For 4 years of the Biden administration our country was effectively, without borders.
#3 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Relevance?

"A country without borders isn't a country."

For four years anyone who wanted to simply walked into our country without consequence ... .
#8 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

What were the consequences?

Now that Trump is outdoing Biden on evictions, you're mad about it.
#27 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Evictions, lol.
Nice Freudian slip.

"Nobody gave me anything other than a chance"

This "chance" you were given, what was its cash value, and who gave it to you?

It sounds like daddy hired you. Is that what happened?

Republicans couldn't begin to tell you what it looks like when a nation loses their democracy.

Republicans don't think Germany lost their democracy in the 1930s.

Remember when The Washington Post had the line "Democracy dies in darkness" but then abruptly stopped using it when Trump got re-elected?

It's been on the masthead of The Washington Post since 2017. But "Democracy Dies In Darkness" is not just a slogan, it now appears to be the endgame.

"Want illegals deported in accordance with the law?"
No, you just want illegals deported.
The 6-3 Republican Supreme Court went 9-0 against you on that one.

"Want to stop government fraud waste and abuse of taxpayer money?"
Trump's spending outweighs his cuts in spending.

"Judges just openly flout the law, ignore the constitution, ignore the facts and ignore the evidence"
That's ICE, and Trump's own DOJ. The DOJ made up facts, also known as lying, o justify sending troops to Oregon, and you don't think there's anything wrong with that. Just like you don't think there's anything wrong with J.D. Vance lying that the immigrants are eating people's pets.

"Do we have representative democracy where the people get to enact the things they want done?"
Most everything that DOGE cut was exactly those things. Programs that had already been approved by Congress and signed by the Executive, in an act of representative democracy.

There needs to be a study done on MAGA as to why they believe billionaires give a shht about them.
#54 | Posted by ClownShack

Conservatives hate the poor, so they think billionaires must therefore be good.
The only billionaires Conservatives hate are billionaires who try to help the poor.

"For four years anyone who wanted to simply walked into our country without consequence."

Still waiting for any explanation of how this was actually a net loss for the country...

Well, we arent.
#61 | Posted by boaz

You keep saying what we aren't.
But if you can't say what we are, then you're just a petulant child saying "No!" for the sake of it.
So, tell us. What type of government do we have?

Follow up question, if we aren't a democracy, why do we vote on things? Or are all the elections sham elections like in Iraq.

You could educate yourself, Boaz.

Because you sound dumber than dirt, like a brainwashed North Korean, denying our nation's history.

Despite our thoughts of them as stalwart champions of democracy, the Founding Fathers were an elite class"they feared mob rule and debated vigorously about how the new government should be structured. Most of them were utterly opposed to a direct democracy, in which the electorate determines policy themselves instead of having representatives (presumably wiser and better informed than they) do it for them. Our Founding Fathers, decidedly did not trust the masses to make the decisions that would steer the ship of state.

Wonder if I left that bold tag open...

Stop trying to reason with the MAGAs, Snoofy. They're fascist --------, unworthy of respect.
#67 | Posted by cbob

Indeed, they cannot be reasoned with. They are as sure they're right, as the people who flew planes into the WTC.
So I mostly do it in hopes other people won't fall for the fascist propaganda.

As promised, there isn't a Republican here who can say what it looks like when a nation loses its democracy.

They can't identify any of the warning signs.

They will tell us It Can't Happen Here.

Even as they are the ones making it happen here.

"How many lefties actually try to engage in discussion on this site?"

We engaged you in so many discussion you had to change your username and pretend you're not the same guy as before.

Name any lefty who created new accounts after their previous account was banned for not being able to engage in discussion, but rather sabotage them.

"When it comes to Trump any kind of nuance is deemed Trump ass-sniffing."

You haven't made any nuanced comments. You said Trump has good and bad sides to him. That's not nuanced. That's not even really a comment, because you could say that about Mother Teresa or Martin Luther King too.

"The degree of absolutism coming from the left is cult behavior."

If this were true, you'd have examples.

But it's a lie, and you don't have examples.

This is how most every "discussion" with you has gone for ten years.

Now you'll remember you have some chores to do.

Good bye.

"Did you support 100% of Biden's agenda?"

The autopen had an agenda?
You're a clown.

"It happens when people cloister together and live in an ideological and informational bubble."

Trump officials are afraid to live in public, hiding out on military bases, because they know they will be mocked and shamed when they show their faces in public.

That's the bubble.

"I don't think you personally engage in cult behavior"

So, no names, no details, no evidence to support your claim.
But you're 100% sure it's true.

It's so true and so obvious, you don't need evidence!
Because you are brainwashed.

"The degree of absolutism coming from the left is cult behavior."

I have a question about the absolutism coming from the left.
Counting or not counting gang violence?

"Nuance" is when you leave and come back pretending to be somebody else.

Our Woke Cult teaches us lying about who you are is disingenuous at best.

But for Republicans, lying about who you are is right as rain.

You live in an ideological and informational bubble. You are beyond being divorced from reality. Sit this one out, Pee Wee. The adults are talking. Don't force me to give you a slap.
#93 | Posted by BellRinger

^
This is some really lame trolling.

But I can imagine you saying to your children, Don't force me to give you a slap.

#99 The fact that I don't live in a bubble is proven by the fact that I come to this site, read the articles lefties post and put up with your collective BS.
#101 | Posted by BellRinger

You started off good but you ended demonstrating how you live in a bubble, through calling our repeated attempts at discussion wit you "leftist BS."

Half these people you call leftists aren't leftists at all, they're simply left of you. Like JPW, not a leftist, but he gets under your skin for whatever reason.

Now I firmly support gay marriage.
#106 | Posted by BellRinger

Everyone here has the opinion that you'll un-support is as soon as the Supreme Court says so.
You spent a decade saying gay marriage was horribly adjudicated.
You will be happy when the bad adjudication is corrected.

Go on, deny it if it's not true. Let's have a conversation about how much you really support gay marriage.

"Regardless, you are telling me how I will respond to a hypothetical."

That's a direct result of you not having conversations.
You could dispel that notion by having the conversation right now.

There is no debate to be had. There is no nuance.
#105 | Posted by cbob

That's his whole shtick.
If he can't waffle and equivocate, he has nothing to say.

He strikes me as someone who had to learn to lie to survive as a child. and has been unable to come out from that shadow ever since.
Easy pickings for any gang or cult.

Danforth is a lefty. He is absolutely not a Republican.
#119 | Posted by BellRinger

Danforth is approximately a Republican of fifty years ago.
Back when Republicans were okay with abortion and had just created the Environmental Protection Agency to clean up some of the messes left behind by Capitalism.
Those Republicans are leftists to you now.
Reagan is a leftist to you now, with his final speech about welcoming immigrants into this nation with open arms.

I think abortion needs to be legal during the first trimester.
#128 | Posted by BellRinger

Excellent example of you not realizing how far right you are. You're to the right of Republicans back when abortion became legalized nationally.

Did you agree with sending abortion back to the States; was that well adjudicated? That's also to the right of where Republicans once stood.

"I think abortion needs to be legal during the first trimester."

Really, it's what it doesn't say.

Should women be able to get abortion with no strings attached, or do they need a husband's or father's or parent's consent and/or notification.

Do they have a waiting period? Do they have to watch a video explaining that there is a baby growing inside them? Should they be required to hear the fetal heartbeat before getting an abortion?

What about medical exceptions, does it have to be the life of the mother, or is mere "health" enough, or no medical exceptions?

What if the father is revealed to be from a long line of child molesters in the fifth month, and the mother no longer wishes to continue that bloodline, is it too late?

What if the fetus develops hydrocephaly and the only type of late term abortion that can be done, for any reason, is partial birth abortion?

"Should a woman have to have a wand inserted into her vagina to justify getting an abortion?"

Well she's already had something up there, so what's the big deal?
Signed,
MAGA

"Abortion up to the point of birth has a low level of support."

Why is "level of support" part of your understanding of what a person's rights are?

Rights are a popularity contest to you? That's just fascism hiding behind a winning election in the 1933 Reichstag.

Severely restricted after 1st trimester has broad support.
#141 | Posted by BellRinger

^
More proof you live in a bubble.

Roe v Wade was 22 weeks. 3rd trimester is 29 weeks through birth.
#138 | Posted by BellRinger

That is not what Roe did. Roe permits elective abortion until the third trimester. You are inventing facts to pretend the world is farther to the right than reality. Your bubble probably lied to you about Roe, as you don't seem clever enough to come up with that on your own. But feel free to take credit if your Alternate Facts are truly homegrown.

Which states have that as a requirement?
#147 | Posted by BellRinger

The ones your bubble won't tell you about.
Try answering your question by yourself.
Try educating yourself.

Try understanding he isn't bringing it up because it's just something in his imagination, like you do.

I vehemently oppose bans.
#167 | Posted by BellRinger

You're still ducking the issue.
Was Roe properly adjudicated?
Was Dobbs, that overturned Roe, properly adjudicated?
Yes or no.

Ultrasounds are performed ON the abdomen.
#159 | Posted by BellRinger

You refuse to educate yourself.
You live in a bubble.

He can't articulate his position on abortion with any nuance whatsoever.

It's because that language is not permitted into his right wing bubble.

That's because another life is adversely affected by what she does with her body.
#205 | Posted by BellRinger

But that's a two way street. Her life is likewise adversely affected, especially if she has an unwanted life in her body.

I'm also fine with ------ and rape victims having access to abortions so long as they file a police report.
#199 | Posted by lfthndthrds

You think they're gonna file a police report when it was their own family that raped them?
Are you really this stupid?

This is a states issue. States have the right to regulate who gets killed and who doesn't.
#204 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Fetuses aren't people, so that's completely irrelevant to this discussion.
Also, why would you say the Federal Government doesn't have the right to regulate who gets killed?
We're killing "drug dealers" in the Caribbean, how is that possible without the power you say resides only with the States?

Christ, you really are this stupid aren't you.

At a certain developmental stage, yes. If that fetus could live outside the womb, would you still make the silly argument that "it's just a clump of cells"
#215 | Posted by lfthndthrds

That's effectively what Roe did.
Roe created the trimester framework with fetal viability occurring sometime during the second trimester.

It's cute how you think you thought it all up by yourself, though.
It's pathetic how the thing you say you wanted, you've been voting against your whole life.

Hey moron, last time I checked, rape was a felony and it lands you in prison. Are you really that stupid that you'll die on that hill?
#223 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Oh, so you are this stupid.
What percentage of rapes are prosecuted?
What percentage of rape prosecutions result in conviction?

What percentage of rape victims by family members police reports against the family member that raped them?

"I don't support the abortion policies of any of those states."

You supported the ruling that gave the states the rights to impose those policies, JeffJ.

That's like saying you dropped a brick off the overpass but didn't intend for hit a car.

Both of you -------- know a woman who has been raped.
Have any of them told you about it?

You know what the first thing daughters with fathers like you say when they do report a rape?
"Don't tell my father."

"If a fetus is removed from the womb early because of a condition, and it can live on it's own"

When a fetus is removed from the womb, we call that "birth" and that is when personhood starts.
And you claim to have raised three children. How in the hell do you not know the difference between a fetus and a person?

"That's not how it works."

It's not?
Define "person" under the law.
Please proceed, Governor.

"Or does it all boil down to what side of that abdominal wall it's on, and if it has an umbilical cord attached or not?"

Does it?
What's your answer.
Can either of you half-wits articulate the legal difference between a fetus and a person?

"Gotcha, it all boils down to what side of that abdominal wall this fetus is on."

Did you have an legal definition which is substantially different from this, that you wanted to share with the class?

" if on the inside it's open season for abortion, on the outside it's birth and a person"

That isn't really the case under Roe, but I wouldn't expect you to know that.
As was mentioned earlier, Roe takes fetal viability into consideration and finds viability is present in the third trimester.
Republicans thought that was unfair to fetuses, so they undid it, and now it's a mess where women are dying from miscarriages that otherwise would have lived, and you don't give two ----- about it just like you don't give two ----- about all the fetuses that get aborted.

If you cared about fetuses, you wouldn't be cheering SNAP cuts.

Do you think we can't see right through you?