consist mostly of name calling. for instance #74 is probably one of the silliest things i've read in a while. but it did make me laugh

#82 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-13 10:04 PM | Reply

"And dream is what your kind always do. and that's pretty much all you do."

My "kind" has been the force behind EVERY improvement in the human condition.

My "kind" is behind education, democracy, freedom, liberty, equality, rationalism, realism, science, we defeated the monarchy, we defeated slavery, we defeated imperialism, we defeated fascism, we defeated communism we put people on the moon and cured polio, we set millions free from -------.

What have your "kind" achieved? Conservatives have fought tooth and nail against progress throughout history, that is their essence. They promote mythological belief systems, irrationality, bigotry, authoritarianism, they gave us monarchies, slave society, jim crow, the destruction of the middle class by reagan, war crimes by Dubya and the pinnacle of conservative beliefs, the cult of -------, you have denied climate change, you have denigrated immigrants, you have killed yourself instead of wearing a mask.

You have fought progress all the way, and like conservatives today who tout the development they voted against, you will take credit for the progress, but you are the force that resisted growth, like you wouldn't be holding a fire hose in Alabama in the 60's, goose stepping in the 40's, killing indigenous people in the 1890s, whipping slaves in the 1850s.

Face it conservatives suck

#83 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 10:05 PM | Reply

- it's those folks on both sides of the aisle that are facilitating his ability to remain viable

You were improving up until you weren't... Dems are fighting this corrupt former Pres tooth and nail. They aren't perfect, but you are just repeating the same tired old parties are the same nonsense, which helps the criminal party.

Voltaire: "The perfect is the enemy of the good."

Dems are far from perfect, but they are by far the lesser evil.

chomsky.info

#84 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-13 10:13 PM | Reply

#83 POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

To start with, I'm not a conservative. I'm just more conservative than you.

you accede to yourself all the qualities deemed virtuous in western society

At best you're vain, more probably.. delusional

I'm saving your #74 post...it's a ------in' classic example. it belongs on the barn wall with the FarSide collection

#85 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-13 10:17 PM | Reply

I'm saving your #74 post...it's a ------in' classic example. it belongs on the barn wall with the FarSide collection

#85 | POSTED BY BRERRABBIT

Do you deny those were the truths of the 1965 education system? Odd, I didn't think the truth of those things was even the least bit controversial.

ce la vie

#86 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 10:20 PM | Reply

#84 POSTED BY CORKY

you're right...I guess what I should say is the people on the left who I'd call screw-ups are the ones whose actions are cited as examples of liberal largess and used to excite and recruit the MAGA crowd. when you see people streaming over the border...homeless in our major cities, thats laid at the dems doorstep

#87 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-13 10:24 PM | Reply

"but you are just repeating the same tired old parties are the same nonsense, which helps the criminal party."

I don't know if he means to say it's an equal participation. IOW, saying there people on the left who are helping Trump isn't the same thing as parties are the same".

It means ultra libs who sit a home on election day because the more liberal candidate loses the primary or moderates who manage to switch sides on election day.......those people are guilty of helping the criminal party.

You argue with them occasionally here.

#88 | Posted by eberly at 2024-06-13 10:25 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

-Do you deny those were the truths of the 1965 education system?

Priests raping kids in public schools?

You're blaming public schools for that?

#89 | Posted by eberly at 2024-06-13 10:26 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

-My "kind" is behind education, democracy, freedom, liberty, equality, rationalism, realism, science,

You might delude yourself into believing you're part of a club or group.

but you're not. Your actions are what's worth evaluating.

You may or may not be behind such things.....even if you vote for people who are behind such things.

You're just a wannabe pretending you matter.

you don't. just vote....and take the abuse you got coming on this place.

We appreciate it.

#90 | Posted by eberly at 2024-06-13 10:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Truthhurts thinks his side' defeated Communism. Liberals and Democrats despised Reagan for his aggressive measures against Communism.

#91 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-13 10:30 PM | Reply

The MAGA crowd gets inflamed over the claim of human causation of climate change... verified by 97 percent of scientists, which their Dear Leader denies and which is a major cause of immigration from the south, not just here but around the world.

They also get excited about fake stories of pedophile dens in the basements of pizza places that don't have basements.

Lowering our expectations based on what MAGA people believe is counterproductive at the least.

#92 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-13 10:31 PM | Reply

91

He also thinks you charge too much to fix cavities.

#93 | Posted by eberly at 2024-06-13 10:33 PM | Reply

"They also get excited about fake stories of pedophile dens in the basements of pizza places that don't have basements."

They should be more original.

Like stories about pedophile rings in Nebraska

Or a VP candidate who faked a baby.

Loons everywhere.

#94 | Posted by eberly at 2024-06-13 10:36 PM | Reply

Reagan was never despised for his tear down the Wall moments, Heffybelle.

He was despised for his Supply Side Economics that ended up never ever werking, and forced him to raise taxes 11 times to pay for it.

Also for Iran-Contra; selling missiles to Iran, raising the Defense Budget 6 times, creating the first trillion dollar deficit, slashing federal aid to schools by more than $1 billion, and he cut the Department of Education budget by 19%...

... a president who said "trees cause more pollution than automobiles do," Reagan issued leases for oil, gas, and coal development on tens of millions of acres of national lands, completely ignored the growing AIDS epidemic in the 80's, busting Unions, and the 33 billion in taxpayer dollars that went down a dark hole to Star Wars Defense System which was an industry boondoggle and nothing more.

I could go on....

#95 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-13 10:43 PM | Reply

youtu.be

#96 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-13 10:46 PM | Reply

-I could go on....

And tell us about his last election.

49 states was it? Mondale lost 49 states.

And Reagan was despised?

#97 | Posted by eberly at 2024-06-13 11:00 PM | Reply

And BTW, could this ruling be what it claims to be?

No legal standing.

Can't even accept that? Some subversive strategy being employed instead?

#98 | Posted by eberly at 2024-06-13 11:01 PM | Reply

And Reagan criticism is fair game. I'm not defending him.

#99 | Posted by eberly at 2024-06-13 11:05 PM | Reply

99

Of course you aren't, Bev... it's your tradition to be the Official Fence Sitter on both sides of all issues.

You do you, lol.

Those splinters, though. That must hurt!

#100 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-13 11:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Truthhurts thinks his side' defeated Communism. Liberals and Democrats despised Reagan for his aggressive measures against Communism.

#91 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

The vast majority of the modern-day problems can be traced directly to that turd's term in office, from the destruction of unions to the destruction of the middle class, from deregulating wall street to the advent of religion in politics. Screw him and his diseased corpse.

Reagan built of 40 years of liberal policies to bring down the Soviet Union. Rock and Roll and blue jeans (and Afghanistan) were as much to credit to bring down the SU as Star Wars and unlimited defense spending, which, oh yeah is another thing we have to thank him for.

#101 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 11:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

liberals despised reagan because he was joined with the televangelist right, who want to control everyone. and giving us scalia, ruining carters re election by doing deals with the enemy, iran contra, and reaganomics.

he was scum. hating communism was one of the few things reagan got right.

#102 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-06-13 11:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Such unhealthy hatred you morons drag around.

Thanks for displaying it for my enjoyment.

#103 | Posted by eberly at 2024-06-13 11:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#101 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

HEAR..HEAR! I hated that ----- every since he replaced the Old Ranger on Death Valley Days

#104 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-13 11:17 PM | Reply

snoofys god speaks about unhealthy hatred.

hilarious!

#105 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-06-13 11:19 PM | Reply

Excellent decision - amazing how the left's love/hate for the SCOTUS fluctuates, depending on rulings. We are for abortion , with the exception fo the 'sick' practice of late term abortion.

#106 | Posted by MSgt at 2024-06-13 11:20 PM | Reply

105

That's right. It's not hard to identify.

You put it right out there.

#107 | Posted by eberly at 2024-06-13 11:22 PM | Reply

you can tell me where im wrong about reagan, since youre "not defending" him.

#108 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2024-06-13 11:27 PM | Reply

Excellent decision - amazing how the left's love/hate for the SCOTUS fluctuates, depending on rulings. We are for abortion , with the exception fo the 'sick' practice of late term abortion.

#106 | POSTED BY MSGT

JFC what on earth are you talking about? You have no idea what is going on here.

1st less than 1% of abortions happen after the 21st week and those are due to SEVERE abnormalities with the fetus OR life threatening complications to the woman-so it is SICK NOT to permit abortions.

2nd. All this case was, was a test by the 5th district's resident whackadoo Judge Kazmaryk. He is single handedly pushing the Overton window radically to the right. A case like this lets the SC act like they are moderate when they are anything but. While the focus is on this the texas courts are doing abominable stuff and get no press. Meanwhile this case, OBVIOUSLY, should not have made it out of the district court there OBVIOUSLY was no standing. Yet the fringe judge gave it life, which tests the water for standing. It gave Thomas an opportunity to float his deranged take on standing. And the merits weren't even breached. So, to make republicans seem sane on the topic of reproductive freedom, this case was allowed to die. Its the same thing the anti-choice whackos have been doing for decades, stripping women's rights by fringe legal theories.

BTW, who is "We are for abortion"? You do realize that if ------- wins in November, a nationwide abortion ban is coming, you get that right? And not a 24 week or 20 week or 15 week, right? You understand he will implement a 6 week, no exceptions ban.

But you support abortion, except in cases that don't exist.

Christ republicans are morons.

#109 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-13 11:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"with the exception fo the 'sick' practice of late term abortion."

Some evil group has convinced you certain undesirables use the 8th month for birth control. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Please rethink your sources, especially if, say, they just paid or are about to pay millions and millions of dollars for lying to you.

#110 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-13 11:43 PM | Reply

" he will implement a 6 week, no exceptions ban."

Nah, conception.

The only advantage is women get to use the HOV lane if they were feeling frisky before driving to work.

#111 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-13 11:47 PM | Reply

"ess than 1% of abortions happen after the 21st week"

"New findings from the Monthly Abortion Provision Study show that an estimated 1,037,000 abortions occurred in the formal health care system in 2023"

www.guttmacher.org

Because it's less than 1% I'll round down to an even million for 2023 alone. That brings the number down to 10,000. That's not a small number.

#112 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-13 11:57 PM | Reply

"10,000. That's not a small number."

In a country with 330,000,000 people?!? What kind of math are you using?

It's a small percentage, where the percentage will NEVER be zero.

#113 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-14 12:07 AM | Reply

-you can tell me where im wrong about reagan,

I'm pointing out your hatred.

Not the history.

Geez

#114 | Posted by eberly at 2024-06-14 12:09 AM | Reply

" That brings the number down to 10,000."

One more reduction: what percentage, at this point, are making this decision based on health, and what percentage are choosing the 7th or 8th month for birth control?

#115 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-14 12:10 AM | Reply

"It's a small percentage, where the percentage will NEVER be zero.

#113 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Okay. In 2023 about 43,000 were killed via gun violence. That is 0.00013% of the population. Small number?

"One more reduction: what percentage, at this point, are making this decision based on health, and what percentage are choosing the 7th or 8th month for birth control?

#115 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

That's a good question and it's one I don't have the answer to. Here's the thing - why oppose banning abortion after the first trimester EXCEPT FOR cases based on health? It seems like a good compromise to me.

#116 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-14 12:14 AM | Reply

Doing a little quick research, here's a surprising fact: one of the major reasons for folks getting later abortions is they had to save for travel costs.

Gee, who built that?

#117 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-14 12:16 AM | Reply

" In 2023 about 43,000 were killed via gun violence."

So a problem 4x as large, and you empower the folks who abet the slaughter. Got it.

#118 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-14 12:18 AM | Reply

" EXCEPT FOR cases based on health"

So it's a big -- to the poor girl who first had to save money for travel. Got it.

#119 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-14 12:23 AM | Reply

That's a good question and it's one I don't have the answer to. Here's the thing - why oppose banning abortion after the first trimester EXCEPT FOR cases based on health? It seems like a good compromise to me.

POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2024-06-14 12:14 AM | REPLY

Because it's no one's business but the woman and her Dr. Full stop.

#120 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-06-14 12:30 AM | Reply

Can't we just have an adult conversation?

I support abortion during the first trimester. This whole thing about 'travel expenses' is a very recent phenomenon. What I am suggesting is a NATIONAL abortion law that allows for abortion, for any reason during the first trimester and then is limited to health after that. Do you really find it to be THAT unreasonable of a suggestion? Keep in mind that adoption services still exist and are in demand if a healthy woman as regrets after the 1st trimester.

#121 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-14 12:31 AM | Reply

I support abortion during the first trimester. This whole thing about 'travel expenses' is a very recent phenomenon. What I am suggesting is a NATIONAL abortion law that allows for abortion, for any reason during the first trimester and then is limited to health after that. Do you really find it to be THAT unreasonable of a suggestion? Keep in mind that adoption services still exist and are in demand if a healthy woman as regrets after the 1st trimester.

POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2024-06-14 12:31 AM | REPLY

So you're a forced birther. Good to know.

#122 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-06-14 12:34 AM | Reply

Supporting no limits on abortion during the first trimester is "forced birther"?

You need to re-check where you are getting your definitions.

#123 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-14 12:38 AM | Reply

Keep in mind that adoption services still exist and are in demand if a healthy woman as regrets after the 1st trimester.
POSTED BY BELLRINGER AT 2024-06-14 12:31

That's what you said Jeff. After the first trimester the woman is screwed in your world. That's forced birtherism right there.

#124 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2024-06-14 12:41 AM | Reply

After the 1st trimester the baby would be mostly protected in my world.

#125 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-14 12:50 AM | Reply

" Can't we just have an adult conversation?"

Sure.

What are the five main reasons women get late abortions when it's NOT about fetal abnormalities or mother's health? Let's start there, if you want to be an adult.

I've already given you one: because the poor girl had to save for travel. Here's another: the relationship had deteriorated to the point of domestic violence.

Your turn to research and post the other three. That is, if you want to be an adult, and be in the conversation.

#126 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-14 12:52 AM | Reply

"What are the five main reasons women get late abortions when it's NOT about fetal abnormalities or mother's health?"

I'll turn it back on you - why do you (I'm presuming here) favor limitless access to abortion just shy of birth?

#127 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-14 01:02 AM | Reply

" why do you (I'm presuming here) favor limitless access to abortion just shy of birth?"

Compassion.

I believe the minuscule few who use the eighth month for birth control should be summarily ignored. What you're doing though is denying the majority of women going through tragedies.

This clearly isn't about the fetus; it's about controlling the woman, as always.

#128 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-14 01:31 AM | Reply

" I'll turn it back on you"

Ah, so you DON'T want to start an adult conversation by educating yourself.

Duly noted.

#129 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-14 01:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"This clearly isn't about the fetus; it's about controlling the woman, as always.

#128 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

At 8 months we are not talking about a fetus any more. We are talking about a baby and it should absolutely be afforded protections to life.

#130 | Posted by BellRinger at 2024-06-14 01:41 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Witness Beautifully Slams Door On GOP Senator's Loaded Abortion Question

A witness at an abortion-rights hearing expertly rebuffed an inflammatory question from Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) on Wednesday. (Watch the video below.)

At a Senate subcommittee hearing that focused on interstate travel for abortions as more states restrict the procedure, Kennedy mentioned a woman who supposedly asked for an abortion in her 34th week of pregnancy.

Jocelyn Frye, the president of the National Partnership for Women & Families, gave Kennedy a forceful response that refused to indulge right-wing fearmongering about extremely late procedures.

"First of all, don't ask a question if you don't want to know the answer," Frye snapped. "But I'm saying to you, Senator, 1%, 1% of abortions happen at 21 weeks or later. So I think the premise of your question sets up a conversation about abortion that is unfair. It is--rarely is that ever the instance. The vast majority of pregnancies and abortions that are considered late in a pregnancy have to do with severe, devastating medical circumstances."

"And I understand your point, Senator. I understand your point. But with all due respect, I also think the chances of people sort of getting all the way through a pregnancy and just sort of saying, I don't want it,' is disrespectful to women," she added.

www.huffpost.com

#131 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2024-06-14 07:55 AM | Reply

93 percent of abortions happen at 13 weeks or less, which means women are already acting responsibly... AND that this is a Fake Issue made up by Republicans to divide the People.

#132 | Posted by Corky at 2024-06-14 09:42 AM | Reply

Given the infinite variables in pregnancies putting any time limit or nebulous definition like "life or health of the mother " is irredeemably arbitrary and capricious

That is arguably the point of time limits

#133 | Posted by truthhurts at 2024-06-14 09:55 AM | Reply

After the 1st trimester the baby would be mostly protected in my world.
#125 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

What does "after", "mostly and "protected" mean?

Does after only mean during the pregnancy or does it mean during the life of the baby up to a certain age?
Mostly can mean greater than 50%. If that's the case then you can just stop talking as 90+% of abortions occur during the first trimester.
Does mostly mean your world would allow for exceptions? If so, based on what?
Does protected mean you would guarantee the mother the right to healthcare, housing, food and other necessities and comforts that increase the chance of a healthy child? Does it mean partners with a history of violence must surrender their guns or even be removed from the home if the household is expecting a child?
Why only after the first trimester? Why don't you believe that pregnancies where the mother intends to carry through term should not be protected?

#134 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2024-06-14 10:33 AM | Reply

At 8 months we are not talking about a fetus any more."

Exactly.

We're talking about malformation, and threats to the mother's health.

You'd force her to carry a corpse, if you had your way. Her health be damned.

#135 | Posted by Danforth at 2024-06-14 12:31 PM | Reply

"To me, public education is one of the major factors that certified us as a great nation and the system has been perverted by folks with an agenda other than to give our children the best education available."

"the system"

We don't have a public school system.

We have about twelve thousand independent public schools districts.

And, that's the problem. 12,000 independent systems don't scale.

And they especially don't scale after Conservatives turned their back on public education after it was required to be racially de-segregated.

#136 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-14 12:34 PM | Reply

After the 1st trimester the baby would be mostly protected in my world.
#125 | POSTED BY BELLRINGER

How big is "the baby" at the start of the second trimester?
You've taken ----- that are twice as big.
Four times bigger in your case.

#137 | Posted by snoofy at 2024-06-14 12:45 PM | Reply

And for me it simply boils down to Body Autonomy ...A womans right to choose. PERIOD.

Anything else is just religious and or patriarchal -------

#138 | Posted by brerrabbit at 2024-06-15 08:46 AM | Reply

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