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The Trump administration said Monday that it will provide only half of the normal food stamp benefits for November by tapping into the program's contingency fund amid the government shutdown.

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JUST IN: Courts ordered SNAP payments to restart, and the Trump administration said Monday the food benefits would be half the normal payment. About 1 in 8 U.S. residents get an average of $187 a month per person on SNAP.

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"In court papers filed Monday, the administration said it decided against pulling $4 billion from other sources of money to provide full benefits for November."

Wow... the Epstein Shutdown is werking great!

#1 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-03 04:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Be grateful you're getting anything.

Is free stuff from the government a "right"?

Before anyone quotes the Bible about feeding the hungry, the Bible doesn't say people don't have personal responsibility or they should get more than enough needed.

Eat frugal like the rest of us do when times are tight.

#2 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 06:36 PM | Reply

Be grateful you're getting anything.
Is free stuff from the government a "right"?
Before anyone quotes the Bible about feeding the hungry, the Bible doesn't say people don't have personal responsibility or they should get more than enough needed.
Eat frugal like the rest of us do when times are tight.

Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 06:36 PM | Reply

How "Christian" of you BillJohnson.

#3 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-11-03 06:41 PM | Reply

@#2 ... Is free stuff from the government a "right"? ...

That's a mischaracterization.

It is not a right, but it is the law.

... Eat frugal like the rest of us do when times are tight. ...

Said by someone who obviously has enough money for food, and seems to show no concern for those who do not.


#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 06:58 PM | Reply

"Americans dumbfounded by cruelty' of Trump officials slashing Snap benefits

A NBC News polls released on Sunday found 52% blamed Trump and his allies for the shutdown, as opposed to 42% who fault the Democrats.

The Guardian wanted to know how important Snap was to the approximately 42 million people enrolled in the program. Many of those who responded to our callout were elderly, or out of the workforce because of significant mental of physical health issues, and worried that a cutoff of the benefit would send their lives into a tailspin.

"I am housebound because I need a couple of spinal cord surgeries so this is really gonna hurt me because I cannot work, and thereby earn money to put food on the table," said Taras Stratelak, a retiree in southern California.

Referencing a refrain of Trump and the GOP as they have downsized federal aid programs, Stratelak wrote: "I guess I'm lazy, or maybe I'm waste, fraud and abuse."

www.theguardian.com

And BJ... shame on your unconcerned hypocritical ass. Are you still giving BJs, btw... I hear Trump has a mushroom for you.

;;

"When you give a banquet, invite the poor, the crippled, the lame, and the blind, and you will be blessed. They cannot repay you, and you will be repaid at the resurrection of the just." " Luke 14:13-14

Which is the attitude that a Nation that loves to CLAIM they are a Christian Nation ought to have.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-03 07:01 PM | Reply

Meanwhile, while Pres trump is cutting SNAP benefits for those who need the food, he hosts a "Great Gatsby" costume party at his Florida estate.

Trump slammed for lavish Gatsby-themed Halloween party as vital food funding lapses for millions of Americans
www.independent.co.uk

... President Donald Trump has been blasted for attending a lavish Great Gatsby-themed Halloween party at Mar-a-Lago hours before a vital food assistance program relied upon by millions of Americans was about to lapse.

Some 42 million Americans rely on the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program but because of the on-going government shutdown, funding for the critical scheme ended on November 1.

Meanwhile, Trump was pictured enjoying himself at the Halloween bash at his Palm Beach residence, surrounded by guests in Roaring 20s-style getup.

Gatsby and "a little party never killed nobody" was the "official theme" of the night, according to the Associated Press.

Prominent Democrats accused the president of prioritizing his "billionaire" friends over the American people.

"Donald Trump hosted a Great Gatsby party while SNAP benefits were about to disappear for 42 million Americans," said California Governor Gavin Newsom in a post on X. "He does not give a damn about you." ...

"The way he rubs his inhumanity in Americans' face never ceases to stun me," said Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut. "He's illegally refusing to pay food stamp benefits ... while he throws a ridiculously over the top Gatsby party for his right wing millionaire and corporate friends." ...


#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 07:07 PM | Reply

Corky,

Forget your judgement of me.
I'm very much a Christian.

I'll remind you again.

In America, the First Amendment says Christians must not use Biblical scripture for making laws or justifying policy.

And neither can the unsaved who use the Bible as a weapon.

I'm not blind to the hunger that exists in the world. It's astounding how much wealth the rich hoard.

Then I remember that the US holds nearly twice the wealth that China does, and Russia's share is a dismal fraction.

If it has to be hoarded somewhere, I'd rather it be here than under tyranny.

I'd venture to guess running a country is tougher than we know finding the right balance helping American citizens without giving away the store and enriching your enemies.

I'll say it once more. Develop a grateful attitude, and learn to be content with what you have.

#7 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 07:36 PM | Reply

#7

I see that people with nothing should "learn to be content with what they have".... like the woman quoted above:

"I am housebound because I need a couple of spinal cord surgeries so this is really gonna hurt me because I cannot work, and thereby earn money to put food on the table," said Taras Stratelak, a retiree in southern California.

;;

You have a lot to learn, BJ... the Gove taking care of the poor is common instruction in both the NT and the OT... and you should really start here:

"Caring for the Poor is Government's Biblical Role

And the Scriptures say that governmental authority is to protect the poor in particular. The biblical prophets are consistent and adamant in their condemnation of injustice to the poor, and frequently follow their statements by requiring the king (the government) to act justly.

That prophetic expectation did not apply only to the kings of Israel but was also extended to the kings of neighboring lands and peoples.

Jeremiah, speaking of King Josiah, said, "He defended the cause of the poor and needy, and so all went well."

Notice that Sider says "fair outcomes" and not "equal outcomes."

The political right's continuing accusation against all who would hold governments accountable for justice is that we are really aiming for equal outcomes from public policy. But that simply is not true.".

sojo.net

Now, I know you won't read that because you never do; your brain is calcified in one position and it isn't interested in new information. That would be inconvenient for you.

Pity that.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-03 07:47 PM | Reply

Corky,

Unfortunately, a lot of people today are starting to sound like Sally Brown, Charlie Brown's little sister in A Charlie Brown Christmas.

When Charlie asked her what she wanted for Christmas, Sally said:

"All I really want is what I have coming to me. All I want is my fair share."

Sally and Gordon Gekko ("Greed is Good") have summed up modern American values.

#9 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 07:51 PM | Reply

#9

That's pathetic. You should just throw your bible in the garbage for all you've learned from it.

Perhaps you need real Christian to tell you which way is up:

www.youtube.com

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-03 07:54 PM | Reply

@#6 ... President Donald Trump has been blasted for attending a lavish Great Gatsby-themed Halloween party at Mar-a-Lago hours before a vital food assistance program relied upon by millions of Americans was about to lapse. ...

"Let them eat cake."

#11 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 07:57 PM | Reply

from the link you didn't read in #8:

"The words of Paul in the 13th chapter of Romans are perhaps the most extensive teaching in the New Testament about the role and purposes of government.

Paul says those purposes are twofold: to restrain evil by punishing evildoers and to serve peace and orderly conduct by rewarding good behavior. Civil authority is designed to be "God's servant for your good" (13:4).

Today we might say "the common good" is to be the focus and goal of government.

So the purpose of government, according to Paul, is to protect and promote. Protect from the evil and promote the good, and we are even instructed to pay taxes for those purposes.

So to disparage government per se " to see government as the central problem in society " is simply not a biblical position."

#12 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-03 07:57 PM | Reply

@#8 ... You have a lot to learn, BJ... ...

Oh, I think that current alias knows exactly what it is doing.

It always seems to want to deflect the discussion away from a factual-based discussion, preferring instead to move the discussion to some ambiguous religious dogma.

Like a couple of the other trolling current aliases here, it seems to revel in the number of replies, rather than actually contributing.

But that's just my opinion.

:)


#13 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 08:01 PM | Reply

Corky,

If you were to be saved and become a Christian, you might make a powerful evangelist.

First, you'd have to see Christianity in its entirety and not select parts you support.

It's too bad you're only imitating someone saved.

You're almost only a prayer away. You have a good heart.

Christians should pray for you.

#14 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 08:01 PM | Reply

Lamp,

My mind is aware of many things.

You can't spend your life focusing on trees and ignore the forest.

I'm continually learning.

#15 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 08:04 PM | Reply

I come here daily and am constantly reminded at the utter immorality of the magat scum.

Bill, you are a reprehensible person. You are a hateful person.

You think you are a good person, a Christian, yet you fail in expressing even the most basic form of morality

I am truly grateful I am not like you, that I can look on 40 MILLION people and say WHO CARES that they are going hungry.

These are people that have been fucked over for decades by right wing policies.

The often work for big corporations who pay them less than a livable wage, because primarily republican politicians refuse to do even the most basic things to help them

I honestly do not know how people like you sleep at night. Words do not begin to describe how vile you and your ideology are

You use the bible to defend your selfishness and then you use the 1st amendment so say you cannot be chastised for your attitude

You claim Americans are somehow immune to hunger because we are rich

Every day I think magat scum couldn't get worse and then here we are.

#16 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-03 08:05 PM | Reply

Corky,
If you were to be saved and become a Christian, you might make a powerful evangelist.
First, you'd have to see Christianity in its entirety and not select parts you support.
It's too bad you're only imitating someone saved.
You're almost only a prayer away. You have a good heart.
Christians should pray for you.

#14 | Posted by BillJohnson a

the fucking hubris

Fuck you faux christian

#17 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-03 08:06 PM | Reply

Lamp,
My mind is aware of many things.
You can't spend your life focusing on trees and ignore the forest.
I'm continually learning.
#15 | Posted by BillJohnson at

If you are aware and have your attitude you only condemn yourself further.

You are not a good person bill

#18 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-03 08:06 PM | Reply

#14

In the post you didn't grok, Paul the Apostle said that Gov is to provide for the common good of it's people.

Apparently eating isn't in their common good in your twisted view. You are a laughingstock here, and an embarrassment to all people who aren't as self concerned as you, not just Christians.

#19 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-03 08:10 PM | Reply

I'd venture to guess running a country is tougher than we know finding the right balance helping American citizens without giving away the store and enriching your enemies.
I'll say it once more. Develop a grateful attitude, and learn to be content with what you have.

#7 | Posted by BillJohnson

How much does a ballroom cost
How much does infinite golf trips cost
How many people could $230,000,000 feed
How much money is the president grifting
How many people could be fed upgrading a plane
How much money do parades cost

IOW you're a fucking idiot with the morals of a gutter rat

#20 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-03 08:10 PM | Reply

BTW if bill is a troll, which I suspect, he puts jeff to shame

#21 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-03 08:11 PM | Reply

Lamp,

I don't revel in replies.

But I do have a perspective that tends to be my own, which can appear to be wandering.

Whether or not I'm contributing is up to the reader.

#22 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 08:13 PM | Reply

Truth,

And Lamp accuses ME of deflecting!

#23 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 08:15 PM | Reply

Truth,
And Lamp accuses ME of deflecting!

#23 | Posted by BillJohnson

Non-sequitor idiot

#24 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-11-03 08:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#22 ... I don't revel in replies.

But I do have a perspective that tends to be my own, which can appear to be wandering. ...

Wandering? Or deflecting?

#25 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 08:16 PM | Reply

@#23 ... And Lamp accuses ME of deflecting! ...

Case in point.

:)

#26 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 08:18 PM | Reply

- which can appear to be wandering.

Appear wandering? It's practically Lost in Space/

#27 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-03 08:18 PM | Reply

@#15 ... You can't spend your life focusing on trees and ignore the forest. ...

Oh, I agree.

That's why I often take a step back and post about the bigger picture when it relates specifically to the topic being discussed.

#28 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 08:20 PM | Reply

And, back to the topic at hand ...

The Trump administration said Monday that it will provide only half of the normal food stamp benefits for November by tapping into the program's contingency fund amid the government shutdown ...

The Trump admin had said they have no authority to tap into those funds.

Why might they suddenly be able to do so now?


#29 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 08:22 PM | Reply

Corky,

"Paul the Apostle said that Gov is to provide for the common good of it's people."

I'd like your verse you are referring to. I believe you are interpreting something or taking some words out of context.

Paul said, "Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do."

I took it out of context and going to build a church where all members must be single.

After all Paul said it.

#30 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 08:26 PM | Reply

Corky,

Now...leaving the Bible thumping out of the thread, I do agree funds should have been found and I agree with the way it has been handled so far.

It would have been terrible for the Democrats to prevent all SNAP benefits like they are currently doing. They want to extend something that only passed because it had an expiration date. Now the Democrats are exploiting the system to get their way.

I still say live frugal and be grateful.

#31 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 08:37 PM | Reply

NOT out of context.

Read the quote in #12.

From the OT Kings and Priests to the NT Apostles, Gov is responsible for the common good of the people. IF you read what you are provided, you wouldn't sound so dim.

I hope you are intentionally dense, and not just dense.

#32 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-03 08:41 PM | Reply

@#30

Still trying to deflect, I see.


So lame.

What else yer current trolling alias got?


#33 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 08:48 PM | Reply

#31

Bible Bill doesn't like it when the bible disagrees with his rwing paranoia.

The Gov is Shutdown because your Cult Leader wants to kill the ACA BEFORE the GOP has a Plan to replace it, which is classic Cart before the Horse inanity.

Well, and because if they opened the Gov, the Epstein File would be released.

You haven't the first clue.

#34 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-03 08:53 PM | Reply

@#32 ... I hope you are intentionally dense ...

It seems to have a goal, i.e., not to discuss millions Americans possibly going hungry because of Pres Trump.

#35 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 08:54 PM | Reply

Corky,

Just as I suspected.

Even before Jesus, Jewish leaders interpreted scripture and enforced their own interpretations.

And that's been the practice ever since.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but when is 'enough' enough.

"For Good" has many meanings.

Converting new believers is also "For Good" and I would say is Paul's primary "purpose".

#36 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 08:55 PM | Reply

@#34 ... Bible Bill doesn't like it when the bible disagrees with his rwing paranoia.

The Gov is Shutdown because your Cult Leader wants to kill the ACA BEFORE the GOP has a Plan to replace it, which is classic Cart before the Horse inanity.

Well, and because if they opened the Gov, the Epstein File would be released.

You haven't the first clue. ...

I agree for the most part.

The part I disagree with is that it does not have a clue.

imo, it knows exactly what it is doing with its trolling.


#37 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 08:56 PM | Reply

Corky,

Paul also wrote in a letter,

2 Thessalonians 3:10
"For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat."
We hear that some among you are idle and disruptive. They are not busy; they are busybodies.
Such people we command and urge in the Lord Jesus Christ to settle down and earn the food they eat."

I was pointing out earlier you can't extract verses and build a church around it. Throughout the Bible we are commanded to be productive and not lazy.

#38 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 09:07 PM | Reply

@#8 ... Throughout the Bible we are commanded to be productive and not lazy. ...

There's that Republican implication that those receiving SNAP benefits are lazy.

What's yer current trolling alias got to substantiate that?

#39 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 09:10 PM | Reply

#38

That quote refers to Church Members, BJ. Like I said, you haven't a clue.

- Converting new believers is also "For Good" and I would say is Paul's primary "purpose".

More absolute nonsense.

Paul's only goal is conversions, not teaching the Church how to be Christians?

Ridiculous.

#40 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-03 09:11 PM | Reply

Americans dumbfounded by cruelty' of Trump officials slashing Snap benefits
www.theguardian.com

... Across the country, Americans who depend on government help to buy groceries are preparing for the worst.

As a result of the ongoing federal government shutdown, Donald Trump has threatened to, for the first time in the program's more than 60-year history, cut off benefits provided by the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance program (Snap). A federal judge last week prevented the US Department of Agriculture from suspending Snap altogether, but the Trump administration now says enrollees will receive only half of their usual benefits.

The Guardian wanted to know how important Snap was to the approximately 42 million people enrolled in the program. Many of those who responded to our callout were elderly, or out of the workforce because of significant mental of physical health issues, and worried that a cutoff of the benefit would send their lives into a tailspin.

"I am housebound because I need a couple of spinal cord surgeries so this is really gonna hurt me because I cannot work, and thereby earn money to put food on the table," said Taras Stratelak, a retiree in southern California. ...


#41 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 09:12 PM | Reply

Corky,

If you're going to be the preacher, here's part of the "entirety" I was referring to.

Christianity is not designed around being a government food program.

It's about personal responsibility.

Just like you are personally responsible for being saved.

Jesus is holding the door open for you, but it's on you to walk through it.

Christianity is, at its core, about personal accountability and the choices we make with the freedom God gives us.

#42 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 09:15 PM | Reply

Lamp,

I don't doubt there are hardship stories out there in the millions.

Being America and not legally a "Christian Nation", that makes this problem a secular issue separate from religion.

Democrates should stop thinking they are America's savior.

They should work with Trump and drop the arrogance.

#43 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 09:22 PM | Reply

There is no working with Trump. He's insane.

#44 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-11-03 09:23 PM | Reply

- Christianity is not designed around being a government food program.

It's designed to serve the poor and downtrodden, from the OT to the NT.

- it's on you to walk through it.

Fuck you and your condescending crap.

- you are personally responsible for being saved.

Still stupid.

Christianity is Not a Meritocracy

AI Overview
Christianity is not a meritocracy because its core is based on God's grace, not on earning salvation through works or merit. Instead of a system where one must earn their place, the Christian faith emphasizes a gift of salvation through faith in Jesus Christ, who is believed to have earned all true blessings and died for human sins.

This is why religious practices or societal status do not make someone more worthy in God's eyes than someone who feels like a failure."

www.google.com

#45 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-03 09:24 PM | Reply

@#43 .. I don't doubt there are hardship stories out there in the millions. ...

Tens of millions.

... Democrates should stop thinking they are America's savior.

They should work with Trump and drop the arrogance. ...

I am not of the opinion that it is the Democrats who are in the possession of arrogance.

The Democrats have shown a willingness to talk with their Republican colleaguesb in Congress.

Yet Spkr Johnson still keeps the House adjourned because of the Epstein files.


#46 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 09:33 PM | Reply

Alex,

"There is no working with Trump. He's insane."

Sounds like I'm correct in my opinion.

They are stubborn and refusing to cooperate.

#47 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 09:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

@#47 ... Sounds like I'm correct in my opinion.

They are stubborn and refusing to cooperate. ...

Cooperate? With Pres Trump?

Pres Trump is more along the lines of "do as I tell you to do."

Cooperation does not seem to be an option unless you blindly obey what he tells you to do.

So, please explain how your trolling alias' opinion is correct in this instance?


#48 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 09:40 PM | Reply

Lamp,

From AI,

"The claim "he kept the House adjourned because of the Epstein files" is allegation. The reporting shows a correlation (adjournment + delay of vote) and an accusation of motive, but not a definitive confirmation of motive from Johnson's side.

Johnson has publicly denied that motive and framed the decisions within broader procedural or political grounds. So while you're right to say it is being done and is slowing the vote, saying this is definitely why leaves out the speaker's explanation.

The vote isn't yet forced simply because the coalition for the petition isn't fully in place (though close), and procedural rules still apply. So the situation is dynamic."

What you say to AI?

#49 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 09:40 PM | Reply

Ill read it later. Need to help wife

#50 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 09:41 PM | Reply

Is it possible that the contingency fund was secretly repurposed?

#51 | Posted by TenMile at 2025-11-03 09:45 PM | Reply

There is no working with Trump.

Negotiating with Lewzer is simple. You give him everything he wants, and in return he will give you nothing.

#52 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-03 09:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#49 ... Johnson has publicly denied that motive ...

Quelle surprise.

... What you say to AI? ...

AI is still learning. In some areas it is good, in others, it seems to have have hallucinations.

I do note that when Spkr Johnson has been asked about the reason he is keeping the House on vacation, each time he seemed to have a different reason (excuse?).

That tells me that he is afraid to say the real reason.

That aside, that your current trolling alias seems to need AI to back up it's assertions is telling.


What, it cannot think for itself?

Oh wait, with all the Bible quotes it proffers (without specifying which translation of the Bible it is using), it does appear to have an inability of individual thought.



Thanks for posting that comment.

#53 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 09:53 PM | Reply

#52 | POSTED BY REDIAL

When do you need to turn in the deed to your property to the First Nations?


So, please explain how your trolling alias' opinion is correct in this instance?

Because you disagree with it ... this is a tell, lets me know, he's 99% correct.

#54 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-11-03 09:55 PM | Reply

@#51 ... Is it possible that the contingency fund was secretly repurposed? ...

That's an interesting question.

At this point, the answer looks to be in the Judicial branch.


#55 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 10:01 PM | Reply

@#52 ... Negotiating with Lewzer is simple. You give him everything he wants, and in return he will give you nothing. ...

Yup.

Worth a repeat.

#56 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 10:05 PM | Reply

Gangster. Pay to play?

Trump is an Opportunist and totally self absorbed.

Al Capone as President?

No limit to what he can Legally Do?

Trump sure did stack that Supreme Court.

He's got the powers of a King.

And Does Nothing Coherent with them.

Except ENRICH himself.

Like an African Dictator.

And Bill Johnson Licks his Gaping Asshole.

#57 | Posted by Effeteposer at 2025-11-03 10:47 PM | Reply

Lamp,

People have always relied on different sources for information. AI is just the newest one. Why be pompous about it?

I told it today it's been wrong four times this month and honestly, it's been slipping compared to a year ago.

Maybe version 5, or maybe it's just getting rushed from overuse.

#58 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 10:48 PM | Reply

Lamp,

Fyi...I may recall a verse and ask for full verse or I may recall something I read Paul said have AI find it.

Have you seen the Strong's Concordance?

I just asked it, "Where does Bible say a wise man seeks council"

#59 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 10:58 PM | Reply

@#58 ... AI is just the newest one. Why be pompous about it? ...

How am I being pompous for saying in #53 that, "AI is still learning. In some areas it is good, in others, it seems to have have hallucinations."

And I do note the apparent deflection attempt (more the norm with your current trolling alias, it seems) to deflect away from the gist of my comment about Spkr Johnson's lame inability to explain why he will not re-convene the House.

Doesn't Spkr Johnson's actions to prevent the House from working concern your current trolling alias in the least?


Do try harder.


#60 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 10:59 PM | Reply

@#59 ... "Where does Bible say ...

Yet another deflection attempt.

Have fun with that.

#61 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 11:01 PM | Reply

Proverbs 11:14

NKJV:

Where there is no counsel, the people fall;
But in the multitude of counselors there is safety.

NLT:

Without wise leadership, a nation falls;
there is safety in having many advisers.

#62 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 11:01 PM | Reply

Lamp,

"How am I being pompous for saying in #53 that, "AI is still learning."

You're not.

"your current trolling alias seems to need AI to back up it's assertions is telling"

Pompous

#63 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 11:03 PM | Reply

@#63 ... You're not. ...

Then why did your trolling current alias say I was?

Yet another deflection attempt?


#64 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 11:12 PM | Reply

@63

Were you born a pompous ass or did you get a PhD in it?

#65 | Posted by Corky at 2025-11-03 11:13 PM | Reply

Many families struggle as food stamp benefits remain unclear
www.deseret.com

... Even as the Trump administration has agreed to provide partial food stamp payments for November, food banks and food pantries are busier than usual in what's usually a busy month.

And no one is sure how soon those partial payments will arrive, though the undersecretary of the Department of Agriculture said in a court filing that in some cases, it could be weeks or months.

The bottom line for thousands of families, including the 1 in 20 in Utah who rely on food stamps for at least part of their food, is uncertainty about the future and no benefits at the moment. ...


#66 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 11:14 PM | Reply

Food pantry lines grow as SNAP recipients wait for their benefits to restart
pix11.com

... Tens of millions of food stamp recipients will now get partial funding across the New York region for November after the Trump administration was ordered by a federal court to release some funds.

On Monday, Attorney General Letitia James says food pantry lines across New York are growing longer by the day, as SNAP recipients wait for their benefits to restart.

She spent Monday evening serving meals at a Brooklyn church, meeting families who depend on SNAP benefits.

"The problem has gotten worse as a result of the cuts to SNAP," said James.

Just days ago, James and 24 other states sued the U.S. Department of Agriculture, accusing it of unlawfully halting benefits during the government shutdown. A judge has now ordered partial funding, meaning recipients will get only about half their usual monthly amount -- for now.

"The problem is operationalizing, getting the funds to these EBT cards. They tell me it's going to take 10 - 12 days to upload the federal funds so that individuals can purchase food." ...


#67 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 11:16 PM | Reply

Btw...

NKJ and NLB are my current preferred translations.

NKJ traditional rhythm of original but easier to understand. 9th grade reading level.

NLB natural modern English 6th grade reading level.

I bounce between the 2.

#68 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 11:17 PM | Reply

So, Democrats seem to be trying to work around the problem that Pres Trump caused, and provide help to the hungry.

And then there's a troll here that seems to proffer that [an unspecified translation of] the Bible has all the solutions.


#69 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 11:19 PM | Reply

@#69

OK, I posted too soon..

From #68 ...

... 9th grade reading level. ...

... 6th grade reading level. ...


OK, my first question might be, if your current trolling alias admits there are multiple versions of translations of the Bible, which one is correct?

Stated differently, maybe your current trolling alias might want to start up a thread to discuss the various versions of the translation of the Bible, and how they might be interpreted.

Instead of incessantly trying to deflect thread topics with religious beliefs as facts.


#70 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-03 11:30 PM | Reply

Lamp,

I just hope they end this budget mess soon so the media will stop acting like America's a third-world country.

And of course, only the Democrats care.

Maybe their new slogan should be, "No one cares more than us!" complete with a food-line photo op with all the usual democrats standing behind the tables, with ladles in hand, pouring soup.

#71 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 11:34 PM | Reply

Lamp,

"OK, my first question might be..."

Phewww... I was half-expecting you to ask why I read a Bible written at a sixth-grade reading level.

There are several versions out there, and I wouldn't presume to tell anyone which one to read...but...it really doesn't matter.

Just start reading one (though I'd personally avoid the King James). A great place to begin is with Paul's letters to the early churches in the New Testament where he addresses real issues.

We've all seen enough Jesus movies. I wouldn't start with The Gospels. We already know how it ends.

Historically, those churches that received Paul's letters copied them and shared them with other churches. He had a major influence on Christianity after he changed his name from Saul (who...cough ...cough...persecuted Christians).

That's how Christianity began to take form. Paul personally knew several of the Apostles who had traveled with Jesus, though he never met Jesus Himself.

#72 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-03 11:56 PM | Reply

And of course, only the Democrats care.

It is a fact that they do care more.

It's still not much, but it's more than zero.

The Repubs have nothing by cynical theater and rubes like you lap it up like it's going out of style.

#73 | Posted by jpw at 2025-11-04 12:07 AM | Reply

@#71 ... I just hope they end this budget mess soon so the media will stop acting like America's a third-world country. ...

"They" is Pres Trump.

What else yer got?

#74 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-04 12:15 AM | Reply

@#72 ... I was half-expecting you to ask why I read a Bible written at a sixth-grade reading level. ...

How little your trolling current alias seems to know.


... There are several versions out there, and I wouldn't presume to tell anyone which one to read...but...it really doesn't matter. ...

Oh, it does.

And I have cited differences among the various interpretations in the past.

But, maybe your current trolling alias shoudl start a new thread on that topic, if that seems to be important to it?

Or is it more concerned about trolling than discussion?


And, if I may be so bold to ask, why has it not done so?


#75 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-04 12:20 AM | Reply

@#73 ... It is a fact that they do care more.

It's still not much, but it's more than zero.

The Repubs have nothing ...

Yup.

That may be the main reason why we see the various flavors of trolling his on this most august site.


#76 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-04 12:23 AM | Reply

Lamp,

I must have missed it.

Which version do you consider best for casual readers and not someone reading for study?

#77 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-04 12:25 AM | Reply

Or is it more concerned about trolling than discussion?

Not so much trolling as deflecting from the thread topic: Lewzer only paying for half of food stamps in November.

#78 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-04 12:31 AM | Reply

Lamp,

A discussion of the merits of each could likely be put in a single post.

I'm a casual reader. I have purchased many and is why I bought the "Trump" Bible. It could be called the "I'm proud to be an American" Bible since it contains the Constitution.

Anyway...I prefer ease of reading and if I read something that seems to be lacking (something I thought was included in the verse and is missing), I might take out English Standard or New American Standard and compare. New King James is really good for comparing. The closest to King James but actually readable.

#79 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-04 12:34 AM | Reply

Redial,

The floor is yours.

Start complaining.

#80 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-04 12:35 AM | Reply

It could be called the "I'm proud to be an American MAGA merch" Bible since it contains the Constitution.

#81 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-04 12:36 AM | Reply

Redial,

How did draw a line thru? Would you tell me what you put at then beg and end?

#82 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-04 12:39 AM | Reply

Redial,

If you need to spell it out, I understand since you would initiate the line.

Left bracket... Right bracket (I assume)

#83 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-04 12:40 AM | Reply

Would you tell me what you put at then beg and end?

strike and /strike

#84 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-04 12:41 AM | Reply

I found it.

#85 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-04 12:48 AM | Reply

Well done.

#86 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-11-04 12:50 AM | Reply

I'm a programmer now

#87 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-04 12:51 AM | Reply

@#77 ... Which version do you consider best ...

That's my issue.

Is there a "best" version, or just a version that tells you what you want to hear?


@#79 ... A discussion of the merits of each could likely be put in a single post. ...

So, why does your current trolling alias not put up that single post?

... .I prefer ease of reading ...

So... ease of reading over factual content?

Yeah, your current trolling alias really needs to put up that thread, and stop trying to deflect away from Americans going hungry.




#88 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-04 12:52 AM | Reply

@#78 ... Not so much trolling as deflecting from the thread topic: ...

The difference is not a significant one, imo.

#89 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-04 12:53 AM | Reply

Pink Floyd - Fearless (1971)
www.youtube.com

Lyrics excerpt ...

genius.com

... "Fearless" is the third track on Pink Floyd's sixth studio album Meddle, and was the b-side to "One of These Days".

This A-side/B-side pairing is interesting, as "One Of These Days" is considered a jab at a DJ the band disliked, while this song is most likely giving thanks to BBC1 DJ John Peel for his prolonged support of Pink Floyd since the earliest days. ...

[Verse 1]
You say the hill's too steep to climb
Chiding
You say you'd like to see me try
Climbing
You pick the place and I'll choose the time

[Chorus]
And I'll climb the hill in my own way
Just wait a while for the right day
And as I rise above the tree line and the clouds
I look down, hear the sound of the things you said today

[Verse 2]
Fearlessly the idiot faced the crowd
Smiling
Merciless the magistrate turns 'round
Frowning
And who's the fool who wears the crown?

[Chorus]
And go down in your own way
And every day is the right day
And as you rise above the fear-lines in his brow
You look down, hear the sound of the faces in the crowd
...


Yeah, Pink Floyd had some great tunes before Dark Side of the Moon hit the charts.

#90 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-04 01:02 AM | Reply

Lamp,

I looked into it, and apparently the translations tied to the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Mormons have some controversial parts.

That doesn't concern me. The versions I use are considered reliable.

When in doubt, I just compare them.

What would you like to add?

#91 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-04 01:30 AM | Reply

@#91 ... What would you like to add? ...

The same question I have been asking for a while now...

If your current trolling alias wants to talk about its, and the various other interpretations of the Bible, why does it not just start a thread for that, instead of spending so much effort to divert a discussion about Americans going hungry because of Pres Trump?

Is that question too difficult for your current trolling alias to understand?

Asked differently, why does it seem to be so afraid of discussing how Pres Trump seems to be enjoying tens of millions of Americans possibly going hungry, while he hosts a Great Gatsby party?

At this point, your current trolling alias' attempt to hide behind Christianity seems to be little more than a smudge upon Christianity beliefs.

So, what else it got?






#92 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-04 01:49 AM | Reply

Lamp,

I talked about SNAP at first and the usual posters brought Christianity and Bible verses into the conversation.

Ask them why they bring scripture into threads.

And you're the one who brought in the added element of translations when you said I post a verse but don't say what translation it came from.

I think I've exhausted amything I might add. I do put the blame on Democrats for this budget fiasco.

#93 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-11-04 02:04 AM | Reply

@#93 ... I talked about SNAP at first and the usual posters brought Christianity and Bible verses into the conversation. ...

Oh please, in its #2 comment, it said...

From #2 ...

Before anyone quotes the Bible about feeding the hungry, the Bible doesn't say people don't have personal responsibility or they should get more than enough needed.

Eat frugal like the rest of us do when times are tight. ...


That is the first reference to the Bible that I see in this thread. Does it have an earlier citation?

Or... now the troll seems to be trying to change what it has stated?

#94 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-04 02:13 AM | Reply

@#92 ... Asked differently, why does it seem to be so afraid of discussing how Pres Trump seems to be enjoying tens of millions of Americans possibly going hungry, while he hosts a Great Gatsby party? ...

Worth asking once again.


And Great Gatsby.

The wealthy of the 1920' partying while the non-wealthy suffered.

Not the best optics, by any means.

Is that why Pres Trump wants to build his huge ballroom, so he and his billionaire friends can party while Americans suffer?


#95 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-04 02:18 AM | Reply

Can one of you religious freaks explain to the group why you want to wax poetically about your religious freakism?

Don't get me wrong. I was baptized in the Methodist church at age twelve. That was pretty much my end to religious freakism, also something I pretty much keep to myself. If only the other freaks would do the same.

#96 | Posted by et_al at 2025-11-04 02:24 AM | Reply

Ha, I hit the reverse 69. Tribute to Lee.

#97 | Posted by et_al at 2025-11-04 02:28 AM | Reply

@#97 ... I hit the reverse 69. Tribute to Lee. ...

I do not understand that comment.

Can you elaborate?

thx.

#98 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-04 02:38 AM | Reply

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