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Wednesday, June 04, 2025

Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth has ordered the secretary of the Navy to rename the oiler ship USNS Harvey Milk, according to a defense official.

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This is just stupid, ungracious, bigoted behavior.

#1 | Posted by Zed at 2025-06-03 06:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Trumpers are the most pathetic, small-minded, vindictive Karens in the known Universe.

#2 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-03 07:36 PM | Reply

I wonder when they will rename USS John S. McCain?

#3 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-06-03 07:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

And I am 17 minutes behind Redial.

Bleh.

#4 | Posted by billy_boy at 2025-06-03 08:07 PM | Reply

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is hiding in the back of the closet :)

Wayyyyy in the back.

Wearing his mom's summer dress, and some nice open toe sandals.

#5 | Posted by billy_boy at 2025-06-03 08:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Rename it the USNS John Wayne.

Hegseth is such a puny bitch, his staff must have loads of dirt already.

A Department Of Defense book tour sounds spectacular!

#6 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-06-03 09:23 PM | Reply

Pickled Pete should rename after the woman he raped.

#7 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2025-06-03 10:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Rumor has it the new name is the "USS Robert E. Lee"

#8 | Posted by oneironaut at 2025-06-03 11:59 PM | Reply

#5 wouldn't surprise me. The traitor trash in power now would do such a thing.

#9 | Posted by jpw at 2025-06-04 12:48 AM | Reply

The traitor trash in power now would do such a thing.

Not for an oiler. There's a carrier coming up named for a black man, maybe they could save it for that.

#10 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-06-04 01:22 AM | Reply

#7: news.va.gov

#11 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-06-04 06:23 AM | Reply

Seeing as it's Hegseth, how about the USS Jack Daniels?

#12 | Posted by Doc_Sarvis at 2025-06-04 06:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#9: Seeing as it's Hegseth, how about the USS Jack Daniels?

Well struck.

#13 | Posted by C0RI0LANUS at 2025-06-04 07:09 AM | Reply

"Rename it the USNS John Wayne."
n.
I think I'd prefer the USS Rock Hudson.

#14 | Posted by danni at 2025-06-04 08:47 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Maybe he'll suggest the USS Jim Jordan.

#15 | Posted by Dbt2 at 2025-06-04 09:05 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

I wonder when they will rename USS John S. McCain?

#2 | POSTED BY REDIAL

You know this is on the list.

For all you MAGA that don't understand why...

Jesus, you're stupid.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2025-06-04 09:28 AM | Reply

Seeing as it's Hegseth, how about the USS Jack Daniels?

USS Smirnoff would be more appropriate.

#17 | Posted by Nixon at 2025-06-04 12:53 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Rename it the USNS John Wayne."
n.
I think I'd prefer the USS Rock Hudson.
#11 | Posted by danni at 2025-06-04 08:47 AM

Oops, I forgot to add Gacy. :]

#18 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-06-04 01:19 PM | Reply

You know this is on the list.

I read they are going after USNS Ruth Bader Ginsburg and USNS Harriet Tubman.

#19 | Posted by REDIAL at 2025-06-04 01:53 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

It's now the USNS Jack Daniels

#20 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-06-04 02:50 PM | Reply

Well, you get the idea.
Reading is fun-damental.

#21 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-06-04 03:00 PM | Reply

Well, you get the idea.
Reading is fun-damental.

#22 | Posted by LegallyYourDead at 2025-06-04 03:00 PM | Reply

Backstory ...

Harvey Milk
en.wikipedia.org

... Harvey Bernard Milk (May 22, 1930 " November 27, 1978) was an American politician and the first openly gay man to be elected to public office in California, as a member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors.

Milk was born and raised in New York. He acknowledged his homosexuality in adolescence but secretly pursued sexual relationships well into adulthood. The counterculture of the 1960s caused him to shed many of his conservative views about individual freedom and sexual expression.

Milk moved to San Francisco in 1972 and opened a camera store. Although he held an assortment of jobs and frequently changed addresses, he settled in the Castro, a neighborhood that was experiencing a mass immigration of gay men and lesbians. He ran for city supervisor in 1973, but the existing gay political establishment resisted him. Milk's campaign was compared to theater due to his personality, earning media attention and votes, although not enough to be elected. He campaigned again in the next two supervisor elections, dubbing himself the "Mayor of Castro Street". The voter response caused him to also run for the California State Assembly.

Due to his growing popularity, he led the gay rights movement in battles against anti-gay initiatives. Milk was elected city supervisor in 1977 after San Francisco began to choose neighborhood representatives rather than city-wide ones. During Milk's almost eleven months in office, he sponsored a bill banning discrimination based on sexual orientation in public accommodations, housing, and employment. The Supervisors passed the bill by a vote of 11"1, and Mayor George Moscone signed it into law. On November 27, 1978, Milk and Moscone were assassinated by Dan White, a disgruntled former city supervisor who cast the sole vote against Milk's bill. ...



#23 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-04 06:47 PM | Reply

FTA: "Secretary Hegseth is committed to ensuring that the names attached to all DOD installations and assets are reflective of the Commander-in-Chief's priorities, our nation's history, and the warrior ethos"

Harvey Milk was a true warrior who fought in defense of US citizens, unlike Peter Hesgeth.

I don't believe Harvey would have wanted to be anywhere but closer to our fine seamen, so I am outraged!

"Warrior ethos"? More like pathos.

#24 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-06-04 07:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Good riddance

#25 | Posted by THEBULL at 2025-06-04 07:32 PM | Reply

Yeah, it might turn the other boats gay.

#26 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-06-04 07:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Good riddance
#9 | Posted by THEBULL at 2025-06-04 07:32 PM

WHY?

He was a veteran and then served his community.

Is homosexuality a deal-breaker in your eyes or was Milk an unfit example?

#27 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-06-04 07:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He was a groomer.

and his military service wasn't impressive compare to other gay people.

#28 | Posted by Tor at 2025-06-04 07:54 PM | Reply

He was a groomer.
and his military service wasn't impressive compare to other gay people.
#12 | Posted by Tor at 2025-06-04 07:54 PM

Sounds like slander that all homosexuals endure from bigots.

Evidence please?

#29 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2025-06-04 07:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Good riddance

#9 | Posted by THEBULL at 2025-06-04 07:32 PM

THEBULL(THECOW actually)...deep in the closet with Pete "wide open" Hegseth

It's OK to be gay! Normal people don't care what consenting adults do with or to each other.

Key word...normal.

Normal THEBULL aint. Or even sane.

Betting THEBULL is a one of the slimeballs an SVU baddy was based on.

#30 | Posted by billy_boy at 2025-06-04 08:42 PM | Reply

Milk sexually assaulted a 16 year old boy.

Get his name off the ship.

#31 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-06-04 09:13 PM | Reply

@#15 ... Milk sexually assaulted a 16 year old boy. ...

Got a link for that?

And why did that not seem to be mentioned in Sec Hegseth's explanation?


#32 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-04 09:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Tor,

"He was a groomer.
and his military service wasn't impressive compare to other gay people."

I bring something up from time to time because it was an honor to have known someone.

The summer of 1975 I was in the Navy and was friends with Leonard Matlovich who was in the Air Force. Sept of that year he was on the cover of Time magazine with the caption "I am a Homosexual". Believe it or not, that was actually earth shattering news for a lot of mainstream America who believed the military was all straight.

He was the first active duty gay person to deliberately out himself to his commanding officer and bring the wrath of the military anti-gay policy onto himself. This was long before DADT when simply no gays were permitted and you had to lie to sign up and live in continual fear of being exposed. I ended being discharged the end of that year. I got 2 versions of my DD-214. One said "Homosexuality-Unfitness" and the other left that box blank. I got a General Under Honorable conditions discharge and retained all benefits.

Leo had an exemplary military record and deserved to be recognized more than he was.

He was known well by many gay people but they didn't make a movie about him.

#33 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-04 09:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He was a groomer.
and his military service wasn't impressive compare to other gay people.

#12 | Posted by Tor at 2025-06-04 07:54 PM | Reply | Flag:

Do you really think rapist Hegseth is changing the name because of that?

Or because he was gay? (go google enola gay for more examples of this nonsense)

#34 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-06-04 10:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Lamplighter,

www.snopes.com

#35 | Posted by BellRinger at 2025-06-04 10:41 PM | Reply

@#19

From the link your current alias cites (and thx for finally providing any manner of substantiation of its comments ...)

...It is true that in 1964, Milk, then 33 years old, entered a relationship with Galen McKinley, who was 16 years old, according to the Milk biography, "Harvey Milk: His Lives and Death." The relationship started in New York City. ...

Later, the pair spent time in California, where the age of consent has been 18 years old since at least 1920. Their California sojourn occurred around 1969, when Galen McKinley was 23 years old. The two remained a couple until at least 1970 and they stayed in touch for years after that.

In sum, while it is possible Milk's relationship with Galen McKinley may have violated the laws of consent in the state of New York in 1964, it does not appear that modern psychological standards would deem him a pedophile.


So, did he sexually assault a 16-year-old boy, as your current alias asserts? Or was it consensual?




#36 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-04 11:15 PM | Reply

@#18

A salient point.

#37 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-04 11:18 PM | Reply

Colbert had a pretty goof joke about this on tonight's show but it was just a few minutes ago so I'll check tomorrowrrow.Itomorrow,

#38 | Posted by danni at 2025-06-05 12:08 AM | Reply

So Peter the drunkard happened to be right about something. Why should we object to that?

#39 | Posted by Tor at 2025-06-05 02:03 AM | Reply

@#22 ... the drunkard happened to be right about something. ...

What was it right about, and why?

#40 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-06-05 02:15 AM | Reply

"and you had to lie to sign up"

Why would you do that, that's the part we really don't understand.

#41 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-05 06:49 AM | Reply

Snoofy,

"Why would you do that, that's the part we really don't understand."

My parents split up when I was in Middle School. Couldn't live with my mom or my dad. Neither worked out.

No other relatives. No siblings or other relatives I knew.

My dad was Army all my childhood and we moved constantly so I had no stability. I dropped out of high school after 10th grade.

I turned 17 and had to get on my own. Mom was pretty messed up from the divorce and my dad couldn't relate to me so we had no relationship. After trying to live with him things began turning violent. Lost contact with him when I signed up.

Right after turning 17 I joined the Navy. My entrance exam qualified me for anything I wanted to do except nuclear.

After being assigned to a squadren (I had gone into avionics), while on a cruise I was spotted overseas coming out of a gay bar by men I worked in the same shop.

The military was about my only option I could see at the time so that's the reason I joined.

The specifics when I became sexually active is more detail than is anyone's business.

#42 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-05 08:51 AM | Reply

No coincidence this is how the Trump Department of Defense celebrates Pride Month.

BillJohnson doesn't even think it's a slap in the face. To the contrary, he knows gays need to be kept in their place in the closet and out of the military.

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-05 01:21 PM | Reply

What's the problem, as the dems had mo problem with renaming military bases. --- for Tat babies, --- For Tat : )

#44 | Posted by MSgt at 2025-06-05 02:17 PM | Reply

Msgt,

And all the statues removed and didn't accomplish a thing except make dems look more petty and oblivious to real problems.

They're more focused on conformity of thought and call it progress.

Even Biden's press secretary, Karine Jean-Pierre left the Democratic Party.

#45 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-05 03:47 PM | Reply

Snoofy,

"BillJohnson...knows gays need to be kept in their place in the closet and out of the military.'

Your post was slanderous and personal.

I am resurrecting my Do Not Post lost.

You're the first name on it. Any post directed at me or about me from you will go unread.

You might actually be demon-possessed. I want no communication with you...now or ever.

#46 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-05 04:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You might actually be demon-possessed.

Maybe he's the tooth fairy.

#47 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2025-06-05 04:25 PM | Reply

"Your post was slanderous and personal."

The truth is an affirmative defense.

#48 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-05 04:33 PM | Reply

"And all the statues removed and didn't accomplish a thing except make dems look more petty and oblivious to real problems."

But renaming the USS Harvey Milk doesn't make Republicans look more petty and oblivious to real problems?

Seriously?

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-05 04:35 PM | Reply

Alex,

"Maybe he's the tooth fairy."

If people would suggest Trump is the antichrist, a literal figure from the Bible, its not unreasonsible to point to other Biblical entities as well

Howevern, the last I checked, the tooth fairy isn't mentioned anywhere in Scripture.

#50 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-05 05:02 PM | Reply

It's hilarious reading BullJohnson pretending to be a Christian.

Who knew Christ was so full of anger, ignorance and hatred?

#51 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-06-05 05:13 PM | Reply

BillJohnson doesn't even think it's a slap in the face. To the contrary, he knows gays need to be kept in their place in the closet and out of the military.
#43 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

If it were up to BullJohnson, homosexuals would be put into camps and tortured until they, like him, accept a heterosexual lifestyle.

#52 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-06-05 05:42 PM | Reply

Clown,

You know that's not true.

But hey...if you're trying to make my list, you'll have to work a little harder.

#53 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-05 05:59 PM | Reply

"Your post was slanderous and personal."

Observations are not slanderous.

Noting you lied to get into the service, lied to stay in the service, allowed a lie on your discharge papers, and lied in real life when you got married...

...those are all truthful observations. Stating a true observation isn't slanderous at all.

Your accusation actually reflects back on your guilt, not the other person speaking the truth.

#54 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-05 07:12 PM | Reply

"If people would suggest Trump is the antichrist..."

I noticed when I asked how many "Aniti-Christ" boxes Trump checked, versus how many "Ten Commandments" he followed, you ran for the hills.

#55 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-05 07:16 PM | Reply

Actually it's being rechristened as the USS No ---- from what I've heard.

#56 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-06-05 07:23 PM | Reply

#56 | Posted by Bluewaffles

Glad you're enjoying the homophobia.

Happy for you!

#57 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2025-06-05 07:32 PM | Reply

BlueWaffles has decided to fully embrace what a complete piece of shht he is.

He thanks Trump daily for giving him the courage.

But mostly, he's lonely and desperate for attention.

#58 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-06-05 07:40 PM | Reply

BillJohnson,
Your parents failed you, and society failed you.
That's a tough combination.

#59 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-05 07:45 PM | Reply

Actually Clownshack it was a joke the Babylon Bee made and it was pretty damn funny. Happy Pride!

#60 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-06-05 07:52 PM | Reply

re: 59

Honestly, it's fcnking sad

#61 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-06-05 07:58 PM | Reply

Dan,

To be the Antichrist, you have to check all the boxes and not just a few.

Trump can't be the Antichrist.

The real one will be admired worldwide, hailed as a savior, and perform signs that deceive the masses.

He won't cause mass hatred. He'll inspire global worship.

The Bible says the world will love the Antichrist.

Trump? Half the world wants him in prison.

#62 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-05 08:28 PM | Reply

Trump is gluttonous.

Trump is envious.

Trump is prideful.

Trump is lustful.

Trump is greedy.

Trump is wrathful.

Trump is slothful.

His supporters are a combination of the aforementioned deadly sins.

#63 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-06-05 08:33 PM | Reply

Trump can't be the Antichrist.

The real one will be admired worldwide, hailed as a savior, and perform signs that deceive the masses.

He doesn't need the "worldwide".

He's got America.

He's deceived you deplore Trumping MAGAts into hailing him as a savior.

#64 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-06-05 08:36 PM | Reply

Clown,

The Bible says the antichrist will deceive the world and appear good.

His sins won't be so obvious.

What you listed defines a "sinner", not the antichrist.

#65 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-05 08:42 PM | Reply

The Bible says the antichrist will deceive the world and appear good.

Are you claiming Trump isn't good?

#66 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-06-05 08:42 PM | Reply

Clown,

I'd wager a bet every one of the sins you listed you've committed one time or another, as have I.

In fact, you've done at least one today.

Right now, at this very moment, you're being wrathful and prideful.

#67 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-05 08:50 PM | Reply

Projection, Bill?

#68 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-06-05 09:02 PM | Reply

Clown,

What's funny though is any other time you'd probably be offended if someone preached at you telling you repent from your sinful ways.

But if you do the finger pointing at Trump or me it's no problem.

And then you would call me a hypocrite.

How did Jesus put? Why do you complain about someone having a splinter in their eye when you have a log in yours?

#69 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-05 09:11 PM | Reply

Point out the log.

#70 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-06-05 09:12 PM | Reply

Clown,

"Projection, Bill?"

I already said I'm guilty of sinning.

This is getting boring since you're not bothering to think.

#71 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-05 09:13 PM | Reply

"To be the Antichrist, you have to check all the boxes and not just a few."

You're in complete and total denial.

Trump is six for six.

Meanwhile, you can't name Two Commandments Trump embodies.

#72 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-05 09:34 PM | Reply

#65 |

Trump checks ALL the boxes perfectly and continues to do so:

antichrist45.com

If those verses had been written by Nostradamus or Edgar Cayce, people would be going apesht about them right now.

He's actually checked off several more verses since those were written.

#73 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-05 09:52 PM | Reply

Should they rename it the George Floyd in honor of Democrat politics of honoring criminals and rioters? It is a true mistake naming or rewarding any person with such an honor based on demographics or sexual identity instead of actual accomplishment.

#74 | Posted by Robson at 2025-06-05 09:59 PM | Reply

I dunno Robson (and who knows this may even shock the ole Queen Clownshack with what I'm about to say) but Milk did actually accomplish a few things ... Sure he was gay, but ... He did honorably serve in the Navy (of course he did) and he decisively pushed through anti-discrimination ordinances for lesbians and homosexuals in San Francisco. I'd say that's certainly some level of accomplishment.

#75 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-06-06 01:45 AM | Reply

Hey BlueWaffles.

He made it legal for you to bend over.

Have you said 'thank you' once?

#76 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-06 09:11 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Sorry Snoofy, I know you Nazi's like to do things in your downtime like dress in women's clothing and bend each other over but that doesn't apply to the rest of us.

#77 | Posted by Bluewaffles at 2025-06-06 10:48 AM | Reply

Dan,

"Noting you lied to get into the service, lied to stay in the service, allowed a lie on your discharge papers"

That's right.

Shame the victim.

If living it wasn't bad enough, not just me but the gays who fought and died and loved their country, you treat these people who were forced to lie and hide their true identity and live in fear for their careers snd even their own safety, with contempt.

#78 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-06 11:10 AM | Reply

"Shame the victim."

How were you a victim? You chose to lie; no one FORCED you to lie.

And now, you're voting for the politicians who would make folks like you lie AGAIN in order to serve.

" you treat these people who were forced to lie and hide their true identity and live in fear for their careers snd even their own safety, with contempt."

Not them; only you, for enabling folks who would rendition YOU if they could.

You even lied AFTER your discharge, when you publicly got married.

Your choices.

#79 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-06 11:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Shame the victim."

You're a victim of your own lies, coming back to haunt you.

Fact of the matter is, if you weren't such a gay basher, you would seem a lot more believable as a victim.

But you treat gays the way the Navy treated you.

#80 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-06 12:08 PM | Reply

Shame the victim.
If living it wasn't bad enough, not just me but the gays who fought and died and loved their country, you treat these people who were forced to lie and hide their true identity and live in fear for their careers snd even their own safety, with contempt.

#78 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-06 11:10 AM | Reply

You shame yourself when you align yourself with a party that relegates LGBTQIA people as 2nd and 3rd class status. You shame yourself when you refuse to break the chain of bigotry and hatred. The shame is all on you. Just sayin

#81 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-06-06 12:19 PM | Reply

Dan,

Not to mention, it was people like me who lived the lie, endured the pain, and paid the price.

We're the ones who paved the way for the freedoms gays have today.

Not just in the military, but all the way back to Stonewall.

We didn't get here without scars.

And now I'm supposed to be treated with scorn for lying just to live.

Some people talk out their --- with no clue what gays had to do just to survive back then.

#82 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-06 12:55 PM | Reply

"We're the ones who paved the way for the freedoms gays have today."

What did you personally do, other than "be gay?"

#83 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-06 01:01 PM | Reply

Dan,
Not to mention, it was people like me who lived the lie, endured the pain, and paid the price.
We're the ones who paved the way for the freedoms gays have today.
Not just in the military, but all the way back to Stonewall.
We didn't get here without scars.
And now I'm supposed to be treated with scorn for lying just to live.
Some people talk out their --- with no clue what gays had to do just to survive back then.
Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-06 12:55 PM | Reply

And yet you vote for candidates that will relegates LGBTQIA people to 2nd and 3rd class status. You guys can take a long walk on a short pier. Just sayin

#84 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-06-06 01:02 PM | Reply

Some people talk out their --- with no clue what gays had to do just to survive back then.
#82 | Posted by BillJohnson

Thank you for voting to take us back to that time.

#85 | Posted by Sycophant at 2025-06-06 01:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Laura,

"And yet you vote for candidates that will relegates LGBTQIA people to 2nd and 3rd class status"

Gays have the unfortunate situation of being aligned with godless baby-killers who are bigger hypocrites than any conservative but are oblivious to this fact.

Conservatives aren't pretending to be saints.

#86 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-06 01:14 PM | Reply

I'm done with this thread.

#87 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-06 01:16 PM | Reply

"The unintended consequence of scrubbing Harvey Milk's name from a Navy Ship is now everyone's talking about him. Keep talking."
-Dan Rather

#88 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-06-06 01:24 PM | Reply

Sy,

One more....

"Thank you for voting to take us back to that time."

You can't see the truth if it bit you.

A combination of radical gays and atheists who are using gays as pawns, are the ones making it harder for gay people.

#89 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-06 01:25 PM | Reply

- making it harder for gay people.

I thought that was Clowny's hobby.

btw, typically it's self-satisfied, hypocritical rwingers that have made things difficult for gay people, while the left has been more understanding.

#90 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-06 01:39 PM | Reply

Gays have the unfortunate situation of being aligned with godless baby-killers who are bigger hypocrites than any conservative but are oblivious to this fact.
Conservatives aren't pretending to be saints.

Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-06 01:14 PM | Reply

(ROLLS EYES)

#91 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2025-06-06 01:49 PM | Reply

"defensHomophobese official confirmed that the Navy was making preparations to strip the ship of its name but noted that Navy Secretary John Phelan was ordered to do so by Hegseth. The official also said that the timing of the announcement -- occurring during Pride month -- was intentional."

Homophobes should have no place in our government nor racists, Anti-Semites or haters of any religion or ethnicity. Those who would object to that statement; Donald Trump and Elon Musk both being living examples of why,

Might be worth noting that homosexual and trans people have fought and died in every war America has ever fought but Donald Trump

"Former U.S. President Donald Trump once said that avoiding STDs in his dating life in the '80s was his "personal Vietnam."

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#92 | Posted by danni at 2025-06-06 02:17 PM | Reply

Homophobes should have no place in our government nor racists, Anti-Semites or haters of any religion or ethnicity.

And yet, that's precisely why people voted for Trump.

#93 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-06-06 02:22 PM | Reply

Gays have the unfortunate situation of being aligned with godless baby-killers who are bigger hypocrites than any conservative but are oblivious to this fact.

Gays have aligned with Netanyahu and IDF?

#94 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-06-06 02:25 PM | Reply

"defensHomophobese official confirmed that the Navy was making preparations to strip the ship of its name but noted that Navy Secretary John Phelan was ordered to do so by Hegseth. The official also said that the timing of the announcement -- occurring during Pride month -- was intentional."

Homophobes should have no place in our government nor racists, Anti-Semites or haters of any religion or ethnicity. Those who would object to that statement; Donald Trump and Elon Musk both being living examples of why,

Might be worth noting that homosexual and trans people have fought and died in every war America has ever fought but Donald Trump

In a previously unreported 1998 interview with Howard Stern, Donald Trump compared sex to going to battle in Vietnam and joked he should be getting the Congressional Medal of Honor.

money.cnn.com

#95 | Posted by danni at 2025-06-06 02:26 PM | Reply

"it was people like me who lived the lie, endured the pain, and paid the price.
We're the ones who paved the way for the freedoms gays have today."

Sorry, you don't get to claim the credit, when you're been running from it all your life.

OTHERS, like Matlovich, fought the fight. You got publicly married.

#96 | Posted by Danforth at 2025-06-06 03:22 PM | Reply

Dan,

"You've been running from it all your life."

Really? I've been open about it on this site for 20 years.

My message has always been to learn to accept yourself even without validation from the straight world (because it's going to be in short supply).

From a Christian standpoint, I don't see homosexuality in the Bible as worse than any other sexual sin. Without salvation, the outcome is the same for everyone.

And let's be real. A lot of straight Christians who attack gays were already full of hate before they ever picked up a Bible. Now they just use scripture to justify it. Those people didn't learn to hate gays from their church.

So tell me, what exactly have you been doing on here that qualifies as trying to encourage conflicted gays?

I deal in reality...not fantasies.

#97 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-06 04:05 PM | Reply

Danni,

A lot has changed the last couple of decades.

Most straight people are stepping back from their intolerance and seeing gays as having rights.

But....now....I'm been seeing gays themselves shooting themselves in the foot because they can't be satisified with anything.

If it's not straight people being more tolerant, now they are demanding straights practically start marching in gay parades and waving flags to prove their acceptance.

Like I said, I think now where things are evolving gays are beginning to be their own worse enemy.

Now they are attacking Christianity and in particular Freedom of Religion.

Things have evolved but radicals and atheists are now on a campaign to discredit religion as their next trick.

Danni,

A lot has changed over the last couple of decades.

Most straight people have stepped back from their old intolerance and now recognize that gays have rights, just like anyone else.

But now, I'm seeing gays shoot themselves in the foot because, for some, nothing is ever enough.

It's not enough that straight people are more tolerant. Now they're expected to march in pride parades and wave flags to prove it.

Like I said before, we're reaching a point where gays are becoming their own worst enemy.

And now? The target is Christianity and especially freedom of religion.

Yes, things have evolved. But radicals and atheists have moved on to their next trick, discrediting faith altogether.

#98 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-06 04:16 PM | Reply

Danni,

oops...two versions...

#99 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-06 04:17 PM | Reply

"The target is Christianity and especially freedom of religion."

Are the people targeting Christianity in the room with us right now?

#100 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-06 04:48 PM | Reply

The thing that has most discredited religious faith in this country is so many of it's so-called Christians turning a blind eye to the most vile person to ever occupy the White House... and even support his outrageous lies, crimes, and lack of respect for the Constitution; for decency in general.

Many liberals look like Saints compared the criminals and traitors and Haters of the Other in the Trump Cult... because they have at least an interest in facts and the truth, and concerns about people other than themselves.

#101 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-06 04:49 PM | Reply

Some people talk out their --- with no clue what gays had to do just to survive back then.
#82 | Posted by BillJohnson

So what do you think it's like being a trans person in the military right now?

#102 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-06 04:49 PM | Reply

Corky,

We should've voted for Cackles?

Seriously?

The one whose only real qualification is doing exactly what she's told...no questions asked?

Who can't hold an interview because she needs to be scripted and rehearsed?

#103 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2025-06-06 04:56 PM | Reply

I'm done with this thread.
#87 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON AT 2025-06-06 01:16 PM

#104 | Posted by ClownShack at 2025-06-06 04:57 PM | Reply

"Gays have the unfortunate situation of being aligned with godless baby-killers"

You Lie.

70% of Women Who Get Abortions Identify as Christians, Survey Finds
www.christianpost.com

#105 | Posted by snoofy at 2025-06-06 04:57 PM | Reply

You should not have voted for known liar, criminal, rapist, and traitor, no.

That's a pretty easy call for anyone.

#106 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-06 04:58 PM | Reply

- Who can't hold an interview because she needs to be scripted and rehearsed?

Who spent 11 hours in front of a Republican Congressional investigation and never batted an eye.

To respond to your nonresponsive obfuscation.

#107 | Posted by Corky at 2025-06-06 05:01 PM | Reply

"Harvey Milk Navy Ship To Be Renamed"Vets Call It 'Insult to LGBTQ Troops'"

But I would say it was all troops, not just LGBTQ troops when he assumes that the name of the vessel determines whether the men aboard will fight to tdefend our country; he assumes that our sailors, our soldiers, our Marines, our airmen, etc. are as bigoted and hateful as Trump is but they aren't!

www.newsweek.com

#108 | Posted by danni at 2025-06-06 05:13 PM | Reply

"babykillers"

A fetus has no soul. Stop fcnking over the living for your depraved lunacy

#109 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-06-06 05:20 PM | Reply

Milk's victim was sixteen and named Jack G_____

And I'm assuming he didn't rape jack outright.

#110 | Posted by Tor at 2025-06-06 05:46 PM | Reply

So this person believes one story about an alleged rape by Harvey Milk, but they turn an eye to the infinity number of alleged rapes committed by Krasnov?

#111 | Posted by hamburglar at 2025-06-06 05:51 PM | Reply

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