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#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2025-11-21 12:23 PM
That looks like the "peace" plan was written by Pres Putin, and echoed by Pres Trump.
It looks more like a surrender plan to me.
It goes further than that.
The "28 points" are meant to convey that the "plan" is very detailed - but actually very short on very important details re "security guarantees" and other legalese as to who, how and when..., while very specific on one-sided benefits for Russia - the hallmark of Russia's and Trump's business agreements that end up in courts.
Most, like "1. Ukraine sovereignty will be confirmed" and "2. A comprehensive non-aggression agreement will be concluded between Russia, Ukraine and Europe. All ambiguities of the last 30 years will be considered settled" and "3. It is expected that Russia will not invade neighboring countries and NATO will not expand further" are solidly one-sided but otherwise meaningless, as there were no "ambiguities" since 1994 Budapest treaty, when it was more than "expected" that Russia wouldn't invade Ukraine and Ukraine had very specific "reliable security guarantees" (point 5).
10. The U.S. guarantee:
-- The U.S. will receive compensation for the guarantee;
-- If Ukraine invades Russia, it will lose the guarantee;
-- If Ukraine launches a missile at Moscow or St. Petersburg ... the security guarantee will be deemed invalid.
The important outlines in parts of the plan that are clearly seen but have been missed by most prove that the "Trump plan" has been originated by Putin, given to Kyril Dmitriev to translate for Trump's "real estate 'Kissinger'" Witkoff to pass to Trump, to simultaneously claim credit and whitewash Putin's fingerprints.
13. Russia will be reintegrated into the global economy:
-- The lifting of sanctions will be discussed and agreed upon in stages and on a case-by-case basis.
-- The United States will enter into a long-term economic cooperation agreement for mutual development in the areas of energy, natural resources, infrastructure, artificial intelligence, data centers, rare earth metal extraction projects in the Arctic, and other mutually beneficial corporate opportunities.
-- Russia will be invited to rejoin the G8.
14. The remainder of the frozen Russian funds will be invested in a separate US-Russian investment vehicle that will implement joint projects in specific areas. This fund will be aimed at strengthening relations and increasing common interests to create a strong incentive not to return to conflict.
IOW, long-term goals of Putin - full rehab for him and Russia. The world according to Trump's demented fantasy (fostered and fomented by Putin) : "US + Russia vs China, China, China."
Sounds just like Ribbentrop-Molotov pact in 1939, only now the rest of the world is invited to put stamp of approval on this... and we know how that one developed.
www.hungarianconservative.com - 'Strategically, China does not want Russia to fall' " An Interview with George Yeo - 10-31-2025
|------- 'China does not want Russia to fall. If Russia were defeated, then China would face full pressure' -------|
Trump in 2016-2020: "Not Russia, Russia, Russia! China, China, China!" ... "I am not a puppet. You are a puppet!"
Any doubt re Trump being Putin's stooge, whatever s**tshow re Putin (and any other "America First" plays) he puts on ? **
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@#21 ... AFatPoofter can go fuck off ...
My guess would be, that after the outing of the foreign ~let's call them influencers~ outed by Mr Musk's X platform, we may see a resurgence of older aliases here that suddenly come alive.