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Republicans, in the peak of cruelty, are turning the L.A. fires into a political bargaining chip.
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So, they are discussing tying the money California desperately needs cause of the wildfires to giving Trump the ability to give the richest people in this country massive tax cuts. Fucking evil. ow.ly/5E2C105WIUB[image or embed] -- Maxwell Frost (@maxwellfrost.bsky.social) January 13, 2025 at 5:08 PM
So, they are discussing tying the money California desperately needs cause of the wildfires to giving Trump the ability to give the richest people in this country massive tax cuts. Fucking evil. ow.ly/5E2C105WIUB[image or embed]
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More: On Monday, House Speaker Mike Johnson told CNN's Manu Raju that there should be "conditions" on the proposed federal aid to California in the wake of the deadly wildfires in Los Angeles County.
"It appears to us that state and local leaders were derelict in their duty in many respects, so that's something that has to be factored in. I think there should probably be conditions on that aid."
Asked whether he planned on conditioning the aid to debt ceiling negotiations, Johnson said that option is on the table. "There's some discussion about that, but we'll see where it goes."
#1 | Posted by qcp at 2025-01-14 10:36 AM | Reply
Mike Johnson is a freak.
#2 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-14 10:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
@#1 ... I think there should probably be conditions on that aid." ...
... and those conditions are?
Maybe a good first condition would be to act to solve the cause instead of the symptom, so maybe the GOP should change their stance on climate change?
#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-14 02:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
Hey there, Mike: in the future be sure to have all nine GOP congresscritters from California standing behind you when it comes to delivering comments like this. I'm sure they will gladly sell out their constituents to spurious nonsense about their home state, put forth from your mouth. While you're at it, go ahead and retract your requests for federal dough for New Orleans security--everyone knows its good enough already...
#4 | Posted by catdog at 2025-01-14 02:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Get used to it, it will only get worse.
#5 | Posted by bat4255 at 2025-01-14 03:05 PM | Reply
Let's call it what it is ~ BLACKMAIL
California is not the only state Trump intends to blackmail to get federal disaster aid.
He's desperate to get that tax cut bill passed for his wealthy supporters. Even if hundreds of people have to die in a disaster for lack of federal aid.
#6 | Posted by Twinpac at 2025-01-14 07:24 PM | Reply
Let's call it what it is ~ BLACKMAIL - twinpac
I recall north Carolina people saying the same thing.
Sad US government is playing --- for tat.
Oh well.
#7 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-14 07:33 PM | Reply
The foul orange pedo has a long history of withholding aid.
apnews.com
#8 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-01-14 07:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
"What The F**k Is Wrong With You?": Jon Stewart Burns GOPers Over Ugliest New Hypocrisy
www.huffpost.com
#9 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-14 07:42 PM | Reply
If anyone needs more proof the Republican Party has nothing to offer this nation, it's the act of withholding aid to people in need.
From the bottom of my heart, F**k them and all their supporters.
#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-14 07:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
It's not blackmail. It's punishment.
#11 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-01-14 07:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
I thought there were more Trump loving republicans in California than anywhere else.
Further, I thought it was republicans who were the bottom feeding leeches on the govt ---.
I read what Johnson said....it's quite vague. Not sure what he really wants in exchange for the aid.
when will a bill be procured and voted on?
#12 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-14 07:53 PM | Reply
Was this comment supposed to mean something?
Not sure what he really wants in exchange for the aid.
Exchange? When has the federal government ever needed an exchange in order to provide federal assistance to a state hit by a natural disaster?
Face it. Republicans are horrible people.
#13 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-14 08:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6
re: #9 Clownshack
Megyn Kelly has gone full moron. Probably because the dumb audience she panders to has gotten even dumber
#14 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-01-14 08:28 PM | Reply
@#13 ... Exchange? When has the federal government ever needed an exchange in order to provide federal assistance to a state hit by a natural disaster? ...
Exactly.
#15 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-14 08:28 PM | Reply
Exactly. #15 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER
Ukraine.
The White House has asked Congress for a supplemental funding bill that adds money to FEMA's depleted Disaster Relief Fund (DRF). The request will also include billions in new funding for military aid to Ukraine in its battle against Russia. The intent of the request is to put Republican politicians into a corner, forcing them to choose between their support for hurricane victims and their opposition to sending additional taxpayer money to Ukraine.
Of course, irresponsibly forcing bloated "must-pass" bills through Congress to fund an expensive, far-off war effort lacking in accountability or oversight is nothing new for the D.C. establishment. But this latest effort doesn't merely break standard procedure in the House and Senate, it also betrays the very definition of what it means to be a representative of the people. www.heritage.org
#16 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-14 08:47 PM | Reply
Republicans didn't win.
#17 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-14 08:48 PM | Reply
The question: "When has the federal government ever needed an exchange in order to provide federal assistance to a state hit by a natural disaster?"
1MissingChromosome's response: "Ukraine"
Is call his a waste or time and a moron.
But, that's pretty evident.
#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-14 08:51 PM | Reply
@#16 ... Ukraine. ...
Can you say, ~lame deflection attempt?~
I knew you could.
These are Americans suffering.
#19 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-14 09:00 PM | Reply
Oops:
I'd call him a waste of time and a moron.
#20 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-14 09:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Trump has done an outstanding job dividing the nation.
MAGAts regularly vote against the best interests of our country and our people.
#21 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-14 09:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
Another MAGAT with a target on his back. Good luck Moses. You won't see the promised land.
#22 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-01-14 09:45 PM | Reply
#16
---- off you stupid ----.
#23 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-01-14 09:45 PM | Reply
That @mohu dude @mohusseini.com
Los Angeles COUNTY alone pays more in Federal taxes than all but 4 US states.
So maybe Congresscritters from places like Grand Wizard Junction, Alabama and Fentanyl Heights, Ohio should shut the f**k up.
#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-14 10:24 PM | Reply
Even the last criminal moron republican president didn't blackmail New Orleans after Katrina, even though he hated black people.
#25 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-14 10:47 PM | Reply
Trump has but one goal, destroy America.
He's getting off the a strong start.
Destroying California's economy is the best way to destroy America.
#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-14 10:49 PM | Reply
"Was this comment supposed to mean something?"
Yes
"When has the federal government ever needed an exchange in order to provide federal assistance to a state hit by a natural disaster?"
Is this comment supposed to mean something?
Is Johnson setting conditions or not?
What are they?
#27 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-14 10:50 PM | Reply
Again, in the middle of an active natural disaster, when 10s of thousands of American firefighters are working around the clock in dangerous conditions to protect other American, when 100s of thousands of Americans are at risk of destruction of all their worldly possessions, when 10s of thousands have lost their homes and literally everything but the clothes on their back, the president elect is mocking them and the republican party is blackmailing them for petty political --------.
Seriously, how do you magat scum sleep at night? how do you look at yourself in the mirror?
At least 4 more years of this insanity.
#28 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-14 10:52 PM | Reply
"Even the last criminal moron republican president didn't blackmail New Orleans after Katrina, even though he hated black people."
I'm sure he did. It just didn't get reported.
#29 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-14 10:52 PM | Reply
-At least 4 more years of this insanity.
Now now ... ..you're not insane.
Just immature
#30 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-14 10:54 PM | Reply
@#25 ... Los Angeles COUNTY alone pays more in Federal taxes than all but 4 US states. ...
Yeah, as I have posted links before.
The Red States seem to benefit more from the largess of the Federal Government than the Blues States.
And, quite frankly, I am OK with that. Those Red States seem to need that help.
AP FACT CHECK: Blue high-tax states fund red low-tax states (2017) apnews.com
... Mississippi received $2.13 for every tax dollar the state sent to Washington in 2015, according to the Rockefeller study. West Virginia received $2.07, Kentucky got $1.90 and South Carolina got $1.71. Meanwhile, New Jersey received 74 cents in federal spending for tax every dollar the state sent to Washington. New York received 81 cents, Connecticut received 82 cents and Massachusetts received 83 cents. California fared a bit better than other blue states. It received 96 cents for every dollar the state sent to Washington. ...
Meanwhile, New Jersey received 74 cents in federal spending for tax every dollar the state sent to Washington. New York received 81 cents, Connecticut received 82 cents and Massachusetts received 83 cents.
California fared a bit better than other blue states. It received 96 cents for every dollar the state sent to Washington. ...
#31 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-14 11:03 PM | Reply
You're probably the only person to get it.
Yes. It means never before in history has the president elect of the United States or Congress asked for concession in order to help the people of the United States.
Trump and the Republican Party hate America and they're not hiding it anymore.
Thankfully for them, they have apathetic people like you to support them.
Keep pretending this is normal.
#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-14 11:08 PM | Reply
@#29 ... I'm sure he did. It just didn't get reported. ...
Stated differently, your current alias has nothing to substantiate something it seems to be "sure" of?
#33 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-14 11:09 PM | Reply
Seriously, how do you magat scum sleep at night?
My guess is their policies didn't create this disaster.
The real question is why do you defend it? When tonite Newsom is bragging about all the fires that started today and he personally put out.
Why is he doing this? Because he can't sleep at nite knowing the damage he's caused due to his lack of leadership
#34 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-14 11:11 PM | Reply
The last president did, why would Biden do that?
#35 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-14 11:11 PM | Reply
Statement: "the last criminal moron republican president"
1LumpyDumper: "why would Biden do that?"
This guys wants people to take him seriously.
#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-14 11:19 PM | Reply
@#34 ... My guess is ...
Good to know that there seems to be nothing besides a "guess" behind your current alias' post(s).
#37 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-14 11:21 PM | Reply
"It means never before in history has the president elect of the United States or Congress asked for concession in order to help the people of the United States. "
This article is quoting the speaker of the house, not the president elect
And he's not asking for a concession. He's saying there should be conditions.
But I don't know what they are.
Do you?
#38 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-14 11:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
That guess was supplied to them by X.
That poster hasn't had an original thought their entire posting history.
#39 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-14 11:23 PM | Reply
@#35 ... The last president did, why would Biden do that? ...
Two comments...
1) Pres Biden is the current president until January 20.
2) Please provide a link to substantiate that assertion.
#40 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-14 11:24 PM | Reply
@#38 ... And he's not asking for a concession. He's saying there should be conditions. ...
And the difference is?
#41 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-14 11:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
So your claim is, Mike Johnson is acting independently of Trump?
You can't expect me to take you seriously.
he's not asking for a concession. He's saying there should be conditions.
Ohhh. Conditions, not concessions.
Looks like semantics are all you got to defend your insistence that this is business as usual.
I'm enjoying watching you act a fool.
#42 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-14 11:26 PM | Reply
"Ohhh. Conditions, not concessions.
Looks like semantics are all you got to defend your insistence that this is business as usual."
What are they? If they exist ... .tell me what they are.
I'm not saying there aren't any. I'm saying I don't know what they are.
Let me ask you ... ... .do you really think there will be concessions/conditions on federal aid for this disaster?
#43 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-14 11:31 PM | Reply
-So your claim is, Mike Johnson is acting independently of Trump?
No. I just wonder if you've read any of the attached article.
#44 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-14 11:33 PM | Reply
"Looks like semantics are all you got to defend your insistence that this is business as usual."
I'm just wondering if you know something that's not in the article I'm coming to the conclusion that you don't even know what IS in the article
#45 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-14 11:35 PM | Reply
@#44 ... I just wonder if you've read any of the attached article. ...
I did.
I still do not see the point your current seems to be trying to make.
#46 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-14 11:35 PM | Reply
Eberly's square dancing fast as he can to save his life.
Yeehaw!
#47 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-15 12:00 AM | Reply | Funny: 1
Mike Johnson is acting independently of Trump?
No.
Okay, so your statement was pointless.
Thanks.
I'm just wondering if you know something that's not in the article
I'm wondering if you think there's any reason Mike Johnson should be asking for "conditions" before providing federal aid to Americans affected by these fires.
You're clearly pretending there's some merit to it.
#48 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-15 12:04 AM | Reply
@#43 ...Looks like semantics are all you got to defend your insistence that this is business as usual." ...
yeah, projecting?
In #38 your current alias promoted that semantic distinction between concessions and conditions.
Now your current alias seems to be trying place the blame for that deflection upon others.
At this point, I am now wondering, what does your current alias have to contribute to this most august site, besides, apparently, trying to drag it down?
#49 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-15 12:08 AM | Reply
do you really think there will be concessions/conditions on federal aid for this disaster?
Mike Johnson: "It appears to us that state and local leaders were derelict in their duty in many respects, so that's something that has to be factored in. I think there should probably be conditions on that aid."
John Barrasso: "there will be strings attached to money that is ultimately approved, and it has to do with being ready the next time, because this was a gross failure this time." He thinks that because the "policies of the liberal administration" had "made these fires worse," the people of that administration should suffer too.
Eberly: What's the problem?
#50 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-15 12:18 AM | Reply
@#47 ... Yeehaw! ...
I don't know if Ms Williams is a country music artist or not.
I heard this tune on the area college radio station (and nowhere else) and, imo, this song is one of the good ones.
The Night's Too Long - Lucinda Williams (1998) www.youtube.com
genius.com
... Sylvia was workin' as a waitress in Beaumont She said "I'm movin' away I'm gonna get what I want I'm tired of these small town boys They don't move fast enough I'm gonna find me one who wears a leather jacket And likes his livin' rough" [Verse 2] So she saved her tips and overtime And bought an old rusty car She sold most everything she had To make a brand new start She said, "I won't be needin' these Silly dresses and nylon hose 'Cause when I get to where I'm goin' I'm gonna buy me all new clothes" [Chorus] The night's too long It just drags on and on And then there's never enough That's when the sun starts comin' up Don't let go of her hand You just might be the right man She loves the night She loves the night She doesn't want the night Don't want it to end Don't want it to end See Lucinda Williams Live Get tickets as low as $81 You might also like Abandoned Lucinda Williams I Just Wanted To See You So Bad Lucinda Williams Fruits of My Labor Lucinda Williams [Verse 3] Well she works in an office now And she guesses the pay's alright She can buy a few new things to wear And still go out at night And as soon as she gets home from work She wants to be out with the crowd Where she can dance and toss her head back And laugh out loud [Verse 4] Well, the music's playin' fast And they just met He presses up against her And his shirt's all soaked with sweat And with her back against the bar She can listen to the band And she's holdin' a Corona And it's cold against her hand ...
[Verse 2] So she saved her tips and overtime And bought an old rusty car She sold most everything she had To make a brand new start She said, "I won't be needin' these Silly dresses and nylon hose 'Cause when I get to where I'm goin' I'm gonna buy me all new clothes"
[Chorus] The night's too long It just drags on and on And then there's never enough That's when the sun starts comin' up Don't let go of her hand You just might be the right man She loves the night She loves the night She doesn't want the night Don't want it to end Don't want it to end See Lucinda Williams Live Get tickets as low as $81 You might also like Abandoned Lucinda Williams I Just Wanted To See You So Bad Lucinda Williams Fruits of My Labor Lucinda Williams [Verse 3] Well she works in an office now And she guesses the pay's alright She can buy a few new things to wear And still go out at night And as soon as she gets home from work She wants to be out with the crowd Where she can dance and toss her head back And laugh out loud
[Verse 4] Well, the music's playin' fast And they just met He presses up against her And his shirt's all soaked with sweat And with her back against the bar She can listen to the band And she's holdin' a Corona And it's cold against her hand ...
#51 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-15 12:18 AM | Reply
Remind me, did Democrats demand Florida Republicans do something to better prepare for the next hurricane season and blame the destruction on conservative policies.
#52 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-15 12:22 AM | Reply
@#50 ... He thinks that because the "policies of the liberal administration" had "made these fires worse," ...
OK, if that is the issue here, let's talk about climate change and how Big Oil has apparently purchased the GOP.
#53 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-15 12:23 AM | Reply
It's not climate change, climate change is a liberal hoax.
The increased fires in California, especially these specific one which were fueled by 70 mile per hour winds, are a result of "liberal policies".
Californians should be punished.
#54 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-15 12:31 AM | Reply
It's almost like I predicted this several days ago. Oh wait...
#55 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-15 01:08 AM | Reply
@#54 ... It's not climate change, climate change is a liberal hoax. ...
In my opinion, it is about climate change.
Not just what is currently happening in California, but what has also happened regarding the hurricanes' assault upon the good people of Florida.
imo, what it is about is climate change, and how that wreaks havoc upon the Country.
Climate change is an enemy attacking the Country.
What will the GOP do about that enemy?
#56 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-15 01:09 AM | Reply
And I also predicted the $750 checks ... Thanks Biden!
#57 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-15 01:09 AM | Reply
Hey Legally, I think I speak for everyone when I say I'm thankful you didn't burn alive out there from the lack of controlled burns and basic environmental management. It's an inauguration miracle praise be to Emperor Trump.
#58 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-15 01:16 AM | Reply | Funny: 1
@#58 ... I think I speak for everyone ...
Yet another alias that thinks its opinion is representative of "everyone."
#59 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-15 01:29 AM | Reply
"Hey Legally, I think I speak for everyone when I say I'm thankful you didn't burn alive out there from the lack of controlled burns and basic environmental management. It's an inauguration miracle praise be to Emperor Trump."
But I'm sure you are totally Ok with the 24 people that did burn alive, including the father that stayed by his sick son's bedside and burned together with him. Anything to score political points right? Good for you! Your parents (if they still speak to you) must be proud of their offspring.
#60 | Posted by dibblda at 2025-01-15 02:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
@#55 ... It's almost like I predicted this several days ago. ...
Got a link?
#61 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-15 03:01 AM | Reply
@#57 ... And I also predicted the $750 checks ... ...
#62 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-15 03:02 AM | Reply
I predict no knows wtf BlueWaffles is trolling about.
#63 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-15 03:35 AM | Reply
#60 In case you're as daft as can be, Legally has a rather lengthy track record of wishing death on people. Examples include using a baseball bat to beat to death a preacher, hoping for the assassination of political figures, wishing death on people who post here. So if you have an issue with me throwing his vileness right back at him so he knows how it feels when he's having to flee for his life you can get over it.
As for you Lamp ... # 6 on this one: drudge.com
And # 7 and 8:
drudge.com
#64 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-15 06:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
As well #60, those 24 deaths shouldn't have happened if the Government of California had properly done their jobs. Newsom has blood on his hands and that's a fact Jack.
#65 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-15 07:01 AM | Reply
Democrats in government are experts at whining and making victims, but sadly are incapable of competent action that actually prevents tragedies and death.
The whining fake leadership of Tim Kaine, and the fake Indian and fake combat vet Blumenthal etc are emblematic of the do nothing party. The 4 yr nightmare of Biden is almost over!
#66 | Posted by Robson at 2025-01-15 07:21 AM | Reply
Putin's butt ---- has the blood of 3000 Puerto Ricans on his tiny orange hands and that's a fact.
#67 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-01-15 07:51 AM | Reply
All the good Christian Republicans demonstrate thei hypocrisy every day. Evangelical Christions are the worst.
#68 | Posted by danni at 2025-01-15 08:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Newsom has blood on his hands
#65 | Posted by Bluewaffles
MAGA notices blood on OTHER people's hands?
Still trying to claim that moral high ground that spits you out?
I think that the next hurricane that hits Florida and Alabama that the Federal government allows both places to go to hell.
#69 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-15 08:17 AM | Reply
The 4 yr nightmare of Biden is almost over!
#66 | Posted by Robson
And the nightmares of Donald/Robson just begin.
You're a shallow idiot, ROBSON. Events are already proving that true. Please stay on this site long enough for it all to be hung around your neck.
#70 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-15 08:19 AM | Reply
All the good Christian Republicans
#68 | Posted by danni
I don't hear people like BLUEWAFFLES or ROBSON claiming that they are Christians.
Ever.
#71 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-15 08:21 AM | Reply
Florida doesn't need the Federal Government's help Zed, that's why they have their own fund for the exact reason you just mentioned. Gov DeSantis has mentioned it multiple times because he knows just like this last time the Feds didn't really do much to assist (outside of avoiding homes with Trump signs) so I'd say the Republicans are simply taking cue from Democrat leaders.
#72 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-15 08:28 AM | Reply | Funny: 1
Florida doesn't need the Federal Government's help
#72 | Posted by Bluewaffles
Then I don't expect to hear another story about their taking it.
How about those rednecks in Alabama and Mississippi. Can we cut them off?
#73 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-15 08:31 AM | Reply
(outside of avoiding homes with Trump signs)
Why are you, personally, such a lying sumbitch?
#74 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-15 08:32 AM | Reply
Why is MAGA, collectively, such a group of lying sumbitches?
I already know some of the answer.
Without a complex system of outrageous lies there is no MAGA at all.
No BLUEWAFFLES, as if he/she/it never existed.
#75 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-15 08:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Without lies, MAGA is back to getting what it needs through honesty and hard work.
You see the problem here?
#76 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-15 08:35 AM | Reply
Republikkkans are scum
#77 | Posted by 726 at 2025-01-15 08:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
#77 | Posted by 726 a
Yeah, and MWF they delight in it. T and Th they decide that their fee-fees are hurt.
#78 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-15 08:42 AM | Reply
-Mike Johnson: "It appears to us that state and local leaders were derelict in their duty in many respects, so that's something that has to be factored in. I think there should probably be conditions on that aid."
Bleed all you want. Hurt all you want. Cry all you want. Blame all you want.
it's a free country.
we'll see however if actual conditions are placed on the aid.
#79 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-15 08:59 AM | Reply | Funny: 1
Criticism of state and local leaders is not a new phenomenon in DC.
If Johnson and the GOP actually places conditions on the aid they'll look like monsters.....and perhaps they're fine with that.
But we'll see.......
#80 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-15 09:01 AM | Reply | Funny: 1
#74 Oh Zed ... . Thank you for always showing how obtuse of a human you are.
www.cnn.com
#81 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-01-15 09:14 AM | Reply
Then why say it at all?
Realize there are people in CA suffering and on top of that, they have to read this? Is that leadership? Is that the way you conduct yourself?
This all stems from Trump and how he is as a person - you can even see it how he treats his own family.
Have said it before - worst person to have in a postiion such as this.
You saw the results with COVID. You see on a lower scale with this disaster.
Trump doesn't want to ruin the country on purpose - he'll ruin is just because of the person he is.
#82 | Posted by brass30 at 2025-01-15 09:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3
-Then why say it at all?
To piss people off.
Because quotes like that get printed and talked about.
Or maybe because it's true....but I don't think very many people truly believe any real conditions come with aid.
#83 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-15 09:30 AM | Reply
#82 | POSTED BY BRASS30
Only the truth.
#84 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-15 09:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
Great way to govern............great leadership.
#85 | Posted by brass30 at 2025-01-15 09:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
#81 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES
Yeah, I was aware of the man the FEDS FIRED for saying that.
Your link reinforces and expands on what a lying sumbitch you are.
#86 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-15 09:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
-Great way to govern............great leadership.
If there is anything I'm counting on from the Trump Administration and by default the leadership in the GOP......it's comments and rhetoric like this.
Which may or may not come with action behind it but Trump loves the attention this gets.
#87 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-15 09:52 AM | Reply
Dems call to repeal debt limit.
Dems get what they want, twice, from Trump lol. No debt ceiling and fire aid.
#88 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-01-15 10:06 AM | Reply
#87 | POSTED BY EBERLY
What?
Me worry?
You have already seen what Trumpy can do yet you sit there and pretend like he won't do the things he said he will do because he is just trolling the libs. While there is some truth in that he does throw his feces everywhere to see what sticks and what pisses off the libs the most. It's obvious he nailed this one. Maybe he won't be ABLE to do ALL the hateful things he says he gonna do.
But he will definitely try. And California is pretty high on his "enemies list" obviously. And yes we have a -------- of Trumpers in our state. But that won't stop him as Trumpy will hurt anyone and everyone to get what he wants.
No Trumpy has not taken the oath yet and we are all speculating on what he will do ATM. But if the past is prologue then it's a sure bet you will have egg on your deplorable wishy fckking washy face come Jan21st.
#89 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-15 10:26 AM | Reply
No debt ceiling and fire aid.
#88 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG
The debt ceiling was always a stupid idea. It is always raised and is only used as a political bludgeon. But do I like the idea of holding Trumpy in check by any means possible?
Of course I do.
But disaster aid and the debt ceiling should obviously be two entirely separate bills.
#90 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-15 10:38 AM | Reply
"I don't want to get what I want, twice in 1 bill, because Trump."
Totally rational.
#91 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2025-01-15 11:07 AM | Reply
"because Trump."
Disaster relief and the debt ceiling are two separate issues and have always been two separate issues.
Until Trumpy.
So yep.
Because Trumpy.
#92 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-15 11:17 AM | Reply
those 24 deaths shouldn't have happened if the Government of California had properly done their jobs. #65 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES
BlueWaffles is the type of man who doesn't hold Abbott or the government of Texas accountable for letting people in Texas freeze to death due to Texas's power grid failing.
BlueWaffles is the type of man who doesn't hold DeSantis or the government of Florida responsible for the damage and devastation left behind in Florida due to hurricanes.
Because BlueWaffles is a partisan hack and a troll.
He's one of the many deplorable Trumping MAGAts who have zero expectations from republican politicians, and hate democrats because decades of propaganda have him sitting up and barking on command.
BlueWaffles has zero integrity.
Don't be like BlueWaffles.
#93 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-15 11:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
#93 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK
Or for the recent wildfires that obliterated an entire Texas town.
BLUEWAFFLES knows about these things, it's just that he's a lying sumbitch.
#94 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-15 11:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2
Florida doesn't need the Federal Government's help Zed, #72 | POSTED BY BLUEWAFFLES
BlueWaffles is an ignorant liar. It's what makes him such a good Republican.
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - FEMA has approved more than $1 billion in federal disaster assistance to help homeowners and renters recover from Hurricanes Milton, Helene and Debby. - Nov 22, 2024
www.fema.gov
Don't be a stupid troll, like BlueWaffles.
#95 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-15 11:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
If Johnson and the GOP actually places conditions on the aid they'll look like monsters.... #80 | POSTED BY EBERLY
That's actually a selling point for Republicans these days.
"Vote for us, we'll destroy America!"
It's what got Trump elected.
#96 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-15 11:31 AM | Reply
I don't think very many people truly believe any real conditions come with aid. #83 | POSTED BY EBERLY
Yea, and abortion is settled law.
Stop pretending you have any insight into what Republicans are thinking.
#97 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-15 11:32 AM | Reply
#93 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK Just another deplorable saying deplorable things to try and own the libs with.
They say these deplorable things and then wonder why they get called deplorables.
But no worries mates!
Beverly has assured us that Trumpy doesn't mean to do what he says he wants to do. And if the past is truly prologue then Trumpy will relent after he harasses Californians enough. But only time will tell. This is Trumpy 2.0. From the last wildfire when Trumpy controlled the White House:
"the former president was flagrantly partisan at times in response to disasters and on at least three occasions hesitated to give disaster aid to areas he considered politically hostile or ordered special treatment for pro-Trump states."
"Trump initially refused to approve disaster aid for California after deadly wildfires in 2018 because of the state's Democratic leanings."
" Trump changed his mind after Harvey pulled voting results to show him that heavily damaged Orange County, California, had more Trump supporters than the entire state of Iowa"
"We went as far as looking up how many votes he got in those impacted areas ... to show him these are people who voted for you,"
#98 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-15 11:42 AM | Reply
"FEMA reports over $1 billion in aid given to Florida after active 2024 hurricane season" "FEMA has approved over $1.2 billion in aid, which breaks down to $53 million for Debby, $559 million for Milton and over $630 million for Helene."
www.wctv.tv
#99 | Posted by danni at 2025-01-15 12:08 PM | Reply
#100 | Posted by danni at 2025-01-15 12:08 PM | Reply
Stupid republicans are playing with fire.
America is currently cheering a guy who shot a CEO.
How do you think they'll respond to someone who takes disaster aid hostage being killed?
#101 | Posted by Tor at 2025-01-15 12:12 PM | Reply
-Stop pretending you have any insight into what Republicans are thinking.
I'm the one who has to get it right.
Not you.
Nobody here expects you to get anything right.
Everybody here expects me to get everything right.
See the difference?
I'll continue to guess on whatever I want...and you'll continue to guess on whatever you want.
and in the end...nobody will care about your .125 batting average. Everyone will notice my .578 average because it's not perfect.
#102 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-15 12:16 PM | Reply
"It means never before in history has the president elect of the United States or Congress asked for concession in order to help the people of the United States. " This article is quoting the speaker of the house, not the president elect And he's not asking for a concession. He's saying there should be conditions. But I don't know what they are. Do you? #38 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-14 11:22 PM
I imagine it would be awkward bordering on threatening if Johnson isn't speaking on behalf of Trump.
Who's policy uses conditions for disaster relief? I presume every time. So what changes in policy or condition is modifying this statement?
That Republicans are in control.
Trump is leaning on people who are left with only the clothing on their backs.
'Like Luigi Do' t-shirts come in all sizes..
#103 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-01-15 12:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1
-I imagine it would be awkward bordering on threatening if Johnson isn't speaking on behalf of Trump.
It's very possible they are on the same page.
I just think some people can't post without typing TRUMP into every post. It's muscle memory...
#104 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-15 12:21 PM | Reply
Reminder
The incoming administration leaned on Lockheed Martin to get rid of a liberal snr vp over the person's speech
#105 | Posted by truthhurts at 2025-01-15 12:23 PM | Reply
#5 | Posted by bat4255
Depending on where one lives, I would assume.
Rural red state? No problem.
Any district that didn't vote for Trump? Beatings will continue until morale improves.
#106 | Posted by jpw at 2025-01-15 12:33 PM | Reply
#102 | POSTED BY EBERLY
You don't have to respond when you've got nothing to say.
It will make you seem less pathetic.
#107 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-01-15 12:38 PM | Reply
-I imagine it would be awkward bordering on threatening if Johnson isn't speaking on behalf of Trump. It's very possible they are on the same page. I just think some people can't post without typing TRUMP into every post. It's muscle memory... #104 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-15 12:21 PM
It would appear that Trump's infamous response to authoritarian impulses "only on day one" primed this behavior.
That said, would Johnson take it upon himself to use authoritarian impulses on behalf of Trump?
Either way, it looks extreme and ill-timed.
#108 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-01-15 12:45 PM | Reply
If we are all "irrelevant" here why do any of us have to "get anything right"?
Whatever that actually means.
#109 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-15 01:05 PM | Reply
-If we are all "irrelevant" here why do any of us have to "get anything right"?
what are you talking about, -----?
#110 | Posted by eberly at 2025-01-15 01:11 PM | Reply
#110 | POSTED BY EBERLY
You and your -----. Waving that thing in the air like you just don't care!
Didn't your mom tell you it would get you in trouble someday?
#111 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-15 01:18 PM | Reply
we'll see however if actual conditions are placed on the aid. POSTED BY EBERLY
Yup. There is a chance he is just babbling again. And he won't. But those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.
#112 | Posted by donnerboy at 2025-01-15 02:07 PM | Reply
So California is being held hostage. Just what exactly did Newsom or any other law maker in California do wrong? What should they have enacted to mitigate one of the worst fire disasters in history?
Ton of arm chair quarterbacks on this thread offering nothing but criticism, nothing constructive. Which to me suggests they do NOT have any constructive criticism. This all about politics for them.
No sense of empathy. Just a bunch of political opportunists. It's really fnkcin' sad.
Swallow it.
#113 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-01-15 08:56 PM | Reply
Mr Johnson is Lickspittle of a giant orange feces flinging orangutan.
#114 | Posted by earthmuse at 2025-01-16 08:33 AM | Reply
I didn't know this, but its interesting, since 1968 insurance companies were responsible for the full cost of damages if the California Fair Plan goes bankrupt. Until a few months ago Ricardo Lara signed a bulletin passing the burden onto ALL CALIFORNIA POLICY HOLDERS How is that even legal?? Who elected this moron.
It also looks likely the Los Angeles wildfires are going to push the California Fair Plan into bankruptcy.
So all you Lumpers not in CA, complaining about Johnson wanting conditions, to quote TruthHurts, ---- you!
Something needs to change here in CA.
#115 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-01-16 11:13 AM | Reply
#115 | POSTED BY ONEIRONAUT A
First, what's a lumper? Doesn't work as an insult unless it has some meaning other than to yourself.
Second, is Mike Johnson or MAGA going to impose strings on Texas the next time it loses a community to fire?
Of course not so, in your own words-
---- you!
#116 | Posted by Zed at 2025-01-16 11:30 AM | Reply
The only definition of the word lumper that I know is the people who unload trucks.
#117 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-01-16 11:39 AM | Reply
Funny how all that "small government" and "local control" GOP rhetoric falls apart when people don't vote their way. But, hypocrisy is their essential element, without which their lives become impossible.
#118 | Posted by morris at 2025-01-16 12:03 PM | Reply
Democrats believe DEI, CRT. and left wing politics makes everything ok.
Conservatives believe in hard work, common sense, paying compensation and offering promotion based on merit not politics.
#119 | Posted by Robson at 2025-01-16 09:35 PM | Reply
... Conservatives believe in hard work, common sense, paying compensation and offering promotion based on merit not politics. ..
... even if that robotic response were true, that relates to "Mike Johnson Vows to Hold Aid to California Hostage" ... how?
#120 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-01-16 09:42 PM | Reply
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